I know he's a great player, but I just don't understand how he does it. We need researchers to analyze his play over the course of multiple games. It will be my doctoral.
@@jeremiegartner464 Not really, the only units this FAQ would have affected were the Speeder and the Rhinos. Watched his last few games and the vehicles getting Lethal or Sustained did not matter/come up.
Hammerstrikes don't have +1 to wound, that's the thunderstrick. Either way that DW list is nutty and similar to the list I concocted when they got their new index. Glad to see it has legs
every instance of Floof cheating that i could find with timestamps 1:12:44 nudges squad over out of low 1:14:22 moves 6 inch movement squad too far, gets called out (has to advance) doesn't matter as he doesn't shoot anyway 1:24:00 los rotate incident 1:28:43 (might be wrong on this one, could be purestrains which move 8")(nope, confirmed those are neophites) 1:41:22 (not a cheat just funny hes measuring from his gun when he argued he could just spin his model and lose los) 2:05:30 csm points out he pulled too many units (getting cheated and is still helping opponent) 2:06:45 says Benefictus has 4 wounds, indistinct voice from some unmiced person, "oh she has 3" 2:16:42 tried to move 6" units 7 inches 2:17:51 "fall back" premoves unit, then measures, then moves more than what was measured, then bumps the model even further 2:18:46 overmoves again 2:59:22 3:00:29 3:06:00 3:06:30 3:07:24 stubber isnt 5 strength 3:12:00 3:15:00
Seems very targeted. Are you sure it wasn't just human error? And did you do the due diligence to check Ben's plays as well? And what video are these time stamps from?
@@rastaog9257 yup. there was 1 instance where he declared a shot and was immediately called out for it not having vision. He immediately said something like "shit you're right" and moved on. And yeah there might have been a bit of a bias but he wasnt the one who was literally trying to argue with the judge at the end. That got a judge to measure for them, and STILL Floof wants to argue it. In ANY other game, that would be a DQ.
@@dras-pv8qvAre all sports and competitions meaningless in your opinion? I won't deny that we play with toy soldiers, but I don't think it's meaningless. It can be a very fun, tactical, deep and social experience. I don't condone cheating in any way but we invest a lot of time and money into this hobby, so it sure does mean a lot to people who are invested in it.
Mailerfiends were underrated, anytime I get my maulerfiends on an obj and charged it’s not easy getting them off it. Things are a tank and the fists are not something people expect
@@basteala525 In what world have they been sucking? In no period of time SM have not been playable. That you built the wrong marines is no everybody else fault.
Seems like some Cheaters at this tournament. Was it not a game between Jack Harpster and Derek Apsche? And both players have only wins. Or do i missunderstood something?
Genestealer player cheats multiple times on stream. Gets into with his opponent when hes called out for it. Coverage teams keep saying "keep things positive guys" while deleting comments asking whats going on and why did the csm player concede. This entire tournament was a shit show.
@@dylan-gh5ll tabletop live, day 3, quarter finals. gets called out multiple times by his opponent. by then end it almost looks like his opponent is squaring up to fight, then the mics and cameras cut away.
@@Shaman409 it's the other way around buddy, CSM player was being that guy all game and pls go and tell me where floof was cheating, he was playing with clear intent. arguing on LOS in turns 1 and 2, said he had visibility on a unit clearly behind and said yeah i have it and floof did not want to argue so just gave it to him.
my reglr microphone is broked
gotta save up for a new 1
Any chance your could cover the Raven Guard list that took 3rd place at the Denver 40K Fight Club January Open 2025?
Thought you'd caught the nurgle flu 😂😂
Skari is his own faction.
#SkariNotDrukhari
I know he's a great player, but I just don't understand how he does it. We need researchers to analyze his play over the course of multiple games. It will be my doctoral.
11:06 worth mentioning that the lvo faq'ed the deathwatch to allow the detachment to be used in all Adeptus Astartes, not just the killteams
This faq was why deathwatch won
There’s nothing thing important in that list without Mission Tactics
@@jeremiegartner464 Not really, the only units this FAQ would have affected were the Speeder and the Rhinos. Watched his last few games and the vehicles getting Lethal or Sustained did not matter/come up.
It's not like the deathwatch absolutely romped home and crushed everything. They were a glass cannon and nearly every game was incredibly close
It affected some rhinos, oh noooo.
Put Chaos Cults Dudes ON a CLOCK! - And insert Flooooffff...
Great Vid Dod, keep them coming.
Okey dokey!
Not one Sisters of Battle player in the top 100. GW really went overboard with the nerfs.
Agreed - the classic geedub overnerf
They need to rework their army rule all together. Dice manipulation should not be in this game. It just creates feels bads
The fact that pricing the triumph brought them down to sub 50% really shows that the problem isn't necessarily miracle dice, it's 6's as miracle dice.
