Inside the slow rollout of electric vehicle charging stations
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- Опубліковано 19 лют 2024
- While carmakers are ramping up their rollouts of electric vehicles, the construction of EV charging stations has lagged far behind. CBS News national environmental correspondent David Schechter has more.
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You can tell the reporters don't understand EVs. The real advantage is being able to charge at home. I've been driving a leaf for 2 years, and only use public chargers occasionally--relying on chademo. And yeah, tesla has much better fast charging infrastructure than ccs or chademo. Tesla is also starting to license their chargers to other automakers, which will help a lot.
A lot of people live in housing that makes that impossible, such as apartments or other rentals that don't have that option..
@@dmac7128 That is true, but about 60% of people have garages, and they are well set for a better experience than car drivers. I used to have to stop at a gas station a few times a week, but now I only supercharge if I am on a long drive, like going to visit my son in college, or driving cross country. But your point is well made. Getting chargers to people in apartments would be more effective for EV adoption than pouring money into DC fast chargers.
@dmac7128 everyone that has an electric stove or dryer can change at home with an extension cord. All housing I'm america has 240V
@@martalli 40 percent is still a lot of people. And in that percentage are people that live in city centers where EVs make the most sense to use.
@@dmac7128 That's really evidence that a better policy would be one that focuses on expanding level 2 charging at apartment complexes.
"Plug-in EV"...he means 'Plug-in hybrid'. All EVs "plug in", that's how you charge them. What this whole report fails to mention is that the vast majority (95%+) of charging happens at home while you sleep. Public chargers are really only needed for long distance journeys. Thinking that you need to rely on public charging just to own an EV is very 'gas car' thinking. The reality is you charge at home and wake up every day with a 'full tank' if you want to. For most people most of the time that's plenty to do what you need to do in a day. I never use the public chargers in my city, I only need the public chargers that are four hours away from me when I travel.
Nothing invalidates your reporting skills like repeatedly saying "plug-in EV" which isn't even a thing. So common on these stories that the reporter is clueless...
It never slowed Tesla. They average over 20 charging stalls installed PER WEEK. And they plan to be at 30 plus per week by the end of this year. And over 50 per week by the end of 2025.
And for anyone ready this who has never looked it up, search the web for the Tesla supercharger map. You will see that there are Superchargers already everywhere in the US. And they have a 99.96% reliability rate. And with them opening up their network this year in stages, charger anxiety will disappear, just like it disappeared for Tesla drivers years ago. This is the biggest thing that has happened to EVs since Tesla itself. By the way, "range anxiety" is something that only none EV drivers believe in.
RIP Tesla supercharger team
Why is there so much obsession with public charging stations? I've owned an EV for a while now and I almost never use public charging stations. Even before I had a proper charger installed in my driveway (I don't have a garage), I just used a wall outlet. My job let me just run a cord from their outdoor wall outlet as well.
The discussion should be about bringing home charging to more people. You don't need an expensive setup. Unless you're driving a significant distance every day to work, you just need a regular 120v plug. If you can run a toaster, you can charge an EV. Several people at my last apartment just ran a cord out their window.
I completely agree. Resources might be better spent encouraging ways for people who rent out live in condominium environments to have reliable access to level 2 charging.
5:09 It certainly sounds like you're attempting to influence the market here. The short answer is, no, the public charging infrastructure shouldn't dissuade people from buying an EV. Unlike gas cars, EVs can charge up at home or work every day, so EV owners wake up to a "full tank" most days. A majority of the time, public charging is a moot point.
Luckily, most people no longer follow mainstream media, and it's due primarily to stories like this. Clearly, that is the case because despite everything you've reported here, last year was a record for U.S. EV sales, even with an overall slowdown in the new car market (inflation, economic insecurity, record high interest rates, etc.).
Nothing about tesla and their amazing supercharging network ... of course.
They never mentioned Tesla in this. I live in Vegas and have traveled to parts of Arizona and California multiple times with out any issues finding charging spots. Most hotels include free charging if you self park. When I'm home, I never use charging stations because I charge at home. I could see if you live in an apartment or rent an EV other than a Tesla, It could be a problem.
Yeah, a deal breaking problem.
I have owned a Tesla for almost 3 years now and I haven’t used a charging station in 2 years and I live in a apartment complex I just decided to invest in 2 100 ft nema 14-50 level 2 extension cable for my apartment building that goes from my dryer outlet through the window and out my car, personally I find it more convenient to charge my car at night while I’m sleeping rather than going to a supercharger station
Buys a Tesla unless you can reliably charge at home - until the infrastructure is built out and fully functional.
Yes, 3rd party charging providers need to up their game, no question. The most promising solution is that Tesla will be allowing other EVs to use its Superchargers by the end of this year with plug adapters. That will make a huge difference!
I'm not a Tesla owner, but when I rented one in Houston last summer, every time I stopped at a charge station, it was a line to wait until you got to charge. Now with the Tesla network opening up, I think that's going to be unbearable, especially waiting in the hot summers like Houston where A/C is a must. If you are way down on your charge that can get stressful if you only have a few % left after a long drive.
