The professional bit come into play when the boss says hurry up or don't worry about strapping it down ect ect. You know. .arrr that tire will be ok mate just crack on.
I drove for just over 38 years for a total of three different employers and absolutely loved my job. My last employer was a family concern great Boss. total years working for him, 21 years. He sold up to a National waste company and I worked for them for 5 years until I could take no more and broke down at the wheel of my truck at the start of my day (4.45am) I had a month off due to stress, this was the first time I have ever been off work due to illness. I cutup my licence, threw all the bloody paperwork and course certificates in the bin and went self employed gardening 13 months before my 65th birthday. I have never been so happy as I am now . My age now is 70 and I will retire at the end of this year. .
Must be something about the 38 year mark. I've hit a brick wall used to love the job When I was home I wanted to be in truck I now dread starting my week. Just grin an bear it now. An it's true Looking for 4 days a week now definitely no weekends. My age I have nothing to prove to anyone, Just a wage I need. As I'm not used to people il have to keep driving. For there safety not mine. That's why us hardcore still drive, we can't put up with bullshit. So we drive till we die 😂
@@Hedge-Hog that's just sad mate, surely he could have found another job..seen a guy go off bridge A50 start off lockdown there were a few evrey day,. Hit the artic fkd the roof an he went between cab an trailer was messy. I thought at time a 18 fyt high bridge to jump off to end it poo3 soul he must have been in hell. Even all the sht with lockdown I couldn't get why any one would do it..
@@Sametribeeverytime Exactly, look at the virus PPE contracts, there's loads of PPE companies out there but instead of using them , loads of government employees, including MPs, have been getting family members to create a PPE company just so they can award it to them at vastly inflated prices. It's ridiculous. And the people creating the companies are well off anyway so it's just a bonus to them, and the MPs get a nice little kickback. Nice country we live in !
One good thing about agencies is you can try out the different types of jobs from supermarket to construction to waste removal and decide which one you prefer. But I do detest agencies as they are taking a huge margin from what should rightfully be yours.
Over 20 years behind the wheel and it took a toll on my body and I was getting sick of 12 hour days and getting up at 4 in the morning. I gave up 7 months ago and I'll never go back to it,
@Mickey Mouse I drove tippers for years, they were the lowest paid drivers, I was on casual, about £15 a day. I think times have moved on for them and it's great to hear that some drivers are doing well.
Im a driver from the Netherlands, its the same problem over here. Really early mornings and long days. 12 to 15 hours is the standard. Nobody cares and the drivers who drive now are of low quality. You will see a lot of mental illnes under the drivers. They need to be protected!
I am also one of the 70,000 that won’t go back.I now work in a clean factory we have breaks every two hours, and two weeks holiday for Christmas.the money is about the same the industry has got what it deserves.
I did it for two months with Palmer and Harvey until they went bust. Two months was bad enough. I am another of the 70,000 drivers that won't be going back. The job is shit. I most certainly don't miss the arsehole shop keepers, the irresponsible planners, the 15 hour days, fighting through traffic, stupid car drivers and the list goes on. I don't miss the job one bit. I feel gutted I wasted 3 grand doing the training. My advice to anyone thinking about doing it is don't, just don't.
It's a free market. You're free to work for who you like. You could go to college and retrain, start your own business etc etc. Stop F**king Moaining!!
I've just spent the last 45 mins reading some of these posts, they should all be printed out and dumped on the steps of Downing Street, with a message saying " Mr Johnson, here's your logistics problems"
I've been saying for years that transport is THE most powerful industry in history. The only thing preventing us from getting a fair crack of the whip is ourselves! If a general strike were called for truck drivers, the country would be on it's knees within 12-24 hours. When you have certain companies that will do the job at a loss, naming no names, just to prevent another company getting that contract, and it's drivers happily swan around thinking they are the bees knees then it is no wonder we get shafted.......because we won't stand together and demand our rights.
The only shortage in the UK is employers paying the correct wage, there's plenty of drivers out there. Employment agencies should be banned if an employer can pay their premium, they can pay a decent wage to drivers, employment agencies just let employers avoid the responsibility of taking someone on.
SPOT ON!! I'm in Engineering its exactly the same. GARBAGE wages high amount of responsibility, no respect, lots of micro-management from non technical know it all managers and HR reps. Just like HGV drivers, engineers must have formal qualifications to get the job in the first place only to earn less than some kid dunking fries at Mcdonalds.
its the same in nursing mate. the one doing the work gets stuffed. the agencies get a tone of money for doing very little and the employer gets to walk away from any responsibility.
Thank you to you and all the other fab truckers. You kept us going through all this covid bollocks! I won't clap the NHS but I'll bloody well clap you guys and gals!
well said i have thanked my shop workers a few times over this last year and a bit plenty people have kept us going while we can see vids of empty wards and ghost town hospitals
Well said mate! I am a class one driver with a clean license and 20 years left until I retire.however, I recently gave up driving to work in a factory where I can earn the same money Doing much safer, cleaner Job.I’m glad to hear the industry struggling for drivers it’s their own fault driving down the wages for the past 20 years.
@@killerdoxen sadly the same here in Australia too. Pre Covid, plenty of freight companies were happy to provide sponsored employment visas to, mainly, Indians, then bring them here and pay them squat. Many of them are quite dangerous on the road too as they receive no training for driving heavy vehicles, well really any driving in Australia in general. Add paying by the load, instead of a decent wage, and you get a dangerous situation. It's quite sad that this is worldwide issue, but then again it's essentially the same few companies (and their subsidiaries) worldwide driving this problem.
I'm a new driver I'm 24 years old and I just got myself a job with Booker as class 2 Driver. I had High Hopes for this job as booker is part owned by Tesco and the wage was attractive. On my first day the red flags appeared immediately lazy incompetent management with bad attitudes Unrealistic Targets and Expectations on the run i was sent on a 317 mile trip delivering overloaded cages and picking up empties which took me 5 hours then 9 hours driving . and to top it all off the government driving regulations and Vosa trying to fine you while doing the job. I have tried 3 jobs and all of them are the same Bad Management, Terrible Conditions, Unpaid Breaks all are the same. Summery Its not worth it.
14h? You're so lucky! Go back to them and suck dry to let them know how grateful you are that masters treats slaves so peacefully and not giving him 15h shift....
I had the same problem with my company, I made two 9+ driving hours shifts the first days of the week and three 13+ working hours shifts. Then I refused to do any run that could be around or over 10 working hours or 8+ driving hours. I slept in the truck a couple of times, they need the trucks for the day shift so that hurt them much more than me and the problem was over. They learned their lesson. Long runs that may last over 9 driving hours or 13 working hours only double manned. So I get paid to sleep for 4-5 hours and return fresh at home.
@@kevinparker461 I've seen the Booker guys making deliveries and the amount of handball they do is insane, if I wanted to do heavy manual labour like that I'd sooner go work on a construction site and make more money.
What makes it worse is that most people are aware of this, but they carry on buying from despicable multinational corporations like Amazon because it's the most convenient option.
I work as a consultant in the transport industry and it’s honestly disgusting. I have seen incompetent top level management fail badly and still give themselves huge payouts while treating their drivers like trash and paying them less than it’s possible to survive on.
I heavily rely on agency work going permanent again frightens me. But as Simon mentioned if the permanent staff were treated better and had a pay rise we would stay and agencies wouldn't be needed.
@@Misskld Agencies can serve a purpose in the right circumstances theyve done more harm than good in the long run, Companies are also to blame don't get me wrong. Companies haven't invested enough in training or better facilities and why should they when they can just replace a "gobby" driver with some sucker fresh from the agency who doesn't know any better. The government and insurance companies stuck the oar in with the youngsters because back in the day local lads n lasses used to do Saturday jobs, washing trucks etc, or getting the bug from going with family members, thats all out the window now. I passed in '92 aged 22. Then it was practically impossible get a driving job until 25, so I started at a firm as a forklift driver loading the trailers. I lived and worked internationally 25yrs but its only when I came back I saw how bad it was. The agencies are getting better though as they're being forced to take more responsibility for the drivers but there are still far too many skimming off the top of drivers pay without any respect to the transport industry as a whole. Sorry to go on but I've had a lot of fun and seen more of the world than I dreamed when I was a kid leaving school in the 80s and having seen and experienced the shit that gets piled onto the drivers shoulders winds me right up. None of my not-a-driver mates put up with half the shit drivers deal with.
Im like every other HGV 1 driver, after 17 years im looking to get out, I spent years tramping (shitting in bags in a layby, pissing against the truck ) the general public do not know what we go through, cars jumping in your braking space, cutting you up, getting angry because your in the second lane over taking a Tesco lorry, the jobs a joke, I loved it at first but now I hate every day of it. All for £11 hr here in Newport Gwent. Stay safe happy Trucking guys and Girls.
@@colinlakin It wasn't actually Maggie. It was Heseltine stabbing her in the back and constantly trying to trip her up. The Twats still doing it re: Brexit ! Oh, And the Unions were no friend to me !
Everyone wants their goods fast and cheaply, but sod the driver being able to actually park without being fined for a tacho break/use the toilet. Lets charge them to use expensive overnight parking away from all those people that got their goods happily and cheaply, can't be mixing with them now can we?. Can you see the irony?. The councils are to blame.
It's actually illegal now to park your lorry overnight in lay-by's in Kent. They want their good's from around the country and the Continent but the lorry driver's can go to hell. You would think it would be illegal for the Kent council to do that!
@@fatbloke2285 Yes that would make them stop and think. I work with the hospitality industry and people have put up with low wages for years, this all has to change.
It really depends on who you work for and your own situation personally I wouldn't do tramping my job is OK I have 4 out of 5 days good but the whole industry is pretty fuck up. Needs a massive rethink
That's the REAL reason the CPC was brought in. If you remember the go slow on motorways by truckers after the massive fuel price hikes. Governments thinking was if you lose your CPC, you lose your job! That's the reason many of us wont ever come back!
I get the impression that the French don't put up with any BS from their government, whereas here the majority is forever tugging it's collective forelock, irrespective of the amount of BS dumped on them.
"Janette McCubbin 3 days ago Always fancied being a lorry driver but now I'm too old and a nut expensive to do the HGV test. Big respect for lorry drivers." Sorry to hear you`re a nut ;)
The reason for using agencies is simple - they don't want the obligations that come with having permanent employees. Agency workers can be sacked on the spot or just told not to turn up
Not so true I work for one of the biggest transport companies in UK , clue there green, they actually have there own agency and guarantee 52weeks work per year and guarantee that if there's no work you still get paid and that guarantee us for 50hrs a week, meanwhile there full time drivers only get 40hrs a week and if there's no work you have to take a holiday,
With you all the way on this, fellow trucker. I once closed up my wagon and drove home to use the toilet after being told I couldn't use office staff toilets and sent to some dirty rat infested hole.
One company refused to let me use the toilet, I refused to open the curtains, called transport office to let them know (switched off my phone right after the call) and returned back, total 8 driving hours wasted. I got paid, they didn't get their products and I hope that they both learned their lesson. I never worked for that company and I never went to that warehouse again.
Worst paid? I used to work for the former car transporter firm Walon and the drivers got paid a fortune, poor little darlings were still not happy with their lot probably why the firm went under as they were always bitching for more and working to rule. Then you had the old drivers at Ansa working out of Dagenham, ridiculously well paid AND they never had to cab rough it, oh no, only Travelodge would suffice! That said it was a closed shop full of spoiled, miserable old baby boomers so to be expected....I litterally seen one driver break down in the office because he wasn't given four LWB vans out of a Luton job (They got paid more for them) W4Nkers doesn't even begin to describe them.
@@Luton-Mick there is a shortage of truck drivers because 5G AI driverless vehicles will be taking the industry over...no need for actual drivers anymore.
@@ExpanseRoci Probably a good thing mate, too many deaths caused by tiredness especially by hugely overworked foreign drivers in LHD rigs here in the UK.
