Personally I think NIto is not made up of multiple skeletons. He's one giant skeleton wearing a suit of human skeletons. Nito is literally a giant. He's found in the tomb of the giants after all.
This is easily the best theory i've heard regarding Nito, even though it hinges a lot upon whether the aura around Nito is actually related to humanity. I particularly liked the part where you related Leeroy's phantom stages to his defense of nito and his desire for the Rite - that's brilliant. There are many more links to miracles and the Way of White than i thought! Also, you clearly put a lot of effort into narration, presentation and the writing, so kudos. Make more!
i love the idea that nito is warm in his snuggie and bunny slippers in his coffin and you bust into his home swinging your blade like a madman making you the bad guy XD
I see it as an allegory to show you are no different than any other of those undead running around the realm trying to steal others souls to further their own aspirations. It's kinda poetic of real world self-centered ambition. If we care about our own success at all costs those who get railroaded in the process usually don't deserve it. Unless you being the chosen undead somehow makes you a different kind of undead than any of those guys in the Undead Burg? I don't know for sure. Maybe because you still haven't gone totally hollow? It seems the onion head guy, Seigmeyer or whatever is a parallel to your character. Running around trying to achieve victory at all costs and depending on other's to help him through it (cause you summon phantoms too) but in the end his daughter ends up fighting and killing him because he's forgotten his family and gone hollow in his single-minded pursuit.
As for Nito attacking... I have a different theory on the discrepancy between him as Covenant Lord, and him as boss fight. Personally, I think Nito knows who you are and what you are the whole time. I think he's pragmatic, and efficient, and has nothing but respect for the Chosen Undead. What I believe is that, when you come calling for his Lord Soul, Nito simply understands that it's time to have it out, and that the era is rolling over, with or without him. Simply put, the biggest piece of evidence of this is that there are no penalties within the Gravelord Servant Covenant for killing Nito, the Gravelord himself, aside from not being able to advance further. I think this shows Nito's understanding of your task, and as lord of death, perhaps this understanding stems from his acknowledgement of the inevitable.
I always thought Nito was possibly the most memorable of the 4 Lords. They theory is also quite sound since Nito is clearly the ONLY Lord who isn't insane/hollowed, and without a doubt is wise enough to know of the Chosen Undead's quest.
I really think that Nito is the coolest character design I've seen in a video game since Phantom in the original DMC, but I think Manus/Furtive Pygmy is a (slightly)more interesting story. They're both badasses though. #AllHailHidetakaMiyazaki
I MEAN HE'S MADE OF FUCKING SKELETONS! God, why couldn't he have been an even bigger figure? I would have been totally cool with him having the enitre story built around him.
I find it funny how in games, death is stereotypically evil, but in dark souls, Nito, lord of death did NOTHING wrong. Gwyn sacrificed people who blindly followed him to extend his rule, eventually killing himself. Izalith attempted to create her own first flame, thus usurping Gwyn and in the process, created demons and corrupted her family. But Nito was just kind of chilling out in the catacombs. Even though he did provide necromancies, which in itself isn't bad, it's just teaching!
Nick B. In the after life: Nito: "I was just in my snuggies logging on to souls book when this shriveled up naked human came rushing at me with a horribly ripped out dragon tooth!"
@@janterri3539 No the miasma was especially made for the dragons. Nito was one of Gwyn's top "generals" during the dragon war and made sure that the dragons perished. He was part of Gwyn's plan to annihilate the dragon race and to rise the gods as rulers of the land. I think Nito was as "bad" as Witch of Izalith, then comes Seath and finally the worst, Gwyn.
from a larger post I made above: large digression: I just had a thought about the natures of frampt and kaathe. The two bells that one rings to summon frampt are located near enemies who relate to the fire element. fire is obviously an element that is opposed to the undead, and certainly to magic type damage as well. this would also indicate that fire is opposed to dark, which is echoed in the game's premise. Gwyn and the Witch are represented by frampt, whereas nito and whoever is the darkest soul are represented by kaathe. fire weapons are always good versus the undead, and deep in nito's lair we find a blacksmith who specializes in this. so the two serpents represent fire and cold. this analogy is evident in the first dlc from ds3, in which the frost wielding friede (someone else posted that friede means peace) prevents the end/rebirth of the order, which is precipitated by fire.
Gwyn: Nito I need you, remember when I gave you the rite of kindiling I need to use it to put more humanity in the first flame. Where is it Nito: oh yeah that thing pinwheel has it Gwyn: WELL GO AND ASK FOR IT BACK! Nito: can't he's dead now chosen undead has the rite. Gwyn:................FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
One thing to notice is Nito's design. He is a pile of skeletons, a mass of dead bodies. And in the intro, when he's shown getting his soul, he rises from the ground, not like a person, bu like a mass. Possible theory here is, that with fire came desparity - before there was no life and no death. But then fire happened and creatures started to experiense life - and invetably death. A bunch of them died between the appearance of fire and finding of the lord souls. Death was a new concept for the world, and this new abscense of life became a thing of itself - Nito. The consept of death gained actual representation on his form, when something as powerful as a lord soul could support it. So I think before the lord soul was found Nito didn't exist, it was a bunch of dead people.
I feel as though Nito didn't like Gwyn and his quest for immortality, in the same way Havel despises Seath's magic. Gwyn wished to prolong the Age of Fire by sacrificing humanity and encouraging the Undead's process of Hollowing, for the hollow are unable to die. Because of this, Nito harvests humanity in order to hinder more kindling, and you can literally see the humanity exhume from his aura. Paladin Leeroy plays a huge part in Nito's story. He befriended Nito, despite his affiliation with the Way of the White, which was the church founded by Gwyn in order to fuel the fire; basically, humans were fooled by the gods, in order to fuel the age of gods and supress the absolute potential that resides in humans: Dark. Leeroy was one of many, such as Rhea, who was fooled, and upon discovering this, he turned his back on the church and began to aid Nito, by guarding his tomb after having kept a close eye on Pinwheel for so long. There isn't a bonfire in Pinwheel's tomb, so he didn't use the art of kindling to fuel the fire, but for necromancy. Time is distorted in Lordran, and we get to meet Leeroy in all his forms: when he was a foolish Paladin of the church (white) in search of the lost art of kindling, and as an enlightened servant of Gravelord Nito (red) after having found out the true nature of kindling. If defeated, you can find Leeroy's equipment in Nito's tomb, which means he didn't hollow, but was rather blessed with death through Nito's mercy. Rather than providing an undying service TO the gods, Leeroy, in his final moments, was a human serviced BY a god. Without humans, gods would not be worshipped, but without gods, humans may flourish through their own strength.
