Who Would Canonically Win? - Greninja vs Diddy Kong

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  • Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
  • Who would win in a canonical fight between Greninja from Pokemon and Diddy Kong, the musical chimpnee of Congo Bongo Island from the Donkey Kong universe? Today we break down both of their abilities and have an animated battle to figure out that answer. Smash Bracket is an animated Vs Battle series created by InkThinks dedicated to answering the question... Who is canonically the strongest character in Super Smash Bros History?
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  • @SmashBracket
    @SmashBracket  3 роки тому +19

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    • @Ks10channel
      @Ks10channel 2 роки тому +2

      Ink I was binging the bracket out of my sheer love for this series and I realised this video isn’t in the smash bracket playlist. Could you fix that?

    • @SmashBracket
      @SmashBracket  2 роки тому +3

      @@Ks10channel absolutely! Thanks for watching. Fixing it right now.

    • @ElijahW2003
      @ElijahW2003 2 роки тому +1

      When Diddy said "It's Kongin' time" and Konged all over Greninja, it truly became an episode of all time for me
      -I was gonna use "peanut-pop" instead of "Kong" for the joke but after a second of reading what I had just written elected not to lmao-

    • @RedMooshroom42
      @RedMooshroom42 Рік тому +1

      ​@@SmashBracket can you do Sheik vs Greninja or Sora vs Shulk

    • @thecursed_1lordofcats738
      @thecursed_1lordofcats738 Рік тому +1

      ​@@RedMooshroom42 Shiek vs Greninja could be cool, but based on what little I know of Kingdom Hearts, that wouldn't be fair to Sora. Shulk has future sight and universal feats thanks to the ending of Xenoblade 1 since he literally killed a god.

  • @certainfriends
    @certainfriends 3 роки тому +152

    Man it sure was crazy when Diddy grabbed the chaos emeralds and slapped Greninja into the moon

  • @counterfeitlemon
    @counterfeitlemon 3 роки тому +132

    I want to clarify that the calculation that Ink showed for Diddy Kong crashing into the moon was only accounting for the power required to make the moon wiggle by one pixel. So even with an extreme lowball, it was 6 billion times higher than anything else Diddy had. If we were to actually calculate it getting knocked out of the sky, it would be even higher.

    • @exi_dudi2037
      @exi_dudi2037 3 роки тому +9

      Don't you know that special days where you knock the moon out of the sky, it for some reason isn't even bigger than a jungle but you need multiple hits to destroy a airplane? Can relate

    • @counterfeitlemon
      @counterfeitlemon 3 роки тому +13

      @@exi_dudi2037 That's obviously because the airplane was made of Moon

    • @exi_dudi2037
      @exi_dudi2037 3 роки тому +8

      @@counterfeitlemon I think King rool is made of moon as well. BUT THAT'S JUST A THEORY. A GAME THEORY

    • @onLinkage
      @onLinkage 3 роки тому +6

      Greninja is a tactical character with many tools at his disposal, he can break the laws of physics, he's a mix of tactical manoeuvre and brute force with sharp elegance at the forefront! 😎 !

    • @buzter8135
      @buzter8135 2 роки тому +2

      @@onLinkage he had no way around Diddy's insane durability, he gets outlasted.

  • @leontriestomeme9712
    @leontriestomeme9712 3 роки тому +196

    The alternate universe version of Godzilla vs. Kong

    • @browncow5210
      @browncow5210 3 роки тому +35

      Naw, that's going to be Bowser vs DK.

    • @jaxonjaxon1069
      @jaxonjaxon1069 3 роки тому +7

      @@browncow5210 man i feel like that fight is gonna be hype

    • @youngboi5680
      @youngboi5680 3 роки тому +4

      underrated comment

    • @DudeYouFumbled
      @DudeYouFumbled 2 роки тому +6

      Frog vs monke

    • @RedMooshroom42
      @RedMooshroom42 Рік тому +2

      ​@@browncow5210 I think it would be Dk vs Ridley because I don't think they'd make people from the same franchise fight

  • @leontriestomeme9712
    @leontriestomeme9712 3 роки тому +75

    Smash bracket makes the fact that my memory sucks actually fun, cause I forget what episodes are in development and then get super hyped when I get notifications

    • @canned3880
      @canned3880 3 роки тому +1

      Honestly, I was confused when I saw this out

  • @ezequielschlaen5992
    @ezequielschlaen5992 3 роки тому +54

    If you think about it, Greninja shouldn't have been abre to steal Diddy's potion, as he was already holding the mystic water. But I guess not being abre to steal becuase you already have an item is as illogical as needing a specific move to steal the item

    • @a1marine105
      @a1marine105 Рік тому +2

      I mean to be fair greninja did even go ash greninjs

    • @bruce4139
      @bruce4139 Рік тому

      Cant you steal an item but just not grab it if you have an item?

