The map is very nice and much larger than I expected. For those that play jets only, I hope this video acts as inspiration to try out in warbirds in either IL-2 or DCS. The fundamentals you learn in WWII will always stay with you and apply to all. For IL-2, I would recommend the Finnish Server or Combat Box, for DCS I would recommend the No.20 WWII Server.
Can definitely attest to this. Started with the f18 in DCS and learned all the systems but didnt leanr amythijg about knife fights. Had to go to IL2 and slow it down a bit but once you have it in IL2, it translate very easily from props to jets
Well at least my poor efforts can be a lesson to others. I was the Tempest that you shot down first. I'm not sure why they didn't show up but I had a couple of 1000lb bombs so wasn't really flying cover as such. Ironically enough, my VR glitched out just before you started shooting which is why you see me wobbling about. My screen went blank next thing I was dead. I actually thought I collided with the guy to my left hence the "WTF happened?". I was a little relieved that I was shot down as there is nothing worse than crashing into a wingman.
All the planes merging over the channel around the same time reminds me of when IL-2 was just the Stalingrad expansion. Constant dogfights over Stalingrad city, very fun to patrol as a fighter, but very dangerous as an attacker or bomber.
@@Enigma89 me too. some late BoB/channel battles type scenarios should be possible. I just wish we had some more Allied medium bombers to support that type of gameplay
@@Enigma89 I'm thinking a B-25 or B-26 are the most likely. They've just added a bunch of new skins for the B-25, like a USAAF desert, USAAF olive drab/unpainted, and also two VVS skins. Maybe it could indicate some future plans?
All manouvers and your gunnery skill are great. 10/10. Only thing when you have engine damage and trying to reach base that is far go below 0.8 ata, manually open rads and keep temp to 80C. That will prolong life of your damage engine.. 😀👍
Thanks, I do feel bad because this channel started as an IL-2 channel but the game has been a bit fixed in position and I found myself playing DCS more. I still love warbirds so I will sprinkle these in when I play il2.
Nice landing, especially considering the oiled wind screen. Sent your way by Greg. Big fan of these sims, but I have to do a major rebuild on my PC before getting back in.
Really awesome triple kill at the start. Now buy an ultrawide monitor so I can enjoy these videos that much more until I can upgrade my own PC and get back into IL2
The big screens and uber high res actively make spotting harder. I go against the grain and already play in 2K, most people downgrade themselves to 1k to boost their spotting.
My biggest thing is that like you said, the il2 engine is a bit hamstrung, the maps really leave something to be desired as far as VFR flying is concerned. the newer DCS maps are a bit easier to learn various landmarks to really "know" where you are, where in il2 I always feel like I'm looking at generic city after generic city, placed on a generic tile and everything is just so "blah" and bland.
I'm the same. I dont seem to learn the maps in il2. It all looks the same. Good news is there should be more defining features here so should make it easier to navigate
I noticed that the cities along the coast had more custom looking ports so it made it easier. Navigating is a bit tricky in IL2 for the reasons you mentioned though, on long flights i typically will measure and time my own waypoints.
For multiplayer, DCS is great (though IL-2 has a lot more planes). For single-player warbirding, though, IL-2 is so much better that it's not even a contest.
This was really just to show that with some fundamentals and flying somewhat conservative then you can still do well. I am very rusty and made many mistakes here but with me feeling under the weather I did not make this super long and wanted to help get the word out that BoN launched
@@Enigma89 That was really smooth... I'm impressed.... Youre rusty.. I'm completely lost... one circele, two circle ... flat scissors , rolling scissors... I'm lost.... you have a gift
I started simming probably in the early 2000s but I took a break after 2012 for a while, I did not get back into flight sims until COVID hit. I use a VKB NXT and a Virpil throttle
The IL2 devs have mentioned that doing 4 engine bombers is not possible. There is only so much ai the game can handle in mp before it falls apart. For example getting a lot of moving ships in multiplayer is not easy while this was standard in '46. The UI is quite good in that game but you are so limited in the targets you can have in MP
Nice to see you back in a warbird (I’m only in WWII mode). Excellent sortie! I also tooled around a bit in the new map today and liked it but … why are there tank battle options in England? Maybe I misunderstood the map graphics??