Further to my comment below, it seems the vast majority of British business owners are totally ignorant of the fact that their staff is their greatest asset.
Absolutely Agree, I have done many different jobs over the past 20 years and sad to say its all the same where ever you go. The only way to stop it is a complete national strike where everyone just does not go to work until wages and conditions are improved. its simple really..Most people just want abit of appreciation at the end of a days work for a job well done.. managers cant even be bothered to say thank you. All very sad really
I went to an agency once not for driving (the building game) she phoned the employer in front of me after asking me my hourly rate. It was £10 an hour at the time she asked the company for £20 so they wanted the same pay as me for a phone call Agencies are a scam
Jojo Freeman I'm a carpenter/builder, I used to work for a firm who hired agency workers, soon as I found out they were on more I went and worked for the agency... agency at the time were paying £130 a day and I found out we were subbed to the company for £290 a day.. anyway really peed me off so i had a bash on my own only its not as easy as it seems.. I couldn't realistically price jobs to warrant nearly £300 a day (not small ones to start out anyway) so I was no better of and putting in ridiculous hours doing paperwork pricing jobs and made myself ill with worry.. I'm now back working for someone for shitty money again.. wind's me up nearly every day that I'm lining others pockets more than I am mine especially in a world where a solicitor will charge over a hundred quid for a phone call or several hundred at least to represent you in court. A footballer gets millions for playing his hobby, a vet won't think twice to hit you with a bill of 1k for an hours work, same situationwith a dentist.... and I ask myself time and again.. who is at the top of this chain? Who are the key players being butt whipped 🤔 we the trades people. I mean who could do there job or live sufficiently if it wasn't for us 🤷♂️ nobody!!! Now every trade could argue this point to a degree and then you see the chart of wealth 👀.. The top 3% of the population have 97% of the wealth and the biggest commodity is DATA.. our DATA!!! we live in a messed up world and it's time the creases were ironed!!! 🤬🙈😆
Hat's of to your Rev for sticking with it. I'm pleased your saying what it's like for drivers today. It's an eye opener for those that may not have any idea
CPC is a cash cow pure and simple. When i started on HGVs the hourly rate was £5 above minimum wage, when i walked away in 2019 it was just over £1 above yet they want you to be a model professional for basically minimum wage.
@d3adsoulja now is the time to give it a go. Wages are going up quite quickly. But I will be honest, you gotta find the right company. Some will piss you around and expect the earth from you, others will respect you and work with you. It just depends. I enjoy driving, but I'm not keen on the company I work for ATM, so I am looking elsewhere.
@d3adsoulja yeah it is bad not worth it putting life at risk every day for an extra couple of quid used to be really good not any more been getting worse and worse as years go on.this was my dream job passed all my tests did one year of it 60 HR weeks compared to my previous job 35 hrs and in heinsight money looks good but it's not it's because the amount of hours u do. In the end went back to my other job now at least get to see my house and no when I'm home. Lorry driver there's no life balance.
wow talk about getting hosed in edmonton Alberta Canada a city bus driver got over 30 an hour back 15 16 years ago plus benefits n class 1 drivers most got percentage of truck gross 25 percent truck makes 2000 a day you get 500 mostly gravel haulers tho if you work the oil field considerably more i have 2 to 3 million miles on me driving truck i wouldnt get out of bed for what you get paid here criminal really
Well said mate I've got class 2, and I'm not driving a truck for my job currently, they need to sort it out. People forget we have to pay for the CPC ourselves, take that out of the hourly rate along with fines. Also try having ADR with VOSA awaiting you at every corner as soon as they see your orange plates ready to pull you in. Kerching!.
I was in the exact same predicament and to top it off I'm currently out of work now no luck on the job front as the pay is peanuts it's a disgrace it's about time us truckers were respected! 🤬
I never got stopped the last 5 years with the orange plate. My company offered all the CPC courses, 3 for ADR and 2 for CPC. For the normal CPC courses they had their driver's trainer approved by VOSA and we had all these courses inside the company free for all the drivers. Even for the agency drivers that were in the company for long time. For ADR courses, they arranged groups of 10 drivers for one week, they paid for them and we could make our ADR courses for free and get paid. One week doing nothing, having a lot of fun, have free coffee and breakfast, return home at 15:00 and get paid. Happy days!!!!
Both myself and my mate have HGV class 1 licences. We got so pissed off with the job and the way we were treated we both threw in the towel and we now both work for a water company driving around a small van from 8am to 4pm for more money than we used to get behind the wheel of a HGV. And we sleep in our own beds at night. Even if they doubled the HGV wages, we would never go back.
@@Madaboutthailand Yes, there are nearly always jobs going within the water industry. Who ever is your water provider, just go to their website and check out the vacancies. You can set up notifications, so that any future jobs advertised, you will be notified. I wish I had gone into the water industry when I left school rather than pursue a HGV job. Looking back at it, I must have been mad!! When my mate and I were HGV drivers it was long hours etc and everyone wants you there 5 minutes ago. Now we work 8am till 4pm (3.30PM on a Friday) and we get a van to get to and from home in. We joke that the working hours are like being back at school again!!!!
@@Madaboutthailand I'm with you. Drove a van for a large builders merchant and that was the best job i've done so far. Decent pay, really good staff and it was an easy job. Still a lot of handballing cement and timber but I loved it.
You have this spot on. After a 28 career in the close protection industry I retired from it at 51. Payed thousands to take my class 1&2 HGV and CPC. Driving was a real eye opener. I drove class 1 for a few months and was surprised how shit I was treated by both agencies and customers. Didn't drive class 1 again and started to drive class 2 , treated even worse especially by customers who I was delivering to. The difference between driving a class 1 & 2 is about 50p an hour. So why bother driving class 1. I can honestly say that at 56 I absolutely fucking hate the life of a truck driver, especially for sodding peanuts. On top of that everything...everything is the fault of the driver. As well as being the most regulated industry in the UK. I want out of it , i hate it. I would never recommend it to any youngsters.
I share the same story as you mate I got out of it years ago then spent about 10 year driving coaches what is even worse wages but was a better job with all the free kick backs like free meals and gifts etc but even that job is fooked now because of covid 😠
I worked as a telehandler on a building site and believe me those foreigners absolutely smash the work out you nearly need 1 forklift drivers just for them, they put the english workers to shame
@@realtruths2291 perhaps the "telehandlers" should get into brickwork /plastering etc and show their fellow Brit's how it's really done. Then we wouldn't need others. But remember when men have to go abroad to work-and Brit's did (Al Vedersayn Pet Etc) they work all the hours and hard, to then go home to their families now and again. Don't imagine they work like that at home.
@@thertis580 I wouldn't worry, we will all be out of a job when the ai Robots take over. they are building 3d printed houses now they work 24/7 and have zero breaks. Nobody's keeping up with that
DREAD..You shouldn.t be happy for that.Finnaly i got the reason why my last house is of better quality and build to standards i.ve seen in the eastern europe.The quality of the houses in the Uk is atrocious most of them looking after 6 years like a house in Romania or Poland would look after 40 with endless electrical and heating related problems. You.ll have plenty of english workers once the foreigners make you the pleasure of leaving.Will probably go back to the same shi...y standards.The problem what you.pl do when all eastern europeean medical staff leave since english are so reluctant to study and work in this area .Don.t worry solution is more foreigners,this time from Asia or Africa.Either way,is racists brexiteers that still will loose :)))but hey..they could do those jobs if they.d not be making holes in their couch and cry about foreigners stealing their jobs.
This just came up on my feed in the middle of the fuel panic fiasco! Every word in this blog has come true! Employees can solve this driver shortage easily - pay them a proper wage!
Truth of it is, tanker drivers in the UK are on far ABOVE average on the payscale. Problem is HGV generally are not skilled enough to do the tanker work. There is alot more to it than driving from A to B.
I am married to a truck driver, the working conditions are atrocious, drivers are treated like shit by not only the companies they work for and the companies they deliver to. My husband works away all week and I see him at weekends. They are pushed to the limit in hours and also get treated like dirt by the general public. And people wonder why there's a driver shortage, would they do it?
I have noticed over the last month or so that my local Tesco has had many empty shelves lately. Been following the channels who talk about this, Ice age farmer etc so knew it was coming.
@@ian260672 I LOVE HOW.......... LADS ON CHANNELS LIKE THIS ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE ICE AGE FARMER......IVE BEEN SPREADIBNG THAT GUYS WORK FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.
@@ian260672 Insanesburys don`t have half the real food I used to have delivered. Still plenty of processed shyte though, but that doesn`t keep one healthy.
@@DjGlenJon I came across his channel a few months ago and have watched a lot of his video's I missed. He does seem to get things right and knows what is going on. Very informative. Good to see West Yorkshire, I'm in Barnsley, South Yorkshire.
I agree wages are not high enough but other factors have also made the job less desireable. Speed limiters, they have been around for years and not likey to go away but they are set differently from truck to truck and firm to firm, drivers have no control and they take away the responsibility of the driver to drive at a safe speed. They can't overtake a slightly slower truck in a timely manor to avoid holding other traffic up so they are forced to reduce speed to match the slower truck. They then get bored as they have a reduced view of the road ahead, get more fatigued and sleepy and becomes more of a risk of having a crash. The answer is to ensure all trucks from all firms are set to the same max speed of 60 Mph but have a kickdown option which can only be used a limited number of times a day so that a slower heaver truck can be overtaken quicker. The number of kickdowns left can be displayed so the driver knows whether the overtake is worth it. The difference to alertness levels when driving a limited truck to one where the driver controls the speed is incredible. There is still the road speed limit for the vehicle which dicourages speeding but having the ability to overtake makes the roads safer. Failure to do so results in drivers deciding to drive slower than the what the limiter is set to in order to avoid catching up with other trucks that have their lmiter set just slighty lower. Tacho Infringments is another reason, we are humans working in an analogue and variable world being measured by digital systems that don't take into account the fact that a layby may be full up so you can't stop till you find one with a space or an idiot pulled out in front of you and then stopped to turn right delaying you before you reach a stop point. In real life there are so many factors that can make the difference between stopping before you go past your hours or not but as far as the computers are concerned you will get infringements for going just a minute over your time. This could be driving time, working time or daily spreadover time. These get added up over time and are used as reasons to dismiss drivers, so this results in drivers stopping well before they need to in order to comply but are then losing overall spreadover time which office staff don't understand. The answer is to have a buffer zone of no more than 10 minutes which doesn't need explaining provided there isn't a consistant pattern to it's use over a week at a time. Also there needs to be more understanding that because drivers need to stop they should be allowed to do so in more places that are perfectly safe but are prevented from doing so because a selfish councilor decided a lorry parked on an industrial estate or an empty entry slip road hard shoulder for up to an hour doesn't look good. Working Time Directive is another one, we already had tachos but then they added another reason to delay us even further, trying to comply with one rule is bad enough in the real world but trying to comply with both while the office idiots are asking why you are stopping for another break is just pushing stress levels through the roof. Again the answer is to have a buffer zone of no more than 10 minutes which doesn't need explaining provided there isn't a consistant pattern to it's use over the course a week at a time. Drivers don't want to go over their hours but if they can't find a place to stop they have to keep going until they can but they shouldn't be stressed for doing so by being issued with infringments even if it was only for a minute. Drivers are being forced to break the law by putting tachos on break when in fact they are unloading so that for the computer it looks like they don't need a break but in fact they probablly really do need one which makes them more unsafe on the road. We are being forced between a rock and a hard place or a fine if we go over and firms know this and use it as a reason to keep wages low because the drivers are under so much threat of losing their job by accumulating too many infringements.