Nito and Gwyn is disparity at its finest. Both in what they represent, and their ideologies. Nito wished for the age of Dark to come through Manus, but his idea of "man" was corrupt and abominable. Nito is unable to kill Gwyn, for the Lord Soul resides in him as well, and would have to relinquish his soul to the Lord Vessel in order to confront Gwyn (as well as retrieve the other Lord Soul fragment from Izalith). Of course, if Nito relinquished his soul to the Lord Vessel, he would die before he had the chance to fight Gwyn. And so Nito lies in idle wait for a suitable successor to take his Lord Soul, break down the age of fire and bring forth the age of man. Hence, his lack of concern when joining his covenant. Notice that the purpose of the Abyssal Covenant is similar to that of the Gravelord Covenant in goals, hinted at by the color of the player when invading worlds. The only difference is that the Abyssal Covenant was founded by a serpent, instead of the Gravelord himself... and the serpents should never be trusted, for their entire existence is questionable in nature.
+Joshua Bernardo You so far have interpreted the lore to be more interesting than most here on youtube. While Vaati mostly describes and retells what's already been said, you at least seem to have made connections where others have not. You should make a video on your view.
I personally believe that the main goal of maintaining the age of gods is to prevent themselves from being potentially overpowered by humans when the fire dies. The gods are beings of the fire, and if they survive the fading, they likely would be powerless. Then The Pygmy (holder of the dark soul and as such the god of dark) and his humans (who are made human from dark) would rule over them and the world. The gods, after Gwyn kindled the fire and canceled the age of man, then insured that man forgot the power of darkness and swayed them into their worship. It also makes decent sense that the three lords would do all these things just to "get back at" the "pygmy," considering man was created by him. I dont know if I worded my theory clear enough to not sound like an idiot, but it seems plausible in raw, thought form.
+Joshua Bernardo Would you say the Abyss is wild and 'corrupted' Dark, then? In much the same way that Chaos is Life turned cancerous? I see a lot of lore meisters conflate the Abyss, the Deep and the Dark as some anomalous concept , despite all being quite distinct. For one, the Abyss only came to be after Manus himself did. Meaning that while Dark has the potential to twist humans as Life (Chaos) does, it's not its pure essence.
+CrazyGrapefruit It seems that when a human is alive, their true soul is their humanity, and after losing it from dying you decompose (unless the curse revives you, in which case you still decompose and become hollow, which could explain the madness of hollows). The key nature of humanity, to me at least, seems to be how your emotions can affect it. Pursuers and Affinity describe you taking your own darkness, and charging it with either love or envy, which causes it to do what those in love or envious do: blindly follow the object of attraction. When your emotions run too wild, such as the onset of Manus's madness, humanity grows and expands infinitely by the human's emotion powering it (If you lost humanity without dying, I feel like you would instantly die and hollow out, as the instant start of decomposition after loosing your life essence would be quite lethal indeed). As Manus continued to rage, the Abyss grew from his blind fury, and lashed out at everything living, as Manus does. When he died, the main fuel source of the Abyss would be gone and it could not spread, so why would the Abyss appear outside Oolacile? Personally I believe that the Abyss is not one location, but simply the result of humanity running wild and expanding over an area. For example, Wolnir's soul states that he killed hundreds of people "to outlive them all," and so this strong and evil desire could have disrupted his humanity and consumed Carthus in dark. It's possible that when the Undead Legion saw, they killed him to stop it from spreading further (hence why his skull is a chalice that leads into Wolnir's personal "hell" in the center of his own Abyss) and buried it underneath Farron, setting up a keep to prevent the humanity from seeping up from in Carthus. When they became Lords of Cinder, the Abyss was not being fought back, and Farron and its legion was overrun by the dark. This could be why the watchers kill each other, and why some have the signature red eyes of Abyss corruption, as they would need to fight each other before attending to the darkened Farron outside. The infinite nature of the Abyss is likely because of that as it expands, it becomes denser and moving through the dark takes time, though I cannot claim to know the physics of the dark soul. As for the Deep I believe, from the human dregs description, that darkness has a tendency to separate from denser components and sink. Dark sorceries have a physical weight, as mentioned in ds1, so it's possible that this fluid material could eventually separate from itself. After thousands of years and linked fires, separate Abysses (or other compacted humanities) became filled with sediments that became stagnant, making them more potent and dangerous. So the Deep could be the literal filth of the dark soul and humanity, and forms after any one Abyss has remained undisturbed for some time, as stagnant water quickly becomes filthy and is likely to carry with it an infectious quality of some sort. Perhaps this caused Aldrich to become a cannibal, as his visions of a world where a giant Abyss covers the earth like and ocean (with the Deep being the dreg filled place that any remaining life settles into) were likely to have drawn him to investigate and eventually worship it, and could be the reason why he became sludge after bloating (consuming all that darkness, and thereby increasing the amount of potential sediment, could have collapsed him into pure sediment and truly make him the Deep's revered patron saint). Does anything I just typed even make reasonable sense to anyone, or am I lost in my own ass here?
What I think: Nito is Death, the Witch of Izalith had the Life Soul. Gwyn has the Light Soul, and Manus/The Furtive Pygmy had the Dark Soul. Light and Dark fluctuate, but the closest Life and Death get are to be reincarnated through each other. I.E. Death dies, and is born again. Life dies. Same thing. Cyclical, just not on the scale of Light and Dark.
I always enjoy listening to Dark Souls lore and uncovering all of the hidden details that are in plain sight. Like many of us I'm sure, we're subscribers to VaatiVidya, and would love to see more of this from both of you.
Gwyn, the god of life and Nito, the god of the dead... I guess it's natural that the Undead go against both of their goals. They're neither living nor dead. It's highly appropriate that the Chosen Undead would be their opponent.
Wow, Nito's humanity aura, Nito's connection with the way of white, Paladin Leroy serving Nito (which would really explain his armour in Nito's arena much like Kirk near the fair lady), your speculation seems absolutely solid and quite possibly the best lore video on Nito I've seen. I can't really add anything to it as you and Vaatividya's video on Pinwheel has pretty much covered everything on Nito's domain. And yes I would love to see more love videos as you do them really well.
Fantastic video. I think you're right about a few things related to Nito. The humanity aura around him is something I never really took note of, and is very interesting. Nito is my favorite entity in Dark Souls and I think the fact that he is shrouded in mystery really allows me to run wild with my imagination about him, and that's why I like him so much. Also his style, imagery, and covenant are just the best to me as well. Great video 5/5
Thank you so much! I'm really glad to hear that - it's amazing to me just how much content can still be found from this game. ENB and Vaati have done such great jobs, that I don't really intend to (at least right now) tread over the same ground - unless I have a reason. (I intend to do a Pinwheel one, and for a reason).
Wait a moment; if Nito supported, and may still support, Gywn and his age of Fire, and Frampt the King Seeker supports the Age of Fire itself, why would he send you off to kill Gwyn's allies at all?
