The second time zone with day/night indication is way cool! And it's lumed, nice!! Skeletonizing the hands to the date is visible is a nice attention-to-detail design.
As a mostly “Date Only” guy, this one really speaks to me. I’m still fairly new to watches so I had no idea such a movement existed. Thanks for the great review. That lume is insane!
The uneven date numbers was something I noticed even before any reviews hit the tube. I have no worries about the warranty regardless of price, but I respect and understand that mileage may vary. My Mirage 8-day @ $4,900 was money well spent. What I do know is that if any issues come up Elshan stands behind his products with exemplary customer service. Unfortunately, that's more than I can say for some higher end established brands with 2+ years on their warranties.
2a.m in the morning. Waking up to go to work and drive a train. Haveing first cup of coffee and watching Ur review ofna nice looking unusuall watch makes that hard life easier😊
You said it. "A bit of a tricky one". I think for a 2 time zone watch, I'm looking for simplicity on the dial. And although I respect Zelos for the work they've put into this model it just wouldn't be a top pick for me. I hope they keep up the good work though.
Absolutely love my great white v2. I had an issue with a spring bar in the bracelet a couple of months ago so I emailed asking if I could buy a few more. Had three new ones sent my way free of charge. That’s the type of service that brings repeat customers for sure.
I ADORE my Zelos! Mako lll GMT w the blue, meteorite dial running the 9075. I like it better as my V1. I saw V2 was a little thinner and unlike V1, V2 has a minute track in the rehaute instead of the small 24 hour dial which allows a genuine 3 time tracking ability which I appreciate so much more than a minute track. This watch is luscious. Thanks for another fine review Jody
they can disagree all they want Zelos is number 1 when you add the price in the mix and the resale value, also is more exclusive than Helm or other brands that use waiting lists as they only release the models once and in small numbers and moastly fans that check the page often get to buy the desirable ones.
One of my 2 watches is a Zelos and I really enjoy it. But I gotta say I 100% agree with you regarding warranties, 1 yr just gives off the impression that it won't last long, imo it should be standard for watches to have a 2-3 yr warranty given how solid movements are now. And while I know its a "micro brand", they still pull hundreds of thousands per normal drop based off stock numbers so I feel like this should be feasible.
Dial is a bit busy for my tastes. Nice review as always. I'm looking forward to the 12th for your 2nd Erebus! Did I see an Aquatera vibe maybe?? Cheers
I own a Zelos Thresher MOP and its at another level, a joy to the eyes and the mind. Having said that, personally I think that the best microbrand there is as of now is Farer followed closely by Wise and Baltic ( second and third place I should say) I would put Zelos in a 4th place. I don't put CW ( which I am a BIG fan of) here because I don't consider them to be microbrand, but more of a small brand , like spinnaker, but this is just me, based on sales volume and marketing budget. Another great video Jody and thanks for your brilliant input and analysis when you make a review. cheers.
Was never a fan of Zelos… until this 1. That’s such an innovative design and the 2nd zone and date complications are very cool. Please report back if Zelos claim the misaligned date numbers was yours only, a problem they acknowledge and will fix or… tough beans. That’s the 1 thing keeping my credit card safely tucked away. Great job as always.
I think Christopher Ward is the #1 microbrand. So much so that they are now, arguably, no longer a microbrand. That's how far ahead of the others CW is. Zelos is #2.
@@JustOneMoreWatchyes, legacy micro. They certainly started as a micro and have now grown beyond that. That's how far ahead of everyone else they are.
@JustOneMoreWatch If a brand has all of their sales happen online, and they are not available at retailers, I consider them a microbrand. Up until CW becomes available in stores, they remain a micro (the biggest micro) in my eyes.
I really dig their design styles and I so wanted to get their Nova Aventurine but it was impossible to get... So I got me a San Martin SN0129 Aventurine instead, and it's as awesome, if not even more stunning than the white desert dial version which I had from before.
This watch seemed MUCH more legible/functional during the lume test when the crystal/dial and perlage/decorated movement are minimized and you can clearly see the functional element. IMHO the functional elements have enough whimsy and interest to carry the design. A tophat domed crystal and dial both sapphire sounds like a reflection/distortion nightmare, hopefully there is plenty of AR coatings to mitigate that as well as Jody's amazing camera work! Another great review!
