Old, not obsolete - The Cooler Master HAF XB Evo LAN Box - a PC case review
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2021
- I was looking for an affordable PC case that could serve as my test bench. I really wanted the Primo Chill Praxis Wet Bench or Open Bench from Streacom, but they are both a bit too expensive for me right now and their open nature is a liability because of my cats. Did I find a good balance with the Cooler Master HAF XB Evo LAN Box? Watch to find out.
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I have owned this case (window top panel) since 2013. Been through 3 builds and 4th build is coming up soon. This case is built like a tank. My great-grandchildren could probably have this case as an inheritance.
I also have had it since 2013 and none of the tabs have broken off. The still feel as strong today as they did 10 years ago in my old I7 3770k build lol.
I‘ve bought it in 2015 for a really great price used with a 3770k too, replaced the whole insides after the i7 died and run a 3080 in it which fits just flush in it if you know where to go in/out.
Im just watching this videothat I don’t have to measure those front fans because the right one doesn’t spin anymore :)
Same, I bought one of these and loved it... Many pc builds have sat in this box for burn ins. Loved it!!! Still have it :)
The switches on mine had worn out and had to buy those auxiliary power buttons. The SATA sockets on the hot swap HDD bays had become brittle due to its proximity to the power supply. Unfortunately replacements are hard to come by.
This is the best case ever built, period. No other case comes close to the ruggedness, build quality and airflow that this case offers in this form factor. Still using it 9 years later and no glass to worry about breaking.
Maybe not the best case ever but it's the only ATX case like it and no GPU bracket is needed. The Couger Panzer Max is the tower based equivalent to it.
@@canadianwildlifeservice8883 the couger panzer and this are both the finalists for my new case, and it's a close race but I think I'm going with this puppy
@@Joesolo13 The panzer does seem like a really nice case, except for the fan controller on the front panel that seems useless given that most motherboards have more than enough fan headers these days. Also the caveat of not being able to use the front fan on top of there is a dvd drive installed*.
@@Joesolo13 you won't regret it, also no GPU bracket is required. Upright CPU cooler means even pressure on the CPU IHS and socket.
I've owned one for a decade! I'm on my 3rd build inside this great case. I don't think I'll every get rid of this one. Actually got this one as an open box in perfect condition for $60. Best $60 I've ever spent on a computer part.
I've had this case for about 10 years and it has been excellent.
I've owned dozens of PC cases over the years and the HAF is the one I love the most. It's my current case and have no intentions of changing anytime soon.
Love seeing all these posts with love for this case.
@@MiddleofKnowhere Is it "ok" to place two powered on cases on top of each other? I'd like to save some control room space, but wondering if it could be dangerous/harmful for the computers to do so.
I'm going to buy it. It is the only case I can find which has carry handlers. I need that since I bring my pc a lot to friends. This will be perfect.
get some airflow between PSU and the MBA/cpu socket for your MBA's sake
@@auwei Been using a Kühler water block & radiator for close to 10 years, never crossed my mind and never had a problem, but looking at it right now, can see how that could be an issue for some folks ;)
I love The Cooler Master HAF XB Evo LAN Box. I built my first with this in 2012 and have rebuilt three times since then and the case is still my favorite part. Love that the motherboard tray is removable. and that the the sides come off, makes installing and cable management so easy and clean.
I have one of these and can attest they frickin rock! Airflow is killer!!!!!! Shape is even cooler.
im looking at this case now for my my server unit in 2023! it fits the exact dimension i need and has 4 drive bays which is perfect for my raid 10 setup. my aim is to consolidate 2 different boxes i have, a dedicated HHD enclosure and mid tower PC case into one. so while this is a bigger beefy case it will actually reduce my current setup footprint by putting everything together. This size will fit right onto one of my server rack trays as well! i think im going to get it!
This used to be my daily driver for my gaming pc's, been thinking about getting another one. Who needs RGB when you have this monster :D
It’s a beast isn’t it? Really wish cooler master made a 2.0 version for modern times.
had this case since 2016 and I love it. the size and chonkyness of it just makes me so happy
That’s awesome. I keep getting positive comments on this vid. Me thinks @CoolerMaster needs to update this case slightly to modern standards.