Do you fly any DCS Warbirds? I just started and while ground attack and wrecking (and getting wrecked by) bomber formations is fun, I don't find fighter to fighter combat to be much fun (yet?) How does IL2 compare? I'm playing single player.
IL-2 is for a WWII experience. DCS Warbirds is for an experience for that specific plane. The modeling in DCS is impressive but because they focus so much on fidelity, they do not have a lot of planes modeled. I personally think IL-2 Is a great game and worth it and I have heard the single player content is great because of the campaign system they have. I do not play single player so I would maybe ask reddit as I am just not super familiar.
If you're wanting single player, go with IL-2. It has quick missions, advanced quick missions (which have a ton of different types of missions and the world is 'alive' so there are fighters, bombers, transports, and ground activity all doing their own thing, basically a One-Off Sand Box), pilot campaigns that can span the entire war, or just a few months, and then both official and community made missions and campaigns. I own both IL2 and DCS, and have the 109K4 in DCS with one of the paid campaigns. that is fun (other than AI issues) but otherwise, there's not much to 'do' in DCS WWII other than multiplayer, and as Enigma says, there's not a lot of planes, and the choices are kind of odd so I'm not sure how 'balanced' multiplayer is in DCS. And, finally, when you are ready for multiplayer, Combat Box and Finnish Virtual Pilots both offer great missions with an immersive AI ATC 'radio' on CB, and a dynamic war environment on FVP. There's a lot of videos out there to check out. Like you, I'm not to into PvP fighter action, but I do like to hop in a 110 or 410 and sneak off by myself and blow something up and then see if I can get away from whoever finds me!
@@Enigma89 thanks for your reply, your cold war videos influenced how I look at DCS even in single player... Went back in time to my cold war modules to work on fundamentals...but kept on going and landed on warbirds 😁
Getting serious about flying online. Been a simmer for a very long time but I’m pretty new to online combat. Got my first kill over the channel today. Where could I find a group of people that fly regularly?
I like your flying. When I say fire you are firing before I get the whole word out. Other people I watch fire after I get the whole word out and barely clip the tail or miss entirely. But you know deflection shooting pretty good. I will be watching all your prop clips, but I hate watching jet flying. Missiles are boring.
Thanks for sharing your POV, i appreciate it. I do think my gunnery is decent but if you want to see great Gunnery you should search for Krupinski's videos, his gunnery is on another level. I will try to make a balance between WWII and jets stuff. I think WWII stuff is really my main passion but with how slow the development of IL-2 GB is, it is hard to keep super interested in it as it feels a bit stale after a while. I will be doing some more IL-2 1946 videos though over time.
Is IL-2 worth buying BoS and Normandy as well, or would you recommend just getting Normandy direct as a standalone from the IL-2 site? Been in DCS for a couple weeks, have heard IL-2 is a better starting point progress quickly with learning flight maneuvering and tactics. Def want to play multiplayer, am curious if Normandy by itself would have enough people on servers
I would not recommend getting Normandy. For the price of Normandy you can get all of the other packs at sale. This video covers what you need to know ua-cam.com/video/LB2StWjR0o0/v-deo.html In general, IL-2 is well worth it at sales price, it is on sale very often.
@@Enigma89 thanks! The general consensus definitely seems to be to wait til it’s on sale. Definitely going to find a good ww2 dcs server in the interim
agree with your assessment of the IL2 engine. I haven't actually gotten Normandy myself as it simply wasn't worth it for me. IL2 is not only starting to look dated, it simply does look dated in comparison to other flightsims. The devs really need to update the visuals of the engine or switch to/create a new one, otherwise they simply won't be able to stay competitive in this incredibly niche market. Jason especially keeps telling people on the Forums that we should play DCS if we liked it better, and that some point, if IL2 stays on the same course as it has in the recent years, I'm afraid that is simply what people will do.
For the past few days I came back to IL-2 multiplayer and the HUGE issue is still there. Spotting in this game is absolute DOGSHIT. Especially against the ground. I'm looking at the enemy plane that is flying low and then poof it's like it disappeared. I just can't see it anymore. I've tried everything. I've switched to 720p resolution yesterday and it helps quite a bit against targets up in the sky that are far away but it doesn't help at all with the ground blending issue. I'm not giving this game another go until I hear that they've tackled this issue.