Only 16 of 1000 players brought Sisters…that’s insane! Used to be a 50-60 player faction at events
It’s almost like cheating dice in a dice game is fundamentally unfair
Hammerstrikes don't have +1 to wound, that's the thunderstrick. Either way that DW list is nutty and similar to the list I concocted when they got their new index. Glad to see it has legs
There are 25pts left in that DW list, I think it should be a thunderstrike but could also be deepstrike enhancement on the watchmaster
Typo in my list unfortunately; it was a Thunderstrike
DW can source ignore cover on any of the KT units with Dragonfire rounds
every instance of Floof cheating that i could find with timestamps
1:12:44 nudges squad over out of low
1:14:22 moves 6 inch movement squad too far, gets called out (has to advance) doesn't matter as he doesn't shoot anyway
1:24:00 los rotate incident
1:28:43 (might be wrong on this one, could be purestrains which move 8")(nope, confirmed those are neophites)
1:41:22 (not a cheat just funny hes measuring from his gun when he argued he could just spin his model and lose los)
2:05:30 csm points out he pulled too many units (getting cheated and is still helping opponent)
2:06:45 says Benefictus has 4 wounds, indistinct voice from some unmiced person, "oh she has 3"
2:16:42 tried to move 6" units 7 inches
2:17:51 "fall back" premoves unit, then measures, then moves more than what was measured, then bumps the model even further
2:18:46 overmoves again
2:59:22
3:00:29
3:06:00
3:06:30
3:07:24 stubber isnt 5 strength
3:12:00
3:15:00
Seems very targeted. Are you sure it wasn't just human error? And did you do the due diligence to check Ben's plays as well? And what video are these time stamps from?
@@rastaog9257 yup. there was 1 instance where he declared a shot and was immediately called out for it not having vision. He immediately said something like "shit you're right" and moved on. And yeah there might have been a bit of a bias but he wasnt the one who was literally trying to argue with the judge at the end. That got a judge to measure for them, and STILL Floof wants to argue it. In ANY other game, that would be a DQ.
That's a lot of effort over a meaningless game of toy soldiers
@@dras-pv8qvAre all sports and competitions meaningless in your opinion? I won't deny that we play with toy soldiers, but I don't think it's meaningless. It can be a very fun, tactical, deep and social experience. I don't condone cheating in any way but we invest a lot of time and money into this hobby, so it sure does mean a lot to people who are invested in it.
What stream are you refercing for these timestamps?
Thanks for the walkthrough. I think I am in love with the Roberts list 😂
I am actually shocked, it is a winning list but it has so few units int it. One would think it would be difficult to score points.
Happy to see Deathwatch!!
Mailerfiends were underrated, anytime I get my maulerfiends on an obj and charged it’s not easy getting them off it. Things are a tank and the fists are not something people expect
On the other side of the coin i charged a maulerfiend with 10 bloodletters and markes it with rendmaster and wiped it out in 1 charge 😂
Urien - "He does have a respawn"
Not if you watched Skari's games he doesn't 😆
for those talking about too many space Marines, 2 of them got into the top 8 because of drop outs. there was supposed to be Tyranids and Tau instead.
Which two?
Also people bitching about that immediately despite them sucking ass for two years. Never change, 40K fans.
@@basteala525 In what world have they been sucking? In no period of time SM have not been playable. That you built the wrong marines is no everybody else fault.
40K has picked up a LOT of powerful deep striking units that can blast you off the board without interaction if you don’t screen.
Where can we find the results and army lists?
See the event info link in the description :)
Chaos marines do Knights better than Knights
Great breakdown but the glitch transition isn’t for me. Fried my brain every time the screen changed.
Seems like some Cheaters at this tournament. Was it not a game between Jack Harpster and Derek Apsche? And both players have only wins. Or do i missunderstood something?
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so much space marines
Why is some random guy narrating? Where's trevy?
Genestealer player cheats multiple times on stream. Gets into with his opponent when hes called out for it. Coverage teams keep saying "keep things positive guys" while deleting comments asking whats going on and why did the csm player concede.
This entire tournament was a shit show.
Oh wow. Didn't watch the game, but wow
What stream?
@@dylan-gh5ll tabletop live, day 3, quarter finals. gets called out multiple times by his opponent. by then end it almost looks like his opponent is squaring up to fight, then the mics and cameras cut away.
@@Shaman409 it's the other way around buddy, CSM player was being that guy all game and pls go and tell me where floof was cheating, he was playing with clear intent. arguing on LOS in turns 1 and 2, said he had visibility on a unit clearly behind and said yeah i have it and floof did not want to argue so just gave it to him.
@@Shaman409 thanks
Those armies showcase just how unbalanced 40k really is. No big surprise an army that only needs 2+ on its rolls and has full rerolls is top of 40k...