Olympics - 1972 Munich & 1976 Montreal - Track - Mens 5K & 10K - FIN Lasse Virein imasportsphile

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  • @cryo9216
    @cryo9216 Рік тому +5

    During my entire childhood I had but one hero figure in my life - Lasse Virein. I still have vivid memories as an impressionable teenager and aspiring distance runner, watching the TV in awe as he sprinted to gold!

  • @stevewashington4372
    @stevewashington4372 Рік тому +5

    I've always enjoyed watching Viren run. His form seems to suggest absolutely no wasted motion. Incredible athlete and competitor.

  • @Paulashfordpoems
    @Paulashfordpoems 3 роки тому +13

    Viren was my first running hero, because the 72 and 76 Olympics were the first I saw when I was in High School. Viren won not through blood doping but because he was coached by Lydiard, the same as Quax, Dixon and Snell. A big aerobic base, then threshold and VO2Max, the Lydiard method is the basis for all modern training success. Carlos Lopes is also a great hero of mine.

    • @joaosito68
      @joaosito68 2 роки тому +3

      Not throught blood doping, my ass!

    • @joaosito68
      @joaosito68 2 роки тому

      @lola What have I to do with Spain or Brasil?

    • @joaosito68
      @joaosito68 2 роки тому +2

      @lola Portugal. Carlos Lopes country also. Whom was robbered by Larsen in Monreal.

    • @joaosito68
      @joaosito68 2 роки тому

      @lola ????? Which goal?

    • @joaosito68
      @joaosito68 2 роки тому

      @lola Ronaldo never runned the 10k on olympics. Lopes yes, and the Monreal gold medal belongs to him.
      Fact.

  • @TheDunklebob
    @TheDunklebob Рік тому +3

    Lasse Viren and Frank Shorter were here in Vermont a week ago. It was a sweet 4 days with them

  • @englishman1960
    @englishman1960 4 роки тому +8

    Brilliant video telling the story of Lasse. He was my hero.

    • @cesarmonteiro4424
      @cesarmonteiro4424 3 роки тому +1

      i hope you know all the achievments of Lopes, do you????

  • @rampart6557
    @rampart6557 5 років тому +25

    Viren had five gears, he had five different ways to out-duel his opponents over the last mile of any race. If he had to, he would win with a long, sustained drive. If he had to win over the last 800, he could do that, too. If he had to win from 400 out, he'd take the lead on the last 400 and hold that lead all the way in. If he had to win from 250 out, he did that, too. And if had to flat-out sprint like hell to win in the last 100 meters, he also won that way. Amazing, profoundly great champion. Very deceptive speed, because he looked so smooth but make no mistake, he had the horses when it counted.

    • @222mozart
      @222mozart 5 років тому +7

      he was the first master of blood doping, a real master.

    • @randyevermore9323
      @randyevermore9323 5 років тому +6

      @@222mozart Completely unfounded but mindlessly predictable.

    • @222mozart
      @222mozart 5 років тому +2

      @@randyevermore9323 yes, of course! hahaha... ask him!

    • @ossitikkanen1335
      @ossitikkanen1335 4 роки тому +2

      @@222mozart You´re telling completely wrong information. It was just a rumour made by his enemies :-(

    • @222mozart
      @222mozart 4 роки тому

      @@ossitikkanen1335 I know, this is the assertion of the enemies of sport ((

  • @chrismcallister3355
    @chrismcallister3355 Рік тому +4

    My good friend Tony Simmons 4th Montreal 10,000 metres

    • @Simon72Victoria
      @Simon72Victoria Рік тому +1

      Saw him Tuesday, timing us for our 6 x 1200 reps in Luton. Top bloke!

    • @chrismcallister3355
      @chrismcallister3355 Рік тому

      @@Simon72Victoria at Stockwood or the brache?

  • @michaeladrian2210
    @michaeladrian2210 3 роки тому +4

    Viren....mentally very very tough. Great runner.

  • @brianoidperson
    @brianoidperson 2 місяці тому

    Shoulder to shoulder running was Lasse's strength.

  • @tonisiikala9736
    @tonisiikala9736 4 роки тому +7

    As a 1st generation Finnish-American, I love and hate to watch this. I love it cause Viren wins but no matter how many times I watch this (or the movie of Prefontaine), I would love to see Prefontaine to get a medal. RIP.

    • @oldtimer7635
      @oldtimer7635 4 роки тому

      I feel for you, I do not know, did Prefontaine get any Olympic medals? Sorry my ignorant about this? Btw, I am a Finn. : )

    • @tonisiikala9736
      @tonisiikala9736 4 роки тому

      Nope.