Driver: im exhausted ive been driving for hours, can i take a break? Boss : you stop that truck before you get there, your fired ! Driver: *crashes* Boss : it was all his fault, i told him not to push him self, he knew what he was doing, he's a proffesional
HGV Drivers have to take a 45 min break after 4.5hrs driving. Can’t drive more than 9 hrs a day, have to have a minimum overnight break of 9 hrs and weekend break of 48 hours. When tachographs where introduced they were dubbed the spy in the cab by drivers but they soon realised that they could no longer be pressured into driving long tiring hours
@@kevinfletcher1999 depending where your driving, pick ups ,if your doing multi pickups you've got to have a full break regardless of actual driving time at six hours on shift . 3 x 15 hour working days 2 x 13 hour working days . Driving you can do in a week > 3 x 9 hour driving 2 x 10 hour driving . ile not go into split breaks to much ,can do 6 x 15 hour days then 5 x 15 and so on Plus every other Saturday . Ontop of everything you've got manages chasing you up , customers moaning your late or to early, if your lucky you can get home at night more often not . Weekend breaks 45 hours off, reduced 24 hours off, every other week . Then theres all the rules and regulations you need to follow plus stress . Everybody thinks its easy until they get qualified to do the job then lots hate it and leave .
@@paulgreaves5752 I wasn’t going to go into all the driving regs, just enough to point out to the original message that drivers are protected from pushy bosses.
There is no driver shortage. I've had my class 1 since 1989 & chose to retire last year aged 53. However I am still class myself as a driver, a driver that has had enough. The most important shortage is of decent employer's.
I had a pcv and HGV licence since 1991 enjoyed the Job lots still do funny enough well I did till I got to 45, then would need to go for a medical which is pointless as I'm a contact lens wearer they changed the medical rules saying now I need to read the eyesight chart with my lens in then wait for this take them out why who on earth leaves for work and gets in to work and then thinks bugger forgot to put my lens in? It's as Daft as saying I went to work and forgot to get dressed it's that stupid. I put this medical to people everyone thought I was having a joke with them as one said its just to dumb to be real! And yes my sight with contacts is beyond 20/20 with out not so good but hay there short of drivers as a number of long time well experienced like me can't drive because of this dumb stupid rule which is ridiculous and no never had a lens pop out of my eyes ever while driving so I'm pissed at the fact I can't drive because of this most ridiculous stupid rule I guess it's called moving the goal posts never mind I should accept its OK to discriminate on people who can do the job well but have bad eye sight with out the aid of lens or glasses. Wonder when they will apply this to car drivers as well?
@Hwang Dong utter pish matey. i am earning the same as 20 years ago, i think that wpuld make anyone curse, as for the dcpc, just another stealth tax to dig vosas inept arse out of debt, farcical course 7 hours a year or not, made worse by the fact mostcend up giving up their weekend time to do it. sorry matey you are talking without a book. ive been driving 34 years 32 class one and am still under the national average age of 55 so too many oldies is rubbish
@Hwang Dong This one comment has confirmed that I did not make the wrong decision in deciding to retire from the industry. I wish you well in your career. Good luck to you.
I'd take a driving job as I enjoy being out on the road but I can't even get to do any lessons to book a test for a car at the moment. So instead I'm more likely to get a full motorcycle license and courier before I'm ever likely to get a HGV or anything else. Those in charge want everything but without due costs.
The trouble is getting Motorcycle licence is as difficult, because depending on your age you have to do a C B T and theory test , the C B T only lasts two years and if it runs out , it's not extended because of covid lockdowns , but even when things are going right you have too get through an off road test then an on road test , one of my sons did the tests then because he was under 24 he was restricted to 47 b h p once he had turned 24 he had to take another set of tests , everything because of covid has been put on hold and you have to wait your turn. , don't know why you couldn't do your bike test with covid restrictions in place no need to close test centres .
@@carlarthur4442 All that cbt bullsh*t is thanks to teenagers driving around on hairdryers crashing everywhere with no insurance . You used to be able to drive anything up to to 50cc on a provisional car licence with no lessons , .but that's all gone now thanks to idiot teenagers.
Absolutely spot on mate I was driving for just over 3 years and at first it was great, being out on your own no hassle from management but that didn't last after a while planning was piss poor by the transport manager, loading issues and the amount of hours I put in and got a decent wage but they treated me like shit, haven't gone back to driving its too much stress and I don't think I ever will.
Ex driver for just over 55 years, now retired, started on transit vans as soon as I got a driving licence and went on to HGV's, loved my job as a driver, lived to drive. But, hated the way I was treated in my latter years on the road, the last job I had before retiring lasted 35 years, but the management changed with the several takeovers of the company and so the way I was treated detreated, till I was treated like a skivvy, if the load was not ready to go I was asked to sweep the factory floor or some other labouring job, because that is what they thought a lorry drivers job was, unskilled labouring. So I agree with all you say in this post.
Not just the money It’s also the long hours inconsistent start and finish times and being expected to sit at a distributon centre for 3 hours to tip 2 pallets.
I’m not a lorry driver except when I was in the fire brigade many years ago,but I want you to know that I’m 110% behind you.The video you made is brilliant,not political,not racist just the plain truth.Oneof the biggest problems in our country now is that a lot of people just won’t except the truth.I really hope you and most of your fellow drivers get your just rewards and soon.Good luck mate and stay safe👍🏴🇬🇧
Simon, have you spoken out about the supemarkets rejecting perishable goods because the driver misses the timeslot? Good friend of mine had a container of tomatoes rejected last week because the driver missed the slot by 2 mins. its a scandal, people bang on about food shortages yet the big retailers get away with underhand tactics like that.
When I started driving HGV's back in the 90's, we where treated with respect and regarded as professional drivers by other road users and customers. When the HGV got renamed to L+E or what ever it is called now (Not Interested) Our Heavy goods licence was also down graded from a professional licence to what felt like a 3rd class driver on our roads. The other problem I experienced over the 20 years of tramping up and down the Country. There was more and more car drivers that didn't know how to drive on the Motorways and when they caused an accident it seemed the nearest truck driver was at fault.
@@daveykerr1146 I was talking to a driver in a big Merc Sprinter . He had 125 drops . I said 30 year ago , i drove a transit pick up and did 8 to 10 drops around Lincs 7.30am - 4 pm deliveries were worked out . Sprinter man was doing 12 to 13half hour a day .
@@daveykerr1146 I used to have a UPS courier come to the office . 10 years ago , he would stop have a cuppa and kitkat , last 3 years he never had a cuppa , cos his run got bigger area . 10 year ago it was 60 to 75 close drops in 3 sq mile . He jacked it in when it got to over 100 in an area 7 sq mile in Nottinghamshire . In the 80s i used to take an Artic to Birmingham area with 60 drops on it and , id be back Friday 1pm . The gaffa used to be chuffed to bits . I bet same type of firms want that doing in 2 days now .
My experience of class 2 driving: "Here's 30 drops for you. You have about 3 tonne of handball today but we have a drivers mate for you to make calls and help lift, by the way he doesn't talk English and can't lift." "Can you put your breaks on while doing drops so you can make delivery windows?" "By the way we're tracking your every move and watching you on in-cab cameras. Oh and we're monitoring your acceleration, idling, breaking, steering." "By the way the tailift doesn't work and you have 2 lights out, it'll be fine." "The pay is £9.50ph but you'll be doing 12hr days so it's good money" "Now stop moaning and get on with it!!!!“ No thanks I'm out...
That's ace haha. I had that once working for bon marche I was with a guy didn't speak a word of English and to find delivery points you had to look at maps and pictures that was a terrible and ridiculous day but he did graft and got them clothes off no time at all haha
Almost became a lorry driver but didn't in the end, spent a long while as a van driver. It's almost the same for van drivers. Some parcel delivery firms gives you so many drops that they're actually impossible to complete in 1 day and you're actually expected to bring some undelivered back at the end of the day, but they just get added to the following day's excessive drops... It just keeps piling up. No consideration to getting more vans and drivers though... Then there was the other job I found myself doing as a van driver... Delivering wooden railway sleepers for garden landscaping. The damned things weighed up to 100kgs each, but I was expected to unload them by myself, by hand. For minimum wage. F___ that...
I have a class 2 licence and went to apply for a job recently. The firm offered me £9.80 an hour to begin with. I terminated the interview and on my way out I said "There's a reason you have 6 wagons parked up" and went back to driving a double decker school bus
I'm one of the 70 thousand then.. I've done it for 22years of endless 15hours days with early starts getting home if I'm lucky on a late Friday night or to have to run in on Saturday morning then to have Saturday night off only to wake on a Sunday to be back in work mode ready for a 3am start on a Monday. its no bloody life at all with all the hoops we have to jump through with Stasi like barrier attendants that stick on a hi-viz vest and turn into anchors ;) My CPC run out and I ain't paying to sit in a classroom for 5 days with some bellend that's never done the job teaching me a job I've done for 22 years. love to you all guys I need to get back in your discord for a good chin wag ;)
Sounds like my husbands past life! He's now working local on 8 hour days dropping roll cages and the odd pallet, poor pay really but home every night, weekends off and still gets the freedom of working alone out on the road so he's happy enough and so am I.
Long hours low wages. I was in the haulage game since the seventies until retirement five years ago. Always been low pay always will be. Parking overnight is getting a nightmare with no parking ind estates and forcing you into expensive truck stops that most hauliers won’t pay for. I wished I’d never seen a truck.
I hate driving a car...never mind anything bigger. The roads are ****. People on the roads are ****. Unless I was paid £60,000+ a year I would never consider it
@@charlieb6001 you're wrong. they get what everybody get. agencies or companies are not paying less because you're east Europe driver... if all east Europe drivers like Polish will leave HGV will be even worse. it's all about agencies and companies rates... spoke to so many English guys and almost none of them is willing to do this job because of money and because of lots of hours.... to be honest usually half of your life behind the wheel....
@Chris Lowndes i agree. even a friend of mine got forklift license, he's getting 12.25 per hour. The company in my city (Leicester) Samworth Brothers is paying for class1 11.80 !!! ridiculous money huge responsibility 😒
And the cost of living today is far more costly.. I bet you also pay more now in taxes as well. Working class people across the west get unfairly shafted.. Especially given what's possible. It really upsets me that our own people will be undermined by a foreigner who's willing to take a pay cut. The cost of living in many other countries is far less. They slum it out for half a year and return home.. They'll be probably better off. -- So much our stable employment was sent over to China. That hurt working class people all across North America. Because of these weasels.. Bill Clinton of the US, Elliott Trudeau of Canada.. Today we're very much at the mercy of China. China manufactures almost all of our much needed goods. All things in the medical industry. I'd say pretty much everything but meat and dairy products. -- Leave it to a socialist stooge to sell us out... Now we have a communist regime looking to be the next global super power. Where human rights aren't a thing and the organ harvesting of the regimes outspoken critics are abundant. Smh..
I work for one of the Big Six energy companies. Ive spent the last 10 years working my arse off, doing my 40hr week, plus regularly doing call out and working bank holidays and rest days etc just to make a ‘living’. I walk into dossers houses and see 65” tv’s on the wall and flash cars on the drive. I have a 12yo 32” tv with some knackered pixels and a T reg banger. I dont drink, smoke or do drugs so eff knows where my money goes, or is it more a case of where theirs comes from. No incentive to graft anymore
"dossers" aren't the problem... politicians being paid 80k for no work then claiming the same again in expenses is where your taxes are being haemorrhaged.... not to mention the 'dossers" are most likely supplementing their income illegally which pays for the big tvs and a nice car... don't believe everything you read in the daily mail...
Stop calling people dossers how do you know what jobs they do I hate people who judge you on what you have in your house...how do you not know that tv wasn't a gift or they pledged their credit for it.
Wait are you saying I spent 25mins explaining the 90 places I need to search a panel van for drugs and illegal migrants was a waste of test time........
35 hours right there!! Damn, I apologise, I was wrong. I think we need 7 hours on teaching us which side the steering wheel is on!! Let’s make it 42 hours long for our Qualification.
