LEARN these Fairy FACTS or be UNDONE! (Changeling: the Dreaming lore)
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Today we take a look at Changeling: the Dreaming, a particularly whimsical and colourful entry into the World of Darkness RPG lines. We will acquire Glamour and confront Banality as we dive into the Dreaming.
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00:00 Intro
01:15 The Dreaming
15:48 Changelings
29:29 Glamour & Banality
35:50 Dream History
53:09 The Kiths
55:41 Boggan
59:28 Clurichaun
01:03:33 Eshu
01:07:29 Nocker
01:11:34 Piskey
01:15:44 Pooka
01:19:29 Redcap
01:23:48 Satyr
01:27:44 Selkie
01:31:45 Sidhe
01:36:54 Sluagh
01:41:35 Troll
01:45:52 Other Kiths
01:51:57 The Courts
02:01:08 Seelie Court
02:11:53 Unseelie Court
02:22:21 Other Forces
02:26:51 Cantrips
02:29:34 Realms
02:33:13 Arts
02:52:47 Noble Arts
02:59:03 Dark Arts
03:03:09 Closing Thoughts
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Werewolf fans are seething rn
Probably will end up with Mummy and Gypsies covered in depth before the furries get touched
A LITTLE OVER 3 HOURS man.
Tbf, werewolf also just got a pretty major lore overhaul, not that long ago, so if he is planning on discussing them, either he'll need time to figure it all out or at least consider if he wants to use old lore or new lore
@@Wnations95 hopefully no one will ever talk about that dumpster fire
also: while I would enjoy Mummy (unironically the only full on good guys in this setting) I dont think anyone is ever covering Gypsies due to, well, you know, controversy.
@@KairoStark
I literally don't get the full-on hate boner that people have for Werewolf. Is it the tone-deafness and stupidity? Because all WoD properties have that.
So next is Mummy and then demon, followed by chronicles of darkness and that should wrap it up, feels like im forgetting something
Damn forgot about exalted... did ANYONE like that game. All i ever hear is people shitting on it.
Oh but dont forget the one all about the eastern vampires, that was a thing
Seems like you guys covered all of the remnants of WoD… very nice!
we don't talk about that one...@@patrickoeary1425
There isn't a video on Werewolf the Apocalypse yet though
A video on the Crafts and Disperate Alliance from Mage
At this point, Burger has set a personal challenge to talk about anything other than Werewolf and I'm loving i! lol
Perhaps demon is next. I know it's not but I am generating glamour here.
@@Alexlalpaca I'd be down for that.
You know maybe Mummy next, no one gives it the love it deserves. Maybe Risen too. Or check out some of the unique splats of Chronicles.
am I the only fool who really really wants the werewolf deep drive? lol oh well
Hey, as long as it's WoD / Shadowrun / good content, im okay waiting for Werewolf.
No rush.
honestly the fact that the death of a Star is heralded by the creation of iron in its core is another poignant metaphor for why iron is the bane of fae but i cant put it into words
Get out of the Deep Dreaming. You’ve fallen off the Silver Path. You need to wake up
Delve deeper, there's materials and wisdoms fit for kings waiting for you to free them
One fae wrote both of those replies
@@800aspects2 Sssshhhh.
As an autistic person i can confirm i am able to manipulate reality
I mean hiding from paradox is kinda just magical masking.
Autism is not real, it's a fabricated illness resulting from modern societies focus on efficiency, akin to adhd. People of history didn't see you as special, because realistically they'd just have seen you as the odd child from that other farm if they even did think you odd
nah, everyone else just sees you shitting yourself and sperging over sonic, the magic is people being too polite to tell you the mask doesn't work
the magic of everyone being too polite to tell you how cringe you are acting
Iron is iron, but Cold Iron is iron with shape and purpose, Banality given form.
Kinda of. Iron "doesn't exist" in nature, it's too reactive.
Gold is for the mistress - silver for the maid" -
Copper for the craftsman cunning at his trade! "
" Good! " said the Baron, sitting in his hall,
But Iron - Cold Iron - is master of them all."
So he made rebellion 'gainst the King his liege,
Camped before his citadel and summoned it to siege.
" Nay! " said the cannoneer on the castle wall,
" But Iron - Cold Iron - shall be master of you all!"
Woe for the Baron and his knights so strong,
When the cruel cannon-balls laid 'em all along;
He was taken prisoner, he was cast in thrall,
And Iron - Cold Iron - was master of it all.
Yet his King spake kindly (ah, how kind a Lord!)
" What if I release thee now and give thee back thy sword? "
" Nay! " said the Baron, " mock not at my fall,
For Iron - Cold Iron - is master of men all."
" Tears are for the craven, prayers are for the clown
Halters for the silly neck that cannot keep a crown."
" As my loss is grievous, So my hope is small,
For Iron - Cold Iron - must be master of men all! "
Yet his King made answer (few such Kings there be!) "
Here is Bread and here is Wine - sit and sup with me.
Eat and drink in Mary's Name, the whiles I do recall
How Iron - Cold Iron - can be master of men all."
He took the Wine and blessed it. He blessed and brake the Bread
With His own Hands He served Them, and presently He said:
" See! These Hands they pierced with nails, outside My city wall,
Show Iron - Cold Iron - to be master of men all. "
" Wounds are for the desperate, blows are for the strong.