It’s crazy how hardly any of these issues affect Tesla. If legacy car makers hadn’t been so busy lobbying and trying to cripple EV adoption, they could’ve moved to speed up the standardization of plugs and charging equipment. The fragmented network and unreliable chargers are their fault, now that it seems EVs aren’t going anywhere they need to work twice as hard to get things working.
Any story about how hard public charging is always involves some non Tesla. What if every story about the road conditions in America involved driving around on Forest Service roads?
Wrong. Tesla was frozen in chicago.
@@menkros1 You saw a news story from Chicago, but the same weekend I was using a supercharger in 5F degree weather without problems, and my car had no problem. It is likely that a few people ran their cars to practically zero and had a hard time charging. But not understanding how your car works is not the car's fault. That was a case of cherry picking for the story they wanted.
@@menkros1 Those involved rented Teslas by unfortunate and uneducated EV rideshare drivers that had no clue about EVs because they don't own any. They had no idea what battery preconditioning or even remote cabin preconditioning is.
And those were old V2 superchargers. EV works at all temperatures, even past 40 below. Look up Bjorn Nyland to see him using one at those temperatures in Norway.
@@menkros1 nothing can be 100% operational all of the time. Tesla has a 99.99 rating of viable charging stations. You obviously don't drive an EV.
The biggest problem with the EV network currently is its fragmentation and presentation. Public EV chargers should work just like standard fuel pumps with respect to payment. You should be able to use any credit card or debit card just as you would a fuel pump to pay for a charge regardless of who owns the charger. You shouldn't have to use an app or log in to an account.
One other factor holding back public EV charging is the lack of buy-in from businesses particularly gas stations. That may come down to economics. A single fuel pump can service many more vehicles than a charge station. A single EV needs about 30 min to fully charge using DC fast charging. In that same time, one could fuel up at least 3-4 ICE vehicles at a higher profit per car.
And for other businesses that depend on frequent turnover of parking spaces for revenue, they would be very reluctant to tie up several spaces for charging vehicles unless they charge a premium on top of what the charging station company charges.
This fragmentation is because the federal government waited too long to step in and provide some direction and coordination. We're playing catch up in this regard.
But it's very important to note that DC fast charging is really a very small part of what is needed. It is only really relevant to long distance driving.
The principal solution for EV charging for the 40% of people without home charging, is level 2 charging everywhere. Every grocery store, shopping center, sports field and movie complex. Every municipal building and college campus. Every apartment building. In the long term, pretty much every parking lot with more than 10 spaces. This way, wherever you go, you can plug in and recoup the miles it took to get there.
Level 2 chargers take a small fraction of the time and resources to install compared to DC fast chargers. Any light pole can (and should) get a charging outlet.
Eventually, this will be obvious to everyone. It will be like having a 110v outlet in each room.
Costco's rolling out of program to put in EV chargers and Walmart just announced their building their own brand of fast chargers at over 650 locations. It had to start somewhere. Now that the snowball is rolling it's just going to get faster and faster
Didn’t mention that 90-95% of charging happens at home. Too many people are comparing filling up an ice car to charging an ev. It’s not the same mind set. Diving an EV requires a change in habits, expectations and mindset. The psychological shift is likely to be the biggest hurdle for Americans.
There are a great many people who will not be able to charge at home. There are many places, California for example, where people live in apartments, and the only parking they have is on the street.
Anyone who lives in a single family house or duplex can charge at home.
@@UncommonSense1776This is key. Getting more charging options in apartments, etc is key.
Just shows you don't know what you talking about. Most EV owners cannot charge at home. On top of that, if you are an EV owner that's charging at home, your power bill is skyrocketed. Not to mention you're also causing more problems that we're trying to get away from by charging your electric car. If your car needs to be charged, you're part of the problem and you're killing the planet. Also, it's more toxic to build in electric car than a gas car so I don't know what y'all talking about. If we have more electric cars than gas cards on the road we're going to be in the same spot. We are now with more gas cards on the road than electric cars. Y'all people have not done any research nor have y'all done. The simple math to that clearly shows that electric cars are not safer for the environment. It's actually worse for the environment.
@@TaureanSmoke I'm sorry to break it to you, but your precious "research" is actually a bunch of lies that have been fed to you by the richest companies in the history of the world. If you did any actual research, you would know this.
You should make an effort to get information from people who are not political pundits and who haven't been funded by oil companies. If you listen to anyone who meets those criteria, they will tell you the exact opposite of what you've been hearing.
How about this. Instead of renting an EV to pretend you're someone qualified to report on the EV owning experience, buy and EV and live with it for a while. Then get back to us. Right now, most of the mainstream EV news reporting is coming from tourists.
I think there are many issues that's causing the slow rollout. The failure of the Electrify America project slowed progress in building a strong EV charging infrastructure; and the lack of a real standard for fast charging. Many auto makers are ditching CHAdeMO to adopted NACS for their vehicles in 2025, but with this change EV charging infrastructure projects that were in the works need to be delay to adopt the NACS fast charging standard. I think it won't be until 2035 or 2040 before the US have a wide and resilient EV charging infrastructure.
Noone except for Nissan was using CHAdeMO in the US. CCS was the standard for most automakers except for Tesla. Btw the plug isn't the issue, it's public underinvestment. Look to Europe, where the EU but also most countries invest in public infrastructure now for 5-10 years. There are far less issues. Germany alone is investing up to two billon USD (1.8 billion €) over the next years building out a next stage of charging infrastructure in rural areas called "Deutschlandnetz" or Germany network/grid.