I believe, like you said in the comment, that King Seeker Frampt only supports the age of fire itself. Seeing as how Nito has no second thought about killing the undead that enters his lair, and spreading death everywhere else, Frampt may see this as an obstacle to his cause of finding the chosen undead to fuel the bonfires. Nito may support Gwyn, but as mentioned, only for as long as it is beneficial to them both. Perhaps Frampt is being blinded just like the player is, and doesn't see the fact that Nito aids Gwyn, and sees only the fact that everytime Frampt may have found an undead strong enough to fuel the bonfire, he/she is shown no mercy when entering the tomb. (just speculation)
I think it is because Gywn is desperate to keep the age of fire going and thus wants to put as much power back into the flame as he possibly can. If you talk to Framp he will tell you that the beings that hold the lord souls have either chosen the path of wickedness (I.e Seath, Four Kings, Bed of Chaos) or have outlived their usefulness (Nito). While Nito is still Gywn's ally, he is more useful to the goal of continuing the age of fire as fuel for the flame, rather than as the lord of death.
don't forget. Frampt actually supports the coming of the age of dark. when you kill Gwyn. and exit. not lighting the last bonfire, evan if you don't give the lord vessal to Frampt first. he still shows up, with Kaathe. who supports the Age of dark straight up. and praises you, or something like that. mabey. the reason he tells you to light the last bonfire at all . is because he's against kaathe. in the way he wants to bring the Age of dark in his own way. mabey? :3 sorry if i misspelled anything. :/
xXHoGo-MoGoXx That's probably because the eternal snakes do not really care about anything but themselves. Frampt is the Kingseeker - and probably also the kingmaker, as long as they can control the flow of the diffrent ages they'll survive all of them.
xXHoGo-MoGoXx I wouldn't exactly say that just bowing down to the Lord of the Dark alone showed he was in support of the Age of Dark. Think of this; a powerful tyrant rises to the throne, and no matter how much the people dislike him, they still bow down to the king in fear. Serpents are often depicted as sly beings, and perhaps it is this behavior, that allowed them to survive through the ages and consequently earning the Primordial Serpent titles; they simply bow down to whoever holds power. Frampt is probably aware that you need to offer the Lordvessel the Lord Souls in order to open the gate to the Kiln, and that alone takes priority over any allies that Gwyn once had when he was still sane, as you cannot relink the flame if you can't get to it in the first place.
the theme for nitos boss fight is outstanding! it gives you the feeling of overwhelming dread, the feeling that there is no possibility of victory. and when you win it's feels so amazing!
This was great! It also plays very nicely into the way Dark Souls was based on ancient western lore, where the god of death was less often strictly "the bad guy", and more often just another god who just has a duty: to judge the dead and monitor their passage to the underworld. I'd love to see more of these from you, the only criticism I had was that it was obvious you were reading from a script, which is a very minor thing!
This was great! It also plays very nicely into the way Dark Souls was based on ancient western lore, where the god of death was less often strictly "the bad guy" or a satanic figure, and more often just another god who just has a duty: to judge the dead and monitor their passage to the underworld. I'd love to see more of these from you, the only criticism I had was that it was obvious you were reading from a script, which is a very minor thing!
This was great! It also plays very nicely into the way Dark Souls was based on ancient western lore, where the god of death was less often strictly "the bad guy", or to put it simply, Satan, and more often just another god who just has a duty: to judge the dead and monitor their passage to the underworld. I'd love to see more of these from you, the only criticism I had was that it was obvious you were reading from a script, which is a very minor thing!
Youngster Joey mentioned that too, and I find it fascinating. I was thinking on it, and I think that it could be that Nito is a smaller being that uses the skeletons as his armor/coating. Look at how different his legs are too - they almost seem Dragon - or at least animal (like the skeleton dogs). The leg joint is backwards, like an animal would have.
Kindle the undead church. Kindle Anor Londo's inner wall. Kindle the catacombs. The tomb of the Giants. The Dukes Archives. Lost Izalith. Kindle Firelink Shrine. Strengthening the flames of fate. The bonds the undead share. Venturing onward, where others only dare. Beyond the ashes, in the heart of the flame. The place, where only embers remain. Sever the bond of cinder. And kindle the first flame. In order to remember. In order to try again.
Easily my favorite videos, the music, the deep stories. I was amazed most enemies in these games I enjoyed killing them after the ridiculous amount of death lol. But some ya almost regret. The butterfly, as a prime example. And the story is right there for you to see if ya look hard enough. Love your videos!
I prefer TerraMantis"s videos, but more because I like the way he makes them into narratives rather than straight documentaries. And I also prefer his take on Paladin Leeroy's purpose for invading you.
Jake O'Shea Actually I am subscribed to Dave, VaatyVidya, Silver Mont and TerraMantis. It is the lore in general that fascinates me. Never really got much anywhere in the first Souls game lol but this was also before my PS3 dumped out on me. But made it to the first bell. Lol 2 has been the easiest for me so far.
darkwolf1989 I don't really like Silver, that accent is harsh on my ears, especially since I have to listen to it for 10-15 minutes at a time. However, he does have some interesting insights.
ha, loved the ending with us simply barging into his home, even before watching this and learning about Nito thru the game itself, I always thought Nito was the actual god of death and Gwyn god of light/life
I know everyone has moved on to DK2, but I just wanted to grow this out there. DKS takes many of its inspirations from pagan beliefs. I believe the reason Nito doesn't attacks you when you enter through the coffin is because when you are brought in through the coffin, this is the Gravelord servant rite. But notice how the skeletons are kneeling before the pitfall in Nito's lair. Also notice the red carpet that lines the entrance ? This is a sacrificial pit. Most humans would die falling from that height, and by dying this way, they join Nito's army, but of course the player cant. I believe the pool where baby skeletons spawns also served as a sacred cenote like pool where parents would sacrifice their children as an offering to the death god. The catacombs and TOG make much more sense when you view them from a religious standpoint. The clues add up when you factor in members of the way of white was down there, as was the sacred rite and occult shields.
This story's history and lore was made richer through the fromsoft team and the fans. It is always great to hear and see different perspectives, please continue your work.
Great work! I've been waiting forever for a Nito lore video. I want to add that in the intro we see, that Nito is the first to grasp after the fire (he is also the only one of the four, whom we see physically reaching out for the flame). After that we see Nito, holding tight onto the flame, unlike the witch and pygme who seem to cradle the flame instead. In fact, Nito seem to look upon the fire with emotions like desire or obsession.
Wow, I never noticed that - very cool. (And my favorite Dark Souls trailer). I'll say this, though. He does still have the black/white around him. - Just with an extra red. - Regardless, I do still think the connections make sense. (Way of White, etc).
When Nito is called First of the Dead, we are shown in the cinematic several humanoids walking to their death. Therefore, the implication is that he is made up of a collection of the first beings that died. That’s why he appears to made up of multiple corpses and is called the first of the dead.
He's shrouded in a cloak of humanity because he wears a kind of coat of human corpses. The innate humanity those people had within them must have never been taken. For a while I had thought the skeletons lined up on the walls in Pinwheel's room were parts of Nito's "clothes" , where he had some of his power stored. Great video by the way.
