RACE BOAT REFIT - Are our LAMINATE RACING SAILS GARBAGE?? | Ep. 39
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Our main sail is made of laminate cloth which is popular for race boats as it keeps its shape well and doesn't stretch. However the material doesn't have a long life. Our main sail is in pretty bad shape, and we try to reinforce it with hundreds of patches.
Unfortunately the condition of this sail is going to limit our future plans. We are on the look out for a second hand main sail from another boat, if you hear of anything, please get in touch!
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Caio! We are Timo and Jo, an Italian and English couple with countless ocean miles under our belts. We're refitting an ex Vendée Globe Open 60 race boat originally designed & built & raced by famous Hungarian sailor Nándor Fa. He competed in her in the 1992 Vendée Globe (round the world single handed race known as “the Everest of the seas”), finishing 5th, becoming the first non-frenchman to finish.
We are currently in Fiji giving this old gladiator a new lease on life, transforming her from an ex race boat to a performance family cruiser, which we'll need to make both dog and baby proof! We’re planning to set sail again in Oct 2022, so with limited time&money we have plenty of challenges ahead to turn our dreams into reality&get back on the water!
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YES you NEED a new sail. Come on you big sail makers ..make it happen for these nice guys. They have saved a yacht .and now need some help.
great to see you trying hard to get a few more miles out if the old sail. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers Alistair 🤞 something crops up :)
Yep they definitely need new sails, but good luck finding a sail maker who will somehow donate new sails as you suggest. Do you actually have any realistic idea what is the cost of new sails for a 60' boat?? Its huge, really huge, way beyond the means of most people, you'd need a mortgage just for a basic set.
I don't know what I love more about your channel; Watching that baby walk around, listening to Daddy or listening to Mommy's narration. I'll stick to enjoying the channel as a whole.
Cheers!
Haha what a lovely comment thank you!
He walks!! People say it goes so fast boy are they right. Laugh out load jokes in another language hats off. Great work guys looking forward to more.
Haha cheers Hedley yeah in the last video we made about sails he was just starting to crawl! Hope it all slows down a bit!!
It will be great to see this boat sailing again after all the hard work you two have done.
Cheers Ryan! 🍻
So very good to be seeing you! The boat looks fantastic and seeing Capitano Nemo walking, while you are repairing the sail, is wonderful.
Thank you for sharing and wishing you great good luck! 😁
Cheers Léon, gd to hear from you, yeah nemo is growing fast!!!
I just sailed on a VO65. They went aroud the world 5-6 times, and most of them used up 2-3 sets of sails. They seem to still have them...maybe you should ask them? they race, their old sails are no good for them. Team Jajo, Windwhisper, Ambersail,, Hyper, I Love Poland (those are VO70s, but similar) all had new sails. Their old sails can be used as delivery, but they had more than one. Also their class regulations say only one mainsail one the boat, so all the old ones sitting in the container.
Hey Balazs great idea we’ll try to contact some!!
That's the problem with boats of this size, replacing sails and especially a mast ( god forbid you should ever have that problem!!!) is staggeringly expensive. The hulls last for a very long time but the sails have a very finite life expectancy.
Very true!
gran lavoro! bravi
Grazie Eugenio
Love that Timo doesn't want to use the delivery sails until it's the absolute only last resort because it's too small and the boat will be slow and not sexy enough. Seems completely fair to me too.
Haha you got it ;)
The next challenge is huge but I have confidence in you both to pull it off somehow. Good luck guys
Cheers Ian! Yeah we’ve still got some hurdles ahead, but there are always solutions! :)
The word that described the condition of that sail best.. fanculo. No doubt.
🤣
The outtakes were too funny(eé) :)
Good luck!!
Cheers 🍻
how about instead of patches here and there you do a thorough job and add a new layer - maybe on each side - to the whole sail. Or do the patches and then do a protective layer over the whole sail on each side.
Hey Guy, good idea, but it might have been quite heavy and not sure what material we'd have here available at a reasonable cost
Wow, the sail looks like it was designed by 'Vivienne Westwood'' Fantastic! The outtakes had me in tears, hilarious 🤣😂 Thanks for sharing your journey, good luck☺
Haha cheers Kevin 🍻
Very gut that, the camera vas always in your hands
Haha thanks ;)
Scrapping with passion and know how! Great job.
Cheers Mosca 🙏
I am very sure there will be some 2nd hand sails floating around mate! I don't have any contacts but I know 100% there will be some! This sail is on her last legs but you will be fine! 🥰
Cheers Jacob yeah hopefully something will crop up sooner or later
your sail is fine. I tried contact glue on my sail and realized it's delaminated so bad that it's basically a plastic bag now. I tried spraying it inside the bag but it simply doesn't work
Heyhey nice to hear from you unfortunately our sail is also toast… we’ve already cut up and binned 😥
The sails were on their last legs before it was sold to New Zealand in 2014 (?) I am surprised they are still usable
Barely… but we have no other solution for now 🤦♀️
There is no hope for Mylar laminated sails in hot climates this includes North 3DL, Quantum, Elstrom or UK sails.
All these types of Sails should he rolled up and removed from the boom during the time in port.
Very true, we kept ours in air con during the refit
You should have paid Marshall sails to do the repairs, cut the mainsail down and renewed the luff. It´s not a problem since you are not going racing. It will be a problem if your main rips in the next storm..
Unfortunately we don’t expect the sail to last long enough for this to be worth it
good vid...! I have an old racing boat with laminate racing sails in the inventory and was wondering how to fix some issues and maintain them.
Hey Eva yes unfortunately though the sad truth is that once these sails have started to delaminate, they won’t last long 😔
I also wondered why you didn´t cut the boom during the restoration, for the same reason. Your boat is completely overpowered for it´s current purpose imo. But good luck on finding some new sails. I am sure there is something for you out there...
If we cut the boom, the balance of the boat would be wrong, the centre of thr sail would be too far forward... we'd have to cut the mast as well! We want to continue to have a fast boat :) at the moment she sails really well upwind with this confirmation and we like it that way
how much do the sails cost to buy new ?
It depends a lot on the material, the cheapest is Dacron and for our size is maybe around 10-15k usd. The original racing sail we were repairing in this video was laminate and they would most likely be double the price of Dacron, again depending a bit on which materials exactly are used. Laminate sails hold their shape better and are lighter but less durable.
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If it was me sailing your boat at least the bottom third of the mainsail would never ever see light😁😁😁🤪 You need a spy for new sails in Tasmania at the end of the Sydney Hobart.
Haha yeah we are hoping this video will help us hear of anything that comes up!
looks like you need new sails
Agreed ;)
Lotsa worksa!!❤️😃👍
Just for a change ;)
ma quanto cazzo è grossa quella randa :D GOGO Guys! Wanna see her sailin!
Coming soon!!!
Good luck with finding a donated sail and finding jobs!
Thank you! 🙏🤞
lol, i dont know italian, but i know catso :D :D
Haha you know the important stuff then ;)
pirate style sails, patched ones sails fast.... ✌️
Aaaarrrr 🍻