@@leonblittle226 How to get in/out the cab safely....if i can get the door open while holding my lunch,drinks,a newspaper and a scolding hot coffee,i'm in!
I quit driving HGV wagons, my company wouldn’t pay too put me through CPC, or give me time off too do it, I’m sitting here ,retired, with my HGV licences keeping my wallet warm, watching the driving industry fall apart , best of luck too all those bosses who wudnt pay a decent wage, ha ha ha ha✌️✌️✌️✌️
Me too, I'm retired of HGV driving. Wasnt too bad when I started. Drove for agencies and as an owner driver. What with tacho restrictions and tight delivery schedules, plus traffic today. Its a dogs life.
Ditto! Got and paid for my HGV license in 1984, I left the industry in 2009 when asked to take a CPC in my own time and expense. One more year before I am of retirement age, but would never go back to driving HGV's, anyway.
A truck firm in Nottingham LIED to me when I asked to use their Shower and told me that they did not have one. So being a good clean Artic driver I went to the outside tap by the gate house in my shorts and flip flops and had a good old strip down wash , and with NO shame and very publicly . Numerous times when the transport companies companies made their barely concealed contempt for we the Driving people obvious , they quickly and with zero notice found themselves short one driver.
Ive just back into it after a 5 month break doing other work and already regretting it lol I've been with an agency on and off around 6 years and the hourly rate has increased about 50-75 pence since then depending on job. I was earning more in a factory.
Well said 😀👍🏻 I’ve was a HGV driver for 25 years and packed it all in about 2 years ago. I absolutely agree it’s basically money, terms and conditions and the hours that killed what was a perfectly good job a few years ago. I now have nothing to do with transport and can quite honestly say I don’t miss it at all. Perhaps if they did get rid of the CPC and paid more money I might consider working part time a few days a week for a bit of pocket money
Same in the NHS. They won’t give nurses a decent rise but are willing to pay agency nurses 300 to 400 a shift at certain times. All agencies should be put out of business. They are the worst thing to happen in the history of employment
Say you want to work 4 days not 5 or 3, you can if your paid £20 an hour work smart not stupid, Agency's work on market forces right now £20 to £25 an hour isn't hard to come by in Leicester the same lads at the same depot get £12, but they can do like me take a jump into the unknown but i think for some lazy scarred I've no idea they just won't. minimum around here for p.a.y.e. is £16 an hour now.
It’s a pity you boys can’t afford to have a national strike. Wouldn’t take long for the government to see how under valued you are. I would be prepared to except shortages for a while to support you
I have been a hgv driver for 25 years and yes I have had enough of the crap we have to put up with, my CPC runs out in 12 months and I am expected to take a week off work without pay and also pay for the CPC course myself, DONT THINK SO ! I will be leaving the industry and have already got a nice 8 till 5 job lined up . Take care guys and gals
yes you get covid as an essential worker infected doing your work then get paid 94 pounds sick per week Wincanton you take the piss .while others sit at home on 80% what a joke
I think that alot of people who don't drive for a living don't appreciate the mental strain of driving all day.Multi-drop drivers have even greater stress, time restraints, parking restrictions, congestion etc.All lorry drivers have my total respect and admiration!Also from my experience are far more curtious on the road than most car drivers!👍
Incredibly tough job. My cousin drives for a scaffolding firm North to South constantly via his Army HGV. Says it's far tougher than anything the military threw at him mentally. Looking to leave driving in the next few months so another one down.
I'm only new to truck driving and binned it after 3 months because of the awful wages and the way we are treated for such a dangerous job is just not worth it agencies need to go I was driving a council ridged truck 26 ton 38 foot long with less than a inch at either side for in tiny streets for 10.41 an hour and was classed as a foreman over the 4 man crew who earned £11 a week less
@@The-Clockwork-Eye you know it's horses for courses, just cause a person off whatever sexual persuasion or gender, male female animal mineral or wtf are you supposed to be??? Doesn't mean they can hack the job. Still be a driver shortage when I retire 11 years if I make it?
This guy is pretty much spot on, but you can add to this, the pressure of timed deliveries, Uk road congestion and hold ups, appalling road side facilities, etc etc etc .
I have massive respect for you guys driving those massive trucks. You guys keep modern life ticking over at the speed that it does. I run a window cleaning business. You guys are much more important to the world working as we know it, plus, like you said, the dangers/disadvantages. You should be earning way more than me. This world seems set up to take advantage of people who enjoy their jobs.
I gave up my licence at 45, probably stopped driving a few years before, I'm 59 now, yesterday, my son and I earned £270 for about 4 hours work, clearing out gutters and cleaning a conservatory roof, all from the safety of the ground as well, home by 2pm......have been window cleaning for about 12 years, no way would i ever go back, good luck to all drivers, i just cant see it getting better
Hgv drivers are the unsung heroes during covid. No clapping for them, just the health services who are in the health business, which is their job as is the armed forces in wartime as is the police all of the time. I have thought this everytime i see lorrys toiling in anti social hours 24 hrs and imprting and distributing goods for us to live.
I have a lot of respect for drivers. God knows where we would be if you guys wasnt on the road. Key workers and heroes. Not to mention some ma agers ask you guys to continue driving after so many hours and little breaks
so you think an infantryman should be prepared to lay down his life for 19 grand a year? I understand the comparison you're trying to make but it's not a good example. The fact of the matter is (As so many people have stated) Wages everywhere have stagnated for the last 20 years whilst cost of living has gone up, and those in the top few percentage have massively increased their wealth. Exploitation at it's finest.
You're right. Without HGV driver's the super market shelves are empty. Last year during lockdown I made s point of approaching an HGV driver unloading at my local Lidl and saying " thank you".
We as drivers have the power. Don't turn the wheel and stick together to get better pay and T&C's. It will work but i'm afraid trucker's don't stick together. The companies are just keeping quiet hoping the government will sort this problem out for them, they know what is wanted and expected but just give 2 fingers to it!!
I agree with you, but as this is part of their plan to choke the food supplies, they will just get the EU army to do the driving at a much reduced rate.
It’s not the drivers that have to stick together, it’s the companies that have to. We as drivers could bring this country to a standstill in a day, but as you are using company property to make a statement it would be classed as gross misconduct and you could be sacked on the spot. Companies need to come together with the RHA and the likes and thrash this out, but if any driver thinks that a company will be thinking of you the driver before profit, sadly your misguided.
Today I was told off by a idiot in a air con, office for using my air con whilst stationary in my truck, Last week my sat nav melted on to my windscreen. Nothing changes Never will. Tomorrow I’m quitting this industry for ever.
Spot on pal! About ten years ago, my boss sent us an email, saying hourly pay would go down from £16 to £10. I told them they could stick it, and decided it was time, despite being a Class 1 driver for many years, to leave the industry for good. I haven't driven professionally since. I could put up with all the shit, but the falling wages were the last straw. I do miss the driving, but to be honest I'm much better off now, both financially and also from a health point of view. The way I feel is that the wages should reflect what a driver is giving up, and often what he or she is giving up is not just the hours behind the wheel, but often their health, time spent with their kids and spouse, time with their mates, their sports and hobbies, their fitness and well being, and sometimes even their life. For all those things, my gut feeling is drivers should be paid at least 50K. Anything less would simply not be attractive enough. Let's not kid ourselves here into thinking things will improve, drivers are seen as just a commodity, and we all know that once the driver shortage gets resolved, wages will be shit again, and drivers will be treated like shit again too. After 10 years out of the game, I reckon it was the best decision I ever made and, although I'm still young enough to get back driving if I wanted too, there's absolutely no way I would ever consider doing so.
Totally agree with you But when you have work mates who sleep in the truck in the yard so that the night driver cannot use it, you really ain't getting anywhere Going in to wash the truck on a sat morning for no pay Putting bits on the truck paid for out of your pocket etc etc Its going to be a long road to sort out the problems in this industry Let's hope we have enough driving time to get there
As a mechanic I can earn as much or more than a mechanics average wage in a factory. Plus in a factory you don't have to by thousands of pounds worth of tools to do your job. And the government charging vat on tools that people need to earn a living is bollocks.
Hi Kevin Jones, I am not sure if you are aware, you can claim back Tax from 'HMRC' for items required to do your work (even if employed by a garage). See link below. www.taxrebateservices.co.uk/tax-faqs/mechanics-tax-rebates-faqs/claim-tools-for-work/ P.S. You can make a claim to 'HMRC' yourself or use an Online Tax company. See link below how to claim back Tax yourself. ua-cam.com/video/eGuVA3uo6DE/v-deo.html
The technology they put in the cars now is stupid. How many of the blokes working in the trade are smart enough to keep up with it all? Plus most mechanics probably have £10-15K worth of tools. Plus you take a lot of wear and tear on your body. You can make more money in Aldi.
I’ve got my class c and c+e and felt exactly what’s your saying. Long hours, don’t know when your going home, possible huge fines if you make a mistake, office constantly telling me my telematics wasn’t up to scratch and a graded system, drop things on you last minute when you think your day is done. For me to go back into it we all want treating better and better wages for the hassle. I enjoyed your video thanks
I'm in the architecture trade. Over 20yrs ago had a flirtation with agency work. Discovered a lad with more academic letters than I was on less than half my hourly rate. Dan had seen the invoices! He was working for ~£8/hour and his pimp Leeds was getting £5/hour (doing nothing) for each and every hour Dan grafted. Think there were four agency chaps in the office. Do the maths!
All lorry drivers in this country have my upmost respect. You do a fantastic job and I am amazed by your professional driving skills moving those large vehicles around. Well done 🙏
They don't send troublemakers. And they know why they blaim Brexit. They blaim Brexit because they won't have Lithuanian drivers anymore, living like prisoners in the truck for 1300 euros a month. Take a look at this: ua-cam.com/video/gGISkzHXEMY/v-deo.html
Wise words Simon and to the point. I'm one of them 70k who done my hgv test in the forces in 2003. I need to do my cpc again but the money is like you say not good and with long hours and 2 little kids now it's tuff. I wish you all the luck in the future pal 👍
I done cpc before I left the army in 2019 as a backup if my chosen job fell through, had to do it for a bit once the job never worked out. Done it for about a week then sacked it off as the man says (the money is terrible) they need to pay drivers better or they'll be going out of business 😂
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Let’s be honest about it !
We are only classed as professional when it comes to prosecution for any offence committed!
Exactly. If it was about safety,there would be no money involved at all.
The professional bit come into play when the boss says hurry up or don't worry about strapping it down ect ect. You know. .arrr that tire will be ok mate just crack on.
Well said
@@stevecane1987 same 100%.
How very true
I drove for just over 38 years for a total of three different employers and absolutely loved my job. My last employer was a family concern great Boss. total years working for him, 21 years. He sold up to a National waste company and I worked for them for 5 years until I could take no more and broke down at the wheel of my truck at the start of my day (4.45am) I had a month off due to stress, this was the first time I have ever been off work due to illness. I cutup my licence, threw all the bloody paperwork and course certificates in the bin and went self employed gardening 13 months before my 65th birthday. I have never been so happy as I am now . My age now is 70 and I will retire at the end of this year.
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gardening is a nice job I bet it made a great change -and made you fitter!
Well said, and well done! 😁
Must be something about the 38 year mark.
I've hit a brick wall used to love the job
When I was home I wanted to be in truck
I now dread starting my week.
Just grin an bear it now.
An it's true
Looking for 4 days a week now definitely no weekends.
My age I have nothing to prove to anyone,
Just a wage I need.
As I'm not used to people il have to keep driving.
For there safety not mine.
That's why us hardcore still drive, we can't put up with bullshit.
So we drive till we die 😂
And when your boss sold up you got nothing. Same happend to a mate of mine he jumped of a bridge abot 12month later.
@@Hedge-Hog that's just sad mate, surely he could have found another job..seen a guy go off bridge A50 start off lockdown there were a few evrey day,. Hit the artic fkd the roof an he went between cab an trailer was messy.