Great video, really shines some light on Nito and his story. I feel that he is the most underrepresented lord in the game, there isn't that much direct information about him, but you did a great job of putting the pieces together.
everytime I think about nito this comes to my mind "My name is death, you'll come to know me well. I'll steal your soul, and leave a lifeless shell. You creep into my room, and my soul is what you crave. But tonight I'm taking you to an early slumber, an early grave." or something like that
@DaveControlLive this lore video was fantastic, you did a great job and brought stuff that no one has thought about i hope that the next vid has just as much thought and you just gave me an idea what if humanity is what has been preserving the minds of the npcs like rhea who are already turning undead but keep using humanity to maintain their sanity
You have some very interesting speculation going on there, i can't believe i haven't made the correlation between Nito and Gwyn myself, anyway as a dark souls fanatic(4000 plus hours) i really enjoyed the video, i am impressed you managed to bring a point of the lore that hasn't discussed to death on the community, yet, and presented it so well. I say that if you can keep your lore videos separated from the ones that came before and focus on exploring "new" aspects of the lore i will be happy.
Very good video, I was expecting such a video to be from a Nito fanatic of death and gothic stuff, which would have probably taught me nothing interesting xD But you developped great ways of thinking about Dark Souls' lore :) Great job !
We also know that as the flame fades the cures runs rampant. More undead would mean that there are less dead, so it would be in Nito's interest to continue the age of fire as it would increase his power.
Great video, it cleared up a bit of something I've been wondering, about why his blade spell is actually a "Miracle", a very "one of these things is not like the other" situation, but his connection to the Way of White explains that a bit. I'd like to hear more speculation on deeper origins, like how exactly did Nito rise to power? Who perhaps was he before being the First of the dead? Also to be exact, I think Gwyn is primarily the Lord of Light, and the Witch of Izalith is the Lord of Life.
I would say that Gwyn is the Lord of Light, as opposed to the Lord of Life. How ironic I think it is, that Gwyn of all people, is afraid of the Dark(Humans) I personally think that the Witch of Izalith holds the "Life Soul" Seeing as it was seemingly fire, that created life, and the Witch herself inadvertently created Demons when trying to recreate the First Flame. Great video dude, Nito is an interesting character. I'm looking forward to more :)
love the videos dave! Ive watched em all like 6 times, i learn new stuff each time and that makes playing the game and exploring that much better! Great job man!
Thank you so much! As a huge fan of your videos, I'm happy to hear you enjoyed mine! - And, also that you have an appreciation and understanding for the work that goes into it.
Excellent video! Interesting reveal there, the Age of Fire is fueled by Death in a way. Pretty symbolic; I think the Souls team did a really good job of capturing that "feel" of western mythology. Great work with the video! You had pretty appropriate screenplay and good audio cues. I really enjoyed the content and environment set. Keep at it, bro!
I like to think that Nito was brought unlife by the Fire. In the opening scene, he appears to just be laying there, but when the Fire came, he rose up quickly, as if brought toward it, and making the Lord Soul an inherent part of him.
As usual, great video. Thinking about it right now, what benefit would the chosen one gain by serving any of Gwyn or Nito? It makes you feel, the chosen one was used all along for the purpose of making the first flame last longer but it cannot last forever anyway. I really wish Miyazaki would put a new game where it shows the age of man; the age of Dark. I think it will be interesting.
I subscribed, and can't wait to see more! I'm a VaatiVidya fan, as well as ENB, but I'm very happy to see a new personality that wants to explore the topics that haven't been covered yet!
I'd love to get more of your lore videos! This one got me newly excited to play DS, as well as super excited about DS2 for the simple fact that we'll have a shit ton more to marvel over :) cheers!
Thanks! Yeah, I've been going back and forth. I view Gwyn as being similar to Zeus (with Nito being similar to Hades). So, in that regard he seems like a God of life (at least, human life, as the Way of the White and others worship him). - On the flip side, he's known for SunLIGHT, hence the heavy light connection. And The Witch of Izalith created the Bed of LIFE, and created the life of all demons, so she actually did create a form life itself.
So much of Dark Souls connects to Greek Mythology if you think of the first dragons as the Titans and Gwyn as Zeus. The simple act of taking power from the dragons and creating the age of fire sounds similar to Zeus freeing his brothers and sisters from the belly of Cronus. Dave, your theory reminds me of the relationship between Hades and Zeus and I couldn't agree more.
Personally I think NIto is not made up of multiple skeletons. He's one giant skeleton wearing a suit of human skeletons. Nito is literally a giant. He's found in the tomb of the giants after all.
Could be since in real life, people have discovered skeletons as tall as him.
CalianSonadora No they haven't
zkiller142 Yes, they have.
Proof?
zkiller142 Go search for it since unfortunately providing links on here annoys the living shit out of people.
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This is easily the best theory i've heard regarding Nito, even though it hinges a lot upon whether the aura around Nito is actually related to humanity.
I particularly liked the part where you related Leeroy's phantom stages to his defense of nito and his desire for the Rite - that's brilliant. There are many more links to miracles and the Way of White than i thought!
Also, you clearly put a lot of effort into narration, presentation and the writing, so kudos. Make more!
Vaati.
Vaati invaded my house as a red phantom named Santa and gave my mom his sack.
The most common theory that's thrown around involves them eating the corpses of humans and literally ingesting it that way.
i love the idea that nito is warm in his snuggie and bunny slippers in his coffin and you bust into his home swinging your blade like a madman making you the bad guy XD
I see it as an allegory to show you are no different than any other of those undead running around the realm trying to steal others souls to further their own aspirations. It's kinda poetic of real world self-centered ambition. If we care about our own success at all costs those who get railroaded in the process usually don't deserve it.
Unless you being the chosen undead somehow makes you a different kind of undead than any of those guys in the Undead Burg? I don't know for sure. Maybe because you still haven't gone totally hollow? It seems the onion head guy, Seigmeyer or whatever is a parallel to your character. Running around trying to achieve victory at all costs and depending on other's to help him through it (cause you summon phantoms too) but in the end his daughter ends up fighting and killing him because he's forgotten his family and gone hollow in his single-minded pursuit.
As for Nito attacking... I have a different theory on the discrepancy between him as Covenant Lord, and him as boss fight. Personally, I think Nito knows who you are and what you are the whole time. I think he's pragmatic, and efficient, and has nothing but respect for the Chosen Undead.
What I believe is that, when you come calling for his Lord Soul, Nito simply understands that it's time to have it out, and that the era is rolling over, with or without him. Simply put, the biggest piece of evidence of this is that there are no penalties within the Gravelord Servant Covenant for killing Nito, the Gravelord himself, aside from not being able to advance further. I think this shows Nito's understanding of your task, and as lord of death, perhaps this understanding stems from his acknowledgement of the inevitable.
You just made Nito sound even more awesome than he already is....
Yay, a supporter! ^_^
I always thought Nito was possibly the most memorable of the 4 Lords. They theory is also quite sound since Nito is clearly the ONLY Lord who isn't insane/hollowed, and without a doubt is wise enough to know of the Chosen Undead's quest.
I really think that Nito is the coolest character design I've seen in a video game since Phantom in the original DMC, but I think Manus/Furtive Pygmy is a (slightly)more interesting story. They're both badasses though.