@@MiddleofKnowheretotally! There’s a real market for models like these!
Best case I've owned; I don't see myself getting another case ever, no matter what I upgrade the insides to.
Easily enjoyable, informative, lack of solicitation, very detailed source info, smooth editing and the most clever name around! Keep up the great work man! Happy to be lost in the middle of knowhere.
Thank you so much!
Just bought one thanks for the brilliant breakdown/review of this case and all the helpful comments.
This case has probably the best airflow using it aircooled, since it have room for 200mm fan on top and considering heat tends to go up it exhales all the heat up. I would like to see this case in some heat benchmarks comparing to the best cases currently, it will probably figure on top.
I've owned this case (with top screen and NZXT top fan) for almost 6 yrs. Air-flow is excellent. Used AIO graphics card & CPU coolers. This DOES require a bit of desk space. It's a test bench size case. Go the the Coolermaster website to double check dimensions, as the new 4080/4090's may be tight lengthwise (mine has about 338mm space). My 7900 xtx fits fine though. Also, the bottom mount PSU area is behind the hot swap bays...I had to extend the retaining plate out 80mm (using extended fan screws) to accommodate my EVGA 1600w PSU-but it still worked. All the newer PSU's fit with no issue. I really like the 2 level design. You can even access the internal HDD bays without issue.
The hot swap bays...👍👍 Very easy to get into this case for cleaning.
Very well built, nothing has broken. The nice thing is, with the new graphics cards being so heavy, they're sitting vertical!
Just hit the buy button after watching this video. Simple, nice audio, well explained. This will be my testbench for some proxmox and cheap china x99 boards. Actually, got 2 of these, as I am going to paint one to fit as a gaming rig to my living room.
That is awesome!
When I built my new computer I bought this as a secondary case to house my old parts. It currently sits in the corner of my room right now, but I've been finding myself tempted to transplant my new build into it. Such a unique design.
thorough & clear review, never thought of using a case like this as a test bench but it's certainly built to take the abuse
I'm such a sucker for PC cases like these. I just like the cube-like form factor.
I definitely like these, not the norm, cases.
Just ordered one of these to do my first build. Pretty excited.
In-depth review with lots of useful tidbits. Hope your channel becomes more popular since you clearly deserve it.
Thank you so much. :)
Great review, I just bought this case based on your feedback after shopping around a bit. Thanks. I don't need it as a test bench but rather for moving my VR PC from one room of my house to another when I want to VR. This seems like a great portable option for that.
Glad I could help! Hope you really like it. Just be aware of the case footprint as it's a tad bulky compared to your standard midtower; although, shorter. :) I really do like it and hope Cooler Master updates it.
I have had this case for a number of years and still use it to this day. infact I have just done an upgrade and fitted an Arctic Freezer 280MM CLC in the front. The fans fit in place of the stock fans and the rad sits behind in the main area. Yes it reduces the space for a GPU to a degree but there are plenty of smaller powerful cards these days that dont require a triple fan setup on the GPU.
Nice review.
I think one of the reasons it's aged well it's because of the PSU space you get, 290mm is great space wise.
I also like that the side panels aren't acrylic as you can literally look at that stuff, and it'll scratch.
I very much wanna get one now, but I'm unsure on availability in the UK
Amazon my friend.
Nice to see the price come down. It was about $250 last time I looked. This is the case I want to put my system in. May pick one up shortly
Thanks for this helpful video! I’ve been looking for unique cases with certain features and I think this one ticks about all the boxes for me. This will definitely be my next computer case.
Thanks and I'm glad this was helpful! Have fun with this case!
Just picked one of these up the other day. I was wanting one when I did a build in 2017 but I’ve regretted it ever since. Biggest reason why I wanted this is to prevent GPU sag. My 1080Ti is sagging hard these days and I want to prevent that going forward considering how HUGE GPUs are now.
I’ve got 2 HDDs and 2 SSDs so the size of the case is a high desire to preserve my data.
I'm doing my third build and wanted something different and saw this case while browsing. I was really interested and this video helped sell me on it. Thanks for the great vid!