Balm and oil for weary hearts all cut and bruised with wrong.
I forgive thy treason - I redeem thy fall
For Iron Cold Iron - must be master of men all! "
'Crowns are for the valiant - sceptres for the bold!
Thrones and Powers for mighty men who dare to take and hold!'
" Nay! " said the Baron, kneeling in his hall,
" But Iron - Cold Iron - is master of men all!
Iron out of Calvary is master of men all! "
@@user-tl5gj9dw4xdid you come up with that? It's awesome!
@@Illitha nah man its a little poem by Rudyard Kipling.
But im happy to have shared it
that:
"No," the gardener said, "I am the growth and preservation of complexity. I will make myself into a law in the game."
And thus we two became parts of the game, and the laws of the game became nomic and open to change by our influence. And I had only one purpose and one principle in the game. And I could do nothing but continue to enact that purpose, because it was all that I was and ever would be.
I looked at the gardener.
I looked at my hands.
I discovered the first knife.
-Type Beat
So with WoD's tendency to adopt historical figures as faction characters; The French Glutton Tararre and that one guy who kept eating bicycles were both Redcaps right?
"That one guy who kept eating bicycles" made me burst out laughing, but his name was Michel Lotito.
And the answer to your question is "Yes, most definitely".
I made Tararre as a nosfuratu it was very fun
absolutely yes.
Hello, I'm an accounts clerk that genuinely enjoys dealing with paperwork. I feel so seen for once.
Edit: oh gods, I'm a Boggan!
THE ECONOMY WAS MY MUSE!
I stare at the monitor,
the spreadsheets on my screen,
and my eyeballs know calm like never else.
(c) Kevin, The Great and Mighty magician
Watch Hunter the parenting
@@jiltedFiddler LOL! Pretty much except I'm the chick in the office bring Kevin coffee and sorting paperwork for him.
You enjoy paperwork? You ain't a Boggan, you that fucking Elf from Hilda
"9/11 Caused Evanescence" - Completely Out of Context CtD Lore
There's been a bit of a trend lately of neurodivergent people reclaiming the folklore/myth of the Changeling as a way of explaining neurodivergence in pre-modern societies, so it was very funny to me just how many of the kinds of Changelings feel like "person with severe and unmedicated ADHD"
Aren't genetic diseases also the origins of the IRL Changeling myth? Downs, Progeria, Angelman, and Williams.
@@TiroDvD Sorta, many cultures decided that those with physical or mental disabilities of many kinds, form deformities, missing limbs, autism, etc... where changelings, spirit childs, or the like. This often lead to infantacide!
@lasttarrasque6223 This... isn't as true as most believe it to be. The idea that the neurodivergant or those with learning disabilities are undesirable is a rather recent phenomena that people just... *said* had been happening for millenia. Don't get me wrong, some societies did do that, but... it was not the majority. Think about it this way, ADHD wouldn't be that discernable at the time, nor would most forms of learning disabilities actually... hinder the types of work commoners were doing. If you give someone with Downs a sickle, they are just as capable of reaping a harvest as anyone else, and given that people would need to have like... a dozen children to ensure a couple would make it to adulthood, it seems very unlikely that they would kill a child for being weird looking and not too bright. Also, people with mental disabilities were seen as closer to the divine because they lacked the knowledge of the world, and would often be taken in by the church.
@@Mr.Monacle This is incorrect
@lasttarrasque6223 no, they are correct in that it is a fairly recent thing for most societies to view less than able people in that way. It was literally a lie made up by eugenicists in the late 1700, early 1800s(if I remember correctly).
We have plenty of archeological evidence to show that people with disabilities weren't just abandoned or killed. The vast majority of human society and history has been communal, not individualistic.
This dude... all the wisdom of the world, brought to you, through a sock.
Wisdom beats quarters or bars of soap...
the sock is gonna catch on, just wait
They make great pop filters. I use one too.
He changed it, too. It's a lot more subtle than the old white sock.
@@OpheliaDarling2814 Or bricks
Huh, hell of a way to learn Changeling the Dreaming and Changeling the Lost are different things
They are the exact opposite of each other, basically.
Dreaming is "Old World"
And Lost is "New World"
From what I'm aware of Changeling The Lost it just deals with people who got wrapped up in fae bs right?
@@jacobmoorman6323I remember someone calling it Otherkin: The Glitter-Bombing, and I think that's fairly apt.
Man, I hope that difference stays if 5th edition Changeling when/if it comesa out
@@maciejas2471Its gonna be harder for Renegade to copy off of Onyx's homework when that finally comes around. God knows Werewolf didnt exactly launch so well and its hard to tell what kind of went on there.
Note on that final note. I kinda feel like Mage would be narcissism rather than autism. After all, autism is intrinsically kinda self-contained, often almost disconnected from the rest of the world, whereas the narcisst is so self-centeredly certain of their own assertion that they expect the rest of the world to conform to their expectations, no matter how unrealistic they may be. And with devastating potential for malignancy to boot.
I’m only partway through the video. What did he say about autism?
