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Talavya sa ,dant sa,murdant sa.these are three sa teached by my grandfather. 1.Talavya sa means upper part of mouth when touched by tongue first sa is pronounced .2 dant sa means when tongue touch the teeth second sa is pronounced.3 murdant sa is pronounced when tongue is slightly turned downward and sa is pronounced.
Because duolingo doesn't teach you anything. Buy a Hindi textbook and use it. That will help more than Duolingo. Also, find a native speaker of Hindi who can talk to you in Hindi fluently, so that you can get in actual Hindi practice and perhaps learn some more "slang-y" terms and constructions which might not be in a textbook.
Almost all Indian languages are sound based and perfect in their own sense. Comparing , debating and arguing one over other is futile. We should be proud of all of them!
In Malayalam, that child crying sound is used perfectly - nja (spelt almost like nya). Most of the sounds are there in Malayalam, retained from Sanskrit-Old Tamil.
Looks like in this particular subject, you were not really taught in your childhood the right way which are basic things we learnt. So now that you realized it became mind blowing.
After Sanskrit, in Indian languages Kannada is most classic language, resembling to Sanskrit. It's script also most beautiful among world languages. In Kannada what pronounces that will be exactly written without any exceptions, this can not happen in few languages. Hence it is called as " QUEEN " of all languages in the world.
Kannada has the greatest number of alphabets than any Indian Languages. Any Indian word can be written and pronounced in Kannada exactly the same way it is pronounced in native Indian language.
@@sunilzizou Sanskrit does not have its own script. It uses Devanagari script. Devanagari script was used by Pali and Prakrut language in North India. English language uses Latin alphabets. Similarly, Sanskrit uses Devanagari alphabets. Sanskrit is not the mother of other Indian languages as it is being narrated.
@@gopil6740 Not kannada , it is malayalam that contains all letters from sanskrit as well as tamil . Kannada doesnt have the letter ZHA and the short U pronounciations as in tamil.
Sanskrit does not have its own script. It uses Devanagari script. Devanagari script was used by Pali and Prakrut language in the North India. English language uses Latin alphabets. Similarly, Sanskrit uses Devanagari alphabets. Sanskrit is not the mother of other Indian languages as being narrated.
Basically only two languages originally originated from India, and from those two languages all the languages in the world developed those are Sanskrit and Tamil ( both are my favorites) but tamil is little older , all souther part languages originated from tamil and all bortherypart of india language originated from Sanskrit
Indian languages are sound based languages that's why ancient indians kept the knowledge intact as it is by remembering the sound patterns. And that's why in hindu dharm recital and pronunciation of mantras are important. We are proud of our ancient culture. they were so scientific. The world knows about mathematical power of ancient indians.
ळ exists in Sanskrth as rightly said, but only in Vedic Sanskrth, not in spoken Sanskrth. ळ exists in all South Indian languages - Kannada, Tulu, Konkani, Kodava, Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam & in Marathi.
@@10ssr as an odia We do have ଳ/ळ/Ịa in both of our script and vocabulary.... Even it's the most important letter in odia, and a part of our cultural identity... Like it's ଉତ୍କଳ/उत्कळ/UtkaỊa✅ ଉତ୍କଲ /उत्कल /Utkal❌ କଳିଙ୍ଗ/कळिन्ग/KaỊinga✅ କଲିଂଗ/कलिंग/Kaling❌ But morden roman/English don't have these letters... So, we r forced to write it as La instead of Ḷa
This was where my Khmer language originated from Sanskrit from Northern India. Used to written on the Angkor Walls. The same sounds but more like Telugu written form.🥰🥰 I tried to make connection to where the origin of the linguistic of my Khmer alphabetic came from. Now, I am more enlightened that Sanskrit was our based mother tongue. Beautiful! 👏Thank you for making the sounds of the Sanskrit for me to hear.🙏
On my trip to Angkor I bought a T shirt with Khmer letters, when I read them aloud, the girl selling them was flabbergasted, it was brahmi also on which my mother tongue Telugu script is based
@@skarumuru Thank you for clarifying what I have been curious about and searched for the origin of my Khmer Language came from...the linguistic of its root. I knew it in my heart but just need it to be factual. Greatly Appreciate it!
ळ exists in Sanskrth as rightly said, but only in Vedic Sanskrth, not in spoken Sanskrth. ळ exists in all South Indian languages - Kannada, Tulu, Konkani, Kodava, Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam & in Marathi.
ळ exists in Punjabi (ਲ਼), Marathi, Gujarati (ળ), Odiya (ଳ), Western Dailects of Hindi (Kauravi, Haryanavi, Panchali). ळ existed in Vedic Sanskrit as well as Chalit Sanskrit, extensively used in Apabhranshas. So, it is not unique to Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam and Kannada.
Nothing IS wrong with him. YOU, FOUND something wrong in him. I, FOUND the whole episode valuable as well as enjoyable. Why does seeking knowledge have to always be SERIOUS?
If someone irritates you, it is only your own response that is irritating you. Therefore, when anyone seems to be provoking you, remember that it is only your judgment of the incident that provokes you. - Epictetus
you can read devnagri script mostly everywhere in india . Devnagari means:The Devanagari script, composed of 47 primary characters including 14 vowels and 33 consonants, is the fourth most widely adopted writing system in the world, being used for over 120 languages. example: Apabhramsha, Awadhi, Bhili, Bhojpuri, Bodo, Braj, Chhattisgarhi, Dogri, Gujarati, Garhwali Haryanvi, Hindi, Hindustani, Kashmiri, Konkani,Kumaoni, Magahi, Maithili, Marathi, Marwari, Mundari, Newari, Nepali, Pāḷi, Pahari, Prakrit, Rajasthani, Sadri, Sanskrit, Santali, Saraiki, Sherpa, Sindhi, Surjapuri, and many more.
The R sound of kRishna is not there in Tamil as you were telling though.. In Tamil we write Krishna as "Kirushna" (K becomes Ki because according to Tamil grammar rules first letter of any word shouldn't start with a plain consonant sound, but while saying the "i" sound won't be stretched, it would be very subtle).. infact even 'sh','h','j','s' sound doesn't naturally exist in Tamil, they were later adopted into the script as "northern" letters after influence of sanskrit..highly suggest you to do a video on Tamil sounds and grammar too, would be really interesting
'h' sound belonging is subjective. Because I have heard many dialects in central and south TN which pronounce the nga as ha like varanga as vararha.. Dialect differences but still h is not foreign to tamil. g and h are somewhat replaceable. H letter is adopted from Sanskrit but not H sound
Why tamilian and Dravidian shouting in comment section...they not say anything about you language...they just respresenting and talking about there own language
I'm just 4 minutes into the video, but I'm loving it! I have for trying to explain these very things to people for years and years, because most of my own Indian friends have no idea why the sounds of our languages are arranged and written the way they are. When he put his hand on his voicebox, to explain unvoiced versus voiced consonants, I just knew this guy knows his stuff. This is exactly how I explain the difference. These concepts exist in other Indo-European languages too, but they are equally blind to these ideas until someone explains it to them. They explain why there's an N in coNtest, but an M in coMpound. N goes with T, and M goes with P. You see this clearly in the arrange of the Devanagari alphabet, but it is not at all obvious in the Latin script. Let me watch the rest of the video, and maybe I'll add more comments.
Tamil has this interesting classification as well. 1) Val inam - Hard group - ka, ca, ta, tha, pa & Ra(ற) --> 1st column of Devnagari; In Devnagari each of these letters have Chathurvarga(four variations). Tamil grammar says it comes from the air that hits the throat. 2) Mel inam - Soft group - nga, nya, Na, nha(ந), ma & na(ன) --> Last column of Devnagari; These letters are called Udanpadu mei aka letters that come in conjunction with Hard group letters respectively(Similar to what you explained in maNdal). Tamil grammar says it comes from the air that hits the nose tip(top of the nose between eyes). 3) Idai Inam - Intermediate group - ya, ra(ர), la(ல), va, zha(ழ), La(ள) --> Following row after the above classification of Devnagari. Tamil grammar says they are inbetween the hard and soft. In addition, we add another group - 4) Grantha letters (to represent Vadasol/ Northern words ie., Sanskrit) --> Next row in Devnagari sha(ஷ), Sha(ஶ), sa(ஸ), ha(ஹ) and also ja(ஜ - represents 3rd and 4th varga of cha), xa(க்ஷ-ksha), ஸ்ரீ (only for shree; no shra, shraa, shri, shru , shruu, shre, shrae, shrai, shro and all) In Tamil, the chathur varga is pronounced in its natural flow mostly when soft group letter adjoins with hard group letter. Examples: Anjanaa is a+ny+cha+naa (அ ஞ் ச னா) in Tamil. cha(ச) pronounced as ja(ஜ) here. Mandalam is ma+N+ta+la+m (ம ண் ட ல ம்)in Tamil. ta(ட) pronounced as da here There is lot lot more which I can explain. But I will stop here. The systems had similarities or common origins or in someway transactional of their methods. Note - Special letters in Tamil: 1) Ra(ற) 2) na(ன) - Difference exists in writing only. Pronunced same as ந(nha). 3) zha(ழ) 4) q(ஃ) pronunced as 'hh' - Aaytham; This is rarely used. But in modern day we find it useful to represent Persian Za and Pha in muslim names by simply adding ஃ in front of ja and pa respectivly. Example: Manzil is ma+n+ஃ(q)+ji+l. Fahadh is q(ஃ)+pa+ha+th.