I thought at time a 18 fyt high bridge to jump off to end it poo3 soul he must have been in hell.
Even all the sht with lockdown I couldn't get why any one would do it..
Wages every where have not gone up for around 20 years yet living costs have sky rocketed
Companies are making record profits too .
@@enochpowellslibrarian5595 mass strikes
@@enochpowellslibrarian5595 A Plandemic where the rich have got a whole lot richer and the poor a whole lot poorer.
@@Sametribeeverytime Exactly, look at the virus PPE contracts, there's loads of PPE companies out there but instead of using them , loads of government employees, including MPs, have been getting family members to create a PPE company just so they can award it to them at vastly inflated prices. It's ridiculous. And the people creating the companies are well off anyway so it's just a bonus to them, and the MPs get a nice little kickback.
Nice country we live in !
Yeah it's called inflation. And ask yourself who runs all the Central Banks.
I’m one of the 70k drivers....and yes I agree, agencies are parasites on every industry not just transport!
me too 👍
Blame the companies who use them not the agencies.
One good thing about agencies is you can try out the different types of jobs from supermarket to construction to waste removal and decide which one you prefer. But I do detest agencies as they are taking a huge margin from what should rightfully be yours.
@@thecamel7553 I blame them both!
me too , want to work , don't need to work
Over 20 years behind the wheel and it took a toll on my body and I was getting sick of 12 hour days and getting up at 4 in the morning. I gave up 7 months ago and I'll never go back to it,
@Mickey Mouse i have heard tipping is the one!
@Mickey Mouse
I drove tippers for years, they were the lowest paid drivers, I was on casual, about £15 a day. I think times have moved on for them and it's great to hear that some drivers are doing well.
Only 12 hours, got any vacancies 😂😂😂used to doing 15 s
Me too!
Im a driver from the Netherlands, its the same problem over here. Really early mornings and long days. 12 to 15 hours is the standard. Nobody cares and the drivers who drive now are of low quality. You will see a lot of mental illnes under the drivers. They need to be protected!
Spot on Simon, I'm one of the 70,000. I won't go back. No more snotty nose kid debriefs, no more 14 hour shifts. No more 3am starts.
I am also one of the 70,000 that won’t go back.I now work in a clean factory we have breaks every two hours, and two weeks holiday for Christmas.the money is about the same the industry has got what it deserves.
What industry have you switched too?
@@Nononsensefella I am now working in an electronics factory making circuit boards.the work is clean and dry with no heavy lifting.
I did it for two months with Palmer and Harvey until they went bust. Two months was bad enough. I am another of the 70,000 drivers that won't be going back. The job is shit. I most certainly don't miss the arsehole shop keepers, the irresponsible planners, the 15 hour days, fighting through traffic, stupid car drivers and the list goes on. I don't miss the job one bit. I feel gutted I wasted 3 grand doing the training. My advice to anyone thinking about doing it is don't, just don't.
@@craigprice1567 And no arsehole car drivers and no DVSA trying to bankrupt you. Fair play to you. You made the right move.
They've made driving an impossible job, too many hoops to jump through.
It's a free market. You're free to work for who you like. You could go to college and retrain, start your own business etc etc. Stop F**king Moaining!!
@Jesus Jones who controls you, where you live and who you work for?
@Jesus Jones Amen. Ignore that other guy; his comments are all bot'esque C & P blarney.
@@SB-hr5yr
True but if they all did that there wouldn't be any drivers and people would starve.
@@SB-hr5yr D
Depends on if you have a family and a motgage.
I've just spent the last 45 mins reading some of these posts, they should all be printed out and dumped on the steps of Downing Street, with a message saying " Mr Johnson, here's your logistics problems"
You are under the illusion that "Mr Johnson" gives a f*ck.
45 mins you say, it's time to start driving again pal...
@@alanimals I do drive pal
@@chriswilliams3801 Roger that breaker.
Hear hear!! 👏👏
(A lot more 💩 than that should be dumped on BoJo's doorstep, as well!! 😏)
Drivers are THE most 'essential' workers. Nothing gets done without them.
I've been saying for years that transport is THE most powerful industry in history. The only thing preventing us from getting a fair crack of the whip is ourselves! If a general strike were called for truck drivers, the country would be on it's knees within 12-24 hours. When you have certain companies that will do the job at a loss, naming no names, just to prevent another company getting that contract, and it's drivers happily swan around thinking they are the bees knees then it is no wonder we get shafted.......because we won't stand together and demand our rights.
Well said
Sadly it's the way of the world, pointless unneeded jobs/workers get paid well, all the actually essential workers are undervalued and underpayed.
Just ask coal miners
We can't strike teachers are to busy doing that no time for us
The only shortage in the UK is employers paying the correct wage, there's plenty of drivers out there. Employment agencies should be banned if an employer can pay their premium, they can pay a decent wage to drivers, employment agencies just let employers avoid the responsibility of taking someone on.
now that i can agree on i worked for a short while straight after YTS for a guy who took the piss with the wages so i just walked off the job
Not just in the UK - I’ve worked with loyal commitment for the same French company and not had a pay rise in over 10 years!
SPOT ON!! I'm in Engineering its exactly the same. GARBAGE wages high amount of responsibility, no respect, lots of micro-management from non technical know it all managers and HR reps. Just like HGV drivers, engineers must have formal qualifications to get the job in the first place only to earn less than some kid dunking fries at Mcdonalds.
It's all about the profit margins and it's also cheaper than a proper employee contract.
its the same in nursing mate. the one doing the work gets stuffed. the agencies get a tone of money for doing very little and the employer gets to walk away from any responsibility.
Thank you to you and all the other fab truckers. You kept us going through all this covid bollocks! I won't clap the NHS but I'll bloody well clap you guys and gals!
Thank you very much
well said i have thanked my shop workers a few times over this last year and a bit plenty people have kept us going while we can see vids of empty wards and ghost town hospitals
I'm an nhs worker on 10 quid an hour .thanks for cheering me up don't know why I bother turning up any more
@@cdz12v if i worked for nhs i would have left after this last year it is a disgrace being part of the con
Appreciate !
Well said mate! I am a class one driver with a clean license and 20 years left until I retire.however, I recently gave up driving to work in a factory where I can earn the same money Doing much safer, cleaner
Job.I’m glad to hear the industry struggling for drivers it’s their own fault driving down the wages for the past 20 years.
Working in a factory wouldn’t suit majority or truck drivers they’re afraid of some manual work
@@Yourballix no we are not afraid of hard work,just love seeing every part of the uk each wk.
@@stum8374 sitting on your arse 90% of the day turning a wheel 😂😂
Luke 8 17 gettr
In Britain it's a race to the bottom.
Same overhere in Ireland, we are treated like shite.
Remoaner prock! Stop wasting your drivel!
@@tasha0144 Same here in Canada. And companies flooding the industry with substandard drivers doesn't help. Glad I gave it up.
Welcome to America...
@@killerdoxen sadly the same here in Australia too. Pre Covid, plenty of freight companies were happy to provide sponsored employment visas to, mainly, Indians, then bring them here and pay them squat. Many of them are quite dangerous on the road too as they receive no training for driving heavy vehicles, well really any driving in Australia in general. Add paying by the load, instead of a decent wage, and you get a dangerous situation. It's quite sad that this is worldwide issue, but then again it's essentially the same few companies (and their subsidiaries) worldwide driving this problem.
I'm a new driver I'm 24 years old and I just got myself a job with Booker as class 2 Driver. I had High Hopes for this job as booker is part owned by Tesco and the wage was attractive.
On my first day the red flags appeared immediately lazy incompetent management with bad attitudes
Unrealistic Targets and Expectations on the run i was sent on a 317 mile trip delivering overloaded cages and picking up empties which took me 5 hours then 9 hours driving .
and to top it all off the government driving regulations and Vosa trying to fine you while doing the job.
I have tried 3 jobs and all of them are the same Bad Management, Terrible Conditions, Unpaid Breaks all are the same.
Summery Its not worth it.
14h? You're so lucky! Go back to them and suck dry to let them know how grateful you are that masters treats slaves so peacefully and not giving him 15h shift....
I had the same problem with my company, I made two 9+ driving hours shifts the first days of the week and three 13+ working hours shifts. Then I refused to do any run that could be around or over 10 working hours or 8+ driving hours. I slept in the truck a couple of times, they need the trucks for the day shift so that hurt them much more than me and the problem was over. They learned their lesson. Long runs that may last over 9 driving hours or 13 working hours only double manned. So I get paid to sleep for 4-5 hours and return fresh at home.
My uncle was an HGV driver for Booker & to be honest it sounded a bloody nightmare!
@@kevinparker461 I've seen the Booker guys making deliveries and the amount of handball they do is insane, if I wanted to do heavy manual labour like that I'd sooner go work on a construction site and make more money.
What was the monthly wage ?
Business shows a smiley face to its clients and customers, but at the core they are filth.
Absolutely rite.
What makes it worse is that most people are aware of this, but they carry on buying from despicable multinational corporations like Amazon because it's the most convenient option.
I work as a consultant in the transport industry and it’s honestly disgusting. I have seen incompetent top level management fail badly and still give themselves huge payouts while treating their drivers like trash and paying them less than it’s possible to survive on.
@@tomato6460 it's sadly the way of world now, when only money matters and people don't most are just slaves to the system.
You're not wrong. In my opinion agencies are a massive part of the problem.
Its the only job I know where its almost entirely Agency job advertisements.
I heavily rely on agency work going permanent again frightens me. But as Simon mentioned if the permanent staff were treated better and had a pay rise we would stay and agencies wouldn't be needed.
@@Misskld Agencies can serve a purpose in the right circumstances theyve done more harm than good in the long run, Companies are also to blame don't get me wrong. Companies haven't invested enough in training or better facilities and why should they when they can just replace a "gobby" driver with some sucker fresh from the agency who doesn't know any better. The government and insurance companies stuck the oar in with the youngsters because back in the day local lads n lasses used to do Saturday jobs, washing trucks etc, or getting the bug from going with family members, thats all out the window now. I passed in '92 aged 22. Then it was practically impossible get a driving job until 25, so I started at a firm as a forklift driver loading the trailers. I lived and worked internationally 25yrs but its only when I came back I saw how bad it was. The agencies are getting better though as they're being forced to take more responsibility for the drivers but there are still far too many skimming off the top of drivers pay without any respect to the transport industry as a whole. Sorry to go on but I've had a lot of fun and seen more of the world than I dreamed when I was a kid leaving school in the 80s and having seen and experienced the shit that gets piled onto the drivers shoulders winds me right up. None of my not-a-driver mates put up with half the shit drivers deal with.
Thats not just haulage... Agencies are THE problem for all employment.
In an agency. You become throw away labour.
Agencies have and still are the problem in the jobs market.
Im like every other HGV 1 driver, after 17 years im looking to get out, I spent years tramping (shitting in bags in a layby, pissing against the truck ) the general public do not know what we go through, cars jumping in your braking space, cutting you up, getting angry because your in the second lane over taking a Tesco lorry, the jobs a joke, I loved it at first but now I hate every day of it. All for £11 hr here in Newport Gwent.
Stay safe happy Trucking guys and Girls.
U didnt mention getting sucked off in the dogging layby on the a449 jobs still got its perks
Unions were fucked by Maggie maybe time to bring them back
100% Right keep preaching 👏
I was getting £11 per hour 30 years ago for driving.
@@colinlakin
It wasn't actually Maggie. It was Heseltine stabbing her in the back and constantly trying to trip her up.
The Twats still doing it re: Brexit !
Oh, And the Unions were no friend to me !
Everyone wants their goods fast and cheaply, but sod the driver being able to actually park without being fined for a tacho break/use the toilet. Lets charge them to use expensive overnight parking away from all those people that got their goods happily and cheaply, can't be mixing with them now can we?. Can you see the irony?. The councils are to blame.