    • @axillaryclinical
      @axillaryclinical Рік тому

      That’s not how it works

    • @Joh-o1r
      @Joh-o1r 7 місяців тому

      Greninja learns thief

    • @Joh-o1r
      @Joh-o1r 7 місяців тому

      By tm

  • @TheGalWithAPlan55425
    @TheGalWithAPlan55425 3 роки тому +101

    I feel like you are one the first Vs battle I have seen with Diddy Kong that gets his personally right! He isn't just a monkey (dissipate how he is portrayed in Smash Bors.), but I fun loving kid how is still trying to figure out how the world works! AMAZING work with portraying the characters (honestly, don't know why I keep getting surprised by your work)!

    • @saxophonebuizel2458
      @saxophonebuizel2458 2 роки тому

      Fun fact trick and switcheroo are moves that allow you to swap or take items from the opponent

  • @Robertz702
    @Robertz702 3 роки тому +134

    When I first heard of this fight, I didn't think that I would enjoy it but this blew me away. Definitely one of my favorite smash fights (along with Kirby vs Jigglypuff and Pikachu vs Pacman). I'm a bit bias since greninja is my main and my all time favorite pokemon but this was an awesome battle regardless.

    • @braylenswain4017
      @braylenswain4017 3 роки тому +1

      A fellow Greninja main!? I'm not the only one I'm existance!?! Impossible...

    • @Robertz702
      @Robertz702 3 роки тому

      @@braylenswain4017 Nope, the impossible is possible. I see another greninja has made an appearance. Looks like I'm not alone.

    • @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569
      @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 2 роки тому

      Greninga should have lost.

    • @Masterxhaley
      @Masterxhaley Рік тому

      @@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 no

    • @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569
      @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 Рік тому +1

      @@Masterxhaley Yes. They had to buff him by giving him 80+ moves which is obviously impossible for a Pokémon to have that many and assuming that Greninga was capable of using Diddy Kong’s items. Additionally, they did the opposite for Diddy and called his best feat an outlier just because it didn’t please them

  • @John_the_Paul
    @John_the_Paul Рік тому +2

    You almost scared the life out of me with that car shot

  • @himignicest1571
    @himignicest1571 Рік тому +2

    dude, can i just say THIS IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE, your channel is INSANE?? came from ur schraff video and I came upon your million underated works, like there's absolutely no way I thought this existed a few minutes ago, THE EFFORT IN EVERY VIDEO?? GOOD SIR THAN YOU FOR UR EXISTANCE

  • @kestrel7493
    @kestrel7493 3 роки тому +9

    Greninjas ability to steal items makes him a real dark horse depending on the matchup. Super star? His now. Chaos emerald? His now

  • @rodrickgoldberg2324
    @rodrickgoldberg2324 3 роки тому +37

    Dang, I thought Diddy would have won because of the moon feat. But I can respect your reasoning for not really including it when comparing it to all their other feats.
    GG, Greninja. But future battles will push you to your limit!
    As for next time, it may as well just be Steve and Alex fighting. Zombies are straight up cannon fodder. And while an Enderman can be intimidating at first with their erratic nature and teleporting away from all projectiles, they’re not so bad against an experienced Minecraft adventurer with good equipment. Which I’m assuming you’ll treat Steve and Alex as such.

    • @Gamer_27yt
      @Gamer_27yt 3 роки тому +9

      Not many people know this, but for the Minecraft Battle Royale, the Smash Bracket Team will be taking the novels into account. So don’t count out the Enderman and Zombies just yet 😉

    • @rodrickgoldberg2324
      @rodrickgoldberg2324 3 роки тому +6

      @@Gamer_27yt
      There are Minecraft novels? How can what happens in them possibly help Zombie and Enderman?

  • @palmtree2711
    @palmtree2711 3 роки тому +6

    I love how expressive the animation was, the sprites were great and I loved the slapstick-style combat.

  • @browncow5210
    @browncow5210 3 роки тому +38

    The animated bits are looking slick. Looking forward to seeing that evolve in the future.
    This analysis got me wondering about something random. How does the ground type Z-move work in the anime? That one was always pretty insane looking in Sun and Moon.

  • @Dracometeor213
    @Dracometeor213 3 роки тому +4

    This was soooooo good man I can’t wait for the rest keep up the good work!

  • @bubbaj3314
    @bubbaj3314 3 роки тому +6

    Fight was so smooth! Loved it. Good work to everyone who worked on it, as always.

  • @ElijahW2003
    @ElijahW2003 2 роки тому +2

    Diddy Kong: **exists in general vicinity**
    Greninja: "So anyways, I started Water Shurikening-"

  • @dannyboielsegundo9873
    @dannyboielsegundo9873 2 роки тому +2

    At the end of Donkey Kong Country Returns, if you beat the final boss with only Diddy, he slams his head so hard into the moon that it falls out of orbit.

  • @Toadiferous
    @Toadiferous 3 роки тому +20

    I feel like if we're gonna exclude things like Diddy knocking the moon out of orbit, we shouldn't really count Greninja's "durability" surviving things like Z moves in the anime. Greninja is built like a glass canon in the games, not a Pokemon with high endurance. (72 base HP, 67 base defense, 71 base sp. def)
    Plus he's Dark type which is weak to Fighting. Diddy Kong uses a ton of hand to hand fighting and acrobatics, so Greninja should be getting KO'd even faster.
    Greninja is also balanced around having four move slots, and Thief can't be used while already holding an item (Mystic Water).
    This fight did Diddy more justice than most people give him, but it really skewed Greninja a little too strong if you ask me.