I would have loved some delicious high-polished finishing on this. We've seen some excellent polished Ti finishing from some of the Japanese brands at really competitive prices, and I think it would have tipped this one over the top. Genuinely like the design and complications (can grand dates become more of a thing at the low end, please? Ta 🙏🏻🙏🏻) but the dull finish and vertical brushing of the case sides just doesn't say '$1850' to me.
I have a Zelos Abyss3 in bronze. I love it. It also has a Selita movement although it is a 200-1. it is waterproof to 3000m. It cost less than £400 new. Whilst I accept this is totally different in complications I do like it. I would not pay anywhere the rrp though. I think it is worth half that at most.
I hope to see another watch from Chameri, absolutely loving mine with the birch dial. As for Microbrands, Vero and Bertucci makes some really sweet field watches.
Some mixed opinions on Zelos group about this one, but for me personally it is another great examples of Zelos innovative designs. Beautiful timepiece! But... Is it me, or is the right date wheel's not aligned to the left wheel???
A bit rough on the finishing. The screws on the face show screwdriver marks. Along with the misalignment of the date wheels and the rough perlage I don’t think it’s worth the price for this watch with a 1 year warranty.
it seems like they went a great distance to develop this, but not for everyone's taste for sure. Also, bit too high priced with many minor issues. thanks Jody for the interesting watch review.
Liking everything overall. However would prefer it with a solid dial. Feel like the transparent dial takes away for it. Hope they release another version in the future with a solid dial and I'd definitely buy it
@@JustOneMoreWatch Very much agree Jody! Can see his argument and to be fair if you are a member of the FB group he always seems to look after folk with issues.
@@jontptnah people just like different things. I have a couple of Zelos but honestly didn’t think I would get any more because they mostly offer yet another dive watch or field watch. This though, I’m very interested in.
Zealos is a great brand, and their finishing is great for the usual models for around $600, but for this price, it's a bit underwhelming. Great watch but for the price I'd question where some of the value went.
At a premium price I'd expect the numerals of the date to line up well with one another. I have an inexpensive Sugess Moonphase that manages that for a small fraction of the price. Sorry, but the hardware has to deliver at that price.
Would have been good to include an option that doesnt have the skeletionized dial....like what they did for the Skyraider....the clear saphire titanium variants looks too similar to each other.
My first fear when i seen the grand date was alignment issues. As someone whos returned more than one watch due to misaligned date wheels, even when they are tiny windows down at the six, i know i couldnt accept it as the centre piece of the dial
absolute banger..zelos continue to go from strength to strength...date alignment like that wouldnt be tolerated in the swiss watch market though..touch more q.c and then and only then will that price seem justified
It's a Zelos, though, so live and let live, we all make mistakes, it's hand crafted, I'm sure they would fix it if you wanted to, you can't see it in normal use anyway, etc.
I see the tip of the second’s hand moving, but the reading-the-time-is-an-optional-extra thing (it’s clearly designed to be read at night only 😂) is just confirming it’s just not for me. No doubt it’s sold out already! 😅
I love Zelos and own several, including a Starfighter. Your observation about the misaligned date wheels is making me worry. I've watched a few reviews for this model, and you're the first one to complain about this issue. Hopefully, it's just your unit and not an issue with the whole line.
Jody you seem to have either a smudge or something on one of your lenses. I keep seeing some smearing on the middle right corner around 8:34 its on your right thumbnail. its all over this episode and i havent seen it before. Did you notice it in post?
Different, that's for sure. Just can't say that it's to my taste personally, or that I could justify the price. It won't be on my shopping list, though I can see why some might like it.
It is an interesting watch, I have never seen anything like it. The Lume is amazing. I am not going to comment on the price as I really have no idea if that is a good price or not. I do like titanium watches. I hate heavy watches. I wish more would use titanium bracelets and cases.
I love Zelos and own three of their divers. This model is an interesting one and quite unique, but I am not so much into skeletonized watches and especially into seeing date wheels in their entirety. I also immediately noticed that there are alignment issues with the date numbers, even on official photos. So (apart from the price) there are several reasons why I will be skipping this model.