Hank is correct. The only reason we don't have more charging infrastructure is we didn't invest in it sooner.
The good news is, several rounds of substantial funding have been approved by Congress over the last few years, and they are starting to bear fruit right now.
EV charging is being installed at a very quick pace, all across the country. Several new charging networks are being rolled out this year (some began a few months ago). Networks hosted by major chains like Walmart, Flying J, Circle K, Simon Malls and several others. And networks sponsored by individual OEMs like Mercedes, GM and Rivian. And new ventures formed by several OEMs together.
All of these ventures are primarily privately funded. But some of them will also take advantage of the federal funds.
Walter at the Network Architect Channel is doing a great job of chronicling these developments.
The Mach-e Vlog channel just posted an interview with the bosses of Blink network. There they discuss the need for level 2 charging, the huge opportunity Blink sees going forward, and the differences between people's perceived needs (mega chargers - i.e. bigger is better), and what works best in actual practice (i.e. - convenient level 2 charging so that everywhere you go, you can recoup the miles it took to get there).
I took a 1200 mile road trip last month in my Nissan LEAF. Almost all fast charging was at Electrify America. No problems with their credit card readers or Chadmo chargers. So far as NACS, I say bring it on. As NACS becomes the norm, I and other non-NACS cars will use adapters. I already have a working adapter for Tesla destination, so I can charge Level 2 at any J1772 or Tesla destination. Right now EA is putting 1 Chademo at all locations. EVgo usually has 2 Chademo at each location, Chargepoint also usually has Chademo, so right now I don't need a Chademo adapter.
@@timothystockman7533 I read a long time ago that Chademo was very reliable and worked well. It's good to know that's still the case.
A lot of people will be dipping into the EV experience by picking up old used Leafs.
I'm stumped how there’s a new report discussing an already antiquated charging standard. One of the major reasons people are gravitating toward NACS (North American Charging Standard, akin to Tesla charging) is its widespread availability and reliability. However, this report seems to echo the issues we’ve been aware of for some time. Why focus on a broken system that everyone is fed up with and moving away from? CBS, consider hiring reporters who recognize that the EV landscape in 2024 and beyond will be vastly different for EV owners. As for those public destination chargers, they’re primarily for convenience during shopping trips. Most of us charge our EVs at home, unless we’re dealing with older models that have limited range. It’s 2024-scrap this outdated report! 🚗🔌🌟
I wish I could like this comment multiple times.
Interesting that the report makes no reference to Tesla and the Supercharging network. I’ve owned a Tesla for over three years and have never had an issue with charging my vehicle when I travel between Denver and Phoenix. Many of the legacy car manufacturers are switching to the NACS (Tesla plug) which will allow non-Tesla owners to use the Supercharging network.
Charpoint chargers are already the biggest infrastructure out there, but imagine if they could charge even faster! Upgrading to higher kilowatt charging and expanding their network would be a game-changer! 🔋💨
Meanwhile, in Sweden, they just unveiled a highway that recharges electric vehicles as they are driven. Power on the go. And we're whining about charging stations. Our trains barely make 100 mph. Japan and Europe have trains that go almost three times as fast. But, by all means, keep blindly chanting "we're number one!"
not sure we want a train going 300 mph in usa
Rushing into things isn’t always good. Europe rail is good but the newer Japanese or Chinese rails are superior (safer, faster, and cheaper). I’m personally waiting on solid state batteries (half the battery size with double the range) before jumping into EVs. Also waiting on NACS but that’s coming pretty soon.
Freight vs passenger rail is not comparable. The US has the beat freight rail in the world
I saw an expert testify in congress that even if we turned all our vehicles inot electric vehicles it would only lower the co2 by a less than 0.2% or something minute. Meanwhile, we go broke.
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I have a 2013 Tesla with 172,000 miles. I have road tripped flawlessly all over the country. Please tell people that Tesla has it nailed and the other companies are so far behind.
never happened
I only have 27k miles on my 2023 but I've also had no problems, even with ~1000 mile road trips.
@@jazziez6467what motivation do you have to deny it?
petrol sniffers losing it 🤣🤣🤣@@jazziez6467
Putting level two chargers on street Lampost is actually a great idea. How come no other city does this?
That is for smart countries
4:40 Please be a little more comprehensive in your reporting. Yes, only four NEVI-funded sites have been brought online as of Feb 2024, two years after the infrastructure bill was signed into law. However, that doesn't provide the entire picture. A year or more of that time was spent in planning and rule making, meaning those four sites have really gone from initial site planning to being open to the public in less than a year.
More importantly, NEVI funding is only a small aspect of the EV charging infrastructure growth. GM, Mercedes, and even Walmart have funded the EV charging build out to the point that nearly one new charging station has come online every day over the last three to four months. While those sites meet or exceed NEVI standards, they don't fall under NEVI funding. So in very real terms, the EV charging infrastructure is being built out 10 to 20 times faster than what you're attempting to present in this video.
What's really sad is, I'm not even counting Electrify America or Tesla's build out in those totals. As an EV and charging infrastructure expert, I would give this report a "Pants on Fire" Snopes rating.