It's actually illegal now to park your lorry overnight in lay-by's in Kent. They want their good's from around the country and the Continent but the lorry driver's can go to hell. You would think it would be illegal for the Kent council to do that!
We're All getting shafted
@@fatbloke2285 The only way things will change is if lots of people start leaving the industry.
@@VincentRE79 or refuse to deliver to Kent.
@@fatbloke2285 Yes that would make them stop and think. I work with the hospitality industry and people have put up with low wages for years, this all has to change.
I retired a couple of years ago & would not recommend truck driving to anyone.
It really depends on who you work for and your own situation personally I wouldn't do tramping my job is OK I have 4 out of 5 days good but the whole industry is pretty fuck up. Needs a massive rethink
Same said about the buses, the job is what you make it
But we need truck drivers or how else do we get our food on the table! Sure employment conditions and wages must change.
@@deccanqueen2036 Then don't treat drivers like shit.
I notice that French truckers, when they strike, bring the country to it's knees. Truckers are vital.
That's the REAL reason the CPC was brought in. If you remember the go slow on motorways by truckers after the massive fuel price hikes. Governments thinking was if you lose your CPC, you lose your job! That's the reason many of us wont ever come back!
I get the impression that the French don't put up with any BS from their government, whereas here the majority is forever tugging it's collective forelock, irrespective of the amount of BS dumped on them.
Always fancied being a lorry driver but now I'm too old and a nut expensive to do the HGV test. Big respect for lorry drivers.
"Janette McCubbin
3 days ago
Always fancied being a lorry driver but now I'm too old and a nut expensive to do the HGV test. Big respect for lorry drivers."
Sorry to hear you`re a nut ;)
im 51 and passed last year we needed bigger trucks for delivery's rather than 3, 7.5 toners
I'm 60, just passed mine, loving it
Well done to you all truckers. I'll clap for you all any day.
The reason for using agencies is simple - they don't want the obligations that come with having permanent employees. Agency workers can be sacked on the spot or just told not to turn up
1 week notice for every year worked, it don't seems a big obligation...
some military establisments use the hour rule work that out.
Not so true I work for one of the biggest transport companies in UK , clue there green, they actually have there own agency and guarantee 52weeks work per year and guarantee that if there's no work you still get paid and that guarantee us for 50hrs a week, meanwhile there full time drivers only get 40hrs a week and if there's no work you have to take a holiday,
Agency workers can't be sacked on the spot at all. They have the same rights as any employee
@Minix Tvbox you're wrong.
With you all the way on this, fellow trucker. I once closed up my wagon and drove home to use the toilet after being told I couldn't use office staff toilets and sent to some dirty rat infested hole.
Bruh....over a fucking toilet usage is swear this micromanagement of every fucking need and want is ridiculous.
One company refused to let me use the toilet, I refused to open the curtains, called transport office to let them know (switched off my phone right after the call) and returned back, total 8 driving hours wasted. I got paid, they didn't get their products and I hope that they both learned their lesson. I never worked for that company and I never went to that warehouse again.
@@chrishar110 good on ya. It's gotta be done.
@@chrishar110 i have shit in tesco bags before, had no choice, i have also shit under the truck on the hardshoulder, again no choice
@@chrishar110 Legend !
Good to see someone that does the job giving us the facts,top man Simon.
I've held a class 1 for 20 years, however, I hope I never have to drive a truck again.
“The stork brings babies, everything else comes by truck.” Wise words I heard many years ago, & they’re still true today.
Once that'd have said "by train" or "by horse" ;-) .
But who delivers the goods for the stalk to be able stop the baby off somewhere
You Got it a Truck brought it !
Why are some of the most important jobs always the worst paid.
Worst paid? I used to work for the former car transporter firm Walon and the drivers got paid a fortune, poor little darlings were still not happy with their lot probably why the firm went under as they were always bitching for more and working to rule. Then you had the old drivers at Ansa working out of Dagenham, ridiculously well paid AND they never had to cab rough it, oh no, only Travelodge would suffice! That said it was a closed shop full of spoiled, miserable old baby boomers so to be expected....I litterally seen one driver break down in the office because he wasn't given four LWB vans out of a Luton job (They got paid more for them) W4Nkers doesn't even begin to describe them.
@@Luton-Mick there is a shortage of truck drivers because 5G AI driverless vehicles will be taking the industry over...no need for actual drivers anymore.
@@ExpanseRoci Probably a good thing mate, too many deaths caused by tiredness especially by hugely overworked foreign drivers in LHD rigs here in the UK.
because tories
Maybe because some of those jobs are considered unskilled labor.
Eg. how much would YOU pay someone for cleaning your home ?
Fucking HERO, about time someone said it.
luke 8. 17 GeTTr
Further to my comment below, it seems the vast majority of British business owners are totally ignorant of the fact that their staff is their greatest asset.
Thats the mindset world wide. Big business owners see their workers as overheads rather than vital assets.
Absolutely Agree, I have done many different jobs over the past 20 years and sad to say its all the same where ever you go. The only way to stop it is a complete national strike where everyone just does not go to work until wages and conditions are improved. its simple really..Most people just want abit of appreciation at the end of a days work for a job well done.. managers cant even be bothered to say thank you. All very sad really
I went to an agency once not for driving (the building game) she phoned the employer in front of me after asking me my hourly rate. It was £10 an hour at the time she asked the company for £20 so they wanted the same pay as me for a phone call Agencies are a scam
Jojo Freeman I'm a carpenter/builder, I used to work for a firm who hired agency workers, soon as I found out they were on more I went and worked for the agency... agency at the time were paying £130 a day and I found out we were subbed to the company for £290 a day.. anyway really peed me off so i had a bash on my own only its not as easy as it seems.. I couldn't realistically price jobs to warrant nearly £300 a day (not small ones to start out anyway) so I was no better of and putting in ridiculous hours doing paperwork pricing jobs and made myself ill with worry.. I'm now back working for someone for shitty money again.. wind's me up nearly every day that I'm lining others pockets more than I am mine especially in a world where a solicitor will charge over a hundred quid for a phone call or several hundred at least to represent you in court. A footballer gets millions for playing his hobby, a vet won't think twice to hit you with a bill of 1k for an hours work, same situationwith a dentist.... and I ask myself time and again.. who is at the top of this chain? Who are the key players being butt whipped 🤔 we the trades people. I mean who could do there job or live sufficiently if it wasn't for us 🤷♂️ nobody!!!
Now every trade could argue this point to a degree and then you see the chart of wealth 👀.. The top 3% of the population have 97% of the wealth and the biggest commodity is DATA.. our DATA!!! we live in a messed up world and it's time the creases were ironed!!! 🤬🙈😆
Hat's of to your Rev for sticking with it. I'm pleased your saying what it's like for drivers today. It's an eye opener for those that may not have any idea
How refreshing to see a well presented video; articulate, engaging and informative without being up himself or using foul language.
CPC is a cash cow pure and simple. When i started on HGVs the hourly rate was £5 above minimum wage, when i walked away in 2019 it was just over £1 above yet they want you to be a model professional for basically minimum wage.
I wont try until CPC is gone..
@d3adsoulja now is the time to give it a go. Wages are going up quite quickly. But I will be honest, you gotta find the right company. Some will piss you around and expect the earth from you, others will respect you and work with you. It just depends. I enjoy driving, but I'm not keen on the company I work for ATM, so I am looking elsewhere.
@d3adsoulja yeah it is bad not worth it putting life at risk every day for an extra couple of quid used to be really good not any more been getting worse and worse as years go on.this was my dream job passed all my tests did one year of it 60 HR weeks compared to my previous job 35 hrs and in heinsight money looks good but it's not it's because the amount of hours u do. In the end went back to my other job now at least get to see my house and no when I'm home. Lorry driver there's no life balance.
wow talk about getting hosed in edmonton Alberta Canada a city bus driver got over 30 an hour back 15 16 years ago plus benefits n class 1 drivers most got percentage of truck gross 25 percent truck makes 2000 a day you get 500 mostly gravel haulers tho if you work the oil field considerably more i have 2 to 3 million miles on me driving truck i wouldnt get out of bed for what you get paid here criminal really
Brilliant and 100000% correct mate. This needs televising on mainstream media. Im also class 1 driver 6 years in
Well said mate I've got class 2, and I'm not driving a truck for my job currently, they need to sort it out. People forget we have to pay for the CPC ourselves, take that out of the hourly rate along with fines. Also try having ADR with VOSA awaiting you at every corner as soon as they see your orange plates ready to pull you in. Kerching!.
I was in the exact same predicament and to top it off I'm currently out of work now no luck on the job front as the pay is peanuts it's a disgrace it's about time us truckers were respected! 🤬
Parasite world.
Not just CPC, but medical, tacho card as well. I don't see how you can do five modules of 'customer care' and get the CPC card at the end of it.
I never got stopped the last 5 years with the orange plate. My company offered all the CPC courses, 3 for ADR and 2 for CPC. For the normal CPC courses they had their driver's trainer approved by VOSA and we had all these courses inside the company free for all the drivers. Even for the agency drivers that were in the company for long time. For ADR courses, they arranged groups of 10 drivers for one week, they paid for them and we could make our ADR courses for free and get paid. One week doing nothing, having a lot of fun, have free coffee and breakfast, return home at 15:00 and get paid. Happy days!!!!
Spot on !!!!!!! 👍
Both myself and my mate have HGV class 1 licences. We got so pissed off with the job and the way we were treated we both threw in the towel and we now both work for a water company driving around a small van from 8am to 4pm for more money than we used to get behind the wheel of a HGV. And we sleep in our own beds at night. Even if they doubled the HGV wages, we would never go back.
Any vacancies going at your place? 😀
@@Madaboutthailand Yes, there are nearly always jobs going within the water industry. Who ever is your water provider, just go to their website and check out the vacancies. You can set up notifications, so that any future jobs advertised, you will be notified. I wish I had gone into the water industry when I left school rather than pursue a HGV job. Looking back at it, I must have been mad!! When my mate and I were HGV drivers it was long hours etc and everyone wants you there 5 minutes ago. Now we work 8am till 4pm (3.30PM on a Friday) and we get a van to get to and from home in. We joke that the working hours are like being back at school again!!!!
@@Madaboutthailand I'm with you. Drove a van for a large builders merchant and that was the best job i've done so far. Decent pay, really good staff and it was an easy job. Still a lot of handballing cement and timber but I loved it.
You have this spot on.
After a 28 career in the close protection industry I retired from it at 51.
Payed thousands to take my class 1&2 HGV and CPC.
Driving was a real eye opener. I drove class 1 for a few months and was surprised how shit I was treated by both agencies and customers.
Didn't drive class 1 again and started to drive class 2 , treated even worse especially by customers who I was delivering to.
The difference between driving a class 1 & 2 is about 50p an hour. So why bother driving class 1.
I can honestly say that at 56 I absolutely fucking hate the life of a truck driver, especially for sodding peanuts.
On top of that everything...everything is the fault of the driver. As well as being the most regulated industry in the UK.
I want out of it , i hate it. I would never recommend it to any youngsters.
agree on everything being the fault of the driver , even a fucking puncture!! lol
Agreed
I share the same story as you mate I got out of it years ago then spent about 10 year driving coaches what is even worse wages but was a better job with all the free kick backs like free meals and gifts etc but even that job is fooked now because of covid 😠
Same here in Australia.
Feeling the pain mate, same here, why i quit.. Factory job, more money no hassles... And i get to keep a clean driving record, class 2, pcv 1
Poles, Bulgarians and Romanians doing most of the Building work, but they are starting to drift back home
I worked as a telehandler on a building site and believe me those foreigners absolutely smash the work out you nearly need 1 forklift drivers just for them, they put the english workers to shame
@@realtruths2291 perhaps the "telehandlers" should get into brickwork /plastering etc and show their fellow Brit's how it's really done. Then we wouldn't need others.