Looks at watch... What time is it? No idea. Fail. Sometimes I'm sure brands start smelling themselves, and forget the basics. And don't get me started on the wonky date. Incredible looking dial, and CASEBACK though.
We may not realize it, but now is the second golden age for wristwatches. There are as many brands around as there was pre WW II in Europe. Some quite crap, some good (Zelos, Baltic, Ch Ward, Formex) coming at realistic prices, some very good (Tudor) and crazy expensive stuff only footballers and hegde fund managers can afford. To each their own. Brilliant
While it is a very cool watch, the legibility is rather poor and the other elements become pretty distracting. Would much prefer if they had a strong tint on the dial that lets you see what's happening only if you're looking closely
Fairly sure if Seiko came out with this people would scream and wail. But as it's a Zelos, iconic design, different, live and let live, glad it exists, etc.
that 12secs of darkness and silence is the scariest thing I've seen, it felt forever af.
Felt like the sopranos
:D hahaha
I thought an ad was loading, and/or something wrong with my connection.
@@fubaralakbar6800 ditto
Solar eclipse? We’ve all been had!😊
The second time zone with day/night indication is way cool! And it's lumed, nice!! Skeletonizing the hands to the date is visible is a nice attention-to-detail design.
Good to see a microbrand experimenting. Bit to expensive for me,but appreciate their efforts.
Get on there mailing list 90 percent of there drops are 3-700 bucks
As a mostly “Date Only” guy, this one really speaks to me. I’m still fairly new to watches so I had no idea such a movement existed. Thanks for the great review. That lume is insane!
The uneven date numbers was something I noticed even before any reviews hit the tube. I have no worries about the warranty regardless of price, but I respect and understand that mileage may vary. My Mirage 8-day @ $4,900 was money well spent. What I do know is that if any issues come up Elshan stands behind his products with exemplary customer service. Unfortunately, that's more than I can say for some higher end established brands with 2+ years on their warranties.
Agree 100%
2a.m in the morning. Waking up to go to work and drive a train. Haveing first cup of coffee and watching Ur review ofna nice looking unusuall watch makes that hard life easier😊
You said it. "A bit of a tricky one". I think for a 2 time zone watch, I'm looking for simplicity on the dial. And although I respect Zelos for the work they've put into this model it just wouldn't be a top pick for me. I hope they keep up the good work though.
6:44 is there a secret message that I can't see? :)
Thought my computer finally bit the biscuit at that time stamp
14 secs in the colour of his secret dark soul?
It's the lume test...? 😝
Absolutely love my great white v2. I had an issue with a spring bar in the bracelet a couple of months ago so I emailed asking if I could buy a few more. Had three new ones sent my way free of charge. That’s the type of service that brings repeat customers for sure.
I ADORE my Zelos! Mako lll GMT w the blue, meteorite dial running the 9075. I like it better as my V1. I saw V2 was a little thinner and unlike V1, V2 has a minute track in the rehaute instead of the small 24 hour dial which allows a genuine 3 time tracking ability which I appreciate so much more than a minute track. This watch is luscious. Thanks for another fine review Jody
I prefer no date on my watches but the double disc big date is a cool complication.
I think Zelos has even evolved from being being a Microbrand to a small brand, great work from their team.
Ming, Horage, Unimatic might disagree but you're point is well taken.
who?
@@MrTw2009 moser, helm, smiths.....
they can disagree all they want Zelos is number 1 when you add the price in the mix and the resale value, also is more exclusive than Helm or other brands that use waiting lists as they only release the models once and in small numbers and moastly fans that check the page often get to buy the desirable ones.
@@MrTw2009 my thought exactly
One of my 2 watches is a Zelos and I really enjoy it. But I gotta say I 100% agree with you regarding warranties, 1 yr just gives off the impression that it won't last long, imo it should be standard for watches to have a 2-3 yr warranty given how solid movements are now. And while I know its a "micro brand", they still pull hundreds of thousands per normal drop based off stock numbers so I feel like this should be feasible.
I've got a titanium Zelos, they make a great watch! This one isn't quite in my wheelhouse, but it is pretty cool.
i love it, very tasteful way to skeletonize a watch. As someone new to the hobby, i will be sure to put Zelos on my watch list
Dial is a bit busy for my tastes. Nice review as always.