Because Both Sanskrit & Tamil language grammar books quote "Ainthiram", a lost Tamil linguistic Grammar (not Tamil or any language grammar. It is a linguistic book) book from which both these languages took rules to write their own grammar.
ohh man...came here after reading your tweets on Devnagari script. Saw the topics of your other videos and immediately subscribed. 😊 Topics and titles are so interesting. Keep it up. 👍
You are forgetting that the classification is based the source from where the sound originates like कण्ठ्य, दन्त्य, तालव्य, मूर्धन्य, ओष्ठ्य. Also sub classification like कठोर and कोमल. While grouping two adjacent columns you could have mentioned this difference of कठोर, कोमल.
Sorry, in a video, we have to strike a balance about what is the right level of detail, and this got skipped. I is covered in the accompanying article: futureiq.substack.com/p/the-elegance-of-the-devanagari-script -@Navin
As a person who loves linguistics and scripts, this video is a MUST for people who have this same thirst for knowledge. When I first learnt these things, there was nobody to explain it in such a fun and intuitive way, and as you first learn the basics of linguistics, these things click in your head. More specifically, Devanagari is an alphasyllabary, the ultimate type of writing system (according to me). Thank you Dr. Navin, for bringing to light these things to more people. This stuff should be taught in schools, because it will make life for students easier instead of blindly learning.
00:33 I was taught well at home and I pronounce the sounds ङ & ञ perfectly well. However, the pronunciation of ऋ & क्ष has to be adapted according to the language spoken whether it is Marathi, Hindi, Nepali, Sindhi or Sanskrit.
Man, I so needed to know this. Thanks for these deep dive sessions. I can now better appreciate Indian languages, which was always so easier to write and read compared to foreign ones.
There is no native script for Sanskrit. Sanskrit was a purely oral language without any written script. Even renowned grammar books and religious epics were composed orally and memorised. When other Indian languages had written scripts, even then Sanskrit remained unwritten oral language. When eventually it was put in writing, the Brahmi script was used for many centuries. Using Devanagari script for writing Sanskrit came much later. So equating Devanagari script with Sanskrit is incorrect
I think the writer of this comment has 0% knowledge about the origin of sanskrit and how many epics were written down on bark/leaves/naturally occurring things.....
you missed how many urban hindi speakers don't exactly know the correct pronunciation of the alphabet 'फ' (pha) they always pronounce it as 'फ़' (fa) here are some hindi words that originated from sanskrit and their correct pronunciation e.g: it's phool not fool it's phir not fir it's saphalta not safalta it's phatna not fatna it's phailna not failna ps: hindi is derived from sanskrit which doesn't have any 'fa' sounding word. but urdu words like 'fauji' 'farz' 'sirf' 'fursat' and 'faltu' are pronounced different.
Hindi is derived from khadi boli. The 'fa' sound us negligible there. It's very tatbhav heavy. Sanskrit based tatram words are additions in standard Hindi along with additional sounds like 'fa' to allow speaking persian loan words in a "pure" way. And similar other things are there too.
A kannada teacher was newly appointed to us in our 10th Standard (SSLC). In his first class, he asked us to write the Kannada Aksharamaale (Varnamaala) and Gunitakshara (Barakadi), And their pronunciations. 🤔This left us shocked and confused.😱 We wondered why this new teacher was making SSLC students write the syllabus of kinder Garden. We even worried whether we would pass Kannada in SSLC.😬 However, we were in for a surprise. 🤔Without us realizing it, he was reprogramming our minds to shift our focus from merely learning a subject to truly Understand and Realizing the language. In just a few months, he helped us grasp the grammar of the past nine years of study. As shocking as that first class was, our final exam results were equally astonishing, with many students scoring above 90% in Kannada.😎 He was, and still is, more than a teacher to me - A true Guru who continues to inspire me even today. I'm deeply grateful & forever indebt to him🙏. His name is C. V. RANGASHETTY.👼
षड्यंत्र को समझिए आयुर्वेद मानेंगे तो संस्कृत को मानना पड़ेगा, संस्कृत मानेंगे तो सनातन को मानना पड़ेगा, सनातन मानेंगे तो हिन्दू धर्म को मानना पड़ेगा, इसलिए आयुर्वेद का विरोध हो रहा है ..!!
ग़लत जानकारी आयुर्वेद संकलन है ईजाद नहीं देश में आयुर्वेद की कई पद्धतियों को माननेवाले बिना आयुर्वेद पुस्तक के ज्ञान होते हुए भी वो सभी प्रक्रिया कर रहे हैं । और ये वो समाज हैं जो न ही आर्य, न वैदिक न संस्कृत से सम्बंध रखती हैं आयुर्वेदिक चिकित्सा पद्धति के बहुत सारे हिस्से आयुर्वेद पुस्तक से हज़ारों साल पुरानी हैं, शायद सिंधु घाटी सभ्यता से भी पुराने । तो उन्हें जानने के लिए संस्कृत की बिल्कुल भी आवश्यकता नहीं है ।
Vanakam! Do you have some idea about Tamil language which is oldest in India. older than sanskrit. tell me, why pm Modi uses verses from Thirukkural here and there? Moreover, he says " yaathum oore Yaavarum Kelir' in his UN speech. Why? But he is not allocating sufficient fund for promotion of Tamil language across the world? Any idea about Sithars from Tamil? thanks a lot.
No language is pure. And Tamil comes later than Sanskrit. Otherwise tamil would be mother of all Dravidian languages like how Sanskrit is. But Tamil is a sister language
@@sunilzizou What proof do you need. Tamil in it's earliest form is around 300 BC. When it diverged from proto Dravidian language. So other Dravidian languages too must have diverged around the same time. So nearly all old Dravidian languages share approximately the same timeline. Sanskrit meanwhile is at the start of the Vedic age which is around 2500 BC when the right Veda was first composed. But since it mentions Kabul and swat in Afghanistan and northern Pakistan which is now considered a foreign land, it's history is probably much older. And it's the mother of all Aryan languages. Don't bring the script into the discussion as the word brahmi (mother of all Indic scripts) is also most probably of Sanskrit origin
@@monishbeck3859 first of all you should know before the vedic period india had people example indus valley civilization, it has a script which is similar to the script found in TN in the recent archeological survey. Please check that out. Also at one point in history before the Aryans came, Tamizh was the language spoken in all of india. (READ Dr. BR AMBEDKAR speeches and writings). The sanskrit word Dravida is coming from the prakrit word Damila which is the word used for the Tamils. We should not be having this debate coz, it's now well established that Tamizh is older than sanskrit. Even PM Modi proclaimed it publicly last year.
Tamil and Sanskrit.... Do not say it's only Sanskrit... Only Indian who claim it's Sanskrit but if you go outside they say it's both Tamil And Sanskrit.
Vanakam! Do you have some idea about Tamil language which is oldest in India. older than sanskrit. tell me, why pm Modi uses verses from Thirukkural here and there? Moreover, he says " yaathum oore Yaavarum Kelir' in his UN speech. Why? But he is not allocating sufficient fund for promotion of Tamil language across the world? Any idea about Sithars from Tamil? thanks a lot.
@@studypurpose7804 no where it's proved tamizh as oldest. Both samskrtam and tamizh are good enough to be oldest. Also, as per many scientists, both of them aren't the oldest.
Nice jock tamil and sanskrit are not oldest language these are civilized languages and there is no any very oldest scriptures of tamil and sanskrit 😂 north Indians says Asok's scriptures are related to sanskrit but in Prakrit and some pali and pali was the language of nalanda and vikramshila. Pali was rich language but it is not exist pali is mother of sanskrit and tamil that's why I am telling you because of their script 😂 jai Bharat
Sanskrit is root for all North Indian and some south indian language Except Tamil.... You should understand Tamil is also greatest language like Sanskrit
@@shivmohan99681 he mentioned root for all languages in thumbnail.. so our duty to clarify except Tamil... Because most of the north Indian even they r educatted they believe Sanskrit is mother for all languages in India including Tamil...
