Hey friends, I don’t think I should have to say this but apparently there are adults in the room that think it’s appropriate to speak about a child’s weight. Do not feel comfortable on my platform to weight shame children or really anyone for that matter. I pride myself on being very accepting & commenting on a child’s weight is incredibly damaging. Imagine if that was your child. Or better yet, imagine if it was you. I’ve already deleted 5 comments. Thanks!
The parentification of these kids is gross. Her oldest daughters seem to be in some form of arrested development. They’ll have a lot of trauma and a hell of a story to tell if they get free from the grip of Kody and Robyn.
This is what C-PTSD looks like. These young women don’t stand a chance of healing until (1) they leave their abusers; (2) completely cut contact with said abusers; and (3) get extensive therapy. I see a lot of myself in Robyn’s older girls. The trauma bond and a life filled with fear is so strong that someone needs to help them get away.
As a normal monogamous, I am a mother of 6. It used to piss me off in the beginning seasons when Kody would act like Robyn needed so much help, she didn't, she was just pathetic. I have never ever made my oldest children responsible for my youngest-they didn't choose to have a big family, my husband and I did. It's our job and our job only!
@Petra-R I hope that bio-dad can reconnect with all of his children, and I am very sorry about anybody having any type of cancer. These young women need to get away from their controlling mother, whose agenda is very questionable, and focus on launching their adult lives. They desperately need a safe launch pad away from polygamy. They also need to make "peace" (bad word choice) with their bio-dad. The death of a parent is always difficult. Robyn is a piece of work, but her 3 adult children are lovely people who deserve good lives. The one thing this show has proven is that the polygamy lifestyle is not sustainable or for the. faint of heart.
I still want to know why Robyn had a need for a nanny which makes no sense except I assume she only wants to be pregnant and have babies and not have to raise them 🤷🏼♀️ we have 5 children and yes! My husband and I raised our children 😮
They honestly seem scared and intimidated. They so desperately want to please their family and do the right thing. They are not living their own lives. They also know their family is under public scrutiny and they have to deal with Kody and Robin. That's a lot for anyone. They haven't seen much else, not much experience of their own, except they were rejected by their father and the OG family (according to them). Their manners reminds of a young teenager. I guess Kody and Robin finds that sweet and innocent? Hopefully, they are not like Kody & Robin. They seemed to always have been self-serving and manipulative.
Have we talked about how hard jenelle was trying to get the teenagers in a church group when they first moved to Vegas and robin was so "thats not what we believe, we shouldnt do that" but now shes church shopping for her kids? That alone shows her control issues.
Robyn was new to the family and she way overstepped her boundaries. She yelled at Maddie and told her if she doesn't sign the commitment paper, that she will get kicked out. If I was Janelle, we would've had words.
Okay, when Kody was talking about the ratio of children to adults. Solomon was in the background hacking away at a log with that hatchet. Meanwhile, a grown-ass adult FEMALE needs to be supervised and taught by Kody. The gender differences here are so prevalent.
the adult women can stay living at home because in , polygamy world, the little girls are assets to be traded to other men for their adult daughters that’s why he hasn’t kicked them out. Also I believe Kooter would LOVE TO HAVE BOTH WOMEN BREE AND Aurora as new wives. He is SICK! SOBBYN has raised this mentally handicapped adult women to be afraid of EVERYYHING PLUS THEY ARE SOOOO DEPRESSED THEY CAN’T even speak with out crying!! The adult girls and the nanny had to keep the small ones away from SOBBYN and Kooter bedroom door!!
Robyn wants her kids to think for themselves, but she won't let them out of her sight. And Kody wants them to think for themselves as long as they agree with him 100%
The blonde hair daughter looks constantly petrified. Their severe anxieties don't make sense unless there is something REALLY bad happening at that house.
My guess is the older 2 look and sound like that because they likely get lectured hard about what to say and how to act. They get interviewed occasionally, and the younger ones don't. They are probably scared to say or do something wrong. Whether they'll face some sort of punishment who knows. But they may be threatened with it or told the longevity of the show/income stream depends on them not saying certain things or acting a certain way.
Same here. Even Christine recently extolled the virtues of being an independent woman which cracked me up because she left Kody and IMMEDIATELY went searching for her next husband.
Because it's called parenting and family and raising children to learn responsibilities and family values through chores and age appropriate activities contributions to family and home working together something this generation and society likes to demonize. Now in a cult and true abusive neglectful situations that's different I'm so tired of seeds of doubt in children about good families and old school values it's ruining families and adult children
Absolutely true, but Logan and Aspyn had mothers that showed love and affection. That’s why they were able to make it out in the world. Robyn’s daughters are being abused by both parents, they won’t faire as well.
I'm glad you commented on the blue picnic tables. I would guarantee this was production. The blue tables are visually interesting for this pretty boring scene. They picked blue because it is a high contrast color compared to the natural background. It also makes the green grass look lush and greener than it actually is. So that's why all the furniture including the folding chairs are blue....
How interesting! I kept thinking how weird it was they painted it blue instead of something like brown or green like most tables at parks in my area. Clearly this show is way more curated then they are letting on. It did seem a bit fake to many audience members, and it pretty much is. Lol.
One of Christine's daughters also lived with Kody and Robyn in Vegas. I can't remember if it was Aspen or Ysabel after she had Sol. Robyn also had her cousin Mindy for several years.
