Wild Food Foraging- Primitive Bread- Part 2: The Binder

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2013
  • In this episode I show you what common wild edible can be used as a binder in making primitive bread.
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  • @DaZebraffe
    @DaZebraffe 6 років тому +35

    Acorns have gluten in them, though the gluten gets damaged to a point of being unable to act as a binder if you hot leech the flour made from it. So if you live somewhere with lots of oak trees, making flour from the acorns and cold leeching it allows its flour to work for a binder.
    For anyone reading this who has no clue what I'm on about in terms of cold leech and hot leech...acorns also contain large quantities of a substance known as tannin, or tannic acid, which actually leeches nutrients out of you, so simply grinding acorns up and using them as a flour will not be good for you. Fortunately, leeching the tannins out is super simple. You just put the flour in a large pot or bowl and fill it up with a lot of water. If you use boiling hot water, you'll get all the tannins out in one soaking, but like I said, it damages the gluten. If you use cold water, you'll have to soak it several times to get the tannins out, but the gluten remains unharmed. When soaking, you let the acorn flour sit until the water has turned a deep brown color, then pour out as much water as you can without losing any of the flour. With cold leeching, you repeat this until the water stops turning brown. It'll start turning red, instead, but you don't need to worry about that, the stuff turning the water red is perfectly harmless. So, yeah, once it turns red instead of brown, you just pour off all the excess water, strain it through some cheese cloth, then let it dry the rest of the way before storing. Optionally, you can also grind it again after drying, as it will tend to be in lumps.

    • @DaZebraffe
      @DaZebraffe 6 років тому +8

      Corrections: I checked with my source of info, and it turns out that there actually ISN'T gluten in acorns. It acts as a binder in the same way your cattail root binder does, by having lots of starch. Additionally, the color the water turns initially is more of a yellow-brown than a dark brown. The rest of the information, though-including that binder being damaged to a point of unusability by hot leeching-is still correct.

    • @charlesrockafellor4200
      @charlesrockafellor4200 3 роки тому

      @@DaZebraffe I've also seen cold leaching (for several days) done on the whole nuts, before drying and grinding, though I don't know how well this compares with leaching the ground product instead.

  • @TheOutsiderCabin
    @TheOutsiderCabin  10 років тому +7

    Actually I have videos on: Cedar tea, Mint tea & iced tea, Sumac-ade, Dandelion Coffee, and Chicory Coffee. I haven't found lemon balm leaves yet, but I'd love to do a video on them, and I'm not a big fan of pine needle tea myself. And I kinda have this policy that if I don't like it, then I can't do a video on it.

  • @TheOutsiderCabin
    @TheOutsiderCabin  10 років тому +5

    Good question. Yes you can use the roots raw (as long as the cattails are in clean water). If you wet the fibers, you can squeeze the starch straight into your mouth.
    I don't think you can use the cattail starch as a glue. But you can extract birch oil from the bark and boil it down into glue. That's what the natives used to help attach their arrowheads and other things together.

    • @josephdonais3436
      @josephdonais3436 2 роки тому

      Better not to peel it. Too much is lost, crush, strip and soak, play with...

  • @lasalletxnurse1
    @lasalletxnurse1 10 місяців тому +1

    As soon as i saw the wrist bands i just knew that this was some kind of S&M video. I am surprised and your content is valuable. Thank you for researching

  • @jeanoconnor3163
    @jeanoconnor3163 7 років тому +19

    Cattail pollen, actually is one of my favorite flour extenders. It is available in early spring when the cattail blossoms. The bud of the cattail comes first and is great eating too.To gather the pollen you just put a bowl under the blossom and shake it.

    • @domg.1011
      @domg.1011 18 годин тому

      A bag around it works too

    • @jessicahope9744
      @jessicahope9744 8 годин тому

      Love Cattail Pollen. I always have a big jar of it. I love it in my oatmeal!

  • @jennadoll6174
    @jennadoll6174 3 роки тому +5

    Cat tails, or punks have a jelly like substance between the stem and the meaty part that was used by the native Americans for tooth infections as a numbing agent
    They used the meaty part to eat, the stems were dried and split to weave the "hairs" make sleeping beds and pillows, the fluffy tops were used for filling.