The phenomes or the pronunciation is the aspect of Sanskrit language and not script Script is a way of representing the constructs of a language. And Devanagri script is very very new compared to Brahmi, sharada or Kharosthi, in which Sanskrit was written. Even Sount Indian languages languages like Tamil, kannada, Telugu, Oriya , Tibeteanare older than Devanagri
I'm at around the 14:00 minute mark. While I agree that the R of kRshna has changed in Gujarati, Hindi, Marathi and other languages, and it is because people were not aware of or taught how to pronounce it, there is no reason to not pronounce it accurately now. I am very curious about whether there will be an explanation for the pronunciation of V/W, because this is yet another very complex topic, especially for Indian speakers who mix up these sounds.
@@vatsalj7535 I just watched the other video, where they did briefly, discuss V/W, but I was disappointed by it. I have left a comment there with the details of why I didn't like their discussion of these sounds.
Regarding the R (ऋ) sound: What is "accurate pronunciation"? Language evolves and the right thing for us to do is to move with the times. So "ri" is the correct pronunciation in Hindi, "ru" is the correct pronunciation in Marathi, and what we talked about in the video is the correct pronunciation in Sanskrit.
@@TheFutureIQ I agree that languages evolves, and sounds change. But I disagree with writing ऋ and pronouncing it as RI or RU. I believe that our ancestors understood language and linguistics brilliantly, and took great care in devising a writing system that is phonetic. If you want to pronounce ऋ as RI or RU in Hindi/Marathi/Gujarati, then write it as RI or RU, not ऋ. Many Indian people ridicule English for its crazy writing system, which does not match the pronunciation of the language. And then, we Indians are doing the same with our language, by writing something one way, and pronouncing it as another. Aren't we then guilty of starting to create the same problem as in English? I'm not here to bash you or anything, but to make my opinion known. I adore logic, and will always stand on the side of things being logical.
@@thaache6! Khariboli didn't introduce any linguistic rules. All Languages on the western and northern side of India use a concept called ‘Schwa Omission’ in which the अ swara in the last letter is dropped. Punjabi, Western Dailects of Hindi like kauravi, Braj, Jaipuri, Haryanavi are prime examples. But when it comes to writing another concept called ‘over spelling’ is employed.
@@Aadi_Varaah apart from the last 'a' omission rule, i think there are 2 more rules 2) 'kachataa' pronounced as 'kachtaa' 3) 'kachatapa' pronounced as 'kachtap'
The word 'Sanskrit' means 'properly done' or 'perfected'. The nomenclature itself clearly indicates that this was an artificially constructed language. It is not a naturally evolved language like TAMIL. That is the reason why it could not survive the test of time and became a dead language. Any attempt to give life to a 'mummified things' will always be a futile exercise...
Vanakam! Do you have some idea about Tamil language which is oldest in India. older than sanskrit. tell me, why pm Modi uses verses from Thirukkural here and there? Moreover, he says " yaathum oore Yaavarum Kelir' in his UN speech. Why? But he is not allocating sufficient fund for promotion of Tamil language across the world? Any idea about Sithars from Tamil? thanks a lot.
@@sainadh7These two are letters not alphabets of Tamil. An alphabet ( वर्ण माला) of a script is made up of letters (अक्षर). English alphabet written in the Roman script has 26 letters like a, b, c....
Vanakam! Do you have some idea about Tamil language which is oldest in India. older than sanskrit. tell me, why pm Modi uses verses from Thirukkural here and there? Moreover, he says " yaathum oore Yaavarum Kelir' in his UN speech. Why? But he is not allocating sufficient fund for promotion of Tamil language across the world? Any idea about Sithars from Tamil? thanks a lot.
@@studypurpose7804 తమిళ్, తెలుగు, మలయాళం, కన్నడ, బిహారీ, ఒడిస్సీ, రాజస్థానీ, బెంగాలీ,,, అన్నీ కూడా సంస్కృతం నుండే వొచ్చాయి. తమిళ్ బ్రిటీష్ కుక్కలు నేర్పలేదు.ఇక్కడిదే
Tamil sweetest(Amuthu) language in the world Tamil is the first language that appeared in the world and is the mother of the world languages. Tamil It means the nectar itself There is no other language in the world that can be spoken in written form except Tamil.
@@Aadi_Varaah his comment is an overstatement don't take him seriously but there's no such thing as oldest language in India. It's funny when people argue whether sanskrit or Tamil is older. Language always evolves with time .
@@ChannaJayawardhana-h1o அம் அம்மம் முலைப்பால் தாய்ப்பால் இதுவே அமுது மழை நீர் உயிர்களுக்கு அமுது. அமுது ---அமிர்து மெல்ல--மெது--ம்ருது Mother breastfeeds This is the elixir Rain water is elixir for life. Am am Ammam mother milk Am am amuthu Amudu---Amirtu Mella methu= soft Methu --mrthu Tamil words were slightly changed to Sanskrit. Kanchipuram Tamil Nadu Birthplace of Sanskrit. Jewish Brahmins who lived 3000 years ago also spoke Tamil.
बोली भाषेला "शुद्ध" असल्याचा पुरावा द्यावा लागत नाही, म्हणून असेल कदाचित. माहित नाही, बुवा! पण तुमच्या विचाराने बुद्धीला चालना नक्की मिळाली आहे! त्याबद्दल धन्यवाद! - श्रीकांत.
Sanskrit Grammar is still the greatest intellectual achievement in the field of Language studies . Basic principles on Sounds , AKSHARAs , SANDHIs , SAAMAS , and CASE Grammar are true for other languages .
tamil has similar alphabets and grammer compared to hindi,sanskruth,marathi. but westerners claimed sanskrit to be more similar to english than tamil. why language experts like you hesitate to challenge such nonsense?
@@sunilzizou this classification was done in 1700 by english person who knew only english and none of indian languages.its a pity our minds are still in slave mode
@@TheFutureIQ Due to difficulty in usage and alternative pronunciations for the existing words using common sounds. Also, to begin with there were very few words with those sounds. Vowel La sounds
@@TheFutureIQbecause they weren't actually existing sounds in pure telugu or native telugu words, they been used for using sanskrit words eventually ppl come down to telugu and Sanskrit common sounds, there were other sounds that has no use in daily
If you learn Linguistics you will understand there is no single oldest language or single root for all languages . There are nearly 7000 languages in the world which are classified in to 147 language families depending on different roots they have. Eg - The root of Sino tibetan language family is proto sino tibetan language , root of indo aryan language family is vedic sanskrit and so on. ❤
If you want to really know the different way to pronounce श स ष get to know Andhra Telugu person at e least 50+ years age and listen to him make the three sounds one after another , it’s not me but Gandhi was the first to notice and talk about this
I feel bad for the red shirt guy and all Indian people who didn't know about this before because it is not a magic that he showed here it is a pattern which is also mention in our व्याकरण book the types of स्वर और व्यंजन but unfortunately we all are just focusing on English then how would we get to know about this all . Then definitely it will lead to 'wonder'🤧
That may be am indication that Sanskrit is an artificial language - ie. that it was never widely spoken. Natural languages have imperfections and colloquialisms, and the more widely it is spoken, the more of these there are. It is likely therefore that the more widely spoken language did havd these imperfections, and when Sanskrit became a dead language other than for religious use, it was cleaned up and rationalised by those who learned it in a formal environment.
Why was this recommended, you're wrong about a lot of things. Sanskrit isn't any perfect than the other languages, also it's just the common ancestor of Indic languages not all.
In William jones ‘ s words - more refined and copious than Greek and Latin, that way perfect, you can’t refine any language than Sanskrit, the word it self means “refined” for lack of a better description
चार अक्षर य, र, ल, व अर्ध स्वर. (half vowels) कहलाते हैं। यि, यी =इ, ई रु, रू = , ऋ यहां छोटा वाला ऋ नहीं मिला। ल्रु, र्लू = , लृ यहां भी छोटा वाला लृ नहीं मिला। वु, वू = उ, ऊ Again क् + ऋ = कृ प् + ऋ = पृ Most sceitific script in the world.
Talk in hindi or in sanskrit for better impact. I don't know if we are doing any service to Sanskrit by teaching it in English. The irony is, I'm telling you all of this in english. I wish one day sanskrit would not only be the language of fascination and intrigue but a regular thing in our lives. If Hebrew can be resurrected after millennia by the combined endeavour of the Jews in Israel why can't we Hindus for the sake of our Sanskriti resurrect Sanskrit!? 😌
Because Hindus does not have Mono Culture like Jews do, Hindus are very diverse, and many cultures in Hindus do not consider Sanskrit to be a divine language for their rituals.
Sanskrit is a great language and much as I wish more oad more people spoke it, India is a diverse country with so many varied cultures and regional religious customs.Deities worshipped vary from region to region.Many regional languages are almost as old as Sanskrit and have scripts even older.