I think the Technocracy is narissism, with it trying to control the world, while most normal mages just end up fucking off to be on their own, which is pretty autistic
I've always viewed Changeling as the Autism/ADHD game
The Fomorians be like:
The black plague: zzz
Mass slavery revival and colonial wars: zzz
Napoleonic and other Post-Revolution Wars: zzz
WW1 and spanish flu: zzz
WW2 and Holocaust: zzz
Cold War and Chinese Cultural Revolution: zzz
9/11: Ah, yes, terror ravages the world. I AWAKE!
In Brittany you may find, partying at night in clearings in the old woods, the Korrigan, who will give you a challenge. Should you succeed, they will bless you with something you didn't know you needed. But if you fail, they will curse you in a way you DEFINITELY KNEW sucks.
I always felt annoyance/regret at the fact that Changeling never got its own historical setting (like Mage got the Renaissance, Vampire the Middle Ages, Werewolf the Wild West). Dark Ages: Fae was more "playing as the pre-Changelings" than an actual CtD setting. I would have loved to play through the time period where Glamour was rampant but Banality was encroaching - from the 17th century to the Regency era. Pirate changelings, yarr!
Okay, now I just need my "Edward Teach, Redcap" fix and I need it right now.
Or homeric changeling
But that's kind of the thing about changeling as their being something relatively new in WOD, as beings of glamour or entities of the high umbra, do you realize just how powerful actual, regular fae are compared to anything else? If Fomorians are eldritch beings and nightmares, than dreams and concepts given form are the same on that scale.
Roaring 20's Changelings, perhaps?
Doesn't Lasombra take pirate nishe already?
Pooka were always my favorite just because role-playing the lies is fun. I always thought of what I wanted to or was trying to say, and then ran it through a mental filter to flip parts of it and generally obfuscate it in the least obvious way possible. Sometimes resulting in my conversation partner getting the absolute wrong message while I'm silently thinking "come on, did you forget who you are talking to?"
Always need someone who speaks pookanese.
@@jacobmoorman6323 Pookanese the opposite of Pookienese (the language of my Pookie Sugarplum Schnookums)
Its often the case that people look at Changeling the Dreaming and write it off, only to later take a closer look and realize its actually awesome.
I remember you calling changeling "Schizophrenia the role playing game" or something like that and specifically the part where you describe the Arts and the bugs? to perform them... Like if you ever went through psychosis and thought you suddenly had magical power, thats how you tried to manifest them. Or at least I did.
Also the whole chrysalis thing and the changelings that are therapied and medicated out of it.
Lol. Just finished the video and you mention it yourself. Im pretty sure though that you said "changeling is schizophrenia" before as well. ^^
During the Eshu description, I immediately had the thought of a good type of person for that type of changling: Teachers. Maybe you have an Eshu highschool teacher, gaining Glamor from the students that are in awe from the passionate lectures that they give on their given subject.
Had the same idea of an Eshu being a Children's TV producer that wants the best writers and directors for shows to gain glamour.
Well, since they are supposed to be nomads and don't like talking about themselves, that one cool substitute teacher you had in high-school would be perfect.
Another cool idea would be a traveling nurse that specializes in mental health. Always going to those who need to hear their stories, then leaving, maybe a little too early due to their recklessness.
Would need to be like a substitute teacher because they gotta keep moving
There is a folklore creature in Brasil known as "Saci". They are black skinned tricksters with only one leg that wear red caps. They play pranks that go from harmful to deadly in seconds, can creature tornados and are almost Impossible to catch. I think they would be great Kiths
In Indiana there's folklore about skin walkers, wendigos, and pukwudgies. I think Skin walkers would make a great Kith but wendigos are more like lycanthropes and pukwudgies are literally just hobgoblins or goblins.
@@ghostface490also wendigo is a werewolf in canon or gangrels
@@raipe125 Yeah, there are very few fairy-like creatures in the folklore of Indiana. Most of the fairy-like creatures in Indiana folklore are either witches that can shapeshift or spirits of nature, pretty boring and bland if you ask me.
@@ghostface490I think Skin walkers are Thallain in 20th Anniversary edition
@diogoteixeira4950 Sounds like Pookas' favourite Chimera companions
I've always had fun creating characters within the zeitgeist of the world of darkness itself. For instance, picture an iteration x technician who discovers a new method of engineering which is so awesome inspiring that he...goes through his chrysalis rather than an awakening. 🎉🎉
and gets undone immediately after lmao
god that has to be fucky for the technocracy,
"GOD DAMNIT JEFF YOU WENT THE OTHER DIRECTION-"
Burger: "The Evanescence" Me: starts humming Bring Me To LIfe
The Changeling mythos seems like a kind of archaic animism, whereby all phenomena are infused with spirit.
Sociologically, it could be useful in bridging the gap between human agency and random chance. It could save people from the dangers of overidentification when they experience extreme circumstances.
Too often people are written off as fundamentally defective when outcomes do not match the expectations. For example, instead of being branded as mentally deficient and essentially useless in and of themselves when they perform poorly in school, they just need to search for their personal tutorial spirit. Who may or may not give a shit about grammar, math or coloring inside the lines, generally.
This sort of mythos respects diversity and creates resilience. It creates dignity and engagement.
In other words, I think Banality is more about spiritual monoculture rather than an absolute lack of spirit. As you yourself say, the odd Boggan who can derive Glamour from accounting does exist, as rare as they may be.