You're very welcome! Have fun with your next build. :)
This case has the added benefit of being an Anti theft case! There is holes at the bottom of the case 8 of em 4 on each side. I Bolted my build down with 8 bolts to my table. I live in a basement with a window on the grass floor! Great for keeping hands off your build. If they want it they gonna have to bring a lunch.
You really covered everything. Great review. I enjoyed it.
Thank you very much. :)
Thank you for the useful review! I still think this case worth its money in 2023.
Great review Seth. I just bought this. Great box.
Thank you! Enjoy that case!
Very nice video , well done . Crisp , informative and understandable
Glad it was helpful! Thank you
I started building with this case a while back, and there's one accessory that is absolutely perfect for it, the ECR 501 Mighty Charger made by Enermax. Aside from all the USB ports and card readers you'll ever need, you can mount 3 hard drives to it meaning you actually gain some storage capacity over the OEM drive bay. With an optical drive in the other 5.25" bay, you now have all your multimedia needs taken care of.
Nice review, I was looking at this as a lan party box because of the handles.
I've got one and I love it. I agree that the filter access should be much easier. I am in the process of gathering the parts for a new system so I have time to tinker with it. I am figuring out the best way to put filters on all the fans because I am having them all draw air into the case and will let the air find its own way out through the basement area. I have two 140's, one 120 and one 200 for the case, and I have to figure something out for the bottom because I've cut out the space for the two 80's and mounted an 8 drive raid array cage there. I love its size and its look and the options it gives me. I have seen that this case will even fit a 3090 gpu without any surgery, so I'm very confident that this case can swallow up anything I would ever need or want to stuff in it. It's called a HAF, High Air Flow, so CM's intent was just that. I don't see a good reason for water cooling in this case, so for me, none of that is a concern. I think this case is timeless, so I don't understand how CM decided to discontinue it, especially considering how popular it is even today! Good video. Thanks.
Great review. I'm looking to build a mini NAS server and the case caught my eye for its cooling, the included hot-swap bays, cube shape, and helpful handles.
I understood it was ATX-sized going into this, but now watching you install the components is giving me some second thoughts now as far as its footprint goes. Something smaller that I can tuck under my arm would be great, but I haven't had much luck in that department when including my desired 5.25 bays.
Ah well, guess the search continues. Keep up the content, it's the first video of yours I've seen but I like the laid-back nature. I've gotten pretty used to watching jays2cents, linustechtips, gamers nexus, etc, all of whom seem infinitely smart and more professional.
Silverstone has some good small form factor cases that might fit the bill but not sure about 5.25 bays.
Thanks for the view and compliment. Maybe one day I’ll reach the production quality level of the other guys when I can have this be my full time job. :) it’s a dream and goal.
Great review. No fluff or jibber jabber. Definitely helped in my decision making.
Glad I could help!
While I really like your content, as it is very insightful, I love your intros even more. Keep up the great work! Thank you!
Thanks!
Mid 2024 and I'm picking one up for $40 CAD... Love the look and functionality of this case for some reason. Great Review btw!
Thank you and great find! I really wanna check out the new BeQuiet! Light Base 900. You can lay it flat so it's horizontal and almost seems to be the modern child of this CM case.
@@MiddleofKnowhere Wow, just saw some pics of the Light Base 900. It looks incredible! So if history repeats itself, I will be looking forward to buying this in 2037
! I've always liked Be Quiet and have had many of their case fans and PSU's in my past builds. Thanks for the reply and I just subscribed!
Nice review. I've had the HAF XB Evo mesh case for many years. The biggest issue i have is room for additional radiators for a water cooling loop. I managed to fit a 280 EVGA AIO CLC CPU cooler on the front. I'd like to do a loop with it and feel like the sides are the best spot for the additional radiators. If Coolermaster moved the handles on the sides to the bottom instead of the top then you might be able to fit a 280mm radiator on the GPU side of the motherboard. They could add the mesh stuff like you said in your review. Great overall recommendations fingers crossed they do a revised HAF XB :)
I'm selling my 10 year old case, it was a great platform for building. Built like a tank!
great video, man. thank you for this.
Good video, I just recently got interested in getting one of these cases. Sad to see they now cost 20% more than when you made your video less than a year ago.
Oof. Inflation is real!