    • @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569
      @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 2 роки тому +5

      They are just biased towards Pokemons. A Pokémon cannot learn 80 moves at the same time. And Diddy’s durability was higher.

    • @cbfranco3307
      @cbfranco3307 2 роки тому +3

      @@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 "a pokemon cannot learn 80 moves at the same time"
      That's called game mechanics,but anyway,the real problem here is that they used ANIME feats. That's non canon.

    • @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569
      @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 2 роки тому +3

      @@cbfranco3307 That’s what I meant! In the games a Pokémon can only learn four moves and it’s not a game mechanic.

    • @CARTER_IS_CUTE
      @CARTER_IS_CUTE 2 роки тому +3

      @@cbfranco3307 They can't only use game feats because it is nearly impossible to calculate them

    • @CARTER_IS_CUTE
      @CARTER_IS_CUTE 2 роки тому +3

      @@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 They have to use the anime for it because it is nearly impossible to calculate game feats and in the anime pokemon can know more than 4 moves at a time

  • @jasonkoopman13
    @jasonkoopman13 3 роки тому +4

    I love how Kirby keeps just showing up in these.

  • @caltontherobot7768
    @caltontherobot7768 3 роки тому +11

    well, i'm sad Diddy lost, but at least it wasn't gory, and the music track rocks.
    looking forward to the godly Minecraft Battle Royale, especially the Music track Skye will make for the Royale

    • @caltontherobot7768
      @caltontherobot7768 3 роки тому

      @David Goldammer it could be anything, but it would be nice if they remixed one of the original Minecraft themes like Sweden or Pigstep

  • @thegriffithwolf7071
    @thegriffithwolf7071 3 роки тому +2

    The battle was epic to see, I never thought I've ever see the fight like this, but it's nothing compared to the fights from Sephiroth vs Mewtwo and Ryu vs Lucario those were breath taking, but I do give credit for what you and the others did for fight and I like it a lot so good job.

  • @jasonbell8515
    @jasonbell8515 3 роки тому +11

    Is nobody going to point out that thief doesn’t work with a held item?

  • @chihuzu
    @chihuzu 3 роки тому +12

    It’s sad to see Diddy dying to greninja, despite me loving him. I really love this fight cause not only did it study their strength, ability, etc but they also have NICE art style!

    • @sonix-artmore5548
      @sonix-artmore5548 3 роки тому +10

      Don't worry, he's not dead. He just got bonked by his own guitar.

    • @marioalbertomoreno3819
      @marioalbertomoreno3819 3 роки тому +11

      not dead, just knocked out, Pokémon battles are, after all, until the K.O

  • @Ahahashir
    @Ahahashir 3 роки тому +9

    I really prefer the pixel animation, looks so nice

  • @fatalwaffle1715
    @fatalwaffle1715 Рік тому +2

    Awesome video bro!

  • @speedshoes29
    @speedshoes29 3 роки тому +15

    I’m surprised Greninja doesn’t use his Battle Bond ability in this match.

    • @stylishgaby
      @stylishgaby 3 роки тому +10

      it's explained in the Greninja section : basically we didn't have an Ash Gren sprite available

    • @Lechampion3
      @Lechampion3 3 роки тому +1

      @@stylishgaby i figured they wanted to save that for later

    • @CookieGal-
      @CookieGal- 3 роки тому +2

      Pretty sure it has to get a kill to get that

    • @speedshoes29
      @speedshoes29 3 роки тому +1

      @@CookieGal- It didn’t need that in the anime

    • @pksprite6401
      @pksprite6401 3 роки тому

      @@speedshoes29 I thought he wasn’t supposed to be going off the anime (non-canon material)

  • @djdjinn6340
    @djdjinn6340 3 роки тому +1

    Loving this series so much! You guys do such great work on both the analysis AND the fight animations! Top tier stuff. Move over, death battle!

  • @maximumearl963
    @maximumearl963 3 роки тому +9

    These battles keep getting better and better, I can’t wait for the next one! I really wanted diddy Kong to win, cooler character than greninja IMO, fight me comments section. But I can’t argue with the great research you and your team do, I was able to have ryu beat lucario, so I had to take some loss. TL:DR, this battle was great, can’t wait for the Minecraft fight and the alternate ending to this one👍🏻

    • @pksprite6401
      @pksprite6401 3 роки тому +1

      Greninja is awesome, but I hate his analysis of the Pokémon using anime stuff. Like wow, Greninja survived a Z-move that it’s type is resistant too? 🙄

  • @vidvid5008
    @vidvid5008 2 роки тому +2

    Smash bracket: we shouldn’t count the moon feat as it’s a comedic joke. Me: A FEAT IS A FEAT!