I am Hungarian/Romanian from Transylvania! Here's a couple kiths that could live in my area!
Garabonciás- A wandering mage-like fairy from Hungarian folklore that goes around testing people's character, rewarding them if he finds them admirable and punishing them by summoning dragons if they act poorly. Often in the shape of a young, poor student or beggar. In Changeling form, a person with great morals who wants others to do good, and cannot tolerate selfishness.
Guta- Probably Thallain, associated with the midday sun. Invisible giants who appear and beat the shit out of you if you are out in the sun for too long. They are, in human form, people who just truly despise other people having a good time and always have to ruin everyone's fun.
Szépasszony (literally "Pretty Woman"): A demonic, forest dwelling siren like creature, but instead of singing, they dance. If you join their dance, they put a spell on you and make you dance until you die of exhaustion. May be similar to Nasties.
Little in life brightens my day as much as a several hour long burgerkrieg upload
You know you're making good content when the community has memes going on about you at just below fifty-thousand subs.
Changeling is my favorite splat behind Vampire and Mage. Such a different vibe from the rest of WoD while still being dark.
Kelpies become horses because they are a mythological Scottish creature who are, for lack of better words, wet horses
Exactly! I was digging through the comments to see if anyone knew this, they're such a cool part of folklore.
I’m not gonna lie, the shpeal at the beginning of this video regarding the fey realm more than any of the others has just filled me with more questions than answers.
While the video so far is excellent, he got Cold Iron wrong, in 15:27 it's not all Iron that automatically registers as Cold Iron, it's only Iron forged over Charcoal in a low tech furnace. This is a huge bit of lore to fuck up and I wanted to correct it
To be fair, for all the reference to cold iron, I couldn't find the actual definition anywhere. For a hot minute I thought it ment unsmelted ore or something.
@@wetzel4806 Simply looking up "World of Darkness Cold Iron" on a browser of your choice brings up a Wiki page on C:tD's handling of it, and in the literal Cold Iron section of Changeling: The Dreaming 20th Anniversary Edition Corebook, in page 290 to page 291, it explains Cold Iron in detail and even clarifies its Iron ore smelted over Charcoal Fire, I've not fucking idea how would you be able to miss that, the C20 section on Cold Iron is even pointed out in the Tables of Content in the beginning of the book
this is not actually the most current lore as of CtD 20, and sources in older editions do not agree. There are major inconsistencies in this gameline and the true nature of cold iron is one of them. Industrially manufactured wrought iron is also "cold iron" for instance. At this point I would leave it up to GM fiat
I wanna pre-emptively apologize in case this comes off as rude
Edit: I was apologizing to the dude that came before Burger
@@TheBurgerkrieg "Cold iron is not what most modern humans think of as iron.
Stainless steel or cast iron do not produce the same effects when
used as weapons against changelings. Only iron ore heated over a
charcoal flame can produce cold iron - the substance produced is
more commonly known as wrought iron in the modern world. This
black metal can be hammered into virtually any shape, including
weapons. Large weapons made of cold iron, such as swords, are
brittle and do not hold an edge well, and are typically unwieldy,
adding 1 or 2 to the difficulty of combat rolls made with them. If the
user botches this roll, the weapon breaks. Smaller examples of cold
iron weapons do not suffer this penalty, so the most common uses
of cold iron as a weapon are as daggers, arrowheads, and the like."
This is from the Cold Iron section in C20, but yeah I was probably too rude with the other guy, and it going "Cold iron is produced over Coal Flame" then stating that the substance is also known as Wrought Iron is certainly confusing, especially since Wrought Iron is mostly produced through a process known as Puddling which does not use Charcoal. Blurring it a lot. I can certainly see the appeal in making everything Wrought Iron act as Cold Iron, makes for more deadly games and helps set the mood that you are in a world that is moving in a way hostile to you. Personally I still use the classic Cold Iron process where it must be produced over Charcoal Fire to make Cold Iron feel more special and dangerous when encountered
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I found you from your Vampire the Masquerade clans video to help me prepare for the game I was invited to. And your entire way of being is so fun and charming and interesting that I am excited to just strap in for the ride.
His gaming content is relatively tame. Go check out his more serious content if you want to get a full dose.
It'd be hilarious to see an awakened technocratic mage go through a changeling chrysalis and have a huge internal conflict.
I had a werewolf that went through that.
I feel like mages and changelings would work together a lot.
@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlongit could go either way. For all the traditions would inspire people, the moon landing and science has also. I feel the big problem here is changeling stay away due to the world's limitation, and mages of both varieties ultimately want to enforce rules, theirs at least.
@@wetzel4806 wouldnt mages get stronger if there was no clear concensus tho? like could they just do whatever they wanted?
There was not one of your Lore-Videos, which I didn't deeply enjoy. You honor us all with your work and dedication. I know that you have lot of Ground to cover before you will talk about Promethean, if at all, but I will wait patiently.
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!!
he can
but one day the Garou will have our moment
@@KairoStarkyes, such a martyr. Didn't your kind get down on some atrocities a few years back and cause this mess to begin with? Let me check my notes...
