Historian Eric Foner: Trump is Logical Conclusion of What the GOP Party Has Been Doing for Decades

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  • Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
  • democracynow.org - For a historical perspective on the 2016 race, we speak to Eric Foner, the Pulitzer Prize-winning historian and professor at Columbia University. His books include “Gateway to Freedom: The Hidden History of the Underground Railroad.”
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 163

  • @michaeldunlavey6015
    @michaeldunlavey6015 8 років тому +38

    It's not just the GOP. Both major parties and the major media have been moving to the right since 1950-ish. The general pattern (as Chomsky describes it) is 1) government and politics serves the interests of major corporations, and 2) major media is corporate and serves the interests of the government and other major corporations. The result is trickle-up economics and wars fought to benefit corporations. Carry it on long enough, and you get a big fraction of people who are left behind, mad as hell, and will blame anybody.

    • @metatron4890
      @metatron4890 8 років тому +1

      Trickle up economics?

    • @michaeldunlavey6015
      @michaeldunlavey6015 8 років тому +2

      @MetaTron: I'm not (just) flaming. If you can read respected economists, two of whom are Thomas Piketty and Michael Hudson, it doesn't matter who you are - every year some of your net worth is transferred away from you, in a thousand ways, to someone who has more. In the U.S. it's been happening more quickly since Eisenhower. My word for this is "trickle up economics". Back then, a family didn't have to have two incomes, a person could work his/her way through college, etc. etc. There were plenty of things wrong then, but there wasn't the sense of hopelessness, of being left behind.

    • @openmind2161
      @openmind2161 8 років тому +6

      Republican voters voting Trump for the Economic Mess which Another Republican Party President George Bush has created .Its like they are moving from self inflicting wound to suicide to cure their own disease

    • @Icearchon
      @Icearchon 7 років тому +5

      To expand upon what Geno Mccgeno said. One can make the argument that it's not even the top 1%, that have benefited the most, more like the top 0.1% to top 0.01%.
      Most people don't know the magnitude of concentration of wealth that has been taking place in this country. For example, the top *0.01%* make over 50% of their income just from capital gains, of which they only have to pay a *maximum* marginal tax rate of 20% on the net-gains, and sometimes just 15% of it was a short-term investment. And if they have any net-losses, those are tax deductible.
      So, in other words, the top 0.01% of the population, those who make over $12.1 million annually, pays a roughly equivalent to lower marginal tax rate than to someone earning over $34,000 in Maryland, which has a total marginal tax rate of 29.75% (25% Federal + 4.75% State). Even the the top 0.02-0.1% pay a much higher effective tax rate than the top 0.01%. (Of course, this on average. Some in the top 0.01% pay a much higher tax rate because their income doesn't come from capital gains. But many pay at absolute *most* 20% or less since a lot make almost all of their income from capital gains, let alone some defer taxes all together through tax avoidance mechanisms).
      It really puts in perspective how much wealth has become super-concentrated at the very *very* top and how much the game has been rigged, so to speak. Something is terribly wrong with our tax code if a single person that makes over $12,000,000 per year in income can pay a substantially lower effective tax rate (up to *half* the tax rate, depending on the comparison) than anyone earning an annual salary or wages over $30,000-60,000 (the wide range is because it depends on a state-by-state basis as some states have income taxes, some don't, some states have capital gains taxes, and some don't).
      So, this post became a lot longer than I expected. I barely touched the surface, but as you can see, even me trying to simplify things since taxes = complicated and there are a lot of nuances to our tax code.

    • @perkyporkpie
      @perkyporkpie 7 років тому

      'a sense of hopelessness' is absolute correct. Someone recently said it wasn't a 'trickle up' anymore but a 'Niagara' Oh and have you seen 'hypernormalisation' by Adam Curtis; it's on BBC i PLAYER-I think you'd find it interesting

  • @jdt617
    @jdt617 8 років тому +1

    You hit the nail on the proverbial, Democracy Now.

  • @1sosalini
    @1sosalini 7 років тому +4

    the black fella is absolutely spot on .

  • @ferguson-factor7107
    @ferguson-factor7107 8 років тому +11

    In the words of Malcolm X, anything south of Canada is the south of AmeriKKKa.

    • @niklashegg
      @niklashegg 3 роки тому

      Tell me how Donald Trump is racist

    • @Colstonewall
      @Colstonewall 2 роки тому

      Yet, I don't see anyone that claim this nonsense leaving the U.S. Not to mention, I see millions of black and brown people desperately seeking to move to the U.S. by any means necessary. Kinda funny thing to do if the Country is so "racist."

  • @lizab4208
    @lizab4208 8 років тому +1

    I'm white and these are the worst candidates ever. I'm disgruntled about everything going on on the u.s 😑

  • @QFGEE
    @QFGEE 6 років тому +2

    Foner does have some useful insights about his own party, for example, he rightly called the KKK "the domestic terrorist arm of the Democratic Party".

  • @jossdionne9810
    @jossdionne9810 7 років тому +1

    Corruption bankrups, too much money bankrups the 2 parties.

  • @ProfoundImagery1
    @ProfoundImagery1 8 років тому +1

    Why no or very little mention of option offered by 'ONLY' Jill Stein, representing our agendas as the majority, compared to the horrible choices posed by the two candidates - in every segment, regarding 'every' major issue, challenging 'every' false media representation. But I love every show, and it's hard to improve on perfection. Keep healthy and vibrant fam.

  • @houseonthesand6231
    @houseonthesand6231 7 років тому

    If Bill Pullman had been in Spinal Tap, he would have been Amy Goodman

  • @janisripple754
    @janisripple754 8 років тому +4

    I'm a Senior andI know many Seniors men and women Will VoteJill or Bernie

    • @bazuka0190
      @bazuka0190 7 років тому +1

      Thomas Paine the problem is that they are not going to win right now the vote is more important for Hillary because trump is just crazy.