  • @kingtallzilla6919
    @kingtallzilla6919 3 роки тому +6

    Boomstick: I guess poor Diddy wasn't the "chimpney-ion" in the fight
    Wiz: Ugh. (Wiz proceeds to slap himself in the face)
    Wiz: The winner is Greninja

  • @narrowlyavoid
    @narrowlyavoid 3 роки тому +8

    I think ya hit it outta the park with the editing! For Greninja's section especially, I loved all the little animations, small little details, etc. The fight animation was amazing as well, I especially loved how expressive Diddy was. Very excited for Minecraft BR, and hoping for a Hero BR also. Keep up the fantastic work!

  • @ElijahW2003
    @ElijahW2003 2 роки тому +4

    Hmmm, personally I don't like considering things outliers, since in my opinion if it happened then it happened (I believe Ben Singer of Death Battle once said something similar in a Q&A,) but that's just my personal opinion. Can't complain anyway, my preferred character won lol. Solid episode overall!

  • @davidt4827
    @davidt4827 3 роки тому +2

    Oh thank goodness, I don’t have to choose between two of my mains (yet). I’ll admit I was expecting the villager vs Steve matchup, but this works to.
    This was also a pretty fun fight, I liked how both personalities were on display.

  • @mr.creeper6836
    @mr.creeper6836 3 роки тому +4

    Smash Bracket pokemon starter kit:
    Thousands of battles
    Under the guidance of a skilled trainer
    Poison bad

  • @ultracommander8368
    @ultracommander8368 2 роки тому +3

    No one absolutely no one: *PEANUT POP GUN!*

  • @reygoh9944
    @reygoh9944 3 роки тому +5

    Why was the part where Diddy Kong popped out the flamethrower not in the fight, but in the post analysis section?

  • @goldenphoenix3238
    @goldenphoenix3238 3 роки тому +1

    Another amazing fight and analysis as always! I’m always late for the episode haha but I’m glad to watch it. Can’t wait for the Minecraft Battle Royale!!

  • @FinalSmash11
    @FinalSmash11 3 роки тому +8

    Anyone else saw the footage at 6:23 and started expecting the worst?

  • @chaoscrow27
    @chaoscrow27 3 роки тому +3

    I was hoping Greninja would win, but i=at the same time i was scarred when I thought Diddy was gonna be ripped to peices or sliced up at the end. Thank god he was just hit in the back of his head with a guitar

  • @WhyDoesRockXRollExist
    @WhyDoesRockXRollExist 9 днів тому +1

    6:22
    I expected the worst.

  • @lemmy15yt
    @lemmy15yt 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks, I now hold a grudge against greninja.

  • @kingcandy2185
    @kingcandy2185 Рік тому +1

    Two things that Greninja actually needed, *mind-reader and Thief*

  • @dxrkness4802
    @dxrkness4802 3 роки тому +6

    Oh shit I got a prediction right! I'm too proud of myself lmao
    Thanks for the feature

    • @dxrkness4802
      @dxrkness4802 3 роки тому +1

      @David Goldammer Nice! Also, yes. Yes it does lol

  • @dekadoma
    @dekadoma 3 роки тому +2

    6:23 thx now im retraumatised

  • @Sol_Z
    @Sol_Z 3 роки тому +8

    A Minecraft royale? I’m hyped now!

  • @StarWalker-si4nm
    @StarWalker-si4nm 2 роки тому +1

    This was really good and creative I loved this fight.

  • @thecapicorn4659
    @thecapicorn4659 3 роки тому +2

    Ah yes. Greninjas most strongest defense against Diddy Kong. The same day as my birthday

  • @jdat6960
    @jdat6960 3 роки тому +5

    Growl should work on the peanut gun. Moves like breaking swipe still lower the power of decidueye's spirit shackle, in which he uses a bow. The bow's power wouldn't be affected if attack lowering moves didn't impact weapons.

    • @amongdrip8073
      @amongdrip8073 Рік тому

      ​@@folmhaigh039How can weapons be biologically part of an animal tho?

    • @amongdrip8073
      @amongdrip8073 Рік тому

      @@folmhaigh039 I'm talking about forged weapons, not natural weapons, you are misrepresenting my words.

    • @amongdrip8073
      @amongdrip8073 Рік тому

      @@folmhaigh039 Besides it still doesn't make any sense, this is the same universe that can't properly explain why Cubones form skulls on their heads due to a really dumb origin story that falls apart under the scrutiny of an entire species.

  • @jax.8720
    @jax.8720 3 роки тому +5

    You know I might be going insane but, am I the only one who thinks Sheik vs Solid Snake sound like it would be dope?

  • @thomasroberts5624
    @thomasroberts5624 3 роки тому +6

    So pokemon get all there feats from there games,anime and manga but we can't usediddys strongest feat

  • @themustachioedfish5988
    @themustachioedfish5988 3 роки тому +6

    You know, Greninja's ability to steal items might let him beat characters like Steve or Link, who's powers mainly depend on items to be any good.

    • @ShayZelle96
      @ShayZelle96 3 роки тому +2

      Pikachu who is faster can learn thief as well so if they are applying it with Greninja when relevant I hope they do it with Pikachu as well.