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Jake O'Shea The first time I saw into I was in astonished by the detail of his character design
This video was pretty Nito
badum tss
Sour Oddity fuck I was gonna make the joke 😞
Shut the fuck up
Ravelord Nito Nito what's wrong, forgot to feed your nitoking.
Oh no you didn't.
Nito is beyond metal
I MEAN HE'S MADE OF FUCKING SKELETONS!
God, why couldn't he have been an even bigger figure? I would have been totally cool with him having the enitre story built around him.
wolfman1241 damn, it would be awesome if he made a city of bones or some shit
1:42 nito is like "im spoooooookyyyyy" lol
+MrSuvvri Lol." "Miaaaaaaaaaaaasma"
xD
He is spreading diseases from his airmpits
We're so sorry skeletons, you're so misunderstood.
Not my Name you did not got the reference
You aren't so spooky scary, skeletons.
I find it funny how in games, death is stereotypically evil, but in dark souls, Nito, lord of death did NOTHING wrong. Gwyn sacrificed people who blindly followed him to extend his rule, eventually killing himself. Izalith attempted to create her own first flame, thus usurping Gwyn and in the process, created demons and corrupted her family. But Nito was just kind of chilling out in the catacombs. Even though he did provide necromancies, which in itself isn't bad, it's just teaching!
Nick B. In the after life:
Nito: "I was just in my snuggies logging on to souls book when this shriveled up naked human came rushing at me with a horribly ripped out dragon tooth!"
I like video games where Death is seen as a good guy or at least neutral. A natural happening in life that is necessary for life to continue.
Nito unleashed miasma of death. Wtf are you talking, he is pure evil.
Rick Harrison He’s probably meant to be the force that kills regular humans to regulate population.
@@janterri3539 No the miasma was especially made for the dragons. Nito was one of Gwyn's top "generals" during the dragon war and made sure that the dragons perished. He was part of Gwyn's plan to annihilate the dragon race and to rise the gods as rulers of the land. I think Nito was as "bad" as Witch of Izalith, then comes Seath and finally the worst, Gwyn.
Wasn't it...
Witch of Izalith - Life
Nito - Death
Gwyn - Light
Humans - Dark
...?
*****
In addition to that I also got the vibe of:
Witch of Izalith - Chaos
Nito - Order
Gwyn - Spirit
Humans - Matter
But maybe that's just me.
Mistress Bedlam think of chaos as fire out of control, so abyss would be dark (humanity) out of control
+ARC0L Furtive Pygymy : Dark. Humans originated from Pygmy after all, and so did the abyss.
from a larger post I made above:
large digression:
I just had a thought about the natures of frampt and kaathe. The two
bells that one rings to summon frampt are located near enemies who
relate to the fire element. fire is obviously an element that is opposed
to the undead, and certainly to magic type damage as well. this would
also indicate that fire is opposed to dark, which is echoed in the
game's premise.
Gwyn and the Witch are represented by frampt, whereas nito and whoever
is the darkest soul are represented by kaathe. fire weapons are always
good versus the undead, and deep in nito's lair we find a blacksmith who
specializes in this.
so the two serpents represent fire and cold. this analogy is evident
in the first dlc from ds3, in which the frost wielding friede (someone
else posted that friede means peace) prevents the end/rebirth of the
order, which is precipitated by fire.
Manus-Dark
Nito:
my first thoughts : *wish he had a summon sign*
Nito: The worlds screwed and im not helping
Hardy Parrot In fact I'm probably a huge determent to everything
Gwyn: Nito I need you, remember when I gave you the rite of kindiling I need to use it to put more humanity in the first flame. Where is it
Nito: oh yeah that thing pinwheel has it
Gwyn: WELL GO AND ASK FOR IT BACK!
Nito: can't he's dead now chosen undead has the rite.
Gwyn:................FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Lemme nap in my race car coffin.
One thing to notice is Nito's design. He is a pile of skeletons, a mass of dead bodies. And in the intro, when he's shown getting his soul, he rises from the ground, not like a person, bu like a mass.
Possible theory here is, that with fire came desparity - before there was no life and no death. But then fire happened and creatures started to experiense life - and invetably death. A bunch of them died between the appearance of fire and finding of the lord souls. Death was a new concept for the world, and this new abscense of life became a thing of itself - Nito. The consept of death gained actual representation on his form, when something as powerful as a lord soul could support it.
So I think before the lord soul was found Nito didn't exist, it was a bunch of dead people.
I feel as though Nito didn't like Gwyn and his quest for immortality, in the same way Havel despises Seath's magic. Gwyn wished to prolong the Age of Fire by sacrificing humanity and encouraging the Undead's process of Hollowing, for the hollow are unable to die. Because of this, Nito harvests humanity in order to hinder more kindling, and you can literally see the humanity exhume from his aura. Paladin Leeroy plays a huge part in Nito's story. He befriended Nito, despite his affiliation with the Way of the White, which was the church founded by Gwyn in order to fuel the fire; basically, humans were fooled by the gods, in order to fuel the age of gods and supress the absolute potential that resides in humans: Dark. Leeroy was one of many, such as Rhea, who was fooled, and upon discovering this, he turned his back on the church and began to aid Nito, by guarding his tomb after having kept a close eye on Pinwheel for so long. There isn't a bonfire in Pinwheel's tomb, so he didn't use the art of kindling to fuel the fire, but for necromancy. Time is distorted in Lordran, and we get to meet Leeroy in all his forms: when he was a foolish Paladin of the church (white) in search of the lost art of kindling, and as an enlightened servant of Gravelord Nito (red) after having found out the true nature of kindling. If defeated, you can find Leeroy's equipment in Nito's tomb, which means he didn't hollow, but was rather blessed with death through Nito's mercy. Rather than providing an undying service TO the gods, Leeroy, in his final moments, was a human serviced BY a god. Without humans, gods would not be worshipped, but without gods, humans may flourish through their own strength.
Nito and Gwyn is disparity at its finest. Both in what they represent, and their ideologies. Nito wished for the age of Dark to come through Manus, but his idea of "man" was corrupt and abominable. Nito is unable to kill Gwyn, for the Lord Soul resides in him as well, and would have to relinquish his soul to the Lord Vessel in order to confront Gwyn (as well as retrieve the other Lord Soul fragment from Izalith). Of course, if Nito relinquished his soul to the Lord Vessel, he would die before he had the chance to fight Gwyn. And so Nito lies in idle wait for a suitable successor to take his Lord Soul, break down the age of fire and bring forth the age of man. Hence, his lack of concern when joining his covenant. Notice that the purpose of the Abyssal Covenant is similar to that of the Gravelord Covenant in goals, hinted at by the color of the player when invading worlds. The only difference is that the Abyssal Covenant was founded by a serpent, instead of the Gravelord himself... and the serpents should never be trusted, for their entire existence is questionable in nature.
+Joshua Bernardo You so far have interpreted the lore to be more interesting than most here on youtube. While Vaati mostly describes and retells what's already been said, you at least seem to have made connections where others have not.
You should make a video on your view.