    • @johnwilson5743
      @johnwilson5743 4 роки тому +7

      Hi Toni. I'm a fan of Pre cause I like gutsy runners. Sadly, at the 72 Games 5,000m, Pre was young and inexperienced internationally and his tactics were poorly planned. I've watched the entire race, focusing on Pre and he ran almost a lane wide for about three quarters of the race! Then, when he did lead, he let others pass him but then would waste huge amounts of energy going wide almost immediately to gain the lead back. He did this twice just in the last 800 m. By International standards he wasn't a particularly fast finisher and his strength/stamina gave out right at the finish where he was run down and finished 4th. Some say he was "robbed" of a medal but it was really the result of his poor race strategy.
      Many Americans then say that Pre would win the 76 Games 5,00m but he had been passed in the world ranking by about a dozen others by 1975 (the year he sadly died) A large number of much faster 1500m runners had moved up to 5,000m, drowning Pre. The heats were very fast in 76 so it's even doubtful he would have made the final, even without the Africans competing. I was there in Montreal. A whole heap of 3.35 1500m runners made the final, making Viren's win even better.

    • @odrauderojas2576
      @odrauderojas2576 4 роки тому +1

      You are not alone in that feeling!

    • @michaeladrian2210
      @michaeladrian2210 3 роки тому +1

      Pre made aggressive move on back stretch. Hard to say but tucking in an coming off curve lights out may have got him a medal.

  • @markshaw5018
    @markshaw5018 3 роки тому +7

    Sad to see pre didn't medal.. A gutsy run nevertheless...

    • @JohnSmith-vy4lh
      @JohnSmith-vy4lh 3 роки тому

      Viren would of been disqualified today for blood doping.

    • @thomas1630
      @thomas1630 2 роки тому +1

      @@JohnSmith-vy4lh You think recent medalists have not got away with illegal doping.

    • @JohnSmith-vy4lh
      @JohnSmith-vy4lh 2 роки тому

      @@thomas1630 Well the eye brows do rise from time to time, i suspect there are some cheating going on. Viren wasn't cheating , There wasn't a law against getting blood transfusions at the time. But would he have won the golds without them, who knows.

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama 4 місяці тому

      @@JohnSmith-vy4lh There is no evidence whatsoever of Viren's blood doping or the others' not blood doping. I am so tired of this nonsense.

  • @craignl
    @craignl 5 років тому +2

    This looks like it is from the CTV series 'The Olympians' - I remember that series well

  • @magdycomics
    @magdycomics 4 місяці тому

    What an amazing video!. What is it? Is there a sequel or prequels to the series. And who was the commentator at the end?, don’t tell me he was the epic Jesse Owens!

  • @rpsnider85
    @rpsnider85 Рік тому +1

    Crazy thing is that he really didn't have any kick to speak of. He ran a lot like Prefontaine did, they had to make their moves to start speeding up the pace at the mile mark or right around or they'd get out kicked at the last 200. So Viren would speed it up because his gas tank and engine could handle the pressure and rough riding that it takes to do that, and the faster guys wouldn't have shit left to kick to their actual ability and Viren would just shoot off as they slowed down. Which is why it looked like he could deliver a devastating final kick, he wasn't like Vaitaanen who really did grip and rip at the end when he was healthy. An incredible runner overall and his strategies ended up working for him 2 Olympics in a row in both the 5k and 10k. Because he never went into a race with just one plan.

    • @bfc3057
      @bfc3057 4 місяці тому

      Vainio is a proven steroid user at Los Angeles 1984. He was almost certainly doing it from the late 1970s.
      Vainio is one of the many destroyers of athletics and he is not fit to be named.

    • @nickbamber268
      @nickbamber268 4 місяці тому

      @@bfc3057 Who?

  • @jasonaltham7013
    @jasonaltham7013 3 роки тому +3

    It is Carlos Lopes, not Lopez.

  • @timberry8427
    @timberry8427 Рік тому +1

    This is Absolutely Amazing Stuff to watch...They Tested way back then during the *Flying Finn's ERA* .Watching these Stories on Old School Racing shows Visionary Successful Thinking by the Mother before Grief eventually came at an end of a Great Father's Love of Son back in a rarity to Get compliments Timelines in History!...*Studying Great Running Forms & Great Coaching & The need for *Massage & Stretching to become Maximum Success* Rest..Food,And Guts for Glory Story Telling in these Video Of The Races along with Amazing Commentating..*Distance Running is a Lost Discipline in The World,but has reached Great interest in modern Recent Years Timelines..& *Thank God for the Human Heart, Great Mind ,And Body that Follows the Drive to Have some kind of Success whether it's a PR Goal Personally or Team Work Style,or Individual Championship 🏆 Podium Goals not excluding World 🌎 Record Locally or World Wide Styles!..*Racing is So Hard to do & so worth the moments to reflect on as Life continues a *Stallion (🐎) Body Goal & Final Result in the Achieving Goals!

  • @dashriprock3165
    @dashriprock3165 2 роки тому

    AS OF TODAY 3/24/22 ALL OLYMPIC RUNNING VIDEOS APPEAR TO BE UNAVAILABLE. WHAT LAME ARSE EXCUSE ARE THEY USING THIS TIME?

  • @David-be7jn
    @David-be7jn Рік тому

    Can someone tell me wot was the head to head between viren and foster

  • @ericco8765
    @ericco8765 4 роки тому +1

    Does anyone know who is the narrator of this video?