This case is addiction
Cooler Master really should make an updated version of this case.
I agree!
I've also had this case for a little over 10 years and I like it so much I'm about to get another one for my next build. I just haven't found anything close. I also like horizontal motherboards for the support of graphics cars - especially as nuts as graphics cards are getting these days!
I have had this pc case for a couple of years now and it's the best case that I could possibly want. It is so versatile allowing for different setups. My pc runs very quiet and very cool. It is also very hefty. One addition I have is that in the hard drive rack, you can fit 2x 3.5" hard drives, Or like my setup, I have One hard drive on the bottom and 2x 2.5" SSDs installed on the adapter. The 2.5" adapter can hold Two SSDs. One facing the top and uderneath you can screw in another one up side down. You may be able to have enough room on the bottom to set an additional SSD. I haven't tried it, but it my be possible. Not suggested if you use the case for mobile use.
Great review, thank you! I‘ve been looking around to find a small ATX case to stick my current build (Skylake on an ATX board) into to use a server, while having a small footprint. Wanted to load throw some Noctua fans in there and just keep it silent. The front drive access points look like a future project waiting to happen! I think this is just what I was looking for, and the look itself is cool too! I don’t need significant cooling, so now to decide if I should top mount a 200mm fan, or get the window and show off those brown fans…
Edit: just kidding you can’t find this thing anywhere in 2024
DANG! I hope you find it soon. Keep an eye on eBay.
thanks for the review, I'm thinking about doing a 13th gen Intel build, and I was looking for a case that still has a 51/4 slow for optical drive. I came across this and think it will be a good fit for me.
Probably going to grab one of these for my HTPC upgrade. I need optical drive bays since I have a lot of imported blu-rays that can't be played on domestic players. Not many cases still have external drive bays anymore. I'm also upgrading it to play more games. Playing games on a 119" screen in 4K HDR is just too much fun!!! :D
Thanks for the review, great job ion the video.
Thanks for watching! Enjoy your HTPC Upgrade!!! ;)
great, unique case. i wish there was more in this form factor
Me too. I really could see a redesign of this case with some modern features possibly slimmed down in certain areas dimensionally without losing support.
I still think this is the best computer case ever made, period. I chose a corsair carbide air 540 white case since it looked a bit more modern than this cooler master. It has the same exact features in a vertical design, but I was very close to buying this one. If I build a new gaming PC in 10-20 years from now, I'll be choosing this cooler master case to build it 👍
Just ordered the case for a new build with my collection of old parts
Got this in 2022, and boy, is it huge? I haven't assembled it yet, but it feels very sturdy and well-built. 2 things I didn't like though - the 3.5 inch hot-swap bays are fully plastic and feel quite cheap compared to the rest of the package; and there are gaps inside the case between the internal HDD rack and 5.25in bays, which could have been used much better with a better design of the internal HDD rack. The size is not easy to fit under a table, and takes quite a bit of floor space (compared to regular cabinets). But I am in love with the overall build quality.
I just got one of these for Christmas and I love it. I officially hate window cases. This puppy is cool.
Glad you like it! :)
Thanks for the review I am working on my first build and wanted something practical instead of flashy lights and suffocating cases like so many pre builds I see these days
Thanks! I'm glad the video was helpful to you. I really like the case and hope it gets a modern revision someday.
The case features a few metal punchout holes on the rear for watercooling in and out to a reservoir or external radiator.
I still own this HAF XB mid tower case until now over 10 year
I like this formfactor case. Allows video card for horizontal install. With this days beefy cards, fix the sagging issue. However, watching your review, I see the case feels already a bit outdated. Thanks for the video!
You're welcome! Glad you liked it. Yeah it's definitely getting long in the tooth. Would love to see CoolerMaster do an update already. :) Thank you for watching!
I have two of these and love them. Price just dropped on Amazon back to $105.99.
Nice review, I love this case!
In the future if want to go water, I would place the radiator in the top.
Just need to remove the top grille and 3D print some replacement, can go more bold
with an external custom water kit and place it into another room for ultimate silence.
Search for the words "external water cooling dock".
Ooh that's a good Idea. I've been seeing more people do external rads. You could set up a pretty cool rad and pump/res combo externally with some soft tubes leading into the case then hardline the gpu/cpu or stick to an all soft tube build. I'll def. look it up.