Robyn’s head looks like it’s square. I’ve never thought she was attractive. Her and Kody belong together both wearing orange jumpsuits. I can’t wait to hear when they both get arrested.
@corriegolightly8433 Yes, the treatment of the OG3's children is despicable, but they are free to make adult lives of their own choice. Robyn's girls are not allowed out of the house to go to a church function on their own.
You hit the nail on the head, Katie. If Kody likes you no matter what you say and do, it is fine. If he doesn't like you and you do or say the same thing, Kody ostracizes you for your opinions or actions. It wore Christine out. She justified it when he was mistreating her, but once he started to treat her kids worse and worse, she couldn't put up with it anymore. Same with Janelle. As soon as Christine was gone, Janelle and her kids became the next to be treated poorly by Kody. I continually say I've seen coaches and managers do the same thing. And what happens when these people are bullied? They leave and the cycle continues and everyone is on pins and needles, hoping they aren't the next to be bullied and picked on.
I babysat starting at the age of 11 and did so until I was 21. The experience of babysitting is the primary reason I chose not to have children of my own. I babysat to earn money to fund my dog showing habit. I 'm 60 y.o. now and I still raise dogs. I have never once regretted my decision to choose dogs.
I am a childfree cat lady of 2 . I grew up with Scottish Terriers . I loved accompanying my mom to dog shows. She showed in Obedience but I have seen lots of Confirmation shows as well.
I am the oldest of five children and so I was the babysitter, the house cleaner, did the laundry, etc. I could not go out on Saturday mornings until the whole house was clean and the laundry was done. No child should be expected to have adult responsibilities. Children grow up so quickly and they don’t get a chance to be a child.
I disagree, a few chores even once a week shouldn't be the end of the world.kids need to learn some form of responsibility before you send them out into the real world.
This Coyote Pass picnic was so forced and awkward. They have no storyline. It is so boring. Painting picnic tables? Really? They are grasping at straws. The two older girls are so oppressed, it is scary!
Everytime they show Robyn's family their scenes are always so forced and strange. It's like they try to mimic how happy families act, but they're not getting it right. It's boring and weird.
Ya. Nothing new. Robyn needed a nanny when they were in Vegas because she needed to be alone with Kody to put HIM first. And she did this as a flex on the OG3 that were actually raising their children with only support of their sister wives. So over that woman.
I still remember when the 4th wife said the other wife's had let themselves go with stretch marks and being overweight. It looks like that happened to her also. The OG were 10 + years older than her, and now she is at the same age as they were. I wonder if she feels bad about her statement now. I wouldn't say anything usually, but she is the one to say this first. very toxic person, and she isn't safe to be around.
@@daniellegriffiths7859 Someone needs to help the youngest daughter with her weight now because it could really get much worse, if it's not addressed.
Am I the only one who really does not think that land is beautiful?? It’s barren , and nasty and that pond is gross - there are so many beautiful places in AZ - the view of the mountain in the distance is pretty - but that’s about it
Good Grief ,those Girls can barely look Kody in the eye they look down, up ,across but not straight at him .. Bonnie and Clyde have affected those Girls mental health so much that they have lost their ability to Function in everyday life, they look and act so lost and scared .
Very true. These girls are constantly walking on eggshells not to trigger kody and Robin’s reaction and anger. They are scared to death They are mentally underdeveloped and have been brainwashed and manipulated. They are not prepared for the outside world of adults and can’t even think for themselves
Another thought…I don’t think the ex wives would even want all their kids to be watched by Robyn. The OG kids are strong, independent, confident, hard workers that have very strong opinions and aren’t afraid to speak their mind. It’s night and day compared to Robyn’s. They would have no freedom to grow under Robyn’s paranoid, overprotective, controlling style of parenting. So they dodged a bullet there!
Their voices are so similar. I thought Robyn was complimenting her daughter for bringing tongs and saying her daughter had mom skills. Then her daughter responded by saying, basically, I got them from watching my siblings.
I feel like the "acceptance" of Brianna bashing polygamy is only for the cameras. It feels to me that she doesn't seem very sure that she can express herself honestly. She seems hesitant, in my opinion. I think the girls are only getting "freedom" right now so there is content for the show. They were totally sheltered until Kody and Robyn had to pull their own weight in content.
I'm pretty sure Cody wouldn't allow Robbin to have friends even if they were just hanger-oners. He's a man baby and his ego can't handle not having her attention 100% of the time.
You are absolutely correct Katie. Both my parents were narcissists and I stayed 40 years with a malignant narcissist/sociopath. These children are in a destructive cult. So sad and so hard to get out, let alone heal. It’s a lifetime of misery if those children don’t get out. I raised my brother being only 3,5 years older. I was the biggest codependent people pleaser. 32 years of therapy and still untangling the webs of deceit and destruction. Now I am a narc slayer.
Kody only has 4 kids he cares about. As soon as they have an opinion he drops them. The whole discussion about how many kids, was gross. Kody doesn't belong in their decision either, only their partners. Who knows when that will happen.
“… it’s a snack, not a meal!” I guess she doesn’t have those restrictions anymore. This goes to show how incredibly controlling, manipulative and restrictive she was when the OG children were around.
“It’s cool seeing your kids think independently “ ..uummm answering a question about if you want kids isn’t what I’d consider thinking independently, a five year old can answer simple questions like that
Wow!!! And she needed a nanny?? No wonder they won't let the girls leave. And the way Kody and Robyn both speak to Ariela about getting paint on herself.