I personally believe that the main goal of maintaining the age of gods is to prevent themselves from being potentially overpowered by humans when the fire dies. The gods are beings of the fire, and if they survive the fading, they likely would be powerless. Then The Pygmy (holder of the dark soul and as such the god of dark) and his humans (who are made human from dark) would rule over them and the world. The gods, after Gwyn kindled the fire and canceled the age of man, then insured that man forgot the power of darkness and swayed them into their worship.
It also makes decent sense that the three lords would do all these things just to "get back at" the "pygmy," considering man was created by him.
I dont know if I worded my theory clear enough to not sound like an idiot, but it seems plausible in raw, thought form.
+Joshua Bernardo Would you say the Abyss is wild and 'corrupted' Dark, then? In much the same way that Chaos is Life turned cancerous? I see a lot of lore meisters conflate the Abyss, the Deep and the Dark as some anomalous concept , despite all being quite distinct. For one, the Abyss only came to be after Manus himself did. Meaning that while Dark has the potential to twist humans as Life (Chaos) does, it's not its pure essence.
+CrazyGrapefruit
It seems that when a human is alive, their true soul is their humanity, and after losing it from dying you decompose (unless the curse revives you, in which case you still decompose and become hollow, which could explain the madness of hollows). The key nature of humanity, to me at least, seems to be how your emotions can affect it. Pursuers and Affinity describe you taking your own darkness, and charging it with either love or envy, which causes it to do what those in love or envious do: blindly follow the object of attraction. When your emotions run too wild, such as the onset of Manus's madness, humanity grows and expands infinitely by the human's emotion powering it (If you lost humanity without dying, I feel like you would instantly die and hollow out, as the instant start of decomposition after loosing your life essence would be quite lethal indeed).
As Manus continued to rage, the Abyss grew from his blind fury, and lashed out at everything living, as Manus does. When he died, the main fuel source of the Abyss would be gone and it could not spread, so why would the Abyss appear outside Oolacile?
Personally I believe that the Abyss is not one location, but simply the result of humanity running wild and expanding over an area. For example, Wolnir's soul states that he killed hundreds of people "to outlive them all," and so this strong and evil desire could have disrupted his humanity and consumed Carthus in dark. It's possible that when the Undead Legion saw, they killed him to stop it from spreading further (hence why his skull is a chalice that leads into Wolnir's personal "hell" in the center of his own Abyss) and buried it underneath Farron, setting up a keep to prevent the humanity from seeping up from in Carthus.
When they became Lords of Cinder, the Abyss was not being fought back, and Farron and its legion was overrun by the dark. This could be why the watchers kill each other, and why some have the signature red eyes of Abyss corruption, as they would need to fight each other before attending to the darkened Farron outside.
The infinite nature of the Abyss is likely because of that as it expands, it becomes denser and moving through the dark takes time, though I cannot claim to know the physics of the dark soul.
As for the Deep I believe, from the human dregs description, that darkness has a tendency to separate from denser components and sink. Dark sorceries have a physical weight, as mentioned in ds1, so it's possible that this fluid material could eventually separate from itself. After thousands of years and linked fires, separate Abysses (or other compacted humanities) became filled with sediments that became stagnant, making them more potent and dangerous. So the Deep could be the literal filth of the dark soul and humanity, and forms after any one Abyss has remained undisturbed for some time, as stagnant water quickly becomes filthy and is likely to carry with it an infectious quality of some sort. Perhaps this caused Aldrich to become a cannibal, as his visions of a world where a giant Abyss covers the earth like and ocean (with the Deep being the dreg filled place that any remaining life settles into) were likely to have drawn him to investigate and eventually worship it, and could be the reason why he became sludge after bloating (consuming all that darkness, and thereby increasing the amount of potential sediment, could have collapsed him into pure sediment and truly make him the Deep's revered patron saint).
Does anything I just typed even make reasonable sense to anyone, or am I lost in my own ass here?
I think Paladin Leeroy attacks you because you have the Rite of Kindling. The main priority of the Way of the White is to get it.
darkzler um u cant go past pinwheel without the lord vessel..?
Lol I brain farted yea ur right
But that was already a part of the theory in the video, and does not go against the rest of the theory.
Loving your lore videos and umm... GRAVELORD SERVANT MASTER RACE!
Thank you so much, bro!
I'm glad that they're all holding up. :)
I think you mean SUNLIGHT WARRIOR MASTER RACE
What I think: Nito is Death, the Witch of Izalith had the Life Soul. Gwyn has the Light Soul, and Manus/The Furtive Pygmy had the Dark Soul. Light and Dark fluctuate, but the closest Life and Death get are to be reincarnated through each other. I.E. Death dies, and is born again. Life dies. Same thing. Cyclical, just not on the scale of Light and Dark.
this guy is my favs out of the others yet he's so mysterious he looks pretty badass compared to the other Lord's and I worship him still in ds3
that's real fuckin nito
Who is Nito? And what does Nito want?
Burritos.
hahahaha NO
Therotryzit burrnitos
I always enjoy listening to Dark Souls lore and uncovering all of the hidden details that are in plain sight. Like many of us I'm sure, we're subscribers to VaatiVidya, and would love to see more of this from both of you.
Gwyn, the god of life and Nito, the god of the dead...
I guess it's natural that the Undead go against both of their goals. They're neither living nor dead. It's highly appropriate that the Chosen Undead would be their opponent.
bed of chaos is life
@@terriblehibibi4333 the flame is life, bed of chaos is as it name states chaos
@@newdarkneoss3985 I am pretty sure that witch of izalith represents life
As huge a fan of both of them, that is a huge compliment to me. Thank you!
Wow, Nito's humanity aura, Nito's connection with the way of white, Paladin Leroy serving Nito (which would really explain his armour in Nito's arena much like Kirk near the fair lady), your speculation seems absolutely solid and quite possibly the best lore video on Nito I've seen. I can't really add anything to it as you and Vaatividya's video on Pinwheel has pretty much covered everything on Nito's domain.
And yes I would love to see more love videos as you do them really well.
Fantastic video. I think you're right about a few things related to Nito. The humanity aura around him is something I never really took note of, and is very interesting. Nito is my favorite entity in Dark Souls and I think the fact that he is shrouded in mystery really allows me to run wild with my imagination about him, and that's why I like him so much.
Also his style, imagery, and covenant are just the best to me as well.
Great video 5/5
Actually, it means a lot to me, so thank you very much!
Thank you so much! I'm really glad to hear that - it's amazing to me just how much content can still be found from this game.
ENB and Vaati have done such great jobs, that I don't really intend to (at least right now) tread over the same ground - unless I have a reason. (I intend to do a Pinwheel one, and for a reason).
Wait a moment; if Nito supported, and may still support, Gywn and his age of Fire, and Frampt the King Seeker supports the Age of Fire itself, why would he send you off to kill Gwyn's allies at all?
I believe, like you said in the comment, that King Seeker Frampt only supports the age of fire itself. Seeing as how Nito has no second thought about killing the undead that enters his lair, and spreading death everywhere else, Frampt may see this as an obstacle to his cause of finding the chosen undead to fuel the bonfires. Nito may support Gwyn, but as mentioned, only for as long as it is beneficial to them both.