Then why didn't you comment in Sanskrit but used English? 😂they need more views and reach and it had to be in English, which without any doubt is the global language currently (also the language that connects the Indians)
@@bibhutijena3383 Our PM Modi ji said it is the first language of world. Tamil and Prakrit(Mother of Sanskrit) shares almost same vocabulary and you see Tamil words in all languages of India also Africa , korea and few in English (Ex: catamaran )
@@jharnarani6641 there is no language on the planet you can say it's a mother of all languages! But arabic is the world's 5th biggest languages in the world! And also one of the six languages of United Nations! It's live language, Around 400 million across 25 countries speak Arabic. Moreover, over 1.5 billion people can read Arabic even if they can't understand the language! Quran is in Arabic and it's compulsory for 2 BILLION Muslims of the world to read it at least once in a lifetime, soo we learn it to read and almost 75% of Muslims can read Quranic Arabic, I am a Indian Muslim and I can Also read it but I don't understand
As long as the wind, the call of the bird, the barking of the dog, the ripple of the water, the rustling of the leaves and everything else in nature will exist, Sanskrit will exist. Because Sanskrit IS nature crystallised into an alphabet system. But if you are happy thinking what you think, tathastu. :)
Kannada has the greatest number of alphabets than any Indian Languages. Any Indian word can be written and pronounced in Kannada exactly the same way it is pronounced in native Indian language.
Finally learnt the difference between श and ष. Thank you so much. And a word which often uses लृ is क्लृप्ती. So may be लृ is not that outdated. That apart, kudos to Navin Sir's depth of research and Shrikant's tenaciousness. 😀👌🏻
Books:
The Ashtadhyayi of Panini: tapthe.link/AshthPaniniBook
More videos for you:
Why Indian English is weird: ua-cam.com/video/P4TcPyEt1fg/v-deo.html
Ancient India's advanced science: ua-cam.com/video/O4pL_mmUeVA/v-deo.html
Sir, ek request, ek baar Tamil language and script and it's antiquity par ek content banaayenge please?
Talavya sa ,dant sa,murdant sa.these are three sa teached by my grandfather. 1.Talavya sa means upper part of mouth when touched by tongue first sa is pronounced .2 dant sa means when tongue touch the teeth second sa is pronounced.3 murdant sa is pronounced when tongue is slightly turned downward and sa is pronounced.
My mother tongue is Sindhi
And I really love my mother tongue
But if you will ask me, Hindi is the best langaage, theee besttt
@@vickeykooper2674 Why Tamil ? you need to look for Odia
एकस्याः भाषायाः विषये नाटकं मा रचयतु! एक लिपि, देवनागरी लिपि की बात करें! देशः स्वयमेव प्रतिदिनं बद्धः भविष्यति! एकं राष्ट्रं, एकं लिपिं प्रचारितव्यम्।
Aha! I’m a Kiwi struggling to learn Hindi remotely and I’ve just learned more in this 20 minutes than after more than a year of Duolingo.
Thank you! I hope you make good progress. -@Navin
@Zemaj I'm Kiwi based in Wellington
Because duolingo doesn't teach you anything. Buy a Hindi textbook and use it. That will help more than Duolingo. Also, find a native speaker of Hindi who can talk to you in Hindi fluently, so that you can get in actual Hindi practice and perhaps learn some more "slang-y" terms and constructions which might not be in a textbook.
Almost all Indian languages are sound based and perfect in their own sense.
Comparing , debating and arguing one over other is futile. We should be proud of all of them!
In Malayalam, that child crying sound is used perfectly - nja (spelt almost like nya). Most of the sounds are there in Malayalam, retained from Sanskrit-Old Tamil.
മലയാളി ഡാ
एकस्याः भाषायाः विषये नाटकं मा रचयतु! एक लिपि, देवनागरी लिपि की बात करें! देशः स्वयमेव प्रतिदिनं बद्धः भविष्यति! एकं राष्ट्रं, एकं लिपिं प्रचारितव्यम्।
@@parvinsanchetifuck No, we don't need a one language model. If that happens this country will break
@@parvinsanchetiSome Cow belt ppl are jealous of South Indian Languages .
Oneupone a time Malayali was tamizh people ...... sanskrit mixed will come Malayalam language 😢😢
I think Odia Language is more nearer to Sanskrit ...
एकस्याः भाषायाः विषये नाटकं मा रचयतु! एक लिपि, देवनागरी लिपि की बात करें! देशः स्वयमेव प्रतिदिनं बद्धः भविष्यति! एकं राष्ट्रं, एकं लिपिं प्रचारितव्यम्।
@@velu1671 stop it.
DNA analysis is already proving aryan migration as wrong.
It's an Eastern Indian language? I speak it. But we say Nin not niontu, jauchhan not jauchhanti. We say jol_ not Pani and Krisno not krusno.
Languages derived from Magadhi Prakrit are more close to Sanskrit in thir grammar like Bhojpuri, Bengali, Assamese, Odia, etc.
Nearest to Sanscrit is Malayalam❤
Looks like in this particular subject, you were not really taught in your childhood the right way which are basic things we learnt. So now that you realized it became mind blowing.
After Sanskrit, in Indian languages Kannada is most classic language, resembling to Sanskrit. It's script also most beautiful among world languages. In Kannada what pronounces that will be exactly written without any exceptions, this can not happen in few languages. Hence it is called as " QUEEN " of all languages in the world.
Telugus also can make this claim !
@@subbaraokarnam5195 both kannada and telgu have sanskrit influence so it's obvious
Kannada has the greatest number of alphabets than any Indian Languages. Any Indian word can be written and pronounced in Kannada exactly the same way it is pronounced in native Indian language.
@@sunilzizou Sanskrit does not have its own script. It uses Devanagari script. Devanagari script was used by Pali and Prakrut language in North India. English language uses Latin alphabets. Similarly, Sanskrit uses Devanagari alphabets. Sanskrit is not the mother of other Indian languages as it is being narrated.
@@gopil6740 Not kannada , it is malayalam that contains all letters from sanskrit as well as tamil .
Kannada doesnt have the letter ZHA and the short U pronounciations as in tamil.
Theses are not sound and alphabets, this is periodic table of elements from the DEVTA'S.
Sanskrit does not have its own script. It uses Devanagari script. Devanagari script was used by Pali and Prakrut language in the North India. English language uses Latin alphabets. Similarly, Sanskrit uses Devanagari alphabets. Sanskrit is not the mother of other Indian languages as being narrated.
Way older, the ONLY non-south classical lang ODIA also has. ळ
ଳ
The ONLY one to come from Sanskrit.
Shashtriya bhasha are old
Nearest to Sanscrit is Malayalam. It is a highly Sannscritised language❤
Basically only two languages originally originated from India, and from those two languages all the languages in the world developed those are Sanskrit and Tamil ( both are my favorites) but tamil is little older , all souther part languages originated from tamil and all bortherypart of india language originated from Sanskrit
'Wow'els! ... I had that feeling about the content, and then they said it. 😊
Haha!
Indian languages are sound based languages that's why ancient indians kept the knowledge intact as it is by remembering the sound patterns. And that's why in hindu dharm recital and pronunciation of mantras are important. We are proud of our ancient culture. they were so scientific. The world knows about mathematical power of ancient indians.
A great feeling to go through your views!
@@kn_jpr9729 Yes, Indian languages have a phonetic alphabet.
@@kn_jpr9729 That’s why even Hindus don’t speak this ‘excellent’ language!
Sanskrit is like Hinduism- what you get is not what you see.
@sathiahalya3003 Yes, every alphabet has a unique sound or pronunciation. But same is not in many other languages.
ळ exists in Sanskrit - अग्निमीळे पुरोहितं being the beginning of the first rk of the Rg Veda
Their inferiority complex about Marathi language that stoped them in discussing that sound and letter. Gujrati, Rajasthani also use ळ sound
ळ exists in Sanskrth as rightly said, but only in Vedic Sanskrth, not in spoken Sanskrth.
ळ exists in all South Indian languages - Kannada, Tulu, Konkani, Kodava, Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam & in Marathi.
@@10ssr except Hindi and North East language, almost all of India uses ळ
@@10ssr as an odia
We do have ଳ/ळ/Ịa in both of our script and vocabulary....
Even it's the most important letter in odia, and a part of our cultural identity...
Like it's ଉତ୍କଳ/उत्कळ/UtkaỊa✅
ଉତ୍କଲ /उत्कल /Utkal❌
କଳିଙ୍ଗ/कळिन्ग/KaỊinga✅
କଲିଂଗ/कलिंग/Kaling❌
But morden roman/English don't have these letters... So, we r forced to write it as La instead of Ḷa
@@10ssr is that the same as Gujarati ળ
This was where my Khmer language originated from Sanskrit from Northern India. Used to written on the Angkor Walls. The same sounds but more like Telugu written form.🥰🥰 I tried to make connection to where the origin of the linguistic of my Khmer alphabetic came from. Now, I am more enlightened that Sanskrit was our based mother tongue. Beautiful! 👏Thank you for making the sounds of the Sanskrit for me to hear.🙏
Yeah khemer chaddi from shadipur depot.
good to hear that. love to cambodia from india
On my trip to Angkor I bought a T shirt with Khmer letters, when I read them aloud, the girl selling them was flabbergasted, it was brahmi also on which my mother tongue Telugu script is based
@@skarumuru
Thank you for clarifying what I have been curious about and searched for the origin of my Khmer Language came from...the linguistic of its root. I knew it in my heart but just need it to be factual. Greatly Appreciate it!