@@bogletree225 Yeah I noticed that too and it seems like they see their mother sad all the time and their father doesn't hide his anger or his negative emotions so they are constantly being exposed to adult problems, it's no wonder they are showing depression signs.
They mostly likely are majorly stunted emotionally for their age, thanks to their parents. Remember the youngest was treated like a baby just bc she's their last one, sucking her thumb and talking babyish. They treat all of them like young children so they are going to act younger than they really are.
Kody doesn’t talk to Aurora and Breanna like they are his daughters. He talks to them like a guy talking to girls. A guy who might be interested. He is really disgusting. And Robyn is a fool for thinking she is the only female in that family who Kody craves attention from. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dayton finds it gross and that’s why he is gone.
Children should not have their parents responsibility of the babies. I had to help at twelve for my adopted brother. My husband to take care of his sister when he was nine. Very selfish of parents to take their children's youth from them.
He feeds his kids hotdogs because they are cheap. He doesn’t invest in his kids health. They need better food than super super processed meats and day old bakery bread etc
I don't think I buy this whole conversation as anything more than PR manipulation of the girls. Kody is so gross to even discuss this. Ari and Sol are just props in this clip.
There’s a difference between older siblings helping in the household and with younger kids, and expecting them to run a household and/or care for their siblings alone.
Katie, like you, I was the neighborhood babysitter and the family caregiver. I missed a lot and I often wonder how could my mother have allowed it. She never thought to help me grow up to have my own life. I was a responsible and well liked child. Even so it was scary at times and exhausting. It took away from my schoolwork and social life. Funny though I was popular, active in school, and a pretty good student. I even went on to college with no help or guidance. I think because I was independent I was just less of a worry. My parents were young and did not know any better. The younger siblings had a different life because I spoke up for them. It did damage to me. This is definitely a regret of mine. Thank you for sharing Katie.
Doesn't Robyn like to spew"wait until your frontal lobe is developed" or is it just me?? Now it's different rules to Robyns kids and this fake "you can have an opinion" they disgust me 🤢🤮
I was babysitting at 12 years old, but that was for neighbors kids. Not my brother and sister. I only remember a couple times that my parents said I was in charge of my sister 15 months younger and my brother 8 years younger when they had an appointment somewhere. A school friend who lived down the road from us had 13 siblings and she dropped out of high school moved out and got married to get away from taking care of everyone and all the housework.
I really think that they should be ashamed. That property is not just theirs. And when Kody constantly has to show off grosses me out. Her daughters are already brainwashed. Kody asking his non biological girls about how many children they'll have is wrong. And didn't she have Mykelti move in to babysit?
And where was the oldest son? They never spoke on why he isn't in the family anymore. Yet they air out Jenelle's kids issues they had with Robyn or Kody but never mention Dayton I'm pretty sure he is embarrassed by Kody and Robyn
Nothing wrong with no brand. Same ingredients, do they all taste the same?no. I used to be a brand whore but now I like no name brand stuff food and luxuries
I'm not sure where you are coming from with the Robyn's kids get to have their own thoughts line. The kids always seem terrified of saying the wrong thing, or of wanting something that Kody does not approve of.
did anyone notice that when kody and sobyn were giving their "you need to make babies" lecture" that kody's youngest son was away on his own swinging the axe and chopping wood? no one was watching or teaching him.. I really cant stand kody and sobyn and everything that has ever been between sobyns legs x
I'm still in shock that these girls are clueless on what is being done to them. I sure the schools have computers so how are they SO Nieve to all of this, can anyone answer this question? I mean they are old enough to leave. It's SAD
Maybe they fill their heads with horror stories about the internet? Maybe they've told them they're being tracked at school...and they're afraid they'll be caught? I don't know.
They are adults that have went to public school their whole lives and public college. They drive, have cell phones and the internet. I'm not buying their naive innocent act. If they're so sweet and innocent, why does Brianna ignore Savannah at school like she's too good for her? Look how snotty they were in Janelle's trailer that day, their masks slipped. Robyn wants everyone to think she's so shy and innocent ( which she's not) and she wants the viewers to think her daughters are also. There's no way they can be that blind about the rest of the family and believe all of Robyn's lies. It's a choice they're making to parrot Robyn's lies about the rest of the family. They also chose to have nothing to do with their step-siblings. It's pretty messed up. They have no empathy for their step-siblings that were abandoned.
Hey friends,
I don’t think I should have to say this but apparently there are adults in the room that think it’s appropriate to speak about a child’s weight. Do not feel comfortable on my platform to weight shame children or really anyone for that matter.
I pride myself on being very accepting & commenting on a child’s weight is incredibly damaging. Imagine if that was your child. Or better yet, imagine if it was you.
I’ve already deleted 5 comments. Thanks!
Thank you:)
Well handled.
Children are always off limits
@@cindypassmore725yes!!
Thank you!
The parentification of these kids is gross. Her oldest daughters seem to be in some form of arrested development. They’ll have a lot of trauma and a hell of a story to tell if they get free from the grip of Kody and Robyn.
YES!
Robin’s kids have an odd affect and way of speaking. They all seem so subdued in contrast to Kody being so over the top gregarious.
Arrested development is the perfect wording for what appears to be wrong with these girls. They truly seem....off.