The standard going forward is the NACS plug. Any new charging stations need to have that connector. There will be a need for CCS or adapters for a while but the target should be to get all the stations to the new standard. We also need signage. We have public information sighs for Food, Lodging, Gas, etc. But I have not seen EV charging signs on highways even in places they exist. The stations also need everything gas stations have now. Food, drinks, bathrooms, washer fluid, air pumps for tires, well lit with signs by the highway. Most gas stations don't make enough on gas to exist and we should expect chargers to be the same way in time. They need stores. Also, 15% of gas buyers pay in cash. What are they going to do?
That's why I drive a Tesla. Fantastic charging network. None of that nonsense from other companies.
Tesla stations broke down during freezes.
@@blackout07blue one station did, in the entire country, for 4 hours.
@@blackout07blue The arctic blast effected 80% of the country; all the news outlets covered a single down charger in Chicago :P
@@blackout07blue I charged during the deep freeze in Chicago at two separate superchargers and chargers were working fine. You just blatantly run your mouth about something you have no experience in.
@@blackout07blueI drove my Model Y through 5F degree temps for a 300 drive no problem just last month. Oil companies would love to blanket you with any misinformation they could but honestly Teslas are fine in the winter.
This is crucial that we get this done, the noise level of cars and motorcycles is getting out of hand as the world population increases.
EV lease costs and residuals are now both very bad. Hence move to hybrids.
Tesla has the best charging infrastructure, which has taken ten years to build out world wide. This is why Tesla sales demand is still stronger over other EV manufacturers.
This is a hit piece on Tesla by not mentioning them or their charging network. Tesla is doing fine and that includes building out their network.
What do you expect from EA? They were a product of VW's diesel gate.
I don't know the percentage of people that charge from home, but this stat can't be understated. Not everyone can charge from home though.
Why don't we just put the cords on the cars individually instead of the charger itself. I still don't know why we are so used to the gas pump design when it sucks with electronics.
In California, landlords and HOAs are required to accept any tenant's written request to install charging equipment for their own use. The law also states that tenants must pay additional electrical costs, which may be added to their rent.
Message your governor, ask them to do this
Charging off light poles poses even more risks, a really bad idea...
Why didn't they make power cords like a USB cords? No worry about cur cable theft and it won't matter what car you have as long as it plugs into the charger.
Charge at your house
Oh, so confusing, & who has 20 seconds in their day for that.
They are all "Plug In" EV's. He was speaking about PHEV's but didn't know the term.
Norway is going to be selling 100% EVs by 2025 (they are already at 80% EVs) and the US still can't figure this out. Granted, we're orders of magnitude larger and Americans would rather look cool and spend $500/month on gas than drive a quiet electric car, but still it's a bit embarrassing to see people still choosing gas when EVs are better in pretty much every category. When you can charge at home, it's a game-changer. And in 2025 when every new vehicle is on NACS and the Supercharger network, things should improve even more.
That's nice. I rather buy a gently used 3 year old used crew crab 4x4 truck for $35k versus a tiny electric car for the same price if not significantly more. My family and I feel safer in our larger vehicles that get upwards of 500 miles on a tank of gas with a quick 5 minute gas station fill up. We also take frequent road trips and are not going to deal with hour + charging times while on them. Fast charging also isn't free and is actually fairly expensive.
@@pinballmountain6321funny you have to compare a used truck to a brand new EV for it to even make the slightest sense . like he said, most Americans are okay spending $500 a month on gasoline for their image.
Are you saying Norway is also going with the NACS connector as well on all new vehicles?
New tech roll out would never be possible without hiccups and bumps along the road and that's just a fact. The main thing is that it's going in the right direction, albeit slow in some cases. I also wish the nay sayers and haters would refrain from destroying public charging infrastructure. If you listen to the noise of the market, you will never be able to buy what you need. Do what works for you and strive to be happy - Electric or gas.
Had the reporter rented a Tesla and used the Supercharger network, chances are this story would've been boring because it just works. So of course they have to go with non-Tesla charging and EVs in order to make up something that might be remotely interesting to most people.
I've taken my Model Y to various US National Parks such as Death Valley, Yellowstone, Rocky Mountain, Great Smoky Mountains, Grand Canyon, and have even driven it around Lake Michigan. All made possible thanks to the Superchargers. Very rare that I ran into any that didn't work, and if it didn't, there was always another one I could try. In some cases I even saw a technician fixing broken ones while I was charging nearby at a working stall.
They also make it as user friendly as possible. The car will add superchargers along the way on your trip, and will tell you how long to charge for to continue your trip for those who don't want to take chances. It will also take temperature, elevation, and windspeed into account as it doesn't want to get stranded any more than you would. In some cases, if your supercharger destination is busy, it will even reroute you while you're on your way to a less busy one along the same route. If it can't, it will at least warn you that said supercharger is experiencing wait times.
More experienced Tesla drivers can speed this up considerably via "Supercharger hopping" where you charge just enough to reach the next supercharger at around 5-10% battery, then immediately head out instead of waiting another 15-20 minutes. Though you have to make more stops, your overall travel is faster because you're spending less time at each supercharger stop than if you deep charged at one since EV's charge faster when the battery is low.