I'm looking forward to the 12th for your 2nd Erebus! Did I see an Aquatera vibe maybe??
Cheers
I own a Zelos Thresher MOP and its at another level, a joy to the eyes and the mind. Having said that, personally I think that the best microbrand there is as of now is Farer followed closely by Wise and Baltic ( second and third place I should say) I would put Zelos in a 4th place. I don't put CW ( which I am a BIG fan of) here because I don't consider them to be microbrand, but more of a small brand , like spinnaker, but this is just me, based on sales volume and marketing budget.
Another great video Jody and thanks for your brilliant input and analysis when you make a review. cheers.
Was never a fan of Zelos… until this 1. That’s such an innovative design and the 2nd zone and date complications are very cool.
Please report back if Zelos claim the misaligned date numbers was yours only, a problem they acknowledge and will fix or… tough beans. That’s the 1 thing keeping my credit card safely tucked away.
Great job as always.
The date misalignment would drive me crazy 🤪. But very ambitious watch. Love Zelos. Cheers.
I think Christopher Ward is the #1 microbrand. So much so that they are now, arguably, no longer a microbrand. That's how far ahead of the others CW is. Zelos is #2.
Not sure if CW still qualifies as a micro? People call them a 'legacy micro'. Otherwise, I agree with you!
@@JustOneMoreWatchyes, legacy micro. They certainly started as a micro and have now grown beyond that. That's how far ahead of everyone else they are.
@JustOneMoreWatch If a brand has all of their sales happen online, and they are not available at retailers, I consider them a microbrand. Up until CW becomes available in stores, they remain a micro (the biggest micro) in my eyes.
And with their 5 year warranty CW is rivaling big Swiss brands.
No have one not that good
I actually like it a lot. This video made me put on my SF40. I got mine from the initial batch, Black Sand dial, and I still love it. Thanks Jody!
I really dig their design styles and I so wanted to get their Nova Aventurine but it was impossible to get... So I got me a San Martin SN0129 Aventurine instead, and it's as awesome, if not even more stunning than the white desert dial version which I had from before.
This watch seemed MUCH more legible/functional during the lume test when the crystal/dial and perlage/decorated movement are minimized and you can clearly see the functional element. IMHO the functional elements have enough whimsy and interest to carry the design. A tophat domed crystal and dial both sapphire sounds like a reflection/distortion nightmare, hopefully there is plenty of AR coatings to mitigate that as well as Jody's amazing camera work! Another great review!
I like the complications. I would have preferred a cleaner plate under the dial, perhaps a bead blasted finish rather than perlage.
I would have loved some delicious high-polished finishing on this. We've seen some excellent polished Ti finishing from some of the Japanese brands at really competitive prices, and I think it would have tipped this one over the top.
Genuinely like the design and complications (can grand dates become more of a thing at the low end, please? Ta 🙏🏻🙏🏻) but the dull finish and vertical brushing of the case sides just doesn't say '$1850' to me.
Really dig that date complication! I wish more brands did that at the affordable end of the spectrum.
A run of 100 may be optimistic. Thanks for the video, Jody!
I'd be up for this if it had a proper dial and better date alignment. I'd wonder about servicing costs too.
Incredible watch! I often think, how can Elshan top this one. Every time he does it!
Baltic and vario would be my top picks as microbrands. All because most if not all of their designs appeal to me and properly sized
It's very interesting to see how the big date work, however I would like them to make a solid dial to make it cleaner.
I have a Zelos Abyss3 in bronze. I love it. It also has a Selita movement although it is a 200-1. it is waterproof to 3000m. It cost less than £400 new. Whilst I accept this is totally different in complications I do like it. I would not pay anywhere the rrp though. I think it is worth half that at most.
I hope to see another watch from Chameri, absolutely loving mine with the birch dial. As for Microbrands, Vero and Bertucci makes some really sweet field watches.
Bit busy but technologically brilliant
Definitely not seen this combination of complications before!