This is what C-PTSD looks like. These young women don’t stand a chance of healing until (1) they leave their abusers; (2) completely cut contact with said abusers; and (3) get extensive therapy. I see a lot of myself in Robyn’s older girls. The trauma bond and a life filled with fear is so strong that someone needs to help them get away.
They talk in their interviews like they’re hostages afraid of repercussions if they say the wrong thing.
As a normal monogamous, I am a mother of 6. It used to piss me off in the beginning seasons when Kody would act like Robyn needed so much help, she didn't, she was just pathetic. I have never ever made my oldest children responsible for my youngest-they didn't choose to have a big family, my husband and I did. It's our job and our job only!
Robyn's daughters need to go visit their Dad, so they can start their adult lives.
But hasn’t he leukemia or some other illness? Its so sad. I hope he can reconnect with his kids before he passes
@@Petra-RI didn't know that's sad to hear
@Petra-R I hope that bio-dad can reconnect with all of his children, and I am very sorry about anybody having any type of cancer. These young women need to get away from their controlling mother, whose agenda is very questionable, and focus on launching their adult lives. They desperately need a safe launch pad away from polygamy. They also need to make "peace" (bad word choice) with their bio-dad. The death of a parent is always difficult. Robyn is a piece of work, but her 3 adult children are lovely people who deserve good lives. The one thing this show has proven is that the polygamy lifestyle is not sustainable or for the. faint of heart.
Breanna seemed almost scared to say anything against polygamy. She always seems like she has to walk on eggshells around her parents
Notice her speech?
@@NevermindjessI do and I thought it was because she's uncomfortable with being on camera
I agree that poor woman (Breanna)looks like she’s seriously depressed sad and down trodden.
She does. Both Kody and Robyn are narcissists , you walk on egg shells around them.
Still don't understand why Robyn had a nanny.
Because she’s too self-absorbed to be bothered with actually doing the work with her kids.
I still want to know why Robyn had a need for a nanny which makes no sense except I assume she only wants to be pregnant and have babies and not have to raise them 🤷🏼♀️ we have 5 children and yes! My husband and I raised our children 😮
Because she is lazy. Didn't see her doing anything during the whole clip
What. Does the.Nanny.Do?
Too busy shopping for more expensive stuff
I love that Brianna says "I dont want to bash on polygamy, i just don't think it works"!🙌🏼
So that Robin can cry and scream that this is christine's fault
@@inggrid6911exactly. Kids pay attention and are smart.
Why would Robyn want that life for her daughters? Nasty.
These daughters seem to be very emotionally stunted!
Yes they can barely talk and cry on cue. It is sad!
Extremely so. Boy, one day their world is going to crack open. And they are so unprepared.
They honestly seem scared and intimidated. They so desperately want to please their family and do the right thing. They are not living their own lives. They also know their family is under public scrutiny and they have to deal with Kody and Robin. That's a lot for anyone.
They haven't seen much else, not much experience of their own, except they were rejected by their father and the OG family (according to them). Their manners reminds of a young teenager. I guess Kody and Robin finds that sweet and innocent?
Hopefully, they are not like Kody & Robin. They seemed to always have been self-serving and manipulative.
Have we talked about how hard jenelle was trying to get the teenagers in a church group when they first moved to Vegas and robin was so "thats not what we believe, we shouldnt do that" but now shes church shopping for her kids? That alone shows her control issues.
Robyn was new to the family and she way overstepped her boundaries. She yelled at Maddie and told her if she doesn't sign the commitment paper, that she will get kicked out. If I was Janelle, we would've had words.
And I don’t think she sees the irony
@@laneneal3510 I know, Robyn has zero self awareness .
Kody was the 19th child, not the fifth parent.
From the first episode I thought he acted like a bratty middle school kid, the youngest grade of middle school.
LOL 😂
Okay, when Kody was talking about the ratio of children to adults. Solomon was in the background hacking away at a log with that hatchet. Meanwhile, a grown-ass adult FEMALE needs to be supervised and taught by Kody. The gender differences here are so prevalent.
How are these girls still allowed to live at home? Has he forgot the whole- “they are adults, bye, bye 👋. The double standard makes me sick!
Robyn's children have different rules.
the adult women can stay living at home because in , polygamy world, the little girls are assets to be traded to other men for their adult daughters that’s why he hasn’t kicked them out. Also I believe Kooter would LOVE TO HAVE BOTH WOMEN BREE AND Aurora as new wives. He is SICK! SOBBYN has raised this mentally handicapped adult women to be afraid of EVERYYHING PLUS THEY ARE SOOOO DEPRESSED THEY CAN’T even speak with out crying!! The adult girls and the nanny had to keep the small ones away from SOBBYN and Kooter bedroom door!!
Robyn wants her kids to think for themselves, but she won't let them out of her sight. And Kody wants them to think for themselves as long as they agree with him 100%
These two older girls always seem so unhappy, especially Breanna. It’s like she’s just an inch away from tears.
So true, they look absolutely miserable
The blonde hair daughter looks constantly petrified. Their severe anxieties don't make sense unless there is something REALLY bad happening at that house.
I think she's the most like Robyn, meaning victim complex.
Robyn’s a covert narcissist (more damaging than a grandiose narcissist), and her daughter is terrified of mommy dearest.
The parental alienation as small children really damaged them too.
Anxiety gets passed down to children from parents, even in idyllic family situations. Anxiety is intense that way.