Perhaps Frampt is being blinded just like the player is, and doesn't see the fact that Nito aids Gwyn, and sees only the fact that everytime Frampt may have found an undead strong enough to fuel the bonfire, he/she is shown no mercy when entering the tomb. (just speculation)
I think it is because Gywn is desperate to keep the age of fire going and thus wants to put as much power back into the flame as he possibly can. If you talk to Framp he will tell you that the beings that hold the lord souls have either chosen the path of wickedness (I.e Seath, Four Kings, Bed of Chaos) or have outlived their usefulness (Nito). While Nito is still Gywn's ally, he is more useful to the goal of continuing the age of fire as fuel for the flame, rather than as the lord of death.
don't forget. Frampt actually supports the coming of the age of dark. when you kill Gwyn. and exit. not lighting the last bonfire, evan if you don't give the lord vessal to Frampt first. he still shows up, with Kaathe. who supports the Age of dark straight up. and praises you, or something like that. mabey. the reason he tells you to light the last bonfire at all . is because he's against kaathe. in the way he wants to bring the Age of dark in his own way. mabey? :3 sorry if i misspelled anything. :/
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That's probably because the eternal snakes do not really care about anything but themselves. Frampt is the Kingseeker - and probably also the kingmaker, as long as they can control the flow of the diffrent ages they'll survive all of them.
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I wouldn't exactly say that just bowing down to the Lord of the Dark alone showed he was in support of the Age of Dark. Think of this; a powerful tyrant rises to the throne, and no matter how much the people dislike him, they still bow down to the king in fear. Serpents are often depicted as sly beings, and perhaps it is this behavior, that allowed them to survive through the ages and consequently earning the Primordial Serpent titles; they simply bow down to whoever holds power.
Frampt is probably aware that you need to offer the Lordvessel the Lord Souls in order to open the gate to the Kiln, and that alone takes priority over any allies that Gwyn once had when he was still sane, as you cannot relink the flame if you can't get to it in the first place.
the theme for nitos boss fight is outstanding! it gives you the feeling of overwhelming dread, the feeling that there is no possibility of victory. and when you win it's feels so amazing!
Super solid video w/ proper factual feedback. I'm loving it!
cept that the witch of izalith is the lord of life
Yeah… I amended that in both an annotation and the description.
Dig Dugg No worries at all! That's the hard part about uploading a video, haha. If I change my mind/learn something new, the video's already complete.
Great job - I hadn't realized any of that about Nito/Gwyn. The Paladin Leeroy stuff was really good!
This was great! It also plays very nicely into the way Dark Souls was based on ancient western lore, where the god of death was less often strictly "the bad guy", and more often just another god who just has a duty: to judge the dead and monitor their passage to the underworld.
I'd love to see more of these from you, the only criticism I had was that it was obvious you were reading from a script, which is a very minor thing!
This was great! It also plays very nicely into the way Dark Souls was based on ancient western lore, where the god of death was less often strictly "the bad guy" or a satanic figure, and more often just another god who just has a duty: to judge the dead and monitor their passage to the underworld.
I'd love to see more of these from you, the only criticism I had was that it was obvious you were reading from a script, which is a very minor thing!
This was great! It also plays very nicely into the way Dark Souls was based on ancient western lore, where the god of death was less often strictly "the bad guy", or to put it simply, Satan, and more often just another god who just has a duty: to judge the dead and monitor their passage to the underworld.
I'd love to see more of these from you, the only criticism I had was that it was obvious you were reading from a script, which is a very minor thing!
Youngster Joey mentioned that too, and I find it fascinating. I was thinking on it, and I think that it could be that Nito is a smaller being that uses the skeletons as his armor/coating. Look at how different his legs are too - they almost seem Dragon - or at least animal (like the skeleton dogs). The leg joint is backwards, like an animal would have.
Nice work man, that way you cross reference item descriptions is genius
Seigmeyer and the hmmm was subtle. Nicely done
Kindle the undead church. Kindle Anor Londo's inner wall. Kindle the catacombs. The tomb of the Giants. The Dukes Archives. Lost Izalith. Kindle Firelink Shrine. Strengthening the flames of fate. The bonds the undead share. Venturing onward, where others only dare. Beyond the ashes, in the heart of the flame. The place, where only embers remain. Sever the bond of cinder. And kindle the first flame. In order to remember. In order to try again.
Easily my favorite videos, the music, the deep stories. I was amazed most enemies in these games I enjoyed killing them after the ridiculous amount of death lol. But some ya almost regret. The butterfly, as a prime example. And the story is right there for you to see if ya look hard enough. Love your videos!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that.
I prefer TerraMantis"s videos, but more because I like the way he makes them into narratives rather than straight documentaries. And I also prefer his take on Paladin Leeroy's purpose for invading you.
Jake O'Shea Actually I am subscribed to Dave, VaatyVidya, Silver Mont and TerraMantis. It is the lore in general that fascinates me. Never really got much anywhere in the first Souls game lol but this was also before my PS3 dumped out on me. But made it to the first bell. Lol 2 has been the easiest for me so far.
darkwolf1989 I don't really like Silver, that accent is harsh on my ears, especially since I have to listen to it for 10-15 minutes at a time. However, he does have some interesting insights.
ha, loved the ending with us simply barging into his home, even before watching this and learning about Nito thru the game itself, I always thought Nito was the actual god of death and Gwyn god of light/life
I know everyone has moved on to DK2, but I just wanted to grow this out there. DKS takes many of its inspirations from pagan beliefs. I believe the reason Nito doesn't attacks you when you enter through the coffin is because when you are brought in through the coffin, this is the Gravelord servant rite.
But notice how the skeletons are kneeling before the pitfall in Nito's lair. Also notice the red carpet that lines the entrance ? This is a sacrificial pit. Most humans would die falling from that height, and by dying this way, they join Nito's army, but of course the player cant. I believe the pool where baby skeletons spawns also served as a sacred cenote like pool where parents would sacrifice their children as an offering to the death god.
The catacombs and TOG make much more sense when you view them from a religious standpoint. The clues add up when you factor in members of the way of white was down there, as was the sacred rite and occult shields.
This story's history and lore was made richer through the fromsoft team and the fans. It is always great to hear and see different perspectives, please continue your work.
Great work! I've been waiting forever for a Nito lore video.
I want to add that in the intro we see, that Nito is the first to grasp after the fire (he is also the only one of the four, whom we see physically reaching out for the flame). After that we see Nito, holding tight onto the flame, unlike the witch and pygme who seem to cradle the flame instead. In fact, Nito seem to look upon the fire with emotions like desire or obsession.
fucken love these old videos. makes me wish darksouls 3 had such an epic story
Wow, I never noticed that - very cool. (And my favorite Dark Souls trailer).
I'll say this, though. He does still have the black/white around him. - Just with an extra red.
- Regardless, I do still think the connections make sense. (Way of White, etc).
more videos!! i love dark souls lore.
This deserves more views! Very solid lore video.