I am Maharashtrian And I am in love with my Marathi ❤❤
वो लोग लिपि की बात कर रहे हैं भाषा की नहीं। सभी भारतीय भाषाएं समृद्ध है।
@@ashutoshrawal3130 he tumhala sangayachi garaj nahiye
Odia ❤ from Odisha , 👍👍👍
ळ exists in Sanskrth as rightly said, but only in Vedic Sanskrth, not in spoken Sanskrth.
ळ exists in all South Indian languages - Kannada, Tulu, Konkani, Kodava, Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam & in Marathi.
ळ also exist in all western dialects of Hindi like Khariboli, Himanchali, Garhwai, Jaunsari, Haryanvi, Bangru, Mewari, Marwari, Mewati, and many more.
@@jonasdavies1806 but they don't use it
But it’s difficult to pronounce this vyanjan.
ळ exists in Punjabi (ਲ਼), Marathi, Gujarati (ળ), Odiya (ଳ), Western Dailects of Hindi (Kauravi, Haryanavi, Panchali). ळ existed in Vedic Sanskrit as well as Chalit Sanskrit, extensively used in Apabhranshas. So, it is not unique to Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam and Kannada.
@@meonmaau7452! Yes we use it. All these Dailects use the sound. Infact ळ is used more extensively than ल in spoken form.
Red shirt man realising now 😂
We got to know this in class V when Sanskrit was taught as subject.
Not everyone have Sanskrit as a subject. Don't be this ignorant
@@RachaelWill Also not everyone has good sanskrit teachers even if its taught, just like me
I thought its a basic thing anyone can figure out, without anyone specifically saying
Whats wrong with the red shirt guy, can't you be serious for couple of minutes
You are right, he's annoying.
😂😂😂
Nothing IS wrong with him. YOU, FOUND something wrong in him. I, FOUND the whole episode valuable as well as enjoyable. Why does seeking knowledge have to always be SERIOUS?
If someone irritates you, it is only your own response that is irritating you. Therefore, when anyone seems to be provoking you, remember that it is only your judgment of the incident that provokes you. -
Epictetus
you can read devnagri script mostly everywhere in india . Devnagari means:The Devanagari script, composed of 47 primary characters including 14 vowels and 33 consonants, is the fourth most widely adopted writing system in the world, being used for over 120 languages.
example: Apabhramsha, Awadhi, Bhili, Bhojpuri, Bodo, Braj, Chhattisgarhi, Dogri, Gujarati, Garhwali Haryanvi, Hindi, Hindustani, Kashmiri, Konkani,Kumaoni, Magahi, Maithili, Marathi, Marwari, Mundari, Newari, Nepali, Pāḷi, Pahari, Prakrit, Rajasthani, Sadri, Sanskrit, Santali, Saraiki, Sherpa, Sindhi, Surjapuri, and many more.
The R sound of kRishna is not there in Tamil as you were telling though.. In Tamil we write Krishna as "Kirushna" (K becomes Ki because according to Tamil grammar rules first letter of any word shouldn't start with a plain consonant sound, but while saying the "i" sound won't be stretched, it would be very subtle).. infact even 'sh','h','j','s' sound doesn't naturally exist in Tamil, they were later adopted into the script as "northern" letters after influence of sanskrit..highly suggest you to do a video on Tamil sounds and grammar too, would be really interesting
Actually name ‘Northern Letters' for ஷ,ஸ,ஜ,ஹ letters is also a later adoption, they were originally called ‘Granthaksharam’
'h' sound belonging is subjective. Because I have heard many dialects in central and south TN which pronounce the nga as ha like varanga as vararha.. Dialect differences but still h is not foreign to tamil. g and h are somewhat replaceable. H letter is adopted from Sanskrit but not H sound
@@Aadi_Varaah no they were called vadasol
Why tamilian and Dravidian shouting in comment section...they not say anything about you language...they just respresenting and talking about there own language
Because they mentioned sanskrit is the mother of all languages in the video title. Is not that misleading?
@@bhuvaneshwaranm7290no it's not
It is
mother of all languages is tamil...
@@bhuvaneshwaranm7290yes it’s misleading💀
I'm just 4 minutes into the video, but I'm loving it! I have for trying to explain these very things to people for years and years, because most of my own Indian friends have no idea why the sounds of our languages are arranged and written the way they are. When he put his hand on his voicebox, to explain unvoiced versus voiced consonants, I just knew this guy knows his stuff. This is exactly how I explain the difference. These concepts exist in other Indo-European languages too, but they are equally blind to these ideas until someone explains it to them. They explain why there's an N in coNtest, but an M in coMpound. N goes with T, and M goes with P. You see this clearly in the arrange of the Devanagari alphabet, but it is not at all obvious in the Latin script. Let me watch the rest of the video, and maybe I'll add more comments.
Tamil has this interesting classification as well.
1) Val inam - Hard group - ka, ca, ta, tha, pa & Ra(ற) --> 1st column of Devnagari; In Devnagari each of these letters have Chathurvarga(four variations). Tamil grammar says it comes from the air that hits the throat.
2) Mel inam - Soft group - nga, nya, Na, nha(ந), ma & na(ன) --> Last column of Devnagari; These letters are called Udanpadu mei aka letters that come in conjunction with Hard group letters respectively(Similar to what you explained in maNdal). Tamil grammar says it comes from the air that hits the nose tip(top of the nose between eyes).
3) Idai Inam - Intermediate group - ya, ra(ர), la(ல), va, zha(ழ), La(ள) --> Following row after the above classification of Devnagari. Tamil grammar says they are inbetween the hard and soft.
In addition, we add another group -
4) Grantha letters (to represent Vadasol/ Northern words ie., Sanskrit) --> Next row in Devnagari
sha(ஷ), Sha(ஶ), sa(ஸ), ha(ஹ) and also ja(ஜ - represents 3rd and 4th varga of cha), xa(க்ஷ-ksha), ஸ்ரீ (only for shree; no shra, shraa, shri, shru , shruu, shre, shrae, shrai, shro and all)
In Tamil, the chathur varga is pronounced in its natural flow mostly when soft group letter adjoins with hard group letter.
Examples:
Anjanaa is a+ny+cha+naa (அ ஞ் ச னா) in Tamil. cha(ச) pronounced as ja(ஜ) here.
Mandalam is ma+N+ta+la+m (ம ண் ட ல ம்)in Tamil. ta(ட) pronounced as da here
There is lot lot more which I can explain. But I will stop here.
The systems had similarities or common origins or in someway transactional of their methods.
Note -
Special letters in Tamil:
1) Ra(ற)
2) na(ன) - Difference exists in writing only. Pronunced same as ந(nha).
3) zha(ழ)
4) q(ஃ) pronunced as 'hh' - Aaytham; This is rarely used. But in modern day we find it useful to represent Persian Za and Pha in muslim names by simply adding ஃ in front of ja and pa respectivly.
Example: Manzil is ma+n+ஃ(q)+ji+l. Fahadh is q(ஃ)+pa+ha+th.
The same thing was taught to us in Hindi classes.
Ka, kha, ga,gha Na comes from throat.
Cha, kcha, ja, jha, comes from teeth movements
🙏🏽you have blessings of Vac Devi🙏🏽
Excellent information
Awesome, thank you for the detailed explanation!
Because Both Sanskrit & Tamil language grammar books quote "Ainthiram", a lost Tamil linguistic Grammar (not Tamil or any language grammar. It is a linguistic book) book from which both these languages took rules to write their own grammar.
ohh man...came here after reading your tweets on Devnagari script. Saw the topics of your other videos and immediately subscribed. 😊 Topics and titles are so interesting. Keep it up. 👍
Thank you!
You are forgetting that the classification is based the source from where the sound originates like कण्ठ्य, दन्त्य, तालव्य, मूर्धन्य, ओष्ठ्य. Also sub classification like कठोर and कोमल. While grouping two adjacent columns you could have mentioned this difference of कठोर, कोमल.
Sorry, in a video, we have to strike a balance about what is the right level of detail, and this got skipped. I is covered in the accompanying article: futureiq.substack.com/p/the-elegance-of-the-devanagari-script
-@Navin
This is to be remembered
विद्या विनायेन शोभते।
Pride, arrogance, ego does not behove a knowledgeable person.
As a person who loves linguistics and scripts, this video is a MUST for people who have this same thirst for knowledge. When I first learnt these things, there was nobody to explain it in such a fun and intuitive way, and as you first learn the basics of linguistics, these things click in your head. More specifically, Devanagari is an alphasyllabary, the ultimate type of writing system (according to me). Thank you Dr. Navin, for bringing to light these things to more people. This stuff should be taught in schools, because it will make life for students easier instead of blindly learning.