  • @TheOutsiderCabin
    @TheOutsiderCabin  10 років тому +1

    I'm glad you enjoy them!

  • @amongstedibles5159
    @amongstedibles5159 9 років тому +11

    adding some cattail pollen to the mix would help for flavor and nutrition...Excellent videos

  • @JohnDoe-ib3hr
    @JohnDoe-ib3hr 2 роки тому +2

    If you're are ever in a situation where you really need to rely on cattails/bullrush for calories, try and get the rhizomes before the flower stalks have developed as you will get far more calories for your efforts.

  • @DiyEcoProjects
    @DiyEcoProjects 10 років тому

    Thanks for your videos

  • @emilynoneya2981
    @emilynoneya2981 7 років тому +2

    loving every video . ur voice is so relaxing coming from someone who has anxiety lol hope this videos are endless and I haven't started something that comes to an end , I am loving the survival videos and your a great teacher . would love to see longer videos and this turn into a show almost !

    • @therightstick579
      @therightstick579 7 років тому +1

      Emily Noneya I agree, but I cringe every time he says melk.

  • @Paradigm2012Shift
    @Paradigm2012Shift 9 років тому

    Very informative. Thanks for sharing.

  • @LithaMoonSong
    @LithaMoonSong 6 років тому

    I love your videos..

  • @Buluntung
    @Buluntung 6 років тому

    i love your videos

  • @thecurrentmoment
    @thecurrentmoment 7 років тому +6

    Ray Mears video shows him charring the outside of the rhizome in a fire, seems to make it really easy to take the outside off. Something to try

  • @nekonsk
    @nekonsk 7 років тому +7

    Let me just mark this as a favorite, so I can find this video again someday for my Gluten free friends.

  • @debleetwo
    @debleetwo 4 роки тому +1

    You"re the Euell Gibbons of youtube!
    Cattails have other edible parts, which are pretty good. The tops, if you catch them early when they are small and green, can be eaten like corn on the cob, and tastes similar.

  • @noobvsproofficial
    @noobvsproofficial 7 років тому +1

    The pond with the cat tails is Beautiful! Where was this filmed at? Also, great vids keep up the great work

  • @a.w.3438
    @a.w.3438 7 років тому +8

    i always think that cattail pods[?]/pollen[?] looks like hotdogs on a stick! lol!

    • @adreabrooks11
      @adreabrooks11 2 роки тому

      Pods. When I was a tot, I used to call them "roast hot-dog plants!" ^_^
      By contrast, the pollen can be seen early in the year, when those pods first start growing. It looks like a fluffy "carrot" and sheds pollen similar to a that of a dandelion.
      The pods start out green, and are also edible. They can be eaten as one might do with a green bean or edible pod pea, but taste a bit more like corn on the cob. Once they get brown and fibrous, they're no longer appetizing - but, once they get fluffy, they can be used for the same purposes one would use cotton.

  • @DiyEcoProjects
    @DiyEcoProjects 10 років тому

    This cool... nice one. Questions please for you mate. Can you eat the roots once pealed as a survival food? is so can you do this raw or do you need to cook them. Also can you use the starch for some kind of glue?

  • @TheOutsiderCabin
    @TheOutsiderCabin  10 років тому

    Neither did I until recently. lol

  • @bander33
    @bander33 2 роки тому

    🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @Olivetreedisciples3887
    @Olivetreedisciples3887 6 років тому

    the starch can also be used to make a glue.

  • @aknaj89
    @aknaj89 2 роки тому +1

    So it’s how you take out starch from potatoes for potato pancakes !

  • @DiyEcoProjects
    @DiyEcoProjects 10 років тому

    ah see... so you dont eat the stringy bits then. Just the starch for carbohydrate. # Thats cool so you can boil silver birch bark, extract the bark after a bit, then boil it down? Also i hear you can use pine sap too as glue too, but thought that would be brittle.

  • @roxanasmith6288
    @roxanasmith6288 4 роки тому

    Those cattails didn't want to give up they're spots.