This is my favorite lore video so far!!
When Nito is called First of the Dead, we are shown in the cinematic several humanoids walking to their death. Therefore, the implication is that he is made up of a collection of the first beings that died. That’s why he appears to made up of multiple corpses and is called the first of the dead.
This was both entertaining and informative.
Right on.
i watched all vaaty vidia lores and i am watching yours now, congratulations
Wow, this really did open my eyes on a lot about Nito. Great video man!
I now feel like I've shortchanged my Dark Souls experience by not reading all of the item descriptions. So much lore!
Glad you made these, just started the series and I have NOOOO idea what the hell is going on. lol
With every action there is an equal opposite reaction...further supporting your theory...Hmm...Physics never lies... :)
Mind fucking blown...
I love Nito's design so much omg
He's shrouded in a cloak of humanity because he wears a kind of coat of human corpses. The innate humanity those people had within them must have never been taken. For a while I had thought the skeletons lined up on the walls in Pinwheel's room were parts of Nito's "clothes" , where he had some of his power stored.
Great video by the way.
Great video, really shines some light on Nito and his story. I feel that he is the most underrepresented lord in the game, there isn't that much direct information about him, but you did a great job of putting the pieces together.
everytime I think about nito this comes to my mind "My name is death, you'll come to know me well. I'll steal your soul, and leave a lifeless shell. You creep into my room, and my soul is what you crave. But tonight I'm taking you to an early slumber, an early grave." or something like that
@DaveControlLive this lore video was fantastic, you did a great job and brought stuff that no one has thought about i hope that the next vid has just as much thought and you just gave me an idea what if humanity is what has been preserving the minds of the npcs like rhea who are already turning undead but keep using humanity to maintain their sanity
You have some very interesting speculation going on there, i can't believe i haven't made the correlation between Nito and Gwyn myself, anyway as a dark souls fanatic(4000 plus hours) i really enjoyed the video, i am impressed you managed to bring a point of the lore that hasn't discussed to death on the community, yet, and presented it so well. I say that if you can keep your lore videos separated from the ones that came before and focus on exploring "new" aspects of the lore i will be happy.
man i was just thinking that they should make dark souls movies
that'd be so epic
definitly would like to see more from you. good work man
The more who live, the more who are destined to die. By rekindling the bonfires Nito keeps this cycle going
Nito attack the Chosen Undead knowing or assume that the Chosen Undead have become the pawn of Gwyndolin to kill him.
Very entertaining and intresting, well done man that was a great Nito lore.
Very good video, I was expecting such a video to be from a Nito fanatic of death and gothic stuff, which would have probably taught me nothing interesting xD But you developped great ways of thinking about Dark Souls' lore :) Great job !
Amazing 5 Star video keep up the good work
We also know that as the flame fades the cures runs rampant. More undead would mean that there are less dead, so it would be in Nito's interest to continue the age of fire as it would increase his power.
Great Vid, loved how you used in game events to extrapolate story. i.e. Paladin Leeroy. I subbed and am looking forward to seeing more!
Nito is a Bonemancer '-'
Yes, I would love to see more lore videos! Pretty please!
Another great video man I love this series binging every episode now 👏 subbed and liked 👍
Great video, it cleared up a bit of something I've been wondering, about why his blade spell is actually a "Miracle", a very "one of these things is not like the other" situation, but his connection to the Way of White explains that a bit. I'd like to hear more speculation on deeper origins, like how exactly did Nito rise to power? Who perhaps was he before being the First of the dead? Also to be exact, I think Gwyn is primarily the Lord of Light, and the Witch of Izalith is the Lord of Life.
This was fantastic, thank you so much 🙏🏻
Great video! Keep the awesome content coming!
I think you tough this lore trough very well, well done! :)
I would say that Gwyn is the Lord of Light, as opposed to the Lord of Life. How ironic I think it is, that Gwyn of all people, is afraid of the Dark(Humans)
I personally think that the Witch of Izalith holds the "Life Soul" Seeing as it was seemingly fire, that created life, and the Witch herself inadvertently created Demons when trying to recreate the First Flame.
Great video dude, Nito is an interesting character. I'm looking forward to more :)
dude i love your videos they are very helpful for me to under strand t
he lore behind an already amazing games
love your lore video! You really seem to think outside the box!
Thanks so much!
love the videos dave! Ive watched em all like 6 times, i learn new stuff each time and that makes playing the game and exploring that much better! Great job man!
Thank you so much! The Gwyn/Nito connection made so much sense, that when it clicked - I was like... this video needs to happen. Haha.
Sweet video, super interesting perspective on Nito
This was top. I really want to see more lore vids from you
That's really interesting. There's the connection with the Basilisks, but I never thought of that. Great observation!
Thank you so much! As a huge fan of your videos, I'm happy to hear you enjoyed mine! - And, also that you have an appreciation and understanding for the work that goes into it.
Excellent video! Interesting reveal there, the Age of Fire is fueled by Death in a way.
Pretty symbolic; I think the Souls team did a really good job of capturing that "feel" of western mythology.
Great work with the video! You had pretty appropriate screenplay and good audio cues.
I really enjoyed the content and environment set. Keep at it, bro!
nice vid,loved it,nito is one tuff boss to beat for sure!
this was the first lore video i ever watched from dave , lol 5/5 purteh gud
You sir are a legend Knight Sparkl- Artorious.
nito is now my fav boss
I like to think that Nito was brought unlife by the Fire. In the opening scene, he appears to just be laying there, but when the Fire came, he rose up quickly, as if brought toward it, and making the Lord Soul an inherent part of him.
As usual, great video.
Thinking about it right now, what benefit would the chosen one gain by serving any of Gwyn or Nito?
It makes you feel, the chosen one was used all along for the purpose of making the first flame last longer but it cannot last forever anyway.
I really wish Miyazaki would put a new game where it shows the age of man; the age of Dark.
I think it will be interesting.
I subscribed, and can't wait to see more! I'm a VaatiVidya fan, as well as ENB, but I'm very happy to see a new personality that wants to explore the topics that haven't been covered yet!
I'd love to get more of your lore videos! This one got me newly excited to play DS, as well as super excited about DS2 for the simple fact that we'll have a shit ton more to marvel over :) cheers!
Thanks! Yeah, I've been going back and forth. I view Gwyn as being similar to Zeus (with Nito being similar to Hades). So, in that regard he seems like a God of life (at least, human life, as the Way of the White and others worship him).
- On the flip side, he's known for SunLIGHT, hence the heavy light connection. And The Witch of Izalith created the Bed of LIFE, and created the life of all demons, so she actually did create a form life itself.
So much of Dark Souls connects to Greek Mythology if you think of the first dragons as the Titans and Gwyn as Zeus. The simple act of taking power from the dragons and creating the age of fire sounds similar to Zeus freeing his brothers and sisters from the belly of Cronus. Dave, your theory reminds me of the relationship between Hades and Zeus and I couldn't agree more.
great vid. just got DS2 and now im obsessed and need to know more about the lore. on a side note, you really sound like ghostrobo