Thank you for such amazingly kind words, I'll make sure Navin sees this! :)
- Shrikant
00:33 I was taught well at home and I pronounce the sounds ङ & ञ perfectly well. However, the pronunciation of ऋ & क्ष has to be adapted according to the language spoken whether it is Marathi, Hindi, Nepali, Sindhi or Sanskrit.
Man, I so needed to know this. Thanks for these deep dive sessions. I can now better appreciate Indian languages, which was always so easier to write and read compared to foreign ones.
Yupp, English spellings are nightmares and French spellings are even bigger nightmares.
Kannada is also scientifically perfect language ❤.
Most scientific language
bro i am kannadiga myself, No language on this Earth is Scientific not even English which runs the whole of Science and Technology
Sanskrit is the besis for kannadakke kooda
Kannada is unique rich
I agree...but many people still don't know that Kannada language exists and it matches 99.9 % with Sanskrit .
There is no native script for Sanskrit. Sanskrit was a purely oral language without any written script. Even renowned grammar books and religious epics were composed orally and memorised. When other Indian languages had written scripts, even then Sanskrit remained unwritten oral language. When eventually it was put in writing, the Brahmi script was used for many centuries. Using Devanagari script for writing Sanskrit came much later. So equating Devanagari script with Sanskrit is incorrect
Hmm
But devanagri is the most beautiful script I've seen. Each letter is so unique.
@@TKInternational76Have you seen Kannada and Indonesian?
Probably the writer of comment is having very less knowledge about Sanskrit.
I think the writer of this comment has 0% knowledge about the origin of sanskrit and how many epics were written down on bark/leaves/naturally occurring things.....
😊
Excellent Sir!!!!
Whatta scientific way, esp the sha sound.
Thank you
you missed how many urban hindi speakers don't exactly know the correct pronunciation of the alphabet 'फ' (pha) they always pronounce it as 'फ़' (fa)
here are some hindi words that originated from sanskrit and their correct pronunciation
e.g: it's phool not fool
it's phir not fir
it's saphalta not safalta
it's phatna not fatna
it's phailna not failna
ps: hindi is derived from sanskrit which doesn't have any 'fa' sounding word. but urdu words like 'fauji' 'farz' 'sirf' 'fursat' and 'faltu' are pronounced different.
In Telugu also same as this
Hindi is derived from khadi boli. The 'fa' sound us negligible there. It's very tatbhav heavy. Sanskrit based tatram words are additions in standard Hindi along with additional sounds like 'fa' to allow speaking persian loan words in a "pure" way. And similar other things are there too.
A kannada teacher was newly appointed to us in our 10th Standard (SSLC). In his first class, he asked us to write the Kannada Aksharamaale (Varnamaala) and Gunitakshara (Barakadi), And their pronunciations. 🤔This left us shocked and confused.😱 We wondered why this new teacher was making SSLC students write the syllabus of kinder Garden. We even worried whether we would pass Kannada in SSLC.😬
However, we were in for a surprise. 🤔Without us realizing it, he was reprogramming our minds to shift our focus from merely learning a subject to truly Understand and Realizing the language. In just a few months, he helped us grasp the grammar of the past nine years of study. As shocking as that first class was, our final exam results were equally astonishing, with many students scoring above 90% in Kannada.😎
He was, and still is, more than a teacher to me - A true Guru who continues to inspire me even today. I'm deeply grateful & forever indebt to him🙏. His name is C. V. RANGASHETTY.👼
Love it! A good teacher is so rare to find!
Please give my best to Mr. Rangashetty! 🙏
- Shrikant
षड्यंत्र को समझिए
आयुर्वेद मानेंगे तो संस्कृत को मानना पड़ेगा, संस्कृत मानेंगे तो सनातन को मानना पड़ेगा, सनातन मानेंगे तो हिन्दू धर्म को मानना पड़ेगा, इसलिए आयुर्वेद का विरोध हो रहा है ..!!
ग़लत जानकारी
आयुर्वेद संकलन है ईजाद नहीं
देश में आयुर्वेद की कई पद्धतियों को माननेवाले बिना आयुर्वेद पुस्तक के ज्ञान होते हुए भी वो सभी प्रक्रिया कर रहे हैं । और ये वो समाज हैं जो न ही आर्य, न वैदिक न संस्कृत से सम्बंध रखती हैं
आयुर्वेदिक चिकित्सा पद्धति के बहुत सारे हिस्से आयुर्वेद पुस्तक से हज़ारों साल पुरानी हैं, शायद सिंधु घाटी सभ्यता से भी पुराने । तो उन्हें जानने के लिए संस्कृत की बिल्कुल भी आवश्यकता नहीं है ।
Wonderful podcast!
Language is always oral ,the script and grammar comes later and changes overtime.
Vanakam!
Do you have some idea about Tamil language which is oldest in India. older than sanskrit.
tell me, why pm Modi uses verses from Thirukkural here and there?
Moreover, he says " yaathum oore Yaavarum Kelir' in his UN speech.
Why? But he is not allocating sufficient fund for promotion of Tamil language across the world?
Any idea about Sithars from Tamil?
thanks a lot.
@@studypurpose7804no where it's mentioned tamizh as oldest.
Neither samskrtam nor tamizh are oldest.
@@chandanamondal5771
Just type the below in youtube and see the video.
"Surprise ! Narendra Modi on Tamil | Oldest Language| Older than Sanskrit"
Indian languages👽
Tamil language with a purity 🔥😼🔥
No language is pure.
And Tamil comes later than Sanskrit.
Otherwise tamil would be mother of all Dravidian languages like how Sanskrit is.
But Tamil is a sister language
@@monishbeck3859 If you think Thamizh has no purity, that is your mentality on Thamizh & THAMIZHAR
@@monishbeck3859bullshit. Do you have any proof what you claim?
@@sunilzizou What proof do you need.
Tamil in it's earliest form is around 300 BC. When it diverged from proto Dravidian language. So other Dravidian languages too must have diverged around the same time. So nearly all old Dravidian languages share approximately the same timeline.
Sanskrit meanwhile is at the start of the Vedic age which is around 2500 BC when the right Veda was first composed. But since it mentions Kabul and swat in Afghanistan and northern Pakistan which is now considered a foreign land, it's history is probably much older.
And it's the mother of all Aryan languages.
Don't bring the script into the discussion as the word brahmi (mother of all Indic scripts) is also most probably of Sanskrit origin
@@monishbeck3859 first of all you should know before the vedic period india had people example indus valley civilization, it has a script which is similar to the script found in TN in the recent archeological survey. Please check that out. Also at one point in history before the Aryans came, Tamizh was the language spoken in all of india. (READ Dr. BR AMBEDKAR speeches and writings). The sanskrit word Dravida is coming from the prakrit word Damila which is the word used for the Tamils. We should not be having this debate coz, it's now well established that Tamizh is older than sanskrit. Even PM Modi proclaimed it publicly last year.
Tamil and Sanskrit.... Do not say it's only Sanskrit... Only Indian who claim it's Sanskrit but if you go outside they say it's both Tamil And Sanskrit.
Vanakam!
Do you have some idea about Tamil language which is oldest in India. older than sanskrit.
tell me, why pm Modi uses verses from Thirukkural here and there?
Moreover, he says " yaathum oore Yaavarum Kelir' in his UN speech.
Why? But he is not allocating sufficient fund for promotion of Tamil language across the world?
Any idea about Sithars from Tamil?
thanks a lot.
@@studypurpose7804 no where it's proved tamizh as oldest.
Both samskrtam and tamizh are good enough to be oldest.
Also, as per many scientists, both of them aren't the oldest.
@@chandanamondal5771
Just type the below in youtube and see the video.
"Surprise ! Narendra Modi on Tamil | Oldest Language| Older than Sanskrit"
Nice jock tamil and sanskrit are not oldest language these are civilized languages and there is no any very oldest scriptures of tamil and sanskrit 😂 north Indians says Asok's scriptures are related to sanskrit but in Prakrit and some pali and pali was the language of nalanda and vikramshila. Pali was rich language but it is not exist pali is mother of sanskrit and tamil that's why I am telling you because of their script 😂 jai Bharat
@@Bhartiye-f4v why pm Modi says tamil older than Sanskrit, and Tamil has vast literature ?
Sanskrit is root for all North Indian and some south indian language Except Tamil.... You should understand Tamil is also greatest language like Sanskrit
did he said anything about tamil?
@@shivmohan99681 he mentioned root for all languages in thumbnail.. so our duty to clarify except Tamil... Because most of the north Indian even they r educatted they believe Sanskrit is mother for all languages in India including Tamil...