Little things like this is why almost every automaker has announced that they're switching to using Tesla's Superchargers. The other non-Tesla DC fast charging stations are largely unreliable due to being broken much of the time, or it gets really busy because they don't have enough charging stations for the amount of EV's needing a charge. While Tesla also has wait times at busier places, they are constantly expanding and opening new superchargers to alleviate the load and give Tesla drivers more options on where to charge.
Soon most other EV's will have very similar options as well as their particular EV's are allowed access to Superchargers.
As always, these reports leave out the MAJOR difference between Tesla Vehicles & Chargers vs the others. There is VAST difference in reliability in chargers and speed. Tesla vehicles communicate with their chargers so you know if they work and if they are available or not - before you leave for your destination. Other car makers don't have charging networks. they rely on third parties, that aren't so good and don't have good communication.t
And my state won’t even let contracts until 2025. The capital city has an Electrify America charging station that has been completed except for the final electrical connection since June 2023.
I notice more car washes going up than charging stations. doesn't it take like a 30 minutes to charge the thing. I figure you can have some super clean windshield with that kind of time. In the full service charging lane is there some old dude cleaning your windshield super slow?
They make charging an EV look like the "before" from an infomercial, I guess I'm just a genius. Do you like buying gas, oil changes, timing belt change, also time and money
EV's make great cars. Better than ICE cars in almost every way. But the public charging network, which is already good if you include Tesla, needs to get better at a faster rate.
Every way but price, bad for environment, freedom, road trips 😂
@@B86432Teslas are easy to take on road trips, and you can get a Model Y for less than a new RAV4, considering ridiculous dealer markups.
@@B86432wrong on everything
petrol sniffers losing it 🤣🤣🤣@@B86432
@@B86432You should get your news from people who are not on the oil company payroll.
The main reason people give for driving EVs is that in the long run it saves them money.
Another reason why EV drivers love their cars and never go back to ICE is that it frees them up from going out of their way to gas stations during 5 o'clock traffic. It saves a ton of time, as long as you have home charging.
When Tesla drivers take road trips, they find driving an EV far less stressful. And the trip doesn't take any longer, because they just charge when they need to take breaks.
The environmental impact of the oil industry is like a HUNDRED TIMES worse than EVs could ever be. The spills, leaking, leaching, flaring and dumping goes on endlessly. And these materials are WAY more toxic than anything in an EV battery.
Wells run dry so more have to be drilled every year, year after year, forever. Meanwhile, every EV battery will be recycled.
There are several companies recycling EV batteries now, but they'll have to wait another 20 years to get up to speed, because that's how long the batteries last. Right now they have to make do with scraps left over from the manufacturing process, and phone and laptop batteries.
Gas pumps have a 99 percent up time
" COME ON MAN " tell the truth , " Ramping Down a Little Bit ' That's a Big Fat Lie ,
The Dealers want NONE .
You gave the job of expanding EV charging infrastructure to the government. Their top priorities are DEI and benefits packages for workers, acutally getting stuff done doesn't matter. They will just demand more money when they fail.
1:44 Imagine the outrage if 35% of gas pumps were out of order, in any US city? DOT needs to do its job and get busy fixing this unholy mess.
Really hoping that there will be EV fast furious movies very soon into future. Wow. Don Quixote and.Sancho Panza.😅😅😅😅😅😅
I have a Tesla and in my five years, I’ve never used a ev charger. I have one at home….
This is fake news... rent a tesla and stop comparing garbage cans to the future of transportation.
Even Musk has given up on public charging. He now knows that all EV charging in the future will be done at home.
The best chargers are Tesla supecharger. Always working.
Need to figure out how to create franchise for EV chargers so someone can make a profit. The lure of money will speed up the creation of charging stations.
If you hv to rely on public charging, then EV may not be for you right now. Charge at home to get the full benefits.
Tesla. Left out the main player. 😢
At this point, hybrids are the way to go. The EV technology is just not there yet for my money.
While carmakers are ramping up their rollouts of electric vehicles? what?
What planet are you living on...? Here on Earth the EV market has predictably crashed, due to buyers realising they have been deceived about EVs in every single way... The dealers cannot sell them, so the manufacturers are halting production lines
How hard is it to make a reliable charger?
It’s not. Tesla solved this. These are non Tesla companies that have flopped.
not hard. By now we would've had chargers capable of charging every EV in every corner if they all used the same plugs. It's a step forward switching to NACS standard just like how Apple switched from lightning to USB-C on their iPhones.
Slow roll out of slow charging stations.
The term is "Plug-in hybrids" not "Plug-in EVs". Get your terminology right or I can't take you seriously.
$5B in federal funds for EV station, and to date, only 8 new EV stations have been built on this program. American tax-payer getting the shaft, again.
They are slowing down production.....nice try though.....NO one is buying them......
It was interesting that when David Schecter was asked whether the lack of an adequate public charging network was holding back EV sales, he chose to not answer that directly, instead replying that automakers are shifting some production from EVs to more plug-in hybrid and regular hybrid vehicles. The answer should have been "Yes," (along with EV cost) and that it will be years before there is a public charging network of adequate number and - hopefully - greater reliability to accommodate the growing number of EVs. We are nowhere near that, yet.
I love my hybrid, and I will stick with hybrids until they figure out charger availability and speed of the charger. Cars aren't the only impact on the environment. There will still be an issue beyond the car.