Using blurred ground textures and changing the gamma to 0.7 really helps with this. You need to make a bigger contrast between the planes vs the ground. Spotting leaves a lot to be desired that for sure.
The map is very nice and much larger than I expected. For those that play jets only, I hope this video acts as inspiration to try out in warbirds in either IL-2 or DCS. The fundamentals you learn in WWII will always stay with you and apply to all. For IL-2, I would recommend the Finnish Server or Combat Box, for DCS I would recommend the No.20 WWII Server.
agree, the best map in the serie so far, both quality and atmosphere.
Can definitely attest to this. Started with the f18 in DCS and learned all the systems but didnt leanr amythijg about knife fights.
Had to go to IL2 and slow it down a bit but once you have it in IL2, it translate very easily from props to jets
Well at least my poor efforts can be a lesson to others. I was the Tempest that you shot down first. I'm not sure why they didn't show up but I had a couple of 1000lb bombs so wasn't really flying cover as such. Ironically enough, my VR glitched out just before you started shooting which is why you see me wobbling about. My screen went blank next thing I was dead. I actually thought I collided with the guy to my left hence the "WTF happened?". I was a little relieved that I was shot down as there is nothing worse than crashing into a wingman.
All the planes merging over the channel around the same time reminds me of when IL-2 was just the Stalingrad expansion. Constant dogfights over Stalingrad city, very fun to patrol as a fighter, but very dangerous as an attacker or bomber.
I am really curious to see what the servers do with this map, has a lot of potetnial
@@Enigma89 me too. some late BoB/channel battles type scenarios should be possible. I just wish we had some more Allied medium bombers to support that type of gameplay
@@milopugdog yeah for real. I was actually wondering to myself how great it would be to have massive formations of B-26s or B-17s.
@@Enigma89 I'm thinking a B-25 or B-26 are the most likely. They've just added a bunch of new skins for the B-25, like a USAAF desert, USAAF olive drab/unpainted, and also two VVS skins. Maybe it could indicate some future plans?
@@Enigma89 definitly need B17s or B24s
All manouvers and your gunnery skill are great. 10/10. Only thing when you have engine damage and trying to reach base that is far go below 0.8 ata, manually open rads and keep temp to 80C. That will prolong life of your damage engine.. 😀👍
Well shit, I need to get busy skinning Operation Overlord skins.
i was the second p-38 you shot down haha, good job Enigma!
Hey, I was actually happy to see you guys doing CAS on a pop up mission so good on ya.
So nice to see you back on IL-2, I really like your instructional videos.
Thanks, I do feel bad because this channel started as an IL-2 channel but the game has been a bit fixed in position and I found myself playing DCS more. I still love warbirds so I will sprinkle these in when I play il2.
Great flight and analysis. More warbirds videos would be welcome!
Dude, awesome flying
Thanks!
Great job! I look forward to seeing more of your content, especially bomber missions.
Nice sortie! kick* ass flying
Did you mean kick ass, cuz that would be a whole different kind of comment. 😏
@@jcjammer8972 ty
Verry impressive sir! And an Ace in one sortie to! :)
Very nice sortie.
Nice landing, especially considering the oiled wind screen. Sent your way by Greg. Big fan of these sims, but I have to do a major rebuild on my PC before getting back in.
Thanks! Greg runs a great channel, glad you liked the video.
Great video
Great thanks you !!
Great flight and analysis.
Very good video + overall comments nice reversal!
Glad you enjoyed it
Seems the 30 mm deliver a lot more damage
Feels like it for sure
top notch!
Rusty or not, that was good. Head and shoulders better than some of the stuff I've seen posted recently.
Thank you for the kind words and for taking the time to leave ac omment
Great flying 😎👌
Thanks ✌
Yes, very inspiring...subscribed.👍
Welcome aboard!
Nice work! You said you're not using VR but your videos show you looking around a lot, what are you using to facilitate that?
TrackIR 5
Really awesome triple kill at the start. Now buy an ultrawide monitor so I can enjoy these videos that much more until I can upgrade my own PC and get back into IL2
The big screens and uber high res actively make spotting harder. I go against the grain and already play in 2K, most people downgrade themselves to 1k to boost their spotting.