The phenomes or the pronunciation is the aspect of Sanskrit language and not script
Script is a way of representing the constructs of a language. And Devanagri script is very very new compared to Brahmi, sharada or Kharosthi, in which Sanskrit was written. Even Sount Indian languages languages like Tamil, kannada, Telugu, Oriya , Tibeteanare older than Devanagri
I'm at around the 14:00 minute mark. While I agree that the R of kRshna has changed in Gujarati, Hindi, Marathi and other languages, and it is because people were not aware of or taught how to pronounce it, there is no reason to not pronounce it accurately now. I am very curious about whether there will be an explanation for the pronunciation of V/W, because this is yet another very complex topic, especially for Indian speakers who mix up these sounds.
Watch their last video, the one before this
@@vatsalj7535 I just watched the other video, where they did briefly, discuss V/W, but I was disappointed by it. I have left a comment there with the details of why I didn't like their discussion of these sounds.
Regarding the R (ऋ) sound: What is "accurate pronunciation"? Language evolves and the right thing for us to do is to move with the times. So "ri" is the correct pronunciation in Hindi, "ru" is the correct pronunciation in Marathi, and what we talked about in the video is the correct pronunciation in Sanskrit.
@@TheFutureIQ I agree that languages evolves, and sounds change. But I disagree with writing ऋ and pronouncing it as RI or RU. I believe that our ancestors understood language and linguistics brilliantly, and took great care in devising a writing system that is phonetic. If you want to pronounce ऋ as RI or RU in Hindi/Marathi/Gujarati, then write it as RI or RU, not ऋ. Many Indian people ridicule English for its crazy writing system, which does not match the pronunciation of the language. And then, we Indians are doing the same with our language, by writing something one way, and pronouncing it as another. Aren't we then guilty of starting to create the same problem as in English? I'm not here to bash you or anything, but to make my opinion known. I adore logic, and will always stand on the side of things being logical.
vak suddhi is really important. lots of love from NEPAL.
Navin Kabra Ji & Shrikant Joshi Ji, thank you for this Video ❤👍
Tamil not Sanskrit. Do some basic research on Tamil and Sanskrit. Be unbiased. If someone proves I'm ready to accept.
Please call it as "Devanaagari" not "Devnaagri"
They can't even imagine saying devanaagari.. because of the linguistic rule introduced by karboli.😊
@@thaache6 actually they did a video on this recently. The schwa in dev, being deva.
ദേവ് നാഗരി അല്ല എന്നാണ്.
@@thaache6! Khariboli didn't introduce any linguistic rules. All Languages on the western and northern side of India use a concept called ‘Schwa Omission’ in which the अ swara in the last letter is dropped. Punjabi, Western Dailects of Hindi like kauravi, Braj, Jaipuri, Haryanavi are prime examples. But when it comes to writing another concept called ‘over spelling’ is employed.
@@Aadi_Varaah apart from the last 'a' omission rule, i think there are 2 more rules
2) 'kachataa' pronounced as 'kachtaa'
3) 'kachatapa' pronounced as 'kachtap'
Very informative.
Let's keep learning .
Did I missed ए,ऐ,ओ,औ..
A + e is ey ai and a + u is o. ,ow
Those are a little too complicated so we skipped them 🙁
The word 'Sanskrit' means 'properly done' or 'perfected'. The nomenclature itself clearly indicates that this was an artificially constructed language. It is not a naturally evolved language like TAMIL. That is the reason why it could not survive the test of time and became a dead language. Any attempt to give life to a 'mummified things' will always be a futile exercise...
Sir your video is really amazing. Wish teachers taught this way
Surprisingly informative!
Vanakam!
Do you have some idea about Tamil language which is oldest in India. older than sanskrit.
tell me, why pm Modi uses verses from Thirukkural here and there?
Moreover, he says " yaathum oore Yaavarum Kelir' in his UN speech.
Why? But he is not allocating sufficient fund for promotion of Tamil language across the world?
Any idea about Sithars from Tamil?
thanks a lot.
Tami has a phonetic alphabet.
Each alphabet is distinguishable.
Tamil and Devanagari are both not up to mark, Devanagari is better, others are better.
One has to distinguish between letter and alphabet.
But does Tamil have different alphabet for cha and SA and ja ?
@@sainadh7These two are letters not alphabets of Tamil. An alphabet ( वर्ण माला) of a script is made up of letters (अक्षर). English alphabet written in the Roman script has 26 letters like a, b, c....
@@rajendersharma1334 yes that's right. But I was expecting an answer to my question.
जब बात हिंदी और संस्कृत भाषा की हो रही है तो इसे 20 मिनट तक *अंग्रेजी* में ही क्यों समझाया जा रहा है ??
बेसिक बात है ये ("बेसिक" जानबूझ कर लिखा है)
Sanskrit should be made compulsory in Schools across India
@youdontknow-gz3nh
Why not in south?
Vanakam!
Do you have some idea about Tamil language which is oldest in India. older than sanskrit.
tell me, why pm Modi uses verses from Thirukkural here and there?
Moreover, he says " yaathum oore Yaavarum Kelir' in his UN speech.
Why? But he is not allocating sufficient fund for promotion of Tamil language across the world?
Any idea about Sithars from Tamil?
thanks a lot.
@@studypurpose7804
తమిళ్, తెలుగు, మలయాళం, కన్నడ, బిహారీ, ఒడిస్సీ, రాజస్థానీ, బెంగాలీ,,,
అన్నీ కూడా సంస్కృతం నుండే వొచ్చాయి.
తమిళ్ బ్రిటీష్ కుక్కలు నేర్పలేదు.ఇక్కడిదే
@@studypurpose7804don't lie..
@@pkchethan3245 why pm modi says tamil is older than sanskrit , and tamil has vast literatures infront of school children in new delhi ??
9:36
I somehow got this difference from Thamizh . Where च, स, श has a same letter ।
ஓம் நம சிவாய
Tamil sweetest(Amuthu) language in the world
Tamil is the first language that appeared in the world and is the mother of the world languages.
Tamil
It means the nectar itself
There is no other language in the world that can be spoken in written form except Tamil.
Yes there is evidence that Australopithecus spoke Tamizh.
@@Aadi_Varaah his comment is an overstatement don't take him seriously but there's no such thing as oldest language in India.
It's funny when people argue whether sanskrit or Tamil is older.
Language always evolves with time .
Isn't AMUTHU derived from sanskrit AMURTHA...?
Tamil first Lang of world...😂...joke....😂😂😂
@@ChannaJayawardhana-h1o அம் அம்மம் முலைப்பால் தாய்ப்பால்
இதுவே அமுது
மழை நீர் உயிர்களுக்கு அமுது.
அமுது ---அமிர்து
மெல்ல--மெது--ம்ருது
Mother breastfeeds
This is the elixir
Rain water is elixir for life.
Am am Ammam mother milk
Am am amuthu
Amudu---Amirtu
Mella methu= soft
Methu --mrthu
Tamil words were slightly changed to Sanskrit.
Kanchipuram Tamil Nadu Birthplace of Sanskrit.
Jewish Brahmins who lived 3000 years ago also spoke Tamil.
The narrator only Knows Marathi?? No other language exists?? 😂😂
When it comes to pronouncing ' ऋ ' one can say , it lies between ' र ' and ' रु'.
प्रमाण भाषेपेक्षा बोली भाषा अधिक सम्रुद्ध आहेत.
बोली भाषेला "शुद्ध" असल्याचा पुरावा द्यावा लागत नाही, म्हणून असेल कदाचित. माहित नाही, बुवा! पण तुमच्या विचाराने बुद्धीला चालना नक्की मिळाली आहे! त्याबद्दल धन्यवाद!
- श्रीकांत.
@@TheFutureIQएक विडिओ मराठी भाषेबद्दल पूर्ण चांगली माहिती देणारा बनवा. Btw तुमच्या अक्षरांच्या उच्चारावरून वाटलंच होतं तुम्ही मराठी आहात 😁
Bija aksharas also develop our subtle system, all chakras in the body
Perfection always starts as imperfection
So sanskrit is not mother of all languages but a result of perfection of phonetic and written language.
@@orangesite7625 no it's not mother all of languages so shut it
@@sunilzizou bro r u blind?
@@orangesite7625 don't be Naive buddy, sanskrit influence is the because of the religion otherwise we have better languages
@@sunilzizouu Dumb or what? Even apart religious beleif sanskrit has most defined grammar in the world
@@RajmaChawal_gang until you know grammar of other languages, just lookup tamizh for example, sanskrit is way inferior to tamizh
Guys don't tell lise without proofs.. There is no evidence.
My teachers didn’t teach these at all, and I went to DAV!!!
But my did... I also went to DAV 🙂
I went to a convention but came to realise these before myself.
Irony is greatnes of Sanskrit / Devnagri tipic is discussed in one of the funniest langauge known as ENGLISH 😂
Informative as well as entertaining also...