I've been using a HAF X for 12 years now, which I initially got to run a stack of HDDs. Not so now, and have decided it's time for a change -- if this was updated for USB-c it would probably be a perfect replacement.
I’d love a new version. One with a mobo tray that can come out. Would be pretty cool.
@MiddleofKnowhere Imagine a clean white option with front USB-C and a stack of removable 2.5 trays.
Still have 2 in use. Actually bought them because they fit in a nook enclosure in my den (read: computer room) as a "regular case would be on the floor or on my table so being in the nook clears up a lot of space. One's my editing rig and the second is my streaming/general use computer.
And I blocked off the vented side panels with thin pvc cut to size. No effects on thermals whatsoever.
I think this is the perfect case for a home server. Consumer motherboards only have 4 sata ports now so you can set up a 3 drive raid 5 set up with a 5.25 bay adapter, and have one 5.25 drive bay, for ripping movies. It has enough air flow to set your fans to a low and have a quiet system. Also you can get magnetic air filters for the case for about 30 USD. Personally I like the look of the haf line but, if the case sits in a closet or a basement looks don't mater.
It’s definitely a tanky looking case.
This video was useful, I was looking at a replacement case for my home plex/file server. I have 3x 16TB IronWolf drives, 2x Quadro GPU's in SLi and a 12th gen i7 and was planning on throwing an AIO cooler and all Noctua fans in one of these. This case should fit the bill.
Glad it was of use to you!
I have the original HAF XB and it's an awesome case
Holy F, that thing is huge!
the airflow is so excellent that it makes a very strong choice for those looking to buy quiet fans and run them at low RPM and win the lower noise use case.
Yeah I really like it. The footprint is a bit large, but overall it’s just a fun and good case. Really hope an update happens some day.
I'm using this case since 2014, I love its heaviness (thanks to thick metal plates), so it's quite not possible to have any vibrations.
Using the top mesh as an active exhaust dropped my GPU temps by a measurable margin. Gave me 2-3 extra megahashes back when ethereum mining was feasible
That’s awesome. Yeah I figured it might help pull air through the gpu heatsink.
Front panel tabs on mine has not given up yet. I have the case for 10 years now purposely bought to counter the 7970 matrix plat sag. I love the case it has served and still serving me well. The look just looks outdated and old but fits well as I am also old ahuhuhu.
You do great videos.. ✋
Thank you! You do too. I’ve learned quite a bit from you. :)
I regret selling mine. I should've just kept it. I'm tempted to buy another one to put my new build in.
If only companies rediscovered 200mm side panel fans
I’m still kicking myself in the ass for passing up a Lian li test bench a few years back. I didn’t really know I’d be averaging two builds a month back then though.
There is a well used Xb for $50, I’m currently using my personal favorite case as a test bench, which I can’t keep using simply due to size. It’s the Corsair Graphite 600t and that is one thicc B
I love this form factor but the case looks like a grandma's "home theater". I hope they refresh this case
Me too!
It is not particularly beautiful, but it is super functional and its accessibility is perfect in my eyes.
This is my third configuration in this same case, for + 10 years ... and the next will still be in the same case!
(Unless Cooler Master takes out a successor of the same format)
PS: liquid cooler AIO 240mm fit perfect.
Thanks for sharing! That’s awesome to hear.
Its funny I was looking into making my own case and had the design made up, but the price of metal is insane right now so I went back to looking at built cases and this thing is almost exactly what I had designed. But I was sad to see that it doesnt support E-ATX without hacking it up
Hilarious. I was actually looking for a replacement HTPC gaming case for my MSI Radeon 6800 Gaming X Trio, because it's so f*&ing long, and the graphics card you used to demonstrate is an MSI GTX 3070 Gaming X Trio, so the identical card form factor to mine. Now I KNOW it will fit! Thanks! Even funnier is you're using exactly the same motherboard that I just bought, before I even saw this video! Asus TUF Gaming B550 -Plus. Great minds think alike, I suppose, but next time, buy a Radeon. :)
That's awesome! lol
I have this same case. Have had it since 2015. I have also rebuilt the internals 2x. It presently runs an AMD ATX mb, Ryzen 7, 32Gb RAM with 4 SSD's ranging from 250Gb to 1Tb. This last build is currently in use by my kids. I still like the case, but I am thinking I may go to the Lian Li 011 dynamic mini since it is slightly smaller, and I work in different locations as a consultant and I want something more portable but not a laptop for the extra GPU's. Oh the choices these days...