    • @GamingMaster-le1kp
      @GamingMaster-le1kp 2 роки тому +1

      @@ShayZelle96 pikachu is not faster than greninja

  • @shinyberd
    @shinyberd 3 роки тому +1

    I hope this channel blow up

  • @thejester4130
    @thejester4130 3 роки тому

    I know that this is going to be a nuts battle that I'll be glad to hop into

  • @rockingpox2274
    @rockingpox2274 3 роки тому +5

    So are you going to use Donkey Kong's moon punch feat in DK vs Bowser? I feel like if he doesn't have that then the fight would be a wrap

    • @jaxonjaxon1069
      @jaxonjaxon1069 3 роки тому +2

      Probs, as it seems less comedic as DK actually used a Meaty Punch

    • @buzter8135
      @buzter8135 Рік тому

      @@jaxonjaxon1069 Some serious mental gymnastics comes into play if DK gets the moon punch, as both scenes are functionally identical.

  • @-neb-1342
    @-neb-1342 3 роки тому +3

    6:24
    People who dont know: :)
    People who know: :(

  • @Mrangrybird-vg1iy
    @Mrangrybird-vg1iy 3 роки тому +3

    wait a minute... 13:13 you forgot the donkey kong barrel blast games and diddy kong racing!!!!!!! what do you mean he has no areal skills???

  • @arrogantschmuck9593
    @arrogantschmuck9593 3 роки тому +4

    Ink: "We're not using the moon feat 'cause it's clearly a comedic scene and the physics don't make sense"
    Also Ink: "tHe PeAnUtS tRaVeL fAsTeR tHaN sOuNd"
    It's almost like the Donkey Kong series' style is inherently cartoon-ish and slapstick-y with unusual physics! I also want to point out that Diddy survives the explosion that launched him and DK to the moon in the first place.

    • @stevenpowers5166
      @stevenpowers5166 3 роки тому

      The peanuts are much more consistent than the moon feat the peanuts aren’t used for gags they are used for gameplay but the moon feats are because if they were to count the moon feat even if it was to move one pixel it would be 6 billion times stronger than anything diddy has done also when did ink say that peanuts traveled faster than sound he said it was faster than most speed limits which is much much slower than the speed of sound

    • @SmashBracket
      @SmashBracket  3 роки тому +1

      He is correct, it’s common knowledge that sound moves at 68mph

    • @arrogantschmuck9593
      @arrogantschmuck9593 3 роки тому +1

      @@SmashBracket The faster than sound bit was a bit of hyperbole on my part. The point is peanuts moving faster than cars doesn't make much sense from a physics standpoint, yet you used that despite discounting the moon feat for being weird physics-wise. I realize that's not the main reason for not using it, but it's still odd to me to even bring it up when little about the DK series' cartoon-ish presentation makes sense from a physics POV.

    • @buzter8135
      @buzter8135 Рік тому

      @@arrogantschmuck9593 At least someone said it.

  • @davidgoldammer348
    @davidgoldammer348 3 роки тому +2

    10:52 THERE I AM GARY THERE I AM!

  • @Fairgame7707
    @Fairgame7707 3 роки тому +1

    So both fighters survived. That’s good to hear

  • @zachnapa1191
    @zachnapa1191 3 роки тому +2

    Wait a minute! The post analysis showed diddy Kong using his flamethrower. That never happened in the fight.

    • @SmashBracket
      @SmashBracket  3 роки тому +1

      Haha you will have to wait for the alternate ending to see what that was all about

  • @reptilez5798
    @reptilez5798 3 роки тому +1

    imagine seing this on your monday stroll

  • @JRENZO10
    @JRENZO10 3 роки тому +2

    You have to go through 9:53 FRAME BY FRAME (or 0.25x speed) to see Kirby sleeping there

    • @LittleJBD
      @LittleJBD 3 роки тому

      I saw that wile watching the vid for the first time with out

  • @themightykingjosiah8810
    @themightykingjosiah8810 3 роки тому +4

    Based on the rules for feats/scaling on these videos, boy oh boy do I have a strong feeling Bowser's gonna get hell'a downplayed on his fight... who's he up against anyway?

    • @molonjamesbert4796
      @molonjamesbert4796 3 роки тому +4

      Bowser is fighting DK

    • @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569
      @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 2 роки тому

      Bowser and DK are both gonna get downplayed to building level and DK will win with this rule because they are gonna call everything they did an outlier.

    • @CARTER_IS_CUTE
      @CARTER_IS_CUTE 2 роки тому

      @@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 Read the top comment

    • @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569
      @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 2 роки тому

      @@CARTER_IS_CUTE ???

    • @CARTER_IS_CUTE
      @CARTER_IS_CUTE 2 роки тому +1

      @@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 the comment said the feat was 6 billion times higher than anything diddy had done

  • @pedropony9563
    @pedropony9563 3 роки тому +4

    yo this series is sick and I agree with most of the rules and I do disagree that anime should count but thats just my opinion but I feel like the pokemon should only have 4 moves as in the anime and games.

  • @vito6197
    @vito6197 3 роки тому +1

    I'd be lying if I said I was surprised.