    • @marcusconway4
      @marcusconway4 4 роки тому

      Is it Bud Greenspan?

    • @joelswissdorf6159
      @joelswissdorf6159 4 роки тому

      @@marcusconway4 It's a man named David Perry. Mr. Greespan wrote and produced it.

    • @stephenspada3551
      @stephenspada3551 2 роки тому

      It is David Perry. His real name is David Greenspan but he wanted to gain credibility on his own merit. One of my top 5 announcers/narrators of all time. Top 2 actually.

    • @ericco8765
      @ericco8765 2 роки тому

      @@stephenspada3551 Thanks!

    • @nickbamber268
      @nickbamber268 4 місяці тому

      Orson Welles?

  • @johnrogan9420
    @johnrogan9420 2 роки тому +1

    Poor Steve...positively 4th street

  • @PaulVinonaama
    @PaulVinonaama 8 років тому +1

    This starts with Munich.

  • @michaeladrian2210
    @michaeladrian2210 3 роки тому +1

    Pre really picked up pace with last 4 laps....Viren ran almost 4min final mile with Pre not far off.
    By the way...most of runners were " inexperienced" so that is racing and why I liked doing it.
    Viren was very smooth n deceptive and stayed just ahead of everyone....Quax and Dixon.
    European runners understood Pre and I think his US system..earlier in season kept him out of big Europeans races. He told me just before being killed that he was not getting coached so I dont think he get medal in 1976.

  • @johnrogan9420
    @johnrogan9420 2 роки тому

    Hildebrand..Bronze with a final dive!

  • @jacintocarlosmarquespeixot350
    @jacintocarlosmarquespeixot350 5 років тому +6

    Blood doping was a good partner at these times

    • @markcynic808
      @markcynic808 4 роки тому +4

      Just as evidence free cheap talking is nowadays.

  • @user-ro7ee7
    @user-ro7ee7 5 років тому +2

    O. Run you. Great.

  • @ottarvendel
    @ottarvendel 2 роки тому +1

    For the ignorants: Blood doping was banned as late as 1985. Now you know.

  • @swami1
    @swami1 5 років тому +5

    The wonders of blood doping.

    • @ossitikkanen1335
      @ossitikkanen1335 4 роки тому +3

      You´re telling just fake news :-(

    • @71ajax74
      @71ajax74 4 роки тому +3

      Now, whoever beats an American takes doping... You accuse the whole world of doping. Shut up!

    • @swami1
      @swami1 4 роки тому +1

      @@71ajax74 The truth hurts.

    • @71ajax74
      @71ajax74 4 роки тому +6

      @@swami1 No. This is the fiction of those who do not know how to lose with dignity. They always spread fairy tales. All the best!

  • @EllenLikesToAnimatexX123
    @EllenLikesToAnimatexX123 4 роки тому +2

    Its amazing what blood doping can achieve.

    • @markcynic808
      @markcynic808 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah? He must have blood doped for the 5000 and 10000m heats they ran at the Olympics in those days, too. Then again 4 days after the 1972 5000m final when he broke the world record for that event at Helsinki.
      How easy it is for nonentities like yourself to talk tripe, and always without any evidence or reasonable cause to do so. Crawl back under your stone, you little toad.

    • @michaeladrian2210
      @michaeladrian2210 3 роки тому +2

      We dont know that or the affect
      ..the man still had to run and he competed with skill

  • @SerGio-xs9ss
    @SerGio-xs9ss 4 місяці тому

    Cheater. He had blood transfusion before the races. When you are the best one you don't need to cheat.

    • @SerGio-xs9ss
      @SerGio-xs9ss 4 місяці тому

      And even cheating, on 1976 he stayed behind Carlos Lopes all the race till last tour, taking advantage, shame on him !!

  • @michaell8722
    @michaell8722 Рік тому +1

    Lasse Viren “king of blood doping” (it was legal back then, but everyone considered it cheating)

  • @Steven-f7v
    @Steven-f7v Рік тому

    I thought Viren credited his Montreal success to reindeer urine.

  • @jaimecorvus6373
    @jaimecorvus6373 2 роки тому

    Viren, a fake. blood transfusion; how could he challenge otherwise Carlos Lopes, Marathon Man of the eighties ?

    • @KaiHellmann
      @KaiHellmann 5 місяців тому +1

      You think at only one guy make blood transfusion… 😂 y are like child…

    • @jaivl1106
      @jaivl1106 5 місяців тому +1

      World record in the marathon after devastating injuries, near his 40s and retired immediately afterwards, surely squeaky clean himself

    • @jaimecorvus6373
      @jaimecorvus6373 5 місяців тому +1

      @@jaivl1106 Lopes was there since 1976, silver medal, & in the 80s, World cross country champs in 70s, in 1985 Lisboa, Olympic champ 1984, etc : the GOAT !

  • @кириллюрьевич-л2л

    Великий стайер и человек