@@LordScrambles1 That would be Spiders killing 8 other fera, and Nagah that killed a king of the garou who was trying to make peace and make 1 huge group then they killed him and the bears refused to bring him back
@@grognackthegrognardianbarb7883slavery... slavery comes to mind.
@@LordScrambles1 I will never say the Garou never did wrong.
I will say, although, that without us, y'all screwed in ways most cant even imagine. It would take years for archmages to undo what the Wyrm could in a second in this plane, and its not getting fixed because the Technocracy would rather see Hell than to see a world that doesnt follow their order to a T.
The world of darkness team biggest contribution is the copious amount contemproary mythology they make. Every setting has such a wealth of comprehensive heroes, legends and monsters it works like a playable fairy tale, often a goth one wich is the best kind.
Thank you so much for this, Burger. Just like Hunter, Changeling was the big one I had a hard time wrapping around. Just one of those things where it feels vague, but you know what it is when you see it kind of things. Which is probably why Changeling didn't get as much love during the Revised era than you would've thought it would, but at least 20th was kinder than what WW/Onyx gave to Wraith for it's 20th Anniversary Edition.
Can't wait to see what comes next!
It was Wraith and Vampire for me - Wraith because I had trouble wrapping my head around a world that was as much metaphor as it was physical reality to the dead, and Vampire because I found the conspiracy and politics silly. Changeling, on the other hand, was my jam. I just found all my original 1st and Revised/2nd Edition books and put them on a shelf.
@snorpenbass4196 Well lol Finding conspiracy and politics silly isn't much about wrapping your head around it than just not being intrigued by the idea, like how some don't want to just be a murder furry
Changling the lost is reason why.
Where is my demon 20a????
@raipe125 Agreed lol Cause unless Paradox does something with the gameline, a 20th Demon anniversary would be nice. Though, Onyx is probably too preoccupied with CoD and other gamelines they now produce
In my part of the world all the "Fey" seen in the Witcher series can be seen as well. Many different forest spirits, hosehold ones, the ones based on farm animals or weather... or diseases... or women.
Anyway I can't wait for the Demon the Fallen and Mummy the Curse lore vidieos... and the "Unspoken one" too ;D
Eshus are a major part of most african-rooted religions in Brazil, tho we write it "Exú".
And it's pretty much it, they're messengers, travelers, and make the bridge between the mortals and the gods.
Laroye, Exú! Exú é Mojubá!
I'd genuinely love to see your take on Deviant: the Renegades. I know it's not nearly as popular as other WoD titles owing to its age, but it really has meant a lot to me in the same way it sounds like Changeling has to you in terms of philosophical and other forms of personal growth.
Ah, yes, changeling
For when you want to be the weird one among the weird ones at your local LGS
Kinda slightly hypocritical of the faerie to be all self-righteous about the banality of human society while also having the exact same take on nobility and social classes and classism
"Our nobles make the farmers work in the plantation 20 hours a day, yes, but they do it in very colorful clothes. we are just built different."
It would be funny if banality only affects them because they're the ones enforcing it.
So is the lore about vampires and werewolves being fallen changed dream land creators real? I know WOD is based in lore being changeable but this makes me very curious. It feels like each of these game lines seems to reveal more and more of the world and shows the previous game lines assumptions to be at least fairly incorrect. Like hunters are just regular humans who have a basic understanding of monsters, vampires have some but not much knowledge about themselves, wraiths understand death, and mages and technocrats seem to have deep knowledge about so many of the functions of reality. Only for fairy to go and change all of that lore again. Basically I am confused and I think that’s the point.
As a general rule of thumb, it's quite likely that most WoD splats are the closest to the mark for their own history but tend to try using it to explain everything, even though they usually get at least something wrong. This is especially true with the changelings given that they are, on average super prideful about their heritage, and so most likely adapted some stuff.
While there's no consensus between chronicles and yours can certainly be whatever you like (mine has around 20 vampires [+ probably Caine in torpor in the caves] in my city because it only has a single prince who hunts any other vampire in the area in the supplements, and that didn't really fit what I wanted), it's generally reasonable to conclude that:
• Caine killed his brother, made out with his dad's ex, and was cursed by The One Above, then sired 3 childe and they basically fucked everyone who has blood that's a bit too tasty.
• The underworld is composed of memories and is constantly circling the drain of OBLIVION. Also there's like ghosts that are totally friendly and aren't slaves being forced to do horrific acts in order to not get thrown in the soul forges...
• Changelings and Fae are created from the dreams of humans and are kinda trapped in a world vaguely reminiscent of the build up to the Oxygen Holocaust...
• The Fallen are demons who are escaping from literal hell.
• Hunters are regular mortals, some of whom were imbued with some edgy powers by the voices... in their heads? Outside their heads? Buggered if they actually know.
• The Prometheans are sort of soulless creations that might be able to become human if they follow the voices... in their heads, or like, completely ignore them maybe?
• Mages are just -schizophrenic- very woke and hopped up on the good shit (hermetic's mummy powder is just as much a drug as the ecstatic's cocaine, and don't get me started on the 10 terabit/s satellite uplink that the adepts have plugged into their brains), only the delusions are real, sometimes, usually when that will result in reality police showing up in a police box and escorting you inside...