I really like the Mini. Also check out the Cooler Master NR200. It's a small form factor case too that's pretty cool. I think there might even be a v2 out now.
My only complaint about this case is that the 200mm upper fan will not fit with my noctua nh-u12a. Seems to only be viable if you're water cooling or using a 92mm air cooler. Which, in a situation that requires a high airflow case, seems counterproductive. That said, it looks utilitarian/no RGB nonsense or glass to show off my glorious dust collection, has bays for my CD/DVD drives, and is fairly easy to lug around when needed. It's still my favorite.
I wonder if 200mm fan would still fit while running a Noctua NH-D15 CPU cooler?
Can the PSU be reversed, facing the motherboard?
I want to use an B650i Aorus Ultra with an nvme cooled by the backplate and the PSU sucking the heat away.
Case reviews by a Bears fan checks many boxes for me.
Checked in a good way I hope. lol #BearDown my friend. :)
It would be nice if you would include inch measurements as well. It's a small thing, but it's nice to have. Good video.
I can do that. I just tend not to since most computer parts are in mm but I get it. We Americans will have a greeter point of reference if something is 9” I suppose. :)
Thanks for watching!
Thank you the great review.
I'm doing my 1st build in a few weeks. I was wondering if there are any other manufacturers that make cases similar to this. I love the vertical video card. I Google it and came up with nothing .. thank you.
Hi and thank you! Maybe check out Thermaltake and Silverstone for cases with horizontal mobo layouts. I'm not really certain of other brands that might do that, but I know they exist.
still using this case
just put a 7900xtx red devil in it last night
By the way the only case you can put a Mo-Ra3 420 on top (with little modding)
if i flip the case on it's side, i would have a thicker midi-tower. nice
Thanks for the review! glad to see the old model still holding up. Does anyone know if these are stackable?
Not that I know of, but you could certainly try. The way the top bulges out you may have issue, plus top airflow. If the feet provide enough depth you might be able to.
Great video, thanks!
I am thinking about using this case to house an A4000TX mobo which is a modern E-ATX version of an Amiga 4000 computer. The mobo should fit in there but i have to use expansion boards up to 33,719 cm (let's round to 34 cm to be safe). I have noticed Cooler Master says that max VGA board is 33,4 cm and you barely fit one a wee smaller than this. However, do you think the front fans could be removed to gain extra space for the expansion boards? Thanks for your valued opinion.
I think you could remove the fans and put them on the outside to get some more space. I think o ended up doing that.
@@MiddleofKnowhere Do you think that would be ok for 34 cm long boards?
That gaming x trip is 324 mm and there was barely any room for it. I’m unsure if a 34 cm will fit. Maybe with some modding if necessary.
I wish Cooler Master would update this case with more modern IO.
I like mine, except that the front audio introduces a lot of noise. It's either broken or terribly insulated.
That seems to be the opinion of a lot of case front audio and that it's a better bet to use the rear audio.
I have had this case as of 2020, and I love it. I just wish the top had other fan mounting points not just the 200mm fan and it is not slandered. I have been trying to find a good low speed fan for the top of the case.
You could probably make your own holes for a smaller fan somehow. The benefit of a 200mm fan is due to its size you can run it at low rpms so it won’t make a lot of noise.
@MiddleofKnowhere yes, I was thinking about that just doing that.
I have this case. It does the job as the name says. But it would be great if there is a miniature version of this case for m-atx motherboard without ODD.
That would be a cool little cube. That's a great idea actually. I love it!
Been thinking about getting this for a friend since it looks like it doesn't take up a lot of room at all.
Great video. Has anyone an idea of how to turn the front x-docks into normal 3.5 bays, to use them for other purposes than hard disks?
My only gripe with this case is that it needs an update with USB C and more I/O on the front.
best $50 I ever spent.