  • @jeremycabochan1077
    @jeremycabochan1077 3 роки тому +2

    As a Greninja main and a Diddy Kong secondary I enjoyed this video very much!!

  • @redwings13400
    @redwings13400 Рік тому

    One thing I've always found weird about these series is how everyone calculates durability and power. While this isn't true for pokemon, a lot of video game series classify durability in number of hits instead of force projected, which I think needs to be taken in to account. This essentially gives characters a set damage cap, meaning they can take any attack, no matter its strength, and have it count as one hit against them. This is why in games like mario, lava is such a powerful enemy, not because it creates a force that's dramatically greater than other things that can hit mario, but because Mario has no way of getting out of the lava, which means he will continuously take one point of damage at a time until his life total runs out.
    Diddy's moon scene makes sense when put in this context. He simply took one point of damage while hitting the moon. The actual force of impact is completely and utterly irrelevant.

  • @tylermadril9338
    @tylermadril9338 9 місяців тому

    That was such an awesome battle. It’s sad though that Diddy Kong was fighting a way more skilled opponent. I appreciate that he was only knocked out instead of brutally murdered or beaten

  • @technoneko8108
    @technoneko8108 3 роки тому +2

    What your analyzing as diddy shooting the ground with his pop gun, i always thought that was just him slapping the ground

  • @jasxonevans8696
    @jasxonevans8696 3 роки тому +2

    Dang I didn't even think I needed a fight like this. This was awesome hey can you enter Sora from Kingdom Hearts. You guys have the same potential as Death Battle has. Keep up the good work.

  • @SparkBase16
    @SparkBase16 3 роки тому +1

    6:23 just seeing this video clip gave me PTSD

  • @TheKaizoMario
    @TheKaizoMario 3 роки тому +3

    Y'know, this makes me wonder what feats they'll give Luigi. I mean, he technically has the same abilities as Mario, but I don't know if they'll scale him to Mario.

    • @Lechampion3
      @Lechampion3 3 роки тому +1

      Unless he fought pac-man lugigi cant use his mansion games

  • @mariowithcoolglasses3640
    @mariowithcoolglasses3640 3 роки тому +9

    Spoilers:
    When diddywas stuck in the vines I was scared greninja would just rip him apart

    • @Panman11
      @Panman11 3 роки тому +6

      I thought it was gonna be a Tarzan death

    • @braylenswain4017
      @braylenswain4017 3 роки тому

      Lol same but I'm glad my boi has honor

    • @marioalbertomoreno3819
      @marioalbertomoreno3819 3 роки тому +1

      I was too, but Pokémon battles are until the K.O, so it makes sense to Greninja to just do that

  • @aboodsart
    @aboodsart Рік тому

    Finally someone who doesn’t use the moon scene as proof of their strength.(knuckles vs donkey Kong)

  • @supersonicjayden3758
    @supersonicjayden3758 3 роки тому +1

    5 Pokémon Battles in a row lol

  • @FastestAlive01
    @FastestAlive01 3 роки тому +2

    Next time is pretty obvious.
    Steve kills zombies with his bare hands on a daily basis, it's, his full Arsenal is way more than enough to kill an underman and Steve has way more experience than Alex.
    Since Stephen Alex have the same abilities II guess it doesn't really matter who wins? Either way Steve or Alex both beat villager and that makes me happy.
    Yes, even with bracket rules Steve should win. Without them it's even worse for villager
    Anyways, this episode was great and I was very surprised with the outcome, yet you've convinced me. Keep up the fantastic work!

    • @nightmare3642
      @nightmare3642 3 роки тому

      I mean, it's entirely possible for an enderman to kill Steve and same with a zombie.

    • @FastestAlive01
      @FastestAlive01 3 роки тому

      @@nightmare3642 Well yea, but if these characters are at their best then yea Steve or Alex win.

  • @Cascade92
    @Cascade92 3 роки тому +2

    I 100% understand why this channel is "underrated"
    It feels so biased in a lot of battles. All the previous Pokemon battles had an extreme biased towards the Pokemon. Even going so far as to ignore basic facts in favor of the Pokemon.
    Like having more than four moves, saying moves are more deadly than they actually are, interactions with beings that are not Pokemon, and in this battle, he is capable of using basically alien weapons
    AND HE CAN DRINK POTIONS WHICH POKEMON CANNOT DO

    • @davidgoldammer348
      @davidgoldammer348 3 роки тому

      then why can I literally use a potion on my Pokemon

    • @Rablat333
      @Rablat333 3 роки тому

      Literally only 2 Pokémon have won. Pikachu and Greninja. How is that bias
      They ignore the 4 move limit because it's a lame gameplay mechanic. They aren't limited to 4 in the anime. If you wanna use gameplay mechanics for Pokémon, you have to for everyone, and that's lame. Do you wanna see Diddy die in two hits, because thats how it is in game?