Oh, and also some nature deity decided that the best counter to a literal god of corruption was to host a global furry convention, but *one* specific group decided that they wanted to earn their hanken cruz badges...
That basically sums up the more or less """accurate""" lore origins for most of the splats. Are they mostly really off topic? Yes. Are they mostly a bit awkward? Yes. Did I mention ghosts being tortured for the benefit of a morally bankrupt hierarchical system that soul forges those who don't comply? No, and you sound ridiculous for having thought that.
(Also, it's like 2:20am, and I haven't read through the splats or watched Lazar or Stygia recently enough to give even half reasonable descriptions of them, but the basic gist should be fine I think)
And then the demons come along and tell an entirely different story. The thing about the World Of Darkness is that all of them are correct and all of them are wrong to varying degrees. Yes, the angels crafted the world at the dawn of times and simultaneously yes, the ancient dreams of primordial life shaped the very nature of reality. History is written by the devil and truth is what the majority believe... and also what is objectively real when the majority disagree. Reality is both subjective and fuzzy and stark and unyielding all at once.
And them we have demons...they was in the beginning.
@@theapexsurvivor9538prometheans are nwod, not owod
@@raipe125 Yeah, the Demons were especially egregious because not only were they around since the very beginning, but they were given a background to let them remember all of it. Not a "faint possibly half-true recollections of.." thing, but flat out "your memories of the before-time are clear."
The closest WoD had come to that before was, I think, the Mokole (werecrocodiles) ability of Mnesis.
49:30 One thing I like about Old WoD is the existence of Rage Across Appalachia, a sourcebook about my region of origin. It talks about not only the Duchy of Blue Grasses and the Duchy of Appalachia, but the various werewolf tribes that keep cairns in the Qualla Boundary, Cumberland Plateau, and other ritual sites. It definitely still has that 90s WoD edginess to it, but for a work of art that was made by people outside the area, I appreciate that it was a good faith effort to change the perspective of a place that's usually considered the butt of jokes into something beautiful and wonderful. I got a copy of it for my Storyteller as a gift recently, just in case it sparked any inspiration for them.
In terms of the fey folk around my home, the ones in Rage Across Appalachia are relevant, both nunnahi and kithain. While she's most likely a Wraith of some variety, it's not impossible that the Pink Lady of the Grove Park Inn could be some manner of changeling, living there and keeping up the myth as a way to obtain glamour.
Santa Cruz is an unbelievably haunted town, and carries with it the collective mythology of much of the country due to the fact this is where most of those films about hauntings and horrors come from. The forested hills bend in just the wrong way, giving a kind of catastrophically wrong energy to the whole city. Some places even harness it, like the original Mystery Spot, where the terrain doesn’t allow you to properly understand the direction of down and the angles of stationary objects, even very small ones very close together.
Just watch, he's going to do Demon next, and then do Mummy and somehow stretch that stillbirth of a game into 3 hours of content
I mean demon has a lot of content. Have you seen The Old Country's coverage of it?
Oh you meant mummy was a stillbirth, I am sorry.
Mummy basically didn't exist
Kind of a minor point but the Kelpie turning into a horse might be because the ocean and horses were often connected by cultures such as the Greeks, who likened the untamable wildness of the ocean to the nature of horses (which is why Poseidon, for example, was the god of both). Considering the Kelpie turns into a horse to then drag you beneath the water in order to drown you, the connection sort of remains.
"9/11 brought about Evanescence."
Perfect lore for when you're a fae and you need to wake up inside your mortal host...
I like how Burger managed to become one of the most go to world of darkness content creators when his channel isn’t even dedicated to WoD.
I can’t wait for him to get through all the WoD franchises.
Except for Werewopf of course
I'd love to hear your take on Changeling the Lost
Yay! I wanted to be a Mage so the reclassification of Mage The Ascension makes me very happy
Also thanks for the shout out😊
Remember to get Changeling: The Lost as well!
So the dreaming is basically the Warp from 40K Thousand
More like the Warp as seen in Warhammer Fantasy with more than just four or five powers vying for control but yeah.
Someone having dementia at old age and that allowing the chrysalis to happen sounds like an interesting position to be in.
I'm starting to see similarities, everything was unknown and powerful and mystical until the Great Big Thing happened and suddenly everything was irrevocably changed, and it is the new changed world you now deal with, as a fledgling member of this group that tries to act as the new fully in control hegemony but things are changing! Even if that hegemony doesn't want to admit it.
Which is admittedly a very very good basis for a ttrpg but also just very funny how 1-to-1 a lot of this is
Imagine a cowboy themed Khith. You know, the cowboy and all have their own mythology so
It works
Bro is gonna cover vampire the requiem before werewolf.
Okay, Werewolf when?
Oh, those heady WoD MUSH days of the early 90s. It was WILD.
I can't believe there is a faerie that becomes your friend and then goes to Vietnamese restaurants while visiting your town without letting you know.
"You better be a slow shitter"
me, with IBS: I FEEL SEEN AND HEARD.
Every time you pick up a cool stick, you chase away banality
Still waiting for my classic Scion lore video
I can't wait to get WoD Kuei-Jin and Gypsies before we get Werewolf! Possibly even sneak Mafia in there....
Let's go, Sorcerer's Crusade!