My guess is the older 2 look and sound like that because they likely get lectured hard about what to say and how to act. They get interviewed occasionally, and the younger ones don't. They are probably scared to say or do something wrong. Whether they'll face some sort of punishment who knows. But they may be threatened with it or told the longevity of the show/income stream depends on them not saying certain things or acting a certain way.
I hate when women say they NEED to find a man. No, you don't! Get to know yourself. Let love find you.
@@MISERABLE66 same
Same here. Even Christine recently extolled the virtues of being an independent woman which cracked me up because she left Kody and IMMEDIATELY went searching for her next husband.
Meri will attract another creep like kody
I hope Meri finds a great man! She deserves it! She paid for weddings, college for the other kids
Is this show still on?
It wasn’t only the girls. Logan cooked breakfast and got the kids ready for school.
Look at him now. Has no children. Same with Aspyn. Don’t blame them, either.
The moms were all nuts to have so many children with Cody!! Yulk
Because it's called parenting and family and raising children to learn responsibilities and family values through chores and age appropriate activities contributions to family and home working together something this generation and society likes to demonize. Now in a cult and true abusive neglectful situations that's different I'm so tired of seeds of doubt in children about good families and old school values it's ruining families and adult children
Absolutely true, but Logan and Aspyn had mothers that showed love and affection. That’s why they were able to make it out in the world. Robyn’s daughters are being abused by both parents, they won’t faire as well.
I've known several people that grew up as the oldest child in large families. They either don't have kids at all or only one or two at most.
Was it just me or did Kody completely told on himself when he said “I just brought the kids out for the labor”
He sure did
Yes, that was the first thing I noticed. I wish I could think it was a joke, but it wasn't, was it?
Yes he is such a slime.
@@LindseyGlasmanAbsolutely, he inadvertently told the truth, though he thought he was joking!
That fake, forced family fun 😂
that is exactly what it was. They needed content for the family.
Like the game night. Obviously staged.
Oh man when I watch it's like I'm on autopilot. Yes it was staged
Look how nervous brianna looks when answering him.
Those kids need to break free & make millions off of their own story!
Kody and Robyn have really screwed these kids up. It's so damn creepy.
I'm glad you commented on the blue picnic tables. I would guarantee this was production. The blue tables are visually interesting for this pretty boring scene. They picked blue because it is a high contrast color compared to the natural background. It also makes the green grass look lush and greener than it actually is. So that's why all the furniture including the folding chairs are blue....
And they're even wearing blue!!! I was noticing how everything seemed sort of matchy-matchy. It makes sense it's basically just set design!
Thought the same. Retired marketing exec with both graphic and Copy (writing chops). My skills predate tech but its nice to see the basics followed).
@@TroyCanDance I respect your skills and still find your comment. Funny at the same time.😂
How interesting! I kept thinking how weird it was they painted it blue instead of something like brown or green like most tables at parks in my area. Clearly this show is way more curated then they are letting on. It did seem a bit fake to many audience members, and it pretty much is. Lol.
@@jennytonic000the clothes fittings all look off to like they were provided for filming 😂 all the same color palette and matching
Looks like soloman and Ariella are left out of filming and were told to keep their mouths shut and away from the cameras
Also Makelti was moved into Robins house before they were married to help with her with the three she already had.
One of Christine's daughters also lived with Kody and Robyn in Vegas. I can't remember if it was Aspen or Ysabel after she had Sol. Robyn also had her cousin Mindy for several years.
Robyn is pretty pointless
And Robyn didn’t work!
@@laneneal3510Ever!!!!
Mykelti lived with Robyn at one time, too. I'm sure she had to watch the children while Robyn took care of her best customer.
Robyn never raised any of those 5 kids! Why wouldn’t those girls want a litter of kids?😊
Kody and Robyn’s hypocrisy shines so bright that it’s blinding.
Is it me, or is Robyn not aging well?
She is not aging well. 🥂
Robyn’s head looks like it’s square. I’ve never thought she was attractive. Her and Kody belong together both wearing orange jumpsuits. I can’t wait to hear when they both get arrested.
The Diesel Jeans girl turned into a Diesel Truck
@@xxVickiVikingxx🤣😛🥹
She’s not
How can the children from the ex-wives not feel neglected or replaced? My heart would be broken if I was any of them!
I agree, I feel bad for the the children that were abandoned.
They were 100% abandoned. They are the children not the PARENTS and Kody doesn’t know how to be a parent 💯💯💯
@corriegolightly8433 Yes, the treatment of the OG3's children is despicable, but they are free to make adult lives of their own choice. Robyn's girls are not allowed out of the house to go to a church function on their own.
You hit the nail on the head, Katie. If Kody likes you no matter what you say and do, it is fine. If he doesn't like you and you do or say the same thing, Kody ostracizes you for your opinions or actions. It wore Christine out. She justified it when he was mistreating her, but once he started to treat her kids worse and worse, she couldn't put up with it anymore. Same with Janelle. As soon as Christine was gone, Janelle and her kids became the next to be treated poorly by Kody. I continually say I've seen coaches and managers do the same thing. And what happens when these people are bullied? They leave and the cycle continues and everyone is on pins and needles, hoping they aren't the next to be bullied and picked on.
I babysat starting at the age of 11 and did so until I was 21. The experience of babysitting is the primary reason I chose not to have children of my own. I babysat to earn money to fund my dog showing habit. I 'm 60 y.o. now and I still raise dogs. I have never once regretted my decision to choose dogs.