But remember when men have to go abroad to work-and Brit's did (Al Vedersayn Pet Etc) they work all the hours and hard, to then go home to their families now and again. Don't imagine they work like that at home.
@@thertis580 I wouldn't worry, we will all be out of a job when the ai Robots take over. they are building 3d printed houses now they work 24/7 and have zero breaks. Nobody's keeping up with that
DREAD..You shouldn.t be happy for that.Finnaly i got the reason why my last house is of better quality and build to standards i.ve seen in the eastern europe.The quality of the houses in the Uk is atrocious most of them looking after 6 years like a house in Romania or Poland would look after 40 with endless electrical and heating related problems. You.ll have plenty of english workers once the foreigners make you the pleasure of leaving.Will probably go back to the same shi...y standards.The problem what you.pl do when all eastern europeean medical staff leave since english are so reluctant to study and work in this area .Don.t worry solution is more foreigners,this time from Asia or Africa.Either way,is racists brexiteers that still will loose :)))but hey..they could do those jobs if they.d not be making holes in their couch and cry about foreigners stealing their jobs.
@@EDD-xr4ub Would you like your own country to be as 'multi-cultural' as England is?
This just came up on my feed in the middle of the fuel panic fiasco! Every word in this blog has come true! Employees can solve this driver shortage easily - pay them a proper wage!
Truth of it is, tanker drivers in the UK are on far ABOVE average on the payscale. Problem is HGV generally are not skilled enough to do the tanker work. There is alot more to it than driving from A to B.
I am married to a truck driver, the working conditions are atrocious, drivers are treated like shit by not only the companies they work for and the companies they deliver to. My husband works away all week and I see him at weekends. They are pushed to the limit in hours and also get treated like dirt by the general public. And people wonder why there's a driver shortage, would they do it?
...and then, when you're never at home you find your wife has been shagging someone else......
@@BibtheBoulder not every wifey does that hun.🙄
@@BibtheBoulder Not all of them.........only about 60% ;-)
Hahaha
I know a guy who works in a Morrisons Daily. He tells me they do not have a lot on the shelves right now.
I have noticed over the last month or so that my local Tesco has had many empty shelves lately. Been following the channels who talk about this, Ice age farmer etc so knew it was coming.
@@ian260672 I LOVE HOW.......... LADS ON CHANNELS LIKE THIS ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE ICE AGE FARMER......IVE BEEN SPREADIBNG THAT GUYS WORK FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.
@@ian260672 Insanesburys don`t have half the real food I used to have delivered. Still plenty of processed shyte though, but that doesn`t keep one healthy.
@@DjGlenJon I came across his channel a few months ago and have watched a lot of his video's I missed. He does seem to get things right and knows what is going on. Very informative.
Good to see West Yorkshire, I'm in Barnsley, South Yorkshire.
@@ian260672 Try Celeste Solum and David Dubyne as well, Ice Age farmer vg as you say.
As a HGV driver you are spot on mate, the agency's are criminal.
I agree wages are not high enough but other factors have also made the job less desireable.
Speed limiters, they have been around for years and not likey to go away but they are set differently from truck to truck and firm to firm, drivers have no control and they take away the responsibility of the driver to drive at a safe speed. They can't overtake a slightly slower truck in a timely manor to avoid holding other traffic up so they are forced to reduce speed to match the slower truck. They then get bored as they have a reduced view of the road ahead, get more fatigued and sleepy and becomes more of a risk of having a crash.
The answer is to ensure all trucks from all firms are set to the same max speed of 60 Mph but have a kickdown option which can only be used a limited number of times a day so that a slower heaver truck can be overtaken quicker. The number of kickdowns left can be displayed so the driver knows whether the overtake is worth it. The difference to alertness levels when driving a limited truck to one where the driver controls the speed is incredible. There is still the road speed limit for the vehicle which dicourages speeding but having the ability to overtake makes the roads safer. Failure to do so results in drivers deciding to drive slower than the what the limiter is set to in order to avoid catching up with other trucks that have their lmiter set just slighty lower.
Tacho Infringments is another reason, we are humans working in an analogue and variable world being measured by digital systems that don't take into account the fact that a layby may be full up so you can't stop till you find one with a space or an idiot pulled out in front of you and then stopped to turn right delaying you before you reach a stop point. In real life there are so many factors that can make the difference between stopping before you go past your hours or not but as far as the computers are concerned you will get infringements for going just a minute over your time. This could be driving time, working time or daily spreadover time. These get added up over time and are used as reasons to dismiss drivers, so this results in drivers stopping well before they need to in order to comply but are then losing overall spreadover time which office staff don't understand.
The answer is to have a buffer zone of no more than 10 minutes which doesn't need explaining provided there isn't a consistant pattern to it's use over a week at a time. Also there needs to be more understanding that because drivers need to stop they should be allowed to do so in more places that are perfectly safe but are prevented from doing so because a selfish councilor decided a lorry parked on an industrial estate or an empty entry slip road hard shoulder for up to an hour doesn't look good.
Working Time Directive is another one, we already had tachos but then they added another reason to delay us even further, trying to comply with one rule is bad enough in the real world but trying to comply with both while the office idiots are asking why you are stopping for another break is just pushing stress levels through the roof.
Again the answer is to have a buffer zone of no more than 10 minutes which doesn't need explaining provided there isn't a consistant pattern to it's use over the course a week at a time. Drivers don't want to go over their hours but if they can't find a place to stop they have to keep going until they can but they shouldn't be stressed for doing so by being issued with infringments even if it was only for a minute.
Drivers are being forced to break the law by putting tachos on break when in fact they are unloading so that for the computer it looks like they don't need a break but in fact they probablly really do need one which makes them more unsafe on the road.
We are being forced between a rock and a hard place or a fine if we go over and firms know this and use it as a reason to keep wages low because the drivers are under so much threat of losing their job by accumulating too many infringements.
Driver: im exhausted ive been driving for hours, can i take a break?
Boss : you stop that truck before you get there, your fired !
Driver: *crashes*
Boss : it was all his fault, i told him not to push him self, he knew what he was doing, he's a proffesional
HGV Drivers have to take a 45 min break after 4.5hrs driving. Can’t drive more than 9 hrs a day, have to have a minimum overnight break of 9 hrs and weekend break of 48 hours. When tachographs where introduced they were dubbed the spy in the cab by drivers but they soon realised that they could no longer be pressured into driving long tiring hours
@@kevinfletcher1999 depending where your driving, pick ups ,if your doing multi pickups you've got to have a full break regardless of actual driving time at six hours on shift . 3 x 15 hour working days 2 x 13 hour working days . Driving you can do in a week >
3 x 9 hour driving
2 x 10 hour driving . ile not go into split breaks to much ,can do 6 x 15 hour days then 5 x 15 and so on
Plus every other Saturday . Ontop of everything you've got manages chasing you up , customers moaning your late or to early, if your lucky you can get home at night more often not . Weekend breaks 45 hours off, reduced 24 hours off, every other week . Then theres all the rules and regulations you need to follow plus stress .
Everybody thinks its easy until they get qualified to do the job then lots hate it and leave .
@@paulgreaves5752 I wasn’t going to go into all the driving regs, just enough to point out to the original message that drivers are protected from pushy bosses.
@@kevinfletcher1999 in what other job are employees expected to do 15 hours spread for 9 hours pay. What govt protection is there in that
@@2904mossie the driver regs are not about pay, they are about road safety.
There is no driver shortage. I've had my class 1 since 1989 & chose to retire last year aged 53. However I am still class myself as a driver, a driver that has had enough. The most important shortage is of decent employer's.
And it will be worst, as big ones are taking more and more smaller haulers under thers wings
@Hwang Dong ouch 😣
I had a pcv and HGV licence since 1991 enjoyed the Job lots still do funny enough well I did till I got to 45, then would need to go for a medical which is pointless as I'm a contact lens wearer they changed the medical rules saying now I need to read the eyesight chart with my lens in then wait for this take them out why who on earth leaves for work and gets in to work and then thinks bugger forgot to put my lens in? It's as Daft as saying I went to work and forgot to get dressed it's that stupid. I put this medical to people everyone thought I was having a joke with them as one said its just to dumb to be real! And yes my sight with contacts is beyond 20/20 with out not so good but hay there short of drivers as a number of long time well experienced like me can't drive because of this dumb stupid rule which is ridiculous and no never had a lens pop out of my eyes ever while driving so I'm pissed at the fact I can't drive because of this most ridiculous stupid rule I guess it's called moving the goal posts never mind I should accept its OK to discriminate on people who can do the job well but have bad eye sight with out the aid of lens or glasses. Wonder when they will apply this to car drivers as well?
@Hwang Dong utter pish matey. i am earning the same as 20 years ago, i think that wpuld make anyone curse, as for the dcpc, just another stealth tax to dig vosas inept arse out of debt, farcical course 7 hours a year or not, made worse by the fact mostcend up giving up their weekend time to do it. sorry matey you are talking without a book. ive been driving 34 years 32 class one and am still under the national average age of 55 so too many oldies is rubbish
@Hwang Dong This one comment has confirmed that I did not make the wrong decision in deciding to retire from the industry. I wish you well in your career. Good luck to you.
I'd take a driving job as I enjoy being out on the road but I can't even get to do any lessons to book a test for a car at the moment. So instead I'm more likely to get a full motorcycle license and courier before I'm ever likely to get a HGV or anything else. Those in charge want everything but without due costs.
The trouble is getting Motorcycle licence is as difficult, because depending on your age you have to do a C B T and theory test , the C B T only lasts two years and if it runs out , it's not extended because of covid lockdowns , but even when things are going right you have too get through an off road test then an on road test , one of my sons did the tests then because he was under 24 he was restricted to 47 b h p once he had turned 24 he had to take another set of tests , everything because of covid has been put on hold and you have to wait your turn. , don't know why you couldn't do your bike test with covid restrictions in place no need to close test centres .
@@carlarthur4442 All that cbt bullsh*t is thanks to teenagers driving around on hairdryers crashing everywhere with no insurance . You used to be able to drive anything up to to 50cc on a provisional car licence with no lessons , .but that's all gone now thanks to idiot teenagers.
Your need a few quid to get a lorry licence these days
@@enochpowellslibrarian5595 the cbt has been around for over 3 decades before those turds where causing havoc
Do it best thing I ever did getting my full bike licence
Absolutely spot on mate I was driving for just over 3 years and at first it was great, being out on your own no hassle from management but that didn't last after a while planning was piss poor by the transport manager, loading issues and the amount of hours I put in and got a decent wage but they treated me like shit, haven't gone back to driving its too much stress and I don't think I ever will.
Ex driver for just over 55 years, now retired, started on transit vans as soon as I got a driving licence and went on to HGV's, loved my job as a driver, lived to drive. But, hated the way I was treated in my latter years on the road, the last job I had before retiring lasted 35 years, but the management changed with the several takeovers of the company and so the way I was treated detreated, till I was treated like a skivvy, if the load was not ready to go I was asked to sweep the factory floor or some other labouring job, because that is what they thought a lorry drivers job was, unskilled labouring. So I agree with all you say in this post.
Not just the money It’s also the long hours inconsistent start and finish times and being expected to sit at a distributon centre for 3 hours to tip 2 pallets.
Good to see you back on UA-cam 👍🏻
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Great video mate. I am in the industry for 7 years and everything is exactly how you put it. Hopefully, things will get better.
I’m not a lorry driver except when I was in the fire brigade many years ago,but I want you to know that I’m 110% behind you.The video you made is brilliant,not political,not racist just the plain truth.Oneof the biggest problems in our country now is that a lot of people just won’t except the truth.I really hope you and most of your fellow drivers get your just rewards and soon.Good luck mate and stay safe👍🏴🇬🇧
Thanks for your kind remarks from one of the many drivers that have left the industry and you stay safe aswell my friend 👍
Drivers are now responsible for too many liabilities compared to what they're being paid
Yep its LAUGHABLE!