Unlikely the second, for obvios reasons. But dont forget mummy and exalted.
@@patrickoeary1425eh, I could see Burger doing a "and here's where WW fucked up" video with Gypsies. But it'll definitely come after Prometheans, Demon, Mummy, Geist, KotE, Revenant/Zombie, Warlock, Spectre, Pixie, Human, and Fiend. Then he'll just be short Lycanthrope and he'll be finished...
H.O.L. and Freak Legion
I love the fact that cryptids are just fairies
Don’t think anyone has mentioned this is the second Ocean’s film trilogy reference Burger has made, I.e making people think a Faberge Egg is still there.
Awww man. I was hoping for Changling the lost. Aww well. I'm sure it'll come eventually
He hasnt even started doing New World of Darkness yet, why did you expect The Lost before The Dreaming???
Yooooo Celtic mythology references in the lore with the tuatha de danann (the pre Christan irish gods) and the Fomorians this is awesome because we don't get enough celtic mythology references in modern pop culture
Ah yes, because druids aren't a thing in d&d, neither are the Lhiannan in Dark Ages Vampire, or The Fianna in Werewolf or the fomori all werewolves fight.
@@jacobmoorman6323 sorry i forgot in my excitement over that
S'all good friend, I'm just being a troll. It's cool to see the tuatha de danann as something that aren't Mages.
@@jacobmoorman6323D&D druids aren't really based on Celtic mythology though, the only thing they really have in common is the fact D&D druids use divine magic(since one of the roles of a druid was as a religious leader), outside of the Roman name given to them.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 well not everyone who goes to a church on Sunday isn't a Christian but that doesn't stop a majority of them from calling themselves such. You do nature magic out in the woods with animals and trees and stuff I got some news for ya. You're a druid. You play nice or on even terms with animals while using a teensy bit of magic...? Druid. You want to shape-shifting into an animal but don't have the genes to do so and still just wanna chill outside with your wolf deer and squirel bros? Druid. Now where ya REAAAAAALLY could got me is talking about rangers... which are just more martial druids. Except how in real life rangers are just fighters who did better in field training or something. :)
Aight. Who’s in a betting mood. I’ve got $25 bucks that says Burger will cover Demon & Mummy before he gets to werewolf who’s on it
im assuming WW2 genersted entire REALMS of dark Seething Nightmares
shit probably looks like a realm of The Slaughter from TMA
@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong TMA?
@@the_protectorof_smols3563 the magnus archives... sorry, I assumed people here had probably heard it.
If I am not mistaken, but to be clear I probably am mistaken, "cold iron" references the "death of innocence" or the transition from a child full of dreams to the hard and cold reality of adulthood. Imagine for example you are a young lad in the middle ages full of dreams and life just so war touches your life and you are awoken by the terrible atrocities of life by idk... shaving a knife into some enemy soldier guy and see him dying before your eyes. That knife is the cold iron, not due to some magical thing but due to what it represents.
Again, this is what I think it references ^^'
The real life origin of the term has been traced back to a specific poem which makes no actual attempt to explain what the term means
@nicholascarter9158 cold iron? If it is cold iron is basically "power".
So the Swedish Skogsrået would be a changeling then? A beautiful woman with a tail and sometimes a dark hole instead of a back that often lure men out in to the woods and enthralls them forever. She also sometimes saves men and helps hunters. Or stops hunters from killing her deer that she rides.
I wonder what a terminally online persons phone or room would be like
Or one of those people in a echo chamber
Or a historian
Or a megachurch
Or a commune or compound
Some megachurches totally have a relatively large changeling population
The terminally online persons room might be a dense spiderweb of cables, with each opening showing a different scene and place
The echo chamber could be a hall of mirrors where the distorted reflections could reach out and attack you with distended claws
The historians room might be a patchwork of different architectural styles crudely mashed together containing scrolls and tomes bound in leather
The megachurch might be incomprehensibly large, with flashing neon signs telling people where to go and what to do with a throne in the middle where the fat and bloated pastor sits
The commune might be a military encampment, surrounded by barbed wire and minefields to keep out the dangers of the outside world, and to keep the inhabitants in
Of course these are just ideas off the top of my head, and I'm sure there are plenty of other good interpretations
You know, I dont play any of these games. I played VtM in the early years and HtR maybe for two sessions. I was looking for long plays to go to sleep.
That. Was. A mistake. I ended up staying awake and listening to Vampire Clans. The wordplay is good, and as a unsophisticated American I enjoy the accent.
Now, I'm falling down lore holes - hours at a time. And really wanting to play all these games. Well, maybe not all of them. But, I'm a closeted goth/emo girl and Wraith sounded... fun.
Wraith is certainly a game that really struck me to my core when I heard of it. I truly respect the ideas and mechanics of your own shadow being your greatest adversary. It's truly a beautiful game..... if you're mature enough for it.
Fun idea for the court structures; if anyone’s running a changeling game and they want to make it super queer (which, as far as I’m concerned is the only correct read), there’s actually a very strong tradition within the drag community about electing Dukes and Duchesses, which would make it criminally easy to create amazing NPCs lol
It honestly fits very well with how flamboyant those comunities are
Hmm Changeling the lost condensing this a lot. But its still feels really different.