    • @Cascade92
      @Cascade92 3 роки тому

      @@davidgoldammer348 Your Pokémon can't use a potion on itself

    • @Cascade92
      @Cascade92 3 роки тому

      @@Rablat333Just because only 2 have won, doesn't make it not bias. They gave Pokémon more leeway than they should have.
      Plus the biggest thing, pokemon are weak af, ash has gotten electrocuted thousands of times by moves that KO'd pokemon. People get hit by hyperbeams and get sent a few feet into a wall. Either humans are strong as all hell in pokemon, or pokemon are weak af.
      And if people are just durable, then there is no way to compare our reality, or Diddy's, or Pokemon's to one another because the fabric in which they are built on isn't the same.

    • @Rablat333
      @Rablat333 3 роки тому

      @@Cascade92 except they give other characters way more leeway than what they have to Pokémon.
      Pacman got lasers and elemental effects from spin offs, Fox got his multi-player only weapons(Which even they agreed was too far), Mega Man wasn't limited to 8 abilities, and Marth got to use weapons he usually shouldn't be able too. They give everyone the same amount of leeway.
      Just because they sometimes behave differently, doesn't mean that's how weak or strong they are. Do you really think Pikachu zaps Ash with the same amount of power he used to destroy the rock formation? You can't dismiss a characters strength because of comedic moments or because "hur dur this one time this thing happened that was never brought up again"
      And that's the thing about VS debating. Yeah, they're very different. Which is why the only way we can compare them is using a ground both can be compared too, which is real world logic.
      Is it weird how people can get hit by a hyper beam and live? Sure. But that's just how it is in that reality. I wouldn't say it's any weirder than a gorilla being able to cause earthquakes, a ball of pink mass hitting a meteor 999 light yards away, or a hedgehog going light speed. But these universes being so different is why we compare them, and why we need to compare them to real world scenarios to see who's stronger.

  • @JavaSmash942
    @JavaSmash942 3 роки тому +1

    I liked the Ninjago reference, Ninjago battle royale one day?

  • @padriazozzriaorizifian8672
    @padriazozzriaorizifian8672 3 місяці тому

    As soon as I saw that Greninja could steal items I knew that's the key to victory

  • @DJBurns-jq8mn
    @DJBurns-jq8mn 3 роки тому +1

    Oh, the next match is going to be interesting. Steve and Alex are basically evenly matched.

    • @Mac1081
      @Mac1081 3 роки тому

      The next match is wario vs lucas

    • @DJBurns-jq8mn
      @DJBurns-jq8mn 3 роки тому

      @@Mac1081 ok

  • @weerrpp
    @weerrpp 3 роки тому +5

    I think Greninja cheated with the potion because it's in DIDDY'S ARSENAL

    • @molonjamesbert4796
      @molonjamesbert4796 3 роки тому +1

      Greninja used Thief tho which is a move that allows its user to steal and use their opponent's tools and items.

    • @weerrpp
      @weerrpp 3 роки тому +3

      @@molonjamesbert4796 Good point but I have a counter. Greninja is the frog pokemon yes? Well I'll have you know that the only frog that can eat bananas is a carpet frog which I doubt is Greninja because then his skin would be thick and have many small bumps. The potion is made of GOLDEN BANANAS which is a stretch to be edible even by a carpet frog

    • @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569
      @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 2 роки тому +1

      Greninga cheated because he cannot use the stealing ability if he already have an object and he already had one.

    • @weerrpp
      @weerrpp 2 роки тому +1

      @@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 Your right!

    • @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569
      @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 2 роки тому +1

      @Groudon There was also no proof of Greninga being able to use the Banana Potion because he has never used anything even remotely similar. They are just biased towards Pokémon and Zelda.

  • @espurrman55real
    @espurrman55real Рік тому

    great, now we need fox vs greninja, 20XX vs 50XX, The ultimate showdown

  • @Oretizm
    @Oretizm 3 роки тому +3

    Why didn’t diddy just run at greninja when he was invincible?

  • @villager9874
    @villager9874 3 роки тому +1

    The winner of the next fight gets to fight me

    • @jaxonjaxon1069
      @jaxonjaxon1069 3 роки тому

      doesn’t matter because any of them could murder you in cold blood 👍

    • @Retirementsoon
      @Retirementsoon 3 роки тому

      It's Minecraft free for all

  • @spiritbaki108
    @spiritbaki108 Рік тому

    Correction: the boat feat is incorrect, the thing that destroys the boats is the drum thingy, although it is still unclear if its with diddys strength or because of the thing itself, I think both

  • @ShayZelle96
    @ShayZelle96 3 роки тому

    Not as excited for the minecraft battle royale as the others but I really don't like minecraft so... eh. Either way this series is super fun to watch and I binged it all today, really liked it. Can't wait until the new year's rematch and ironically subtly hope the winner stays the same even though I'm a bigger sonic fan.