Brilliant flying, rusty or not. Looking forward to trying out Normandy!
LMK what you think after you tried it
Good job mate S!
Ohh Nkelly nice to hear from you again. Let's chat soon on discord
@@Enigma89 No worries just trying to find the time seeing we on different time zones :(
Nice flying! Have you tried IL2 Clod Blitz/Tobruk ?
I tried to get back into that game but the UI makes it so hard to try to map stuff. If they redid the UI i would give it a real effort to hop into it
@@Enigma89 it has a kemap utility outside of the game, works well for most of what you need.
I completely expected that P-38 at 3:03 to crash into you on the way down
Wouldn't have been the first time, the splash damage can hit you from their eggs if they jettison them.
My biggest thing is that like you said, the il2 engine is a bit hamstrung, the maps really leave something to be desired as far as VFR flying is concerned. the newer DCS maps are a bit easier to learn various landmarks to really "know" where you are, where in il2 I always feel like I'm looking at generic city after generic city, placed on a generic tile and everything is just so "blah" and bland.
I'm the same. I dont seem to learn the maps in il2. It all looks the same. Good news is there should be more defining features here so should make it easier to navigate
I noticed that the cities along the coast had more custom looking ports so it made it easier. Navigating is a bit tricky in IL2 for the reasons you mentioned though, on long flights i typically will measure and time my own waypoints.
Man I need to find a better HOTAS that works for me better. A lot of players can just make everything look so smooth! Great Job!
What do you use ?
@@Enigma89 Logitech x52 pro…. I went cheap for my budget and didn’t want to wait for shipping time over sea. Kinda regret it now
@@Enigma89 I also don’t have as hard of a time on IL-2. It’s much harder for me on DCS
For multiplayer, DCS is great (though IL-2 has a lot more planes). For single-player warbirding, though, IL-2 is so much better that it's not even a contest.
Wow.... you are slick....
This was really just to show that with some fundamentals and flying somewhat conservative then you can still do well. I am very rusty and made many mistakes here but with me feeling under the weather I did not make this super long and wanted to help get the word out that BoN launched
@@Enigma89 That was really smooth... I'm impressed.... Youre rusty.. I'm completely lost... one circele, two circle ... flat scissors , rolling scissors... I'm lost.... you have a gift
You're a boss
hell yeah!! i love your videos and your style of them. how long have you been a sim pilot? what hotas system you fly?
I started simming probably in the early 2000s but I took a break after 2012 for a while, I did not get back into flight sims until COVID hit. I use a VKB NXT and a Virpil throttle
Im.looking forward to flying this map
It's like Kuban but better Rheinland texture quality
It's nice (useful) to hear your tactical commentary. BTW What do mean when you say that the IL2 engine feels hamstrung?
I would like to know aswell.
The IL2 devs have mentioned that doing 4 engine bombers is not possible. There is only so much ai the game can handle in mp before it falls apart. For example getting a lot of moving ships in multiplayer is not easy while this was standard in '46. The UI is quite good in that game but you are so limited in the targets you can have in MP
@@Enigma89 k, thanks for your reply.
Nice vid. I think after all these long years they should do something with the sound. Every machine gun sounds the same on every plane. Unacceptable
Nice to see you back in a warbird (I’m only in WWII mode). Excellent sortie! I also tooled around a bit in the new map today and liked it but … why are there tank battle options in England? Maybe I misunderstood the map graphics??
No idea about that, i was surprised how much of England was modeled
@@Enigma89 . Yep, kind of similar to DCS.
Do you fly any DCS Warbirds? I just started and while ground attack and wrecking (and getting wrecked by) bomber formations is fun, I don't find fighter to fighter combat to be much fun (yet?) How does IL2 compare? I'm playing single player.
IL-2 is for a WWII experience. DCS Warbirds is for an experience for that specific plane. The modeling in DCS is impressive but because they focus so much on fidelity, they do not have a lot of planes modeled. I personally think IL-2 Is a great game and worth it and I have heard the single player content is great because of the campaign system they have. I do not play single player so I would maybe ask reddit as I am just not super familiar.