"you best be a slow shitter, because this video has a few more hours in it!" It's a good thing I am at work
Damn, never read any changeling stuff, but hearing a lot of familiar words. Thanks Dresden files
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I would bet decent sums of Glamor that someone within the old-school Otherkin community was invovled in the core creative team for The Dreaming.
And I would bet vast amounts of cold hard cash that the Dreaming (and the lost) had a massive impact on the second wave and new otherkin communities, as well as occult, psychomancer, and general alt groups online.
Id make that bet
Your claims of legs is clearly an attempt to fool us into not realizing your lower half is a kraken. Another great video; the Fey lore is one part of WoD I can't adapt because I already have different fairy lore in-place, but its still very interesting and I can still cherry-pick from it.
when I first started watching (I stared on the vampires.) I wondered why such a dark setting would attract so many people but now that I'm at this latest entry and you made the surprisingly accurate Analogy of Mage and Autism I'm realizing it's because beneath the Layer of absolutely wacky and kinda fatalist perspective there's a lot of heart here. and The world needs heart.
Thanks for your work.
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I think it is, since Nunnehi (native American changelings) can go to the Umbra
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I've also read that Redcaps are a manmade personification of hungry cold winds of the Ice Age, which makes them compete with Pookas (neolitic hunters' creation) for being the 1st kith ever existed.
PS: nnnnope. New update to CtD lore brought us Dragokins, made-up by a prehuman reptiloid civilization or Mokole or smth like that...
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Ive also read that Dougals augmetic shtick is actually a necessety, cuz Lord Dougal himself have worked with the Cold Iron and got so cippled by it that all of his followers are now crippled to some degree too.
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['lʲan:an]. Also: rhapsody that they practice is a highly intimate process, which often involves love, so they basicly kill those they love. Leanhaun, as Russian roleplayers say, eat glass.
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one of the things I love most about changeling is that, while all WoD lore has many interpretive elements that are also plausible explanations, Changeling goes above and beyond with this notion, so much so that with the way the Dreaming works it could all be true
Thank you so much, I've tried before to understand Changeling and it didnt go well
For future reference, Tuatha is pronounced too-uh. At least, I'm like, 90% about that pronunciation. It's Gaelic, so, y'know.
Also, fun fact: Ard Ri means High King in Irish Gaelic.
find me the fucker that transcribed that word that way so I can throw icicles at them.
The first section hits different when it’s 2:30 am and you are sleep deprived
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Sluagh ASMR
Sluagh circumventing the curse with a vocorder
Thank you Burger.
This is serotonin.
god, the 9/11 had me laughing my ass off. I made a wild guess that it would be 9/11 given the American bent of the preceding lore but holy hell that got me.
oooooh, hell yes, Love this. Time to use this to help my players understand why I have both the Mage and Changeling books in addition to the WFRP book whose core rules I'm actually using.😆🤩
For some reason they way you lay out the lore of these games. You have a great way of presenting the lore stuff and mechanical stuff as one clean presentation.
I love the idea of a gang of new Jersey devil changelings.
So what I'm learning is that I may be a Nocker and I don't know how to feel about this
Yey i love changling the dreaming.
As a changeling fan I am blessed, not enough people talk about this amazing game
Maybe now that Werewolf 5 is out he’ll go to it next, but I kinda hope he goes to like demon or something
He needs to do everything else first, just for the memes at this point (including the pentex parody ones for April fools).
Changeling is a good edition to the series, because even though the game starts out with a sense of childlike wonder and freedom, the whole concept of the game is having that stuff gradually beaten out of your character during the course of their adventures. The fate at the end of your character's road is to become a jaded, cynical adult who's been forced to give up on their dreams; and that's super depressing.
We need a book shelf tour. Those are some choice titles in the background. Also, Changeling was a wacky ride.
Something I'm shocked you didn't cover is how the setting of Changeling seems to run on fridge horror. When I first read the v20 rulebook, I was bored as heck by the lore at the start, but then I put the book down, took a shower, and suddenly started putting the pieces together. My head was spinning like the first time I had gotten therapy.
For example, you mentioned the connection with Mage, and although I think the goal of the Technocracy is laudable we are all in agreement that they are the real bad guys of the setting. However, lets imagine the changelings got what they wanted and brought the world into a new summer of glamour. What would that mean for us humans? For one thing, we would once again be living in a strange world with monsters and demons, with real unimaginable horrors lurking in the darkness. Is that really a world we should be trying to bring back?
It was as good as it was bad, so better and worse than now
It’s up to you if you think banality is better
fighting demons for food is somehow STILL better than capitalism.
somehow still better than capitalism
my comments keep getting deleted, but basically. Still better than what we've got. I'd rather the monsters.
This video made my brain do a 180 on Changeling. God now I wanna play it.
Pausing the video to say...Your description of the Dreaming was incredible! Now I want you to storytell a game for me, where we seek out the bizarre treasures of the far Dreaming... and I won't be satisfied with anyone else. Changeling the Dreaming has been a huge part of my identity for over 25 years. And though i haven't played since high school, the philosophy of preserving our dreams and our magic, has given my life purpose. I read the source books for comfort, but now i want to PLAY again! Preferably with someone who can describe the dreaming as well as you just did. WOW!