  • @andrewandrews8073
    @andrewandrews8073 3 роки тому +1

    I haven't finished the episode, I just got to the end of the Greninja segment and I gotta wonder. Greninja's ability Protean didn't get discussed and it was a huge part in letting Greninja break into the pokemon meta. I hope it was considered. Now back to the episode

    • @SmashBracket
      @SmashBracket  3 роки тому +4

      We considered it, but Battle Bond turned out to be the more relevant ability to get access to better feats

    • @andrewandrews8073
      @andrewandrews8073 3 роки тому +3

      @@SmashBracket I just finished the episode! It was great 👍

  • @SmashingPichu
    @SmashingPichu 3 роки тому +8

    Diddy can take a lot of damage from things like getting shot out of a barrel and crashing through a rock, but if he bumps into a crocodile he gets hurt. My theory is that Diddy is immune to blunt force, but weak to sharper objects, which is a terrible weakness against Greninja.

    • @grapely5131
      @grapely5131 2 роки тому +6

      Umm no, that’s simply a game mechanic. For example, Mario survives a super nova in a cutscene, but in gameplay he dies from koopas and such. The reason that happens is that without being able to die in a game, it shows no challenge

  • @marcusgrant9234
    @marcusgrant9234 3 роки тому +1

    Hmm a Minecraft battle royale now we're talking

  • @endergeo116
    @endergeo116 3 роки тому

    Also loved the Lloyd Garmedon reference XD

  • @skyltie
    @skyltie 3 роки тому

    Other fights finish with brutal deaths, but this one ends with a *bonk*

    • @jaxonjaxon1069
      @jaxonjaxon1069 3 роки тому

      Thats what we call “Near-Accurate Representation of characters!” In all seriousness i’m glad this rule is in place. A lot of characters in smash bros are shown as Light-Hearted Pacifist’s And With the other series Super Smackdown having the Likes of Master Oogway, Steven Universe and Batman i think the Accurate Character Representation train will continue.

  • @Shrvmpy
    @Shrvmpy 2 роки тому

    and taking into account that this is with the help of a trainer, greninja could have protean which makes all of his moves do 50% more damage and change his type, or battle bond which significantly boosts his stats

  • @crimsonstormsurge
    @crimsonstormsurge 3 роки тому

    Seriously no battle bond man that’s unfortunate was looking forward to that but I’m sure the battle will still be epic

  • @eevv2229
    @eevv2229 3 роки тому

    Ninja Kermit VS Monke! sounds like fun!

  • @MarioandSonicsupergamer
    @MarioandSonicsupergamer 3 роки тому +2

    I wished Diddy Kong won, but still a very good fight animation. Hope the alternate ending comes soon, and at least I finally get to see him in a vs animation.

    • @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569
      @wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 2 роки тому

      Diddy King should have won but you really shouldn’t take this to seriously as they just choose who is their favorite character and make him win. They even said that Kirby vs Jigglypuff was “an incredibly close fight” which is just stupid.

    • @MarioandSonicsupergamer
      @MarioandSonicsupergamer 2 роки тому

      @@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 yeah I shouldn't take this seriously. Plus they do alternate endings, which they've did that with Diddy Kong vs Greninja. So it's not like these outcomes bother me.

    • @CARTER_IS_CUTE
      @CARTER_IS_CUTE 2 роки тому

      They said it was a close fight because Jigglypuff could poison or cofuse Kirby.

    • @MarioandSonicsupergamer
      @MarioandSonicsupergamer 2 роки тому

      @@CARTER_IS_CUTE well that's mainly because they don't do power scaling in their rules.

    • @CARTER_IS_CUTE
      @CARTER_IS_CUTE 2 роки тому

      But they do?

  • @darkdee2728
    @darkdee2728 3 роки тому

    This was a great episode. It doesn't stack up to Pikachu vs Pac Man but it isn't bad whatsoever. Next time though, is my most anticipated fight. Due to it's potential alone.

  • @michaelwilson4289
    @michaelwilson4289 3 роки тому +1

    the pokemon in this series are overpowered considering canon says a pokemon can only remember four moves at a time.

    • @davidgoldammer348
      @davidgoldammer348 3 роки тому

      Thats just a game mechanic. Sometimes in the anime this rule is broken. and also in the entirety of the manga, this rule doesn't exist

    • @michaelwilson4289
      @michaelwilson4289 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidgoldammer348 Good to know that the anime and manga come first in the canon of a video game franchise. I wonder why the games exist at all?

    • @davidgoldammer348
      @davidgoldammer348 3 роки тому

      @@michaelwilson4289 we wanted to composite them. and it has been shown to be a game mechanic. So we use more than four moves.

    • @michaelwilson4289
      @michaelwilson4289 3 роки тому

      @@davidgoldammer348 it says in the games a pokemon can only remember four moves, this is taught at trainer schools in the games the same way a trainer can only carry six pokemon is taught. You are violating canon, plain and simple.

    • @pksprite6401
      @pksprite6401 3 роки тому

      @@davidgoldammer348 plus he’s not using the anime or tv shows for any characters other than the Pokémon. It makes no sense

  • @Larsvvv
    @Larsvvv 3 роки тому

    next battle looks good, my favorite 4 characters!!! also will just 1 person move on to the next round? and is it even a smash bracket S1 battle?

  • @manperson2347
    @manperson2347 3 роки тому +1

    Gotta put my bets on Steve. Beats Zombies and Endermen in game and has more experience than Alex. Im guessing he'll have to finish it off with something old school to catch Alex off guard.