  • @Thermalist
    @Thermalist 3 роки тому

    i just assumed to be a flour substitute it had to be a seed of a root... in jamaica we use cassava as a flour substitute ... cassava is a root

  • @DiyEcoProjects
    @DiyEcoProjects 10 років тому

    So i see you have "what to eat" ... how about some "what to drink" such as brews. Like pine needle tea, lemon balm leaves, mint tea ect :o)

  • @jacejan3128
    @jacejan3128 Рік тому

    Guess I should have watched this video before I commented on the first, because this is what I said to do. You were already on it.

  • @MrSilver261
    @MrSilver261 6 років тому +2

    that bread would keep you regular !

  • @a_mustache_of_great_repute
    @a_mustache_of_great_repute 6 років тому

    Is flax wild where you are?

  • @MsTokies
    @MsTokies 8 років тому

    arrowroot flour perhaps?

  • @patrickporco6972
    @patrickporco6972 5 років тому

    Maybe you could come up with a form of leavening from the wild...maybe alcoholic beverage or something

  • @Blacklilly22
    @Blacklilly22 9 років тому +1

    Just out of curiosity can cat tail be used for anything else? I'd hate to waste the rest of the plant just for the roots

    • @TheOutsiderCabin
      @TheOutsiderCabin  9 років тому +1

      Blacklilly22 You can weave baskets with the reeds, and you can save the cat tail fluff (if the plant has the cat tail part) as a fire-starting material.

    • @Sharperthanu1
      @Sharperthanu1 8 років тому

      +Blacklilly22 The ret of the cattail can be cut up and boiled like a vegetable.One can add some salt and canola oil on them after their boiled and drained.I dont recomend butter or regular hydrogenated margarine on ANYTHING because they're not heart healthy.

    • @Blacklilly22
      @Blacklilly22 8 років тому

      +adrienne gellman oh interesting. what do they taste like?

    • @lol...
      @lol... 6 років тому

      Blacklilly22 He posted a video on cat tail stems (just 2 was ago)

  • @brendanflanagan6110
    @brendanflanagan6110 7 років тому +1

    you can also do this with potatos

    • @starlytesplanet
      @starlytesplanet 7 років тому +2

      I add egg to my potato cakes or they fall apart...

  • @JohnLee-tm9zo
    @JohnLee-tm9zo 9 років тому

    So you say it is the starches in the cattail root that works as the binder, and that makes me wonder if other roots and tubers could be used?

    • @elizabethpowers7706
      @elizabethpowers7706 8 років тому

      Me too...are the roots edible I wonder...

    • @JohnLee-tm9zo
      @JohnLee-tm9zo 8 років тому

      +Elizabeth Powers I'm sure if you wanted a nice fiber flush, you could eat the roots lol but the value one typically seeks in cattail root is the starch (energy).

    • @elizabethpowers7706
      @elizabethpowers7706 8 років тому

      +John Lee Very interesting thanks

    • @izzhipp4971
      @izzhipp4971 5 років тому

      Yes

    • @izzhipp4971
      @izzhipp4971 5 років тому

      @Mr.ManMakesLotsOfCan they make Wicca bread all over the world. So yes

  • @whitetiger432
    @whitetiger432 6 років тому +1

    Sooo what did it taste like...

    • @izzhipp4971
      @izzhipp4971 5 років тому

      That was my question. I'm guessing no better than the fried Pattie. Lol

  • @izzhipp4971
    @izzhipp4971 5 років тому +1

    You didn't say how that tasted. Hmm

  • @reneewood3171
    @reneewood3171 Рік тому

    You can make bread from the curtail starch alone

  • @jessicahope9744
    @jessicahope9744 3 роки тому

    Doesn't pulling cattails out by the root kill the plant?

    • @adreabrooks11
      @adreabrooks11 2 роки тому

      It does (much like a carrot or potato) - but cattails grow back very rapidly. Additionally, you can use many other parts of the plant as well, so it doesn't go to waste. The leaves are great for reed mats, baskets, etc; the stems can be made into light-duty arrow shafts for frogging and other small game; the seed pods are edible in spring, and can be used as a cotton substitute late in the year, etc.

    • @domg.1011
      @domg.1011 18 годин тому

      Narrowleaf cattails are invasive (in north america) so pull as many as you want, you don't even need to use them Broadleaf cattails are native, but pulling them is still important to keep them in check in some places. (Humans are part of the ecosystem & pulling cattails is one of our jobs.)