I love my Chevy Volt for that very reason.
0:42 More like.... More Electric Vehicles, more damage done to the planet through aggressive mining operations somewhere else...
Ha , Ha , Looks like Self Service is going away , Now they will have to pay an attendent .
At Least $50 Dollars an Hour per Attendent , time how many Attendents ?
The lack of understanding in this reporting is funny/not funny. Charge at home. I live in an apartment and we have level 2 chargers. It's not that hard.
Ev sales are avtually going down. U guys are all hype.
Charging stations don't work without huge supplies of electricity...bad joke on America from Biden
Its more like a "roll OVER"! Bwa ha ha!
28% of even San Francisco's chargers are failing at any time. 35% of Miami's chargers are offline. AS much as Americans drive day and night everywhere we just don't have the patience for bankrupted EV Charging here when it's freaking 24° parked on the street. When we get off work we don't want to spend the next hour at EVgo topping off to 80% battery for the next day. If EVgo even works.
.....charge at home? Like 90-95% of EV owners?
I think you've misunderstood these numbers. But it's true that the CCS networks have room for improvement.
In the meantime, Tesla chargers have better than 97% uptime. Tesla drivers do not have any of these problems.
And most EV owners charge at home. Those DC fast chargers are only relevant for long distance travel.
What will be needed for those who don't have home charging, is level 2 charging everywhere. Level 2 chargers are cheap and quick to install. They can, and eventually will, be installed at every grocery store, every shopping center, every sports field, every movie complex, and most workplaces. You park and plug in, and recoup the miles it took to get there.
It will be like having a 110v outlet in every room. Eventually, it will just be obvious to everyone.
@@DainPhillipz Home has no garage parking -like many millions of Americans parking on the street. Good grief.
@@davidmenasco5743 I think you don't understand America. The answer isn't "hey go charge at home" or "just buy a Tesla" -when many homes don't have garages and we're often not home.
Many of us want something built better than a Tesla regardless.
It's not about what's coming.
It's about the here and now how electric vehicle charging is intolerable for the majority. Today.
@@lawrencefearon6830 Your "today" is already yesterday.
Many people start thinking about a new car purchase years in advance, and they think about what it will mean for them in the long term.
For those people, "today" really isn't relevant. What's important is how they will be able to use the car when they get it, and for the several years that they plan to have it.
Level 2 charging around town needs to expand rapidly. And as a matter of fact, it is expanding rapidly. In two years, it will be way more abundant than it is now. And that's relevant for a lot of people.
Yes, it's a shame that things weren't better planned so that the infrastructure would be in place NOW. But that's water under the bridge.
The question is what are we doing about it now? What we're doing is, putting in hundreds of level 2 chargers every month. That's good news.
Made in Jyna.
Tesla EVs sold in the US are made in California and Texas. They the most American made cars on the market (except maybe one model from Honda).
free copper lol
Have republicans done anything useful this century? Can anyone name one real thing?
Put America first. 🤷🏿♂️
@@JamarcusRobinson154 There's a better chance you had no dad growing up than you able to name a one tangible example.
@@gringoboy701 you did what with your mom and auntie in your trailer? That’s weird.
Yes, they have kept Democrats out of office most of the time.
@@JamarcusRobinson154 nope, definitely not that
What about all the hazardous materials dug up out of the and they're charged up with coal
Lol what
They are charged with whatever can make electricity. Not much electricity in America is made with coal. I guess you'd rather be petting your car with gasoline, priced at the whims of Middle Eastern stability and dictators from places like Russia and Venezuela.
What about it? Still comes out to less emissions net
Dude, nothing in an EV battery is even 10% as hazardous as the petroleum products used to create gasoline.
And the spills, leaks, leaching, flaring and dumping from the oil industry create a catastrophic level of environmental hazard a hundred times worse than EV mining could ever hope to achieve.
And I guess you missed the memo. Coal is by far the most expensive way to generate electricity. What does this mean? It means bye bye coal. And gas too.
In 25 years, there will be no coal power plants outside of Asia. And in 40 years, there will be no coal plants at all.
Government should get out of EV charging business and maybe they would be far more successful as gas stations were never government.
actually, gas stations really benefited from government standardization and regulation. also their tax incentives and all the indirect infrastructure that was built which supported them
Everything about how gas cars work today was shaped by government policies, which included many hundreds of billions of dollars of investments and subsidies and giveaways.
It's a history that people don't talk about, so it's easy not to think about it. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen. And it's still happening. Even the bills that are partially funding the rollout of EV chargers, also included massive giveaways to oil companies.
Every allowance made for any technology other than BEV, and there are many in the bills - almost half the total funds - these are funds going to oil companies.
#ButtigiegFailure
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Those level 2 free chargers could take 14 hours or more to charge a full electric vehicle. So, how is this of any help to someone who needs to" fill up" on the road?
That's not what Level 2 chargers are for. Level 3 is for rapidly filling up while on the road. Using Level 3 charging to top off after your daily commute is overkill, like trying to water your garden with a fire hose. Level 2 is for charging while the vehicle is parked overnight or at work. Rather than driving until empty and charging all the way to full once a week like you would with an ICE car, you can hit a level 2 for a quick top off every 1-2 days while the car is parked and always have a full tank.