  • @joshuapowell114
    @joshuapowell114 5 років тому +4

    This makes more sense now in jan 2019, than ever

    • @alexishilliard7630
      @alexishilliard7630 3 роки тому

      Oh and did it ever continue... gosh.

    • @onomatopoeia162003
      @onomatopoeia162003 Рік тому

      it's true. And foner didn't bring up back then. That voter fraud also goes back to Reconstruction.

  • @trumpsycho28
    @trumpsycho28 7 років тому

    DT is a guy with balls.get over with!

  • @paulfogartysongs
    @paulfogartysongs 8 років тому

    "Conclusion" being the operative word.

  • @pijim96
    @pijim96 8 років тому

    I agree.

  • @PeterSedesse
    @PeterSedesse 7 років тому +6

    The anti-science ( denying the dangers of tobacco, climate change etc)... and the flirt with racism where the GOP does things like voter suppression against minorities and then supporting issues like the confederate flag.

  • @123benjito
    @123benjito 7 років тому

    Jon Stewart said pretty much the same thing a couple months ago. GOP made this possible. Goddammit...

  • @ladamyre1
    @ladamyre1 8 років тому +1

    And so the conclusion of all this is we must swallow the KNOWN (that means her track record) corporate fascist candidate in Hillary Clinton and hope she's been a doppelganger to the corporate fascists and not the people.
    Riiight.

    • @thecollector6746
      @thecollector6746 2 роки тому

      5 years later ....I hope you came back here to read your nonsense reply with the same insufferable tone you wrote it in.

  • @loonyloony6550
    @loonyloony6550 7 років тому +1

    History is not looking good for the reps.

    • @50kal44
      @50kal44 4 роки тому +1

      loony loony Democrats**

  • @stefanschindler422
    @stefanschindler422 8 років тому +2

    In this short clip, why did Foner fail to mention the absolutely pivotal role of Newt Gingrich in turning Republican political discourse into a poisonous swamp of sophistry, lies, exaggeration, scapegoating, opponent-smearing, dogmatism, fear-mongering and obstructionism? He knows it's true, and his egregious failure to mention Newt's crucial contribution to moral, logical and linguistic political obscenity makes me question his credentials.

  • @Gooberpatrol66
    @Gooberpatrol66 7 років тому

    GOP party is redundant.

  • @jessicacooper1686
    @jessicacooper1686 8 років тому

    The first time I was old enough to vote back in 1992 I voted for Ross Perot a Independent, he appealed to me.

  • @ESKERDRIVE
    @ESKERDRIVE 7 років тому +1

    I want to see that Great Mexican Wall being built !!

  • @charlieotto
    @charlieotto 7 років тому

    foner seems like he has no detailed info about anything, and he's using emotional language so i distrust him. just some feedback, love you guys thanks

    • @charlieotto
      @charlieotto 7 років тому +1

      oops not foner, the other guy

  • @archon3897
    @archon3897 8 років тому +1

    Liberal professor. Wow. Never seen that before. Democracy Now is such a massive piece of horseshit and uninformed in almost every issue. So sad to see that they have any subscribers :(

    • @ivan134
      @ivan134 8 років тому +5

      The Orbinator ever wonder why there aren't more conservative professors? LOL

    • @taoibhban
      @taoibhban 8 років тому +10

      Eric Foner is one smart, well-informed dude, and he knows more about the history of political corruption and cronyism in the U.S. than you ever will. I suggest you look at the full breadth of his work before you join the anti-intellectual Trumpite herd and slam him without even being familiar with his work. The fact that you flatly dismiss people as "liberals" or "liberal professors" shows how closed minded you are. Like all job descriptions, some liberal professors aren't too bright - some are outstanding and extremely intelligent - and that is not to be derided. Foner falls into the latter description. The founding fathers were liberal thinkers also, of course.
      Mass generalisations are not insightful or intelligent. Read Foner's writings. He is not one-dimensional, he calls it like he sees it and is critical of both parties, and of the system. You'll learn a lot.

    • @LyricalDJ
      @LyricalDJ 8 років тому +2

      Everyone has their biases but condemning someone for their (supposed) political views is incredibly shortsighted. In all sciences and humanities it ought to be an enrichment to talk with and learn from opponents. An echo chamber helps nobody but the people who are in power.
      I suggest you take off your partisan goggles and open your mind.

    • @onomatopoeia162003
      @onomatopoeia162003 Рік тому +1

      @@taoibhban Probably one of the best when it comes to Reconstruction. I'm surprised he didn't bring that up when it comes to "voting fraud". Since that's how far it goes.

    • @Eriugena8
      @Eriugena8 Рік тому

      Wow, only the best historian in America. Horseshit on your face, poop head face, with bad breath too.

  • @johnhunt9674
    @johnhunt9674 8 років тому

    Democracy Now has seriously sold out. Unsub

    • @0MVR_0
      @0MVR_0 7 років тому

      Wah?

    • @soulful41
      @soulful41 7 років тому +1

      John is just pissed off because he doesn't agree with what they are saying. It wasn't his narrative.

    • @niklashegg
      @niklashegg 3 роки тому

      @@soulful41 because what he’s saying isn’t backed up and was proved wrong through the four years

    • @onomatopoeia162003
      @onomatopoeia162003 Рік тому

      I'm surprised foner didn't bring up one thing. Which is "voter fraud". Which goes back to Reconstruction. He should know this.

  • @jordannicolexxx
    @jordannicolexxx 7 років тому

    5 mins in the guy was to much had to stop