    • @jessicahope9744
      @jessicahope9744 8 годин тому

      ​@@domg.1011Good to know.

  • @SigmaPB777
    @SigmaPB777 Рік тому +1

    “Caution: Before eating things from the wild check multiple credible sources.”
    “So, almost every source I read about this was wrong.”

    • @domg.1011
      @domg.1011 18 годин тому

      Keyword: credible
      There is so much misinformation out there or people speculating as if they are saying facts

  • @christopherellis2663
    @christopherellis2663 6 років тому

    Just as good raw, but if one wants to pretend to be dining out, rather than just eating. ...

    • @domg.1011
      @domg.1011 18 годин тому

      Bioavailability?

  • @elyrish
    @elyrish 10 років тому +1

    I have heraf that you can use the top as flour

    • @Sharperthanu1
      @Sharperthanu1 8 років тому +3

      +Viktor That's the cattail POLLEN that can be made into flour.The North American Indians used to use cattail pollen as a kind of flour.They would mix it with water (and possibly another ingredient.I'm not certain.I'll search for a recipe online) and they would make a dough out of this.Then they would wrap the dough around the end of a clean stick and hold it over a fire to cook it.Catttail pollen bread is high in beta carotene because of it's yellow color.All edible wild plants (actually any plant at all) have to be picked from areas far away from traffic from streets and highways.Plants that grow near streets and highways have lead from the traffic in them.If you're going to pick edible wild plants out in the wilderness,you better stay away from areas where there are bears.(You can research where bears are found in North America online).Also please remember to learn how to locate North,South east and West because if one gets lost in the wilderness one could walk around for hours and starve to death if one doesn't know how to find edible food and water.Going out in the wilderness is fir a wilderness expert.Also one has to know how to deal with a bear if one encounters any.

  • @BdeJJG
    @BdeJJG 6 років тому

    Where do you live?

  • @Anbuccoy
    @Anbuccoy 6 років тому

    looks like elephant Dung or a cow patty. But i'm gonna try it anyways. thanks

  • @alfredoguzman2053
    @alfredoguzman2053 7 років тому

    un rico panqueques de stiercol eso parece

  • @jimlotus4428
    @jimlotus4428 6 років тому

    YOUR METAL LOOKING WRIST BANDS ? DO YOU PLAY METAL ? :) I DO AND I HAVE SOME VIDEOS ON MY CHANNEL TOO... I USED TO WEAR WRISTBANDS LIKE THOSE TOO AND I WOULD WEAR THEM WHEN I DID DISHES TOO.. HAHA ;) VERY METAL.. I DO NOT WEAR LEATHER ANYMORE BEING A VEGAN BUT I DO LOVE METAL GEAR ;)

  • @chimpaflimp
    @chimpaflimp 7 років тому +3

    M E L K

  • @billrayvan6857
    @billrayvan6857 Рік тому

    Damn this is a huge waste of resources ... Water is valuable .

    • @domg.1011
      @domg.1011 18 годин тому

      It depends on the situation. Sometimes you have an infinite supply, not just whatever is in your water bottle.

  • @songyardbird2513
    @songyardbird2513 5 років тому

    yuck... all thats left is starch and dirt

    • @domg.1011
      @domg.1011 18 годин тому

      The brown colour was from oxidation, it is not dirt. The starch is not really good on its own. It was used in bread. It could also be used to make a soup/sauce or a sweet sauce for a dessert.

  • @davidrenfro9694
    @davidrenfro9694 2 роки тому

    That bread at the end looks like a dried up turd. lol

  • @NotSoCrazyNinja
    @NotSoCrazyNinja 6 років тому

    I don't think I'll be trying to make this "primitive bread" that looks a lot like feces. Making acorn bread seems easier.

  • @rtonce
    @rtonce 6 років тому

    UMM...That is a labour-intensive waste of time as is this vid. WHY? You can simply take the fluff from the brown cat tail tops, mix it with water, add spice if you like, and wrap onto the end of a stick to bake over a fire - as bread. Nicely enterprising that you looked around and A for effort, but shame lost knowledge and skills mean our youth just re-invents the wheel again and again.

    • @domg.1011
      @domg.1011 18 годин тому

      u can give him new information without being an ass. You even looked like you tried to be nice with the "a for effort" comment.