@@JustOneMoreWatch at first I thought it would be akin to one of those Xeric's the hours spinning on one of three dials. All the best
@@greamespens1460I keep getting ads for Xeric and that spinning hour complication is very cool
Jody.....i think ur forgetting our dear lord and saviour......Pagani Design😂😂😂😂. I gotta say zelos sea wolf with the white and green bezel is GORGEOUS
Some mixed opinions on Zelos group about this one, but for me personally it is another great examples of Zelos innovative designs. Beautiful timepiece! But... Is it me, or is the right date wheel's not aligned to the left wheel???
A bit rough on the finishing. The screws on the face show screwdriver marks. Along with the misalignment of the date wheels and the rough perlage I don’t think it’s worth the price for this watch with a 1 year warranty.
it seems like they went a great distance to develop this, but not for everyone's taste for sure. Also, bit too high priced with many minor issues. thanks Jody for the interesting watch review.
It’s kinda sci-fi which I like a lot, but the lug design and bracelet integration is… quite the choice.
I love Zelos. Though I did recently trade my Swordfish TI Forged Carbon and some other for a Tudor FXD Pealgos Red Bull Alinghi. No regrets.
Liking everything overall. However would prefer it with a solid dial. Feel like the transparent dial takes away for it. Hope they release another version in the future with a solid dial and I'd definitely buy it
That perlage just looks cheap. It would be nice if they had a real dial option or even having a color tint to the daily they are using.
It’s beautiful however it lacks refinement and I suspect heavy depreciation
it is a fantastic looking watch and an interesting design. Quite pricey for a Micro but sure worth it. Well done.
Honestly very unique and pretty sick looking
Have you ever had a conversation with Elshan about the warranty and why only 1 year?
Several! He says that no one but me complains! Says it helps keep his prices down, but that doesn't apply here. Should definitely have 2+!
@@JustOneMoreWatch Very much agree Jody! Can see his argument and to be fair if you are a member of the FB group he always seems to look after folk with issues.
Great example of "just because you can doesn't mean you should... "
But it'll probably sell out so....... 🤷
@@JustOneMoreWatch I agree, sigh... Probably more to do the Zelos mythos than the watch itself.
@@jontptnah people just like different things. I have a couple of Zelos but honestly didn’t think I would get any more because they mostly offer yet another dive watch or field watch. This though, I’m very interested in.
I believe this is a beautiful watch and one of my top favourites. Will be pick in one up
That date wheel would drive me nuts. I noticed it well before you even mentioned it. For $1800 I’d want better
Zealos is a great brand, and their finishing is great for the usual models for around $600, but for this price, it's a bit underwhelming. Great watch but for the price I'd question where some of the value went.
At a premium price I'd expect the numerals of the date to line up well with one another. I have an inexpensive Sugess Moonphase that manages that for a small fraction of the price. Sorry, but the hardware has to deliver at that price.
That zelos looks amazing with that dual time 🔥🔥🔥 now that's a beautiful watch 😊
How do you tell the time on it? I get dizzy, looking at the face.
The king of microbrand is HELM! 🙂
My Vote for best looking watch is Seiko Presage, Tequila Sunset pink dial , mesh band , tempted for days when the speedy feels too boring
Just One More Watch, This is amazing! I can't stop smiling!
Boldr watches are my favorite microbrand.
Just One Cool Watch!
Would have been good to include an option that doesnt have the skeletionized dial....like what they did for the Skyraider....the clear saphire titanium variants looks too similar to each other.
Lume also around the date window would look amazing.
My first fear when i seen the grand date was alignment issues. As someone whos returned more than one watch due to misaligned date wheels, even when they are tiny windows down at the six, i know i couldnt accept it as the centre piece of the dial
6:45 do not adjust your tv :). I don't think they are a micro brand now , small brand. I wish things could be in stock.
Well done Jordi 🎉, now let's get back wearing our brilliant G-shock 😁
What’s a shedjewel?? Just asking 💁🏼♂️
The misaligned date wheel is a bit of an eyesore!
No doubt that Zelos is the #1 microbrand! They produce a lot of “the first” watches in the industry and inspired a lot of other brands too!