I have a daughter who is grown. She has dogs and does shows. Tells me she doesn't want kids. That's ok...I have 3 granddogs.
My sister is the same way. She has Beaucerons, not babies! Haha.
And here I thought I was the only one!!
I am a childfree cat lady of 2 . I grew up with Scottish Terriers . I loved accompanying my mom to dog shows. She showed in Obedience but I have seen lots of Confirmation shows as well.
Dog spelled backwards is God. Dogs are pure love.
I am the oldest of five children and so I was the babysitter, the house cleaner, did the laundry, etc. I could not go out on Saturday mornings until the whole house was clean and the laundry was done. No child should be expected to have adult responsibilities. Children grow up so quickly and they don’t get a chance to be a child.
Oldest of 3 and 7 and 10 years older than my brothers. I'm in your boat , sister
I'm so sorry that was your reality. I hope you have gotten closure for yourself.
@staceygarofano i hope you have gotten closure.
I disagree, a few chores even once a week shouldn't be the end of the world.kids need to learn some form of responsibility before you send them out into the real world.
@kristinahuckabee9737 some days I think I have and others days, not so much. It's a process
This Coyote Pass picnic was so forced and awkward. They have no storyline. It is so boring. Painting picnic tables? Really? They are grasping at straws. The two older girls are so oppressed, it is scary!
Everytime they show Robyn's family their scenes are always so forced and strange. It's like they try to mimic how happy families act, but they're not getting it right. It's boring and weird.
Ya. Nothing new. Robyn needed a nanny when they were in Vegas because she needed to be alone with Kody to put HIM first. And she did this as a flex on the OG3 that were actually raising their children with only support of their sister wives. So over that woman.
Crybrows said he was her best customer. She had to keep him happy to live the “high life”
Kody and Robin wanted minions not family.
Robyn’s fake surprised expression about the response that 3-5 is considered large🙄. Dude, you have 5 kids?? What a moron🤣
MERI MERI MERI you do NOT need a man ! Lol never say you need a man , they are just a bonus in life if you get a good one .Love yourself .
I still remember when the 4th wife said the other wife's had let themselves go with stretch marks and being overweight. It looks like that happened to her also. The OG were 10 + years older than her, and now she is at the same age as they were. I wonder if she feels bad about her statement now. I wouldn't say anything usually, but she is the one to say this first. very toxic person, and she isn't safe to be around.
@@lynnfugate1294 Right, and where is Kody’s six pack abs? Karma, enough said.
Yes. Also the little girl looks so different. Not hating on a kid but yea weight gain happens and Robyn should have kept her mouth shut
No, she does not feel bad about anything she's said. Sobyn is an evil monster.
Yep! You become on the outside what you are on the inside.
@@daniellegriffiths7859 Someone needs to help the youngest daughter with her weight now because it could really get much worse, if it's not addressed.
Am I the only one who really does not think that land is beautiful?? It’s barren , and nasty and that pond is gross - there are so many beautiful places in AZ - the view of the mountain in the distance is pretty - but that’s about it
The pond is only a detention pond for runoff from the surrounding lots. I wouldn't get in that runoff water for love nor money.
View is nice but that plot is like you said barren
Notice how none of the older kids that had to be “parents” to the younger ones have children themselves? They need a break
That seems to be what Kody was thinking about when he made that comment Katie mentioned.
Except Maddie, who has multiple children.
The interaction this episode at Coyote Pass seemed unnatural and forced. I don't think this show will make it another year. 😮
It needs to be the last season.
For real. I feel like I was crazy obsessed with this show but this season and after Garrisons death I just can’t watch anymore.
@@courtney8880Same. I haven’t watched a single full episode this season. I just can’t. I’ll watch Katie’s videos, but that’s it.
Not with Sobin and Kody and their kids.
It should not
It’s getting closer and closer to being pronounced “Kody pass” 🤣
Good Grief ,those Girls can barely look Kody in the eye they look down, up ,across but not straight at him ..
Bonnie and Clyde have affected those Girls mental health so much that they have lost their ability to Function in everyday life, they look and act so lost and scared .
Very true. These girls are constantly walking on eggshells not to trigger kody and Robin’s reaction and anger. They are scared to death They are mentally underdeveloped and have been brainwashed and manipulated. They are not prepared for the outside world of adults and can’t even think for themselves
Another thought…I don’t think the ex wives would even want all their kids to be watched by Robyn. The OG kids are strong, independent, confident, hard workers that have very strong opinions and aren’t afraid to speak their mind. It’s night and day compared to Robyn’s. They would have no freedom to grow under Robyn’s paranoid, overprotective, controlling style of parenting. So they dodged a bullet there!
I would never trust Robyn with any of my kids, especially if they didn't have an older sibling there with them.
Their voices are so similar. I thought Robyn was complimenting her daughter for bringing tongs and saying her daughter had mom skills. Then her daughter responded by saying, basically, I got them from watching my siblings.
Did anybody catch how the one girl called him Kody? I thought he was dad. When did they start calling him Kody again?
Ooohhh! Good catch. I missed it.
Are they secretly rebelling against Kody and Robyn?
Oh I missed that too. When does she say that?
@@tinawilson9281 i’m not sure exactly what time, but it was when they were doing the picnic tables
I heard it and it made me laugh! 😂
Rules for thee not for me. Should be Robyn's mantra.
FINALLY! This is soo sick. What would we do without you Katie Joy?