If you're wanting single player, go with IL-2. It has quick missions, advanced quick missions (which have a ton of different types of missions and the world is 'alive' so there are fighters, bombers, transports, and ground activity all doing their own thing, basically a One-Off Sand Box), pilot campaigns that can span the entire war, or just a few months, and then both official and community made missions and campaigns. I own both IL2 and DCS, and have the 109K4 in DCS with one of the paid campaigns. that is fun (other than AI issues) but otherwise, there's not much to 'do' in DCS WWII other than multiplayer, and as Enigma says, there's not a lot of planes, and the choices are kind of odd so I'm not sure how 'balanced' multiplayer is in DCS. And, finally, when you are ready for multiplayer, Combat Box and Finnish Virtual Pilots both offer great missions with an immersive AI ATC 'radio' on CB, and a dynamic war environment on FVP. There's a lot of videos out there to check out. Like you, I'm not to into PvP fighter action, but I do like to hop in a 110 or 410 and sneak off by myself and blow something up and then see if I can get away from whoever finds me!
@@kamicosmos @enigma thanks for the detailed replies! I appreciate it!
@@Enigma89 thanks for your reply, your cold war videos influenced how I look at DCS even in single player... Went back in time to my cold war modules to work on fundamentals...but kept on going and landed on warbirds 😁
Getting serious about flying online. Been a simmer for a very long time but I’m pretty new to online combat. Got my first kill over the channel today. Where could I find a group of people that fly regularly?
I would recommend joining the Finnish or Combat Box discord and asking people and/or hopping into voice channels
I like your flying. When I say fire you are firing before I get the whole word out. Other people I watch fire after I get the whole word out and barely clip the tail or miss entirely. But you know deflection shooting pretty good. I will be watching all your prop clips, but I hate watching jet flying. Missiles are boring.
Thanks for sharing your POV, i appreciate it. I do think my gunnery is decent but if you want to see great Gunnery you should search for Krupinski's videos, his gunnery is on another level. I will try to make a balance between WWII and jets stuff. I think WWII stuff is really my main passion but with how slow the development of IL-2 GB is, it is hard to keep super interested in it as it feels a bit stale after a while. I will be doing some more IL-2 1946 videos though over time.
Is IL-2 worth buying BoS and Normandy as well, or would you recommend just getting Normandy direct as a standalone from the IL-2 site? Been in DCS for a couple weeks, have heard IL-2 is a better starting point progress quickly with learning flight maneuvering and tactics. Def want to play multiplayer, am curious if Normandy by itself would have enough people on servers
I would not recommend getting Normandy. For the price of Normandy you can get all of the other packs at sale. This video covers what you need to know ua-cam.com/video/LB2StWjR0o0/v-deo.html
In general, IL-2 is well worth it at sales price, it is on sale very often.
@@Enigma89 thanks! The general consensus definitely seems to be to wait til it’s on sale. Definitely going to find a good ww2 dcs server in the interim
What server was this filmed on?
Syndicate
agree with your assessment of the IL2 engine.
I haven't actually gotten Normandy myself as it simply wasn't worth it for me.
IL2 is not only starting to look dated, it simply does look dated in comparison to other flightsims.
The devs really need to update the visuals of the engine or switch to/create a new one,
otherwise they simply won't be able to stay competitive in this incredibly niche market.
Jason especially keeps telling people on the Forums that we should play DCS if we liked it better,
and that some point, if IL2 stays on the same course as it has in the recent years,
I'm afraid that is simply what people will do.
Which server was this on?
This was on the Syndicate server which I have never heard of before
Hehe, Idiotenrauen removed.
For the past few days I came back to IL-2 multiplayer and the HUGE issue is still there. Spotting in this game is absolute DOGSHIT. Especially against the ground. I'm looking at the enemy plane that is flying low and then poof it's like it disappeared. I just can't see it anymore. I've tried everything. I've switched to 720p resolution yesterday and it helps quite a bit against targets up in the sky that are far away but it doesn't help at all with the ground blending issue.
I'm not giving this game another go until I hear that they've tackled this issue.
Using blurred ground textures and changing the gamma to 0.7 really helps with this. You need to make a bigger contrast between the planes vs the ground. Spotting leaves a lot to be desired that for sure.
@@Enigma89 Thanks for the help. Unfortunately I'm already using all of that.
WOW! You are such a badass! You are progressing to the GS model...check out how good I am.
Many of the videos I have are me failing and pointing out things to take away.