I want one of these…badly. Also can’t wait to see Erebus 2
Jody, what's with the blackout - a 2001-style intermission?? Your review videos are epic, but I'm not sure we're quite there yet. 😮
absolute banger..zelos continue to go from strength to strength...date alignment like that wouldnt be tolerated in the swiss watch market though..touch more q.c and then and only then will that price seem justified
It's a Zelos, though, so live and let live, we all make mistakes, it's hand crafted, I'm sure they would fix it if you wanted to, you can't see it in normal use anyway, etc.
Been waiting for this one!
I see the tip of the second’s hand moving, but the reading-the-time-is-an-optional-extra thing (it’s clearly designed to be read at night only 😂) is just confirming it’s just not for me. No doubt it’s sold out already! 😅
I love Zelos and own several, including a Starfighter. Your observation about the misaligned date wheels is making me worry. I've watched a few reviews for this model, and you're the first one to complain about this issue. Hopefully, it's just your unit and not an issue with the whole line.
Jody you seem to have either a smudge or something on one of your lenses. I keep seeing some smearing on the middle right corner around 8:34 its on your right thumbnail. its all over this episode and i havent seen it before. Did you notice it in post?
Different, that's for sure. Just can't say that it's to my taste personally, or that I could justify the price. It won't be on my shopping list, though I can see why some might like it.
Jodi sets the standard for principled sponsored content.
It is an interesting watch, I have never seen anything like it. The Lume is amazing. I am not going to comment on the price as I really have no idea if that is a good price or not. I do like titanium watches. I hate heavy watches. I wish more would use titanium bracelets and cases.
I love Zelos and own three of their divers. This model is an interesting one and quite unique, but I am not so much into skeletonized watches and especially into seeing date wheels in their entirety. I also immediately noticed that there are alignment issues with the date numbers, even on official photos. So (apart from the price) there are several reasons why I will be skipping this model.
Is the top hat crystal used to create space underneath?
my bulova surfboard arrived today. i like it govna
Fairly typical pricey Zelos, but really, the misaligned date wheels would be a complete showstopper for me....
Lovely watch from s great brand but just too much money for a microbrand offering.. getting close to used blackbay 58 money or similar..
This will be the Zelos to break the relase value rule. Can't see it being big on residuals
Interesting prediction! Come back in a year and we'll see if it is correct!
Looks at watch... What time is it? No idea.
Fail. Sometimes I'm sure brands start smelling themselves, and forget the basics. And don't get me started on the wonky date.
Incredible looking dial, and CASEBACK though.
No one tell Jody about the Watch Crunch Microbrand tournament, it would break his heart.
I own several zelos but this isn't headed my way. So busy and hard to read. Great review though.
We may not realize it, but now is the second golden age for wristwatches. There are as many brands around as there was pre WW II in Europe. Some quite crap, some good (Zelos, Baltic, Ch Ward, Formex) coming at realistic prices, some very good (Tudor) and crazy expensive stuff only footballers and hegde fund managers can afford. To each their own. Brilliant
Great review!
14 minute video watched in 4 minutes. Tell us your secrets.
@@qic I love all his videos!
It reminds me of Edvard Munch's 'The Scream' 😂
Hey Jody there's Black screen and dead air from 6:45 to 6:58😅
Oh thank God. I thought I was having a stroke. 😅
@@adk7962 I thought the video had just stopped out of nowhere 😂
Beautiful piece but I'm not sure if I feel comfortable spending that kind of money on a Zelos.
Yes, way way too little warranty for the price of the watch.At the very least two but if if they wanted to be generous three years. Cheers.😊
The way the two date wheels don't properly aligns annoys me
If this had a solid, non sapphire dial, with an extra year on the warranty, Id have instantly ordered one
What time is it. ?
It's a mystery. 🤷♂
Busy dial is an extreme understatement. I wouldn't wear this watch if it was free.
While it is a very cool watch, the legibility is rather poor and the other elements become pretty distracting. Would much prefer if they had a strong tint on the dial that lets you see what's happening only if you're looking closely
Its just the name that puts me off....christopher ward... giving me a small chain of optitians in berkshire
Very cool functions. But this is a bit of a overcooked mess in my eyes.
Fairly sure if Seiko came out with this people would scream and wail. But as it's a Zelos, iconic design, different, live and let live, glad it exists, etc.