I agree. Katie saves my sanity. I would lose my mind if I had to watch the show.
@@kristinahuckabee9737Me to. I depend on Katie to make that sacrifice so that I don’t have to. Thanks Katie Joy 🤗
If Kody has been cutting down trees on Meri or Janelle’s parcels he owes them money!
Ooohhh! Good point. I didn't even think of that. I wonder if Meri and Janelle have put that together.
It wasn't cut down on Coyote Pass, it was at Cootie & Sobbins house.
Meri and Janelle don't have parcels.
That picture of Kody looks evil and like a sicko. I worry about the older girls and Kody.
Edit: Where's Kody's 6 pack and Robyn's svelt figure? 😂😂
Those girls have the sad, almost crying look of Robyn. It's just so sad to watch these children be used for content.
the girls are adults and can leave
I feel like the "acceptance" of Brianna bashing polygamy is only for the cameras. It feels to me that she doesn't seem very sure that she can express herself honestly. She seems hesitant, in my opinion. I think the girls are only getting "freedom" right now so there is content for the show. They were totally sheltered until Kody and Robyn had to pull their own weight in content.
I think it's a blessing that Robyn did not raise her children. Any nanny is bound to do a better job.
Those kids are screwed. You can't tell still?
Congratulations on reaching 400,000 subscribers.
I'm pretty sure Cody wouldn't allow Robbin to have friends even if they were just hanger-oners. He's a man baby and his ego can't handle not having her attention 100% of the time.
In some states, that level of parentification is considered abuse. Sobyn better careful. But she's not that smart.
@1:36 Kody's gut! 😅😅 laughing "Janelle just wants me for my six pack"!
😂😂
He 😂has the “busted biscuit” figure
But wait! Doesn’t he have those all important 6 pack abs!?🤔🤣🤣🤣
@@madelineburns6405Great definition. Busted bisquits with three curls. So hideous looking
You are absolutely correct Katie. Both my parents were narcissists and I stayed 40 years with a malignant narcissist/sociopath. These children are in a destructive cult. So sad and so hard to get out, let alone heal. It’s a lifetime of misery if those children don’t get out.
I raised my brother being only 3,5 years older. I was the biggest codependent people pleaser. 32 years of therapy and still untangling the webs of deceit and destruction. Now I am a narc slayer.
Kody only has 4 kids he cares about. As soon as they have an opinion he drops them. The whole discussion about how many kids, was gross. Kody doesn't belong in their decision either, only their partners. Who knows when that will happen.
“… it’s a snack, not a meal!” I guess she doesn’t have those restrictions anymore. This goes to show how incredibly controlling, manipulative and restrictive she was when the OG children were around.
Any one else concerned that Sol is chopping wood without supervision?
“It’s cool seeing your kids think independently “ ..uummm answering a question about if you want kids isn’t what I’d consider thinking independently, a five year old can answer simple questions like that
Wow!!! And she needed a nanny?? No wonder they won't let the girls leave. And the way Kody and Robyn both speak to Ariela about getting paint on herself.
Kody moves around like he's had 5 Red Bulls.
He's probably untreated ADHD.
Robin’s girls look sad all the time. Maybe it’s just their resting faces? Idk. But they always seem pensive and worried.
@@bogletree225 Yeah I noticed that too and it seems like they see their mother sad all the time and their father doesn't hide his anger or his negative emotions so they are constantly being exposed to adult problems, it's no wonder they are showing depression signs.
Robyn needs to get off her back and get up and take care of HER children. And Kody too. Those children are their responsibility.
Robyn and her older girls have such flat affects. So annoying!
They speak so monotone, like they're sedated.
@@Lady.Scorpio7they need a job
@rncook2471 I agree.
Robbem also speaks this way
A symptom of depression.
ROBIN AND KODY HAVE NO STORY LINE. WHY ARE THEY GETTING PAID FOR A BORING INTERACTION. NOT LOVING HOTDOGS IS UNAMERICAN.
Cody moves in such a weird way when he is trying to do " man stuff "
The girls can't really think for themselves. Either Robyn or Kody talk for them. Why are even still at home? They're adults.
They mostly likely are majorly stunted emotionally for their age, thanks to their parents. Remember the youngest was treated like a baby just bc she's their last one, sucking her thumb and talking babyish. They treat all of them like young children so they are going to act younger than they really are.
Kody doesn’t talk to Aurora and Breanna like they are his daughters. He talks to them like a guy talking to girls. A guy who might be interested. He is really disgusting. And Robyn is a fool for thinking she is the only female in that family who Kody craves attention from. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dayton finds it gross and that’s why he is gone.
Children should not have their parents responsibility of the babies. I had to help at twelve for my adopted brother. My husband to take care of his sister when he was nine. Very selfish of parents to take their children's youth from them.
He feeds his kids hotdogs because they are cheap. He doesn’t invest in his kids health. They need better food than super super processed meats and day old bakery bread etc
I don't think I buy this whole conversation as anything more than PR manipulation of the girls. Kody is so gross to even discuss this. Ari and Sol are just props in this clip.
There’s a difference between older siblings helping in the household and with younger kids, and expecting them to run a household and/or care for their siblings alone.