Excellent 👌
Thank you
-navin
मराठी ✅ जय महाराष्ट्र 🚩
Sanskrit is DEAD so much for the perfect claim😂
No there are villages in India that still speaks sanskrit
you must be tamil, that's why crying
Sanskrit Grammar is still the greatest intellectual achievement in the field of Language studies . Basic principles on Sounds , AKSHARAs , SANDHIs , SAAMAS , and CASE Grammar are true for other languages .
@@shivmohan99681 you must be living under the rocks I think, thats why denying
@@Bharatyodhha buddy just Google and see what dead language means
Please stop talking about Sanskrit and start talking in Sanskrit.
There are now literally thousands of sources to learn Samskritam and zero excuses.
You should’ve written this in Sanskrit, but here we are 🤷🏽♀️
It’s a humungous task for those corrupted by english
tamil has similar alphabets and grammer compared to hindi,sanskruth,marathi.
but westerners claimed sanskrit to be more similar to english than tamil.
why language experts like you hesitate to challenge such nonsense?
@@common-sense99 yes coz sanskrit and english branch out from the indo-European Language family
@@sunilzizou this classification was done in 1700 by english person who knew only english and none of indian languages.its a pity our minds are still in slave mode
Tamizh ❤
Ta tha da dha na row vowels were found in Telugu until last century.
Oh... Any idea why they went away?
@@TheFutureIQ Due to difficulty in usage and alternative pronunciations for the existing words using common sounds. Also, to begin with there were very few words with those sounds. Vowel La sounds
@@TheFutureIQbecause they weren't actually existing sounds in pure telugu or native telugu words, they been used for using sanskrit words eventually ppl come down to telugu and Sanskrit common sounds, there were other sounds that has no use in daily
@@invisible9299 But as a concept I have studied them in my Telugu classes in school. Long ago.
@@krishnaats7141 many sounds and words from different languages are now part of standard or modern telugu to cover all aspects irrespective of orgin
I simply love your content!
I’m from Tamilnadu. So proud to say this as my mother tongue is oldest language in the world and mother of all the languages 😊
No it's Telugu
@@HD-ms3zu what Telugu ? 😂
🤡🤡🤡
If you learn Linguistics you will understand there is no single oldest language or single root for all languages . There are nearly 7000 languages in the world which are classified in to 147 language families depending on different roots they have. Eg - The root of Sino tibetan language family is proto sino tibetan language , root of indo aryan language family is vedic sanskrit and so on. ❤
Well the Indian sub Continent drifted from Africa ! @PurkaitSujay-hj2kw
Why is the guy in the red shirt overacting?
Maybe he's actually surprised..
Knowledge without Pride/glory feeling is the only problem in our country. I found this from these two guys talk.
I believe pride is never good.
Nationalism and pride dumbfies you
Wait for the Tamil periyarwadi nationalist to show up. Lol
My school teacher said using sh has to be instinctive and habit.
If you want to really know the different way to pronounce श स ष get to know Andhra Telugu person at e least 50+ years age and listen to him make the three sounds one after another , it’s not me but Gandhi was the first to notice and talk about this
Tamizh is much richer and awesome language than Sanskrit.
Why are Tamils so competitive and fixated when it comes to their language 😢😊
@@dandurban9123 it's simple coz they give sanskrit all the credits that rightfully belong to tamizh
I agree
Tamil is Different ❤
🫂🙋🏻♂️
All the languages are distinct, different and beautiful in their own ways.
I feel bad for the red shirt guy and all Indian people who didn't know about this before because it is not a magic that he showed here it is a pattern which is also mention in our व्याकरण book the types of स्वर और व्यंजन but unfortunately we all are just focusing on English then how would we get to know about this all . Then definitely it will lead to 'wonder'🤧
That may be am indication that Sanskrit is an artificial language - ie. that it was never widely spoken. Natural languages have imperfections and colloquialisms, and the more widely it is spoken, the more of these there are. It is likely therefore that the more widely spoken language did havd these imperfections, and when Sanskrit became a dead language other than for religious use, it was cleaned up and rationalised by those who learned it in a formal environment.
Why was this recommended, you're wrong about a lot of things. Sanskrit isn't any perfect than the other languages, also it's just the common ancestor of Indic languages not all.
In William jones ‘ s words - more refined and copious than Greek and Latin, that way perfect, you can’t refine any language than
Sanskrit, the word it self means “refined” for lack of a better description
चार अक्षर य, र, ल, व अर्ध स्वर. (half vowels) कहलाते हैं।
यि, यी =इ, ई
रु, रू = , ऋ यहां छोटा वाला ऋ नहीं मिला।
ल्रु, र्लू = , लृ यहां भी छोटा वाला लृ नहीं मिला।
वु, वू = उ, ऊ
Again क् + ऋ = कृ
प् + ऋ = पृ
Most sceitific script in the world.
Educative.
I’m from Tamilnadu. So proud to say this as my mother tongue is oldest language in the world and mother of all the languages 😊
English me hindi ki baat ho rahi hai😂 means junglee log scientific baaten karte hue very true.😅
Talk in hindi or in sanskrit for better impact. I don't know if we are doing any service to Sanskrit by teaching it in English. The irony is, I'm telling you all of this in english. I wish one day sanskrit would not only be the language of fascination and intrigue but a regular thing in our lives.
If Hebrew can be resurrected after millennia by the combined endeavour of the Jews in Israel why can't we Hindus for the sake of our Sanskriti resurrect Sanskrit!? 😌
Because Hindus does not have Mono Culture like Jews do, Hindus are very diverse, and many cultures in Hindus do not consider Sanskrit to be a divine language for their rituals.
Sanskrit is a great language and much as I wish more oad more people spoke it, India is a diverse country with so many varied cultures and regional religious customs.Deities worshipped vary from region to region.Many regional languages are almost as old as Sanskrit and have scripts even older.
Support your views
Then why didn't you comment in Sanskrit but used English? 😂they need more views and reach and it had to be in English, which without any doubt is the global language currently (also the language that connects the Indians)
*நீண்ட ஆயுள் வாழ தமிழ் பழங்குங்கள்*
Tamil is not scientific language
@@akhokhar9366 *PROOVE UR ARGUMENT*
@@PerumPalli அவர்களால் வெறுக்கவும் வயிற்றெரிச்சல் படவும் மட்டும் தான் முடியும்..😊
😂😂
The person in red dress is very irritating .he washed away importance of subjects
I’m from Tamilnadu. So proud to say this as my mother tongue is oldest language in the world and mother of all the languages 😊
It may be oldest language but how can it be the mother of all the language?
@@bibhutijena3383
Our PM Modi ji said it is the first language of world. Tamil and Prakrit(Mother of Sanskrit) shares almost same vocabulary and you see Tamil words in all languages of India also Africa , korea and few in English (Ex: catamaran )
😂nice jok, prakrit was deriveed from vedic sanskrit and not the other way round.@@paveekazhagana3106
Kannada is older than Tamil
@@sandeerao86
Sorry bro. It would be nice if you share some evidence
Brilliant, this has really explained beautifully thanks
Such videos should be used our teachers so that our children will love to learn the language
Hardcore hindus can't digest the fact that Sanskrit is a almost dead language
@@jharnarani6641 there is no language on the planet you can say it's a mother of all languages!
But arabic is the world's 5th biggest languages in the world! And also one of the six languages of United Nations!
It's live language,
Around 400 million across 25 countries speak Arabic. Moreover, over 1.5 billion people can read Arabic even if they can't understand the language!
Quran is in Arabic and it's compulsory for 2 BILLION Muslims of the world to read it at least once in a lifetime, soo we learn it to read and almost 75% of Muslims can read Quranic Arabic,
I am a Indian Muslim and I can Also read it but I don't understand
Only in speaking, but alive daily in prayers.
As long as the wind, the call of the bird, the barking of the dog, the ripple of the water, the rustling of the leaves and everything else in nature will exist, Sanskrit will exist. Because Sanskrit IS nature crystallised into an alphabet system.
But if you are happy thinking what you think, tathastu. :)
Kannada has the greatest number of alphabets than any Indian Languages. Any Indian word can be written and pronounced in Kannada exactly the same way it is pronounced in native Indian language.
Finally learnt the difference between श and ष. Thank you so much. And a word which often uses लृ is क्लृप्ती. So may be लृ is not that outdated. That apart, kudos to Navin Sir's depth of research and Shrikant's tenaciousness. 😀👌🏻
Sanskriti was so great that if you were not uppercaste you had your tounge cut for attempting to learn it. 😂😂😂
Sanjay recited whole geeta in Sanskrit. ...and ordinary cowherd girls sang whole gopigeet in Sanskrit.....there tongues remaned intact I think
I'm making sure that my children's hindi teachers get to see this podcast
Narrative aryan type😂😂
Sanskirt is indo iranian language😂😂😂😂. Sanskirt sucks
Sanskrit is not an Indian Language.
Plz ..talk some sense,,not uter bul..how many text apart from Indian have ever mentioned it??
Plz X 100000….
Didn't sancrit have an order to it so the linguists just made a approximate default place and manner of articulation chart?