The public level 2 chargers are for people who park on the street or in parking garages and just need to replenish the ~40 miles used in their daily commutes, which is 99% of driving. That's why you see level 3 chargers at highway stops and level 2s in homes, garages, and on city streets.
The EV transition is going to involve a whole different way of looking at driving and refueling. It's just different from the old way.
Fast charging is only relevant for long distance travel, like trips over 150 miles.
For the day to day driving there will be two different ways:
1) If you have a garage or driveway, or dedicated space at your apartment, you plug in overnight and start every morning with a full charge. You never waste time at gas stations refueling.
2) If you don't have a place to charge overnight (this is up to 40% of drivers), you will use the charging infrastructure, that will essentially consist of level 2 chargers everywhere. Every grocery store, every shopping center, every sports field, every movie complex, every college campus, etc. etc. And most workplaces. All these places will have level 2 chargers. And what you will do is plug in and recoup the miles it took to get there.
It will be like having a 110v outlet in every room.
It's going to take some time for all of this to sink in and for the chargers to get installed. But there are a lot of companies already working on it, and the rollout is about to accelerate so fast, it's going to make people's head spin.
One hour+ to charge. 😂
That costs as much as it does to fill a car up w gas in 2 mins 😂
I can charge my electric car from 5%-90% in 20 minutes on a level 3 charge besides I can charge at home overnight every day . I have zero problems
@@Mxtra195I love how nice it is to get home, plug in my car, and see that it’s full in the morning. I haven’t been to a gas station in ages. It’s crazy how hard people have to convince themselves their gas cars don’t suck.
@@Mxtra195I have the same experience. These guys just don't realize how easy it is with today tech. They don't realize it, but their next car will probably be an EV once they see how easy it is
Only if credit card readers don't fail all the time and forcing you to use the app.
Bank failers fdic 250 000 insured.
Problems up with the 12,000 battery pack replacement within 4 to 5 years. Electric cars weigh twice as much as their gas counterpart and go right through rails on the highway. Insurance companies are you going to borrow you from house insurance or make you park out of your garage because of the fire hazard. And everybody knows how well they perform in any weather at below freezing
Google Norway EV adoption. They’ve mostly switched to EVs. There aren’t any widespread battery replacement issues, EV fires, or problems with EVs breaking down during their harsh winters. These are nonissues with any modern electric car.
Apparently YOU don't know how they perform below freezing. I live in Minnesota & have zero issues in winter!
I'm sorry to break it to you. But you've been fed a bunch of lies, by the richest companies in the history of the world.
On each point you've made, the opposite is actually true. EV batteries last 20 years. EV fires are not a thing, but actually gas car fires are way way more frequent than you've been led to believe. And EVs work better in the cold than ICE cars.
The auto market in Norway has been over 80 percent EV for over three years. And the sky is not falling in Norway. They are saving a ton of money on fuel and maintenance, and will never go back.
Wrong, wrong. All US EV batteries are warranteed at least 8years, 100-120k miles, but current batteries should last almost 500k miles. There are many Teslas 10+yrs old and 500k miles.
My Model3 EV sedan only weighs slightly more (3600-4000lbs) than my Camry (~3500lbs), about the same as BMW 3 series. (Big-battery truck EVs do weight more, yes.)
EVs catch fire LESS frequently than gas cars. Some fires causing garage bans were for specific (replaced) Chevy Bolts etc w/ battery defects, just like those Samsung tablets banned from planes for a while; not a thing any more when they fixed the defect.
They do lose range in freezing temps, but otherwise they perform well.
Federal government ruins another thing.
Wut? Lol. How have they ruined anything on this topic?
Maybe it's the trillions they have spent on helping oil companies. Those are subsides that you're paying to huge corporations.
Gas pumps for light passenger vehicles can deliver about 10 US gallons per minute, and they are ubiquitous. It takes one minute to fill our Toyota hybrid from empty, and I don't need a stupid phone app to do it.
If EVs are so great, why do the climate hysterics have to ban alternatives?
Waste of money!
only if you can’t keep it charged.
Why? I’m about to buy one in a few weeks with that IRA used EV tax credit 🙏🏻
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@@JamarcusRobinson154 cope lol.
ICE powered cars don't have this problem, don't see why biofuels can't be part of a greener future for motorists
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The reason why biofuels can't be part of a "greener future" is because
1) They don't solve the problem of greenhouse gas emissions.
2) They create a whole new problem because they compete for cropland which is needed to grow food.
And yeah, ICE cars have a whole other problem, which is the greenhouse gas emissions, that are causing climate change, that is causing serious issues all over the world.
97% charger reliability 😂😂 sounds like the payout percentage from a casino.
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Electric cars do not reduce pollution, they just create it somewhere else.
They reduce the increase? ;)
That's right. The claims of a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions is a major scam perpetrated upon the motoring public.
It all depends on where the electricity comes from. Now, the vast majority of electric cars are powered by electricity from fossil fuels, defeating the main purpose. Lol
@@blackout07blue No, the efficiency actually make up for that even in dirty grids. In cleaner grids its even better.
@@blackout07bluenatural gas is a fossil fuel but does not contribute greatly to carbon in the atmosphere. Coal is the target and is only 37% worldwide and is more expensive than solar.