Katie, like you, I was the neighborhood babysitter and the family caregiver. I missed a lot and I often wonder how could my mother have allowed it. She never thought to help me grow up to have my own life. I was a responsible and well liked child. Even so it was scary at times and exhausting. It took away from my schoolwork and social life. Funny though I was popular, active in school, and a pretty good student. I even went on to college with no help or guidance. I think because I was independent I was just less of a worry. My parents were young and did not know any better. The younger siblings had a different life because I spoke up for them. It did damage to me. This is definitely a regret of mine. Thank you for sharing Katie.
Logan was not a daughter, he was a son who shouldered an enormous amount of responsibility.
I think that Logan and Aspen in particular, were let down badly by their parents. All their parents.
Logan took on the role of Father figure to all the younger kids. Because their Father was mostly ABSENT
No mention of Dayton ever, it's like he never existed. 😢
He doesn’t want to be on the show
@@WithoutACrystalBall Is he still living in a van in the driveway? Is he working?
@@WithoutACrystalBallcan't they still bring up their kid/brother in a conversation? Even with him not appearing on camera anymore?
I thought he was living with his dad @@abbynormal206
@@tinawilson9281 No! That would be putting his business out there. He doesn’t want that.
Doesn't Robyn like to spew"wait until your frontal lobe is developed" or is it just me?? Now it's different rules to Robyns kids and this fake "you can have an opinion" they disgust me 🤢🤮
I was babysitting at 12 years old, but that was for neighbors kids. Not my brother and sister. I only remember a couple times that my parents said I was in charge of my sister 15 months younger and my brother 8 years younger when they had an appointment somewhere. A school friend who lived down the road from us had 13 siblings and she dropped out of high school moved out and got married to get away from taking care of everyone and all the housework.
Well said you covered everything I’ve been thinking. Especially Robyn being a horrible mother and Kody is even worse if you can believe it
Also my husband heard Sobyn say, to Kootie that her daughter I think Aurora is beautiful. It gave us both ewwww
The kids and the nanny raised those kids
It shows.
I really think that they should be ashamed. That property is not just theirs. And when Kody constantly has to show off grosses me out. Her daughters are already brainwashed. Kody asking his non biological girls about how many children they'll have is wrong. And didn't she have Mykelti move in to babysit?
And where was the oldest son? They never spoke on why he isn't in the family anymore. Yet they air out Jenelle's kids issues they had with Robyn or Kody but never mention Dayton I'm pretty sure he is embarrassed by Kody and Robyn
My personal hope is that he's gone back to bio dad.
He doesn’t want to he on the show. He is not back with his bio dad
Let's not forget, Queen Robyn had a nanny.
So Cody could wet his pencil all day..
Notice Robyn says "that's it?!" When her daughter says 3-5 kids is enough for her?! Laughable Robyn.. laughable!
She must think they are baby making machines!! Kody thought that of his wives… and doesn’t the religion spew that too?
allll i notice is the cheap no name brand food they make the kids eat !!!!!!! and no dinner just sweets !
No, they can’t have brand food on the show
@WithoutACrystalBall ob I never thought of that but makes sense
Nothing wrong with no brand. Same ingredients, do they all taste the same?no. I used to be a brand whore but now I like no name brand stuff food and luxuries
They can if they turn it to where you don't see the label.
They are terrible parents I agree. But referring to their oldest twenty something daughters as children is kind of ridiculous. They are young women.
Not adult women mentally
Kody and Robyn were spotted in Vegas last night without the children.
Selfish, immature parents. Her children did not have those younger children. Kody and Robyn are terrible parents.
I am so over Sobyn and Kody and the utter nonsense they spout
I'm not sure where you are coming from with the Robyn's kids get to have their own thoughts line. The kids always seem terrified of saying the wrong thing, or of wanting something that Kody does not approve of.
I wonder if the girls ever wrote a book about Robyn as their mom would it be an ala Mommie Dearest type of memoir?
only one person watched the kids janell was gone so was mary and soobin can't even take care of herself
And poor Solomon is doomed to be in the background, never interacting.. Just chopping wood with an axe all alone..
With no supervision. No wonder so many of their kids get seriously sick or hurt.
Poor Solomon looks sickly to me 😢
Well, somebody needed to step up and be the man in the family! These parents make me sick!!!
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did anyone notice that when kody and sobyn were giving their "you need to make babies" lecture" that kody's youngest son was away on his own swinging the axe and chopping wood? no one was watching or teaching him.. I really cant stand kody and sobyn and everything that has ever been between sobyns legs x
I feel the same way.
Like it's Kody's and Robyn's decision on how many kids the girls have??? So gross!!!
I'm still in shock that these girls are clueless on what is being done to them. I sure the schools have computers so how are they SO Nieve to all of this, can anyone answer this question? I mean they are old enough to leave. It's SAD
Maybe they fill their heads with horror stories about the internet? Maybe they've told them they're being tracked at school...and they're afraid they'll be caught? I don't know.
They are adults that have went to public school their whole lives and public college. They drive, have cell phones and the internet. I'm not buying their naive innocent act. If they're so sweet and innocent, why does Brianna ignore Savannah at school like she's too good for her? Look how snotty they were in Janelle's trailer that day, their masks slipped. Robyn wants everyone to think she's so shy and innocent ( which she's not) and she wants the viewers to think her daughters are also. There's no way they can be that blind about the rest of the family and believe all of Robyn's lies. It's a choice they're making to parrot Robyn's lies about the rest of the family. They also chose to have nothing to do with their step-siblings. It's pretty messed up. They have no empathy for their step-siblings that were abandoned.