Nothing like waiting in line to charge your car for 30-50 minutes. You better have a lot of patience and time on your hands to own an electric car. They don’t go far enough and take forever to charge. Hence the reason after two years of ownership I sold my electric BMW and went to a high MPG Mercedes. The charging has a long way to go. They need to have at least two fast chargers at every gas station before I go electric again. Plus when I get 550 miles to a tank of fuel and can fill up anywhere within 5 minutes compared to 200-250 miles for a 30-50 minute charge, it’s a no brainer
unless a persons lifestyle is constant roadtrips or a commute longer than 250-300 miles per day, an ev makes the most sense for most americans. you can just plug in your car when you get home and it’s fully charged in the morning. no need to sit and wait like you do at a gas station. and if you’ve got a modern car, it’ll fast charge in 10-25 minutes on an occasional roadtrip, plenty of time to get out and stretch, use the bathroom, get some food.
sorry it didn’t work for you though, i can’t see myself ever driving a gas car again, too used to the convenience
If you charge at home you hardly would ever have to charge away except on road trips. Most EVs have 250+ range, which gives you easily 160+ miles to drive each day after you charge overnight. Maybe you had any early EV like an i3, it's just unfortunate that most non Tesla cars have been weak, B team efforts by their manufacturers.
Getting there. Aptera has a 1000 mile range coming in next few years and Ioniq 6 currently has 360 miles range and charges in 18 minutes.
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I do have a lot of time on my hands since I charge at home overnight and never have to go to a gas station.
Lol EV is dying
technology just isn’t quite there yet in terms of batteries, stations, etc.
I’m about to buy one myself in a few weeks
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@@nou7401 nope no one wants those POS’S
Go do in a few in a few fold from Chile 🇨🇱 for some lithium
And you care about people
Grifter technology that’s all it is
@@blackout07blue technology will never be there
They are killing people in Chile for the lithium as we speak
Hydrogen will be the way not EV
Hybrids are the answer
85% of society doesn't want one ever 😂
You won’t have a choice.
@@EshockT how to destroy a 1st world country 101
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@@EshockT When they set a goal for 2035 they aren't serious. They are already walking back the rules. But EV prices are falling and the vehicles are better than ICE vehicles. Biden's fear now is that ICE demand will collapse in the face the superior EVs. That may mean that older manufacturers will fold under the pressure. I am sure Americans, EV owner or not, want a world where the major auto manufacturers are Chinese, but we are heading into a world where Tesla, BYD, and probably a few other Chinese companies are the main manufacturers. 10 years into making Bolts and GM is still not taking EVs seriously. Ford is missing the game, and Stellantis has few EVs, none in the US.
if I was a stup!d I'd definitely buy one
If you were smart you mean? You can get Tesla’s in the mid $20k’s right now with 300 mile ranges and a $4k fed tax credit, all while saving money by not having to buy gas. Sigh
@coreyleander7911 did you watch the video lol? relying on other people and a power grid to be able to navigate is a silly idea.
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@@runna9647 so relying on the Middle East and a finite amount of oil on earth is smarter?
Woke cars; woke problems
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Woke? Are you serious? The best EV company in America is headed up by Elon Musk lol.
myth it reduces greenhouse gas all you do is offset the carbon emmison to a powerplant, we still use fossel fuels to mine, transport and all the way to end consumer is fossiel fuels, to maintain the car cost fossiel fuels,
Perhaps you haven't heard, but not all electricity in the US is made with coal and natural gas. Actually, only 60% is made with fossil fuels. However, even if all the electricity was made with coal, electric cars would still be more efficient. Electric motors are just so much more efficient than internal combustion engines could ever be.
That is true only if you believe the myth that fossil fuels are and always will be used to generate all electricity. In California, over 55% of electricity is generated from renewables, and the percent is increasing. China installed more solar generation last year than the rest of the world combined. In some cities, you can pay a bit extra to have all of your electricity come from renewables.
Your carbon footprint does vary. If you live in the northwest, a lot of electricity comes from hydroelectric and nuclear. One advantage of electric is it is agnostic with respect to power sources. An ICE vehicle will always consumes fossil fuels - gasoline or diesel. An EV can potentially be powered by non fossil fuel sources simply by retooling the power grid by bringing nuclear, solar, and wind plants online and shutting down coal plants and keeping some natural gas for baseband load.
You've had your head filled with FUD and misinformation.
Due to their higher efficiency, EVs are far better for the environment than ICE vehicles. Many studies have shown this. Even when the grid is 100% coal.
On top of this the grid is rapidly transitioning away from fossil fuels. The cost of wind and solar has come down so low, it is cheaper than fueling and maintaining existing gas or coal power plants.
So EVs get greener every year. And in 20 years, the grid will be close to 100% non-fossil fueled.
Weeks, days or hours to charge an EV. What a scam. 120 volt or 240 volt or a few DC fast chargers that are only public. And when an EV bricks... check that out.
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Miguel Sangalang,bureau of street lighting. Just read it again. And now stop laughing. Miguel the street lamp.
Mellisa Lot . EV charger expert? She is a women at first and then where she gain her expertise over the short period of the time EVs are around. Give me a break. Expert. Yeaaaahhhh.