Simon, have you spoken out about the supemarkets rejecting perishable goods because the driver misses the timeslot? Good friend of mine had a container of tomatoes rejected last week because the driver missed the slot by 2 mins. its a scandal, people bang on about food shortages yet the big retailers get away with underhand tactics like that.
When I started driving HGV's back in the 90's, we where treated with respect and regarded as professional drivers by other road users and customers. When the HGV got renamed to L+E or what ever it is called now (Not Interested) Our Heavy goods licence was also down graded from a professional licence to what felt like a 3rd class driver on our roads. The other problem I experienced over the 20 years of tramping up and down the Country. There was more and more car drivers that didn't know how to drive on the Motorways and when they caused an accident it seemed the nearest truck driver was at fault.
This is why I'll never get behind the wheel of a lorry
@arfueminute multi drop stopped doing it years ago piss take
@@daveykerr1146 I was talking to a driver in a big Merc Sprinter . He had 125 drops . I said 30 year ago , i drove a transit pick up and did 8 to 10 drops around Lincs 7.30am - 4 pm deliveries were worked out . Sprinter man was doing 12 to 13half hour a day .
@@emclearance5694 125 drops what a joke
@@daveykerr1146 I used to have a UPS courier come to the office . 10 years ago , he would stop have a cuppa and kitkat , last 3 years he never had a cuppa , cos his run got bigger area . 10 year ago it was 60 to 75 close drops in 3 sq mile . He jacked it in when it got to over 100 in an area 7 sq mile in Nottinghamshire . In the 80s i used to take an Artic to Birmingham area with 60 drops on it and , id be back Friday 1pm . The gaffa used to be chuffed to bits . I bet same type of firms want that doing in 2 days now .
@@daveykerr1146 some amazon drivers do up to 200 ....
My experience of class 2 driving:
"Here's 30 drops for you. You have about 3 tonne of handball today but we have a drivers mate for you to make calls and help lift, by the way he doesn't talk English and can't lift."
"Can you put your breaks on while doing drops so you can make delivery windows?"
"By the way we're tracking your every move and watching you on in-cab cameras. Oh and we're monitoring your acceleration, idling, breaking, steering."
"By the way the tailift doesn't work and you have 2 lights out, it'll be fine."
"The pay is £9.50ph but you'll be doing 12hr days so it's good money"
"Now stop moaning and get on with it!!!!“
No thanks I'm out...
That's ace haha. I had that once working for bon marche I was with a guy didn't speak a word of English and to find delivery points you had to look at maps and pictures that was a terrible and ridiculous day but he did graft and got them clothes off no time at all haha
Almost became a lorry driver but didn't in the end, spent a long while as a van driver.
It's almost the same for van drivers. Some parcel delivery firms gives you so many drops that they're actually impossible to complete in 1 day and you're actually expected to bring some undelivered back at the end of the day, but they just get added to the following day's excessive drops... It just keeps piling up. No consideration to getting more vans and drivers though...
Then there was the other job I found myself doing as a van driver... Delivering wooden railway sleepers for garden landscaping. The damned things weighed up to 100kgs each, but I was expected to unload them by myself, by hand. For minimum wage. F___ that...
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God - and the rest of us share your danger from overloading and ropey maintenance on the motorways - bless you all and keep safe
I'm out too. Passed test in 1979, not worth the hassle. Same as working in garage, that's not worth the hassle either
I have a class 2 licence and went to apply for a job recently. The firm offered me £9.80 an hour to begin with. I terminated the interview and on my way out I said "There's a reason you have 6 wagons parked up" and went back to driving a double decker school bus
Spot on pal
My son is a truck driver and having the same crap
I'm one of the 70 thousand then.. I've done it for 22years of endless 15hours days with early starts getting home if I'm lucky on a late Friday night or to have to run in on Saturday morning then to have Saturday night off only to wake on a Sunday to be back in work mode ready for a 3am start on a Monday. its no bloody life at all with all the hoops we have to jump through with Stasi like barrier attendants that stick on a hi-viz vest and turn into anchors ;) My CPC run out and I ain't paying to sit in a classroom for 5 days with some bellend that's never done the job teaching me a job I've done for 22 years. love to you all guys I need to get back in your discord for a good chin wag ;)
Sounds like my husbands past life! He's now working local on 8 hour days dropping roll cages and the odd pallet, poor pay really but home every night, weekends off and still gets the freedom of working alone out on the road so he's happy enough and so am I.
Exactly
😂😂 Them barrier attendants are like “Pay and display” merchants lol.
Well said, I've done 35 years so far 😁😁I reckon it's one of the worst careers you can choose now
Well said pal
Long hours low wages. I was in the haulage game since the seventies until retirement five years ago. Always been low pay always will be. Parking overnight is getting a nightmare with no parking ind estates and forcing you into expensive truck stops that most hauliers won’t pay for. I wished I’d never seen a truck.
I hate driving a car...never mind anything bigger. The roads are ****. People on the roads are ****. Unless I was paid £60,000+ a year I would never consider it
@@momentumstocks3493 Not-so-smart motorways are shit too!
I’m a HGV driver of 25 years and I’m earning now what I was was basically earning 15 years ago
Sadly it’s same in many professions...profit before people .
@@jeremypowell7609 EU to blame for that - eastern Europeans working cheap and depressing wages. Hopefully it will gradually change.
@@charlieb6001 you're wrong. they get what everybody get. agencies or companies are not paying less because you're east Europe driver... if all east Europe drivers like Polish will leave HGV will be even worse.
it's all about agencies and companies rates...
spoke to so many English guys and almost none of them is willing to do this job because of money and because of lots of hours.... to be honest usually half of your life behind the wheel....
@Chris Lowndes i agree. even a friend of mine got forklift license, he's getting 12.25 per hour. The company in my city (Leicester)
Samworth Brothers is paying for class1 11.80 !!!
ridiculous money huge responsibility 😒
And the cost of living today is far more costly.. I bet you also pay more now in taxes as well.
Working class people across the west get unfairly shafted.. Especially given what's possible.
It really upsets me that our own people will be undermined by a foreigner who's willing to take a pay cut.
The cost of living in many other countries is far less. They slum it out for half a year and return home.. They'll be probably better off.
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So much our stable employment was sent over to China. That hurt working class people all across North America.
Because of these weasels.. Bill Clinton of the US, Elliott Trudeau of Canada.. Today we're very much at the mercy of China.
China manufactures almost all of our much needed goods. All things in the medical industry. I'd say pretty much everything but meat and dairy products.
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Leave it to a socialist stooge to sell us out... Now we have a communist regime looking to be the next global super power.
Where human rights aren't a thing and the organ harvesting of the regimes outspoken critics are abundant.
Smh..
I work for one of the Big Six energy companies. Ive spent the last 10 years working my arse off, doing my 40hr week, plus regularly doing call out and working bank holidays and rest days etc just to make a ‘living’.
I walk into dossers houses and see 65” tv’s on the wall and flash cars on the drive. I have a 12yo 32” tv with some knackered pixels and a T reg banger. I dont drink, smoke or do drugs so eff knows where my money goes, or is it more a case of where theirs comes from.
No incentive to graft anymore
Stop watching the goggle box FFS..
Fuck me. I'm a security officer and even I can afford on 06 reg. I had no idea they paid so bad. 🤦🏼♂️
"dossers" aren't the problem... politicians being paid 80k for no work then claiming the same again in expenses is where your taxes are being haemorrhaged.... not to mention the 'dossers" are most likely supplementing their income illegally which pays for the big tvs and a nice car... don't believe everything you read in the daily mail...
Stop calling people dossers how do you know what jobs they do I hate people who judge you on what you have in your house...how do you not know that tv wasn't a gift or they pledged their credit for it.
You are a true professional, please keep going.
The CPC is a load of bollocks, A waste of everyone’s time.
Wait are you saying I spent 25mins explaining the 90 places I need to search a panel van for drugs and illegal migrants was a waste of test time........
Yeah, because that’s worth 7 hours a year isn’t it?😴💤
Thanks to the CPC course I now know if I scoff down junk food and sit in the cab all day with no exercise I'll become fat!
35 hours right there!! Damn, I apologise, I was wrong. I think we need 7 hours on teaching us which side the steering wheel is on!! Let’s make it 42 hours long for our Qualification.
@@leonblittle226 How to get in/out the cab safely....if i can get the door open while holding my lunch,drinks,a newspaper and a scolding hot coffee,i'm in!
I've re-applied for my LGV/PCV license and the DVLA have had it for nine weeks!
I quit driving HGV wagons, my company wouldn’t pay too put me through CPC, or give me time off too do it, I’m sitting here ,retired, with my HGV licences keeping my wallet warm, watching the driving industry fall apart , best of luck too all those bosses who wudnt pay a decent wage, ha ha ha ha✌️✌️✌️✌️
Me too, I'm retired of HGV driving. Wasnt too bad when I started. Drove for agencies and as an owner driver. What with tacho restrictions and tight delivery schedules, plus traffic today. Its a dogs life.
Ditto! Got and paid for my HGV license in 1984, I left the industry in 2009 when asked to take a CPC in my own time and expense. One more year before I am of retirement age, but would never go back to driving HGV's, anyway.
A truck firm in Nottingham LIED to me when I asked to use their Shower and told me that they did not have one. So being a good clean Artic driver I went to the outside tap by the gate house in my shorts and flip flops and had a good old strip down wash , and with NO shame and very publicly . Numerous times when the transport companies companies made their barely concealed contempt for we the Driving people obvious , they quickly and with zero notice found themselves short one driver.
Absolutely brilliant mate!
Ive just back into it after a 5 month break doing other work and already regretting it lol I've been with an agency on and off around 6 years and the hourly rate has increased about 50-75 pence since then depending on job. I was earning more in a factory.
Well said 😀👍🏻
I’ve was a HGV driver for 25 years and packed it all in about 2 years ago. I absolutely agree it’s basically money, terms and conditions and the hours that killed what was a perfectly good job a few years ago. I now have nothing to do with transport and can quite honestly say I don’t miss it at all. Perhaps if they did get rid of the CPC and paid more money I might consider working part time a few days a week for a bit of pocket money
Same in the NHS. They won’t give nurses a decent rise but are willing to pay agency nurses 300 to 400 a shift at certain times. All agencies should be put out of business. They are the worst thing to happen in the history of employment
It's all done on purpose to keep incomes low. Debt slaves is all we are.
Most of the agencies are run by wazzocks.
Say you want to work 4 days not 5 or 3, you can if your paid £20 an hour work smart not stupid, Agency's work on market forces right now £20 to £25 an hour isn't hard to come by in Leicester the same lads at the same depot get £12, but they can do like me take a jump into the unknown but i think for some lazy scarred I've no idea they just won't. minimum around here for p.a.y.e. is £16 an hour now.
It’s a pity you boys can’t afford to have a national strike. Wouldn’t take long for the government to see how under valued you are. I would be prepared to except shortages for a while to support you
I have been a hgv driver for 25 years and yes I have had enough of the crap we have to put up with, my CPC runs out in 12 months and I am expected to take a week off work without pay and also pay for the CPC course myself, DONT THINK SO ! I will be leaving the industry and have already got a nice 8 till 5 job lined up . Take care guys and gals
yes you get covid as an essential worker infected doing your work then get paid 94 pounds sick per week Wincanton you take the piss .while others sit at home on 80% what a joke
I think that alot of people who don't drive for a living don't appreciate the mental strain of driving all day.Multi-drop drivers have even greater stress, time restraints, parking restrictions, congestion etc.All lorry drivers have my total respect and admiration!Also from my experience are far more curtious on the road than most car drivers!👍
Incredibly tough job. My cousin drives for a scaffolding firm North to South constantly via his Army HGV. Says it's far tougher than anything the military threw at him mentally. Looking to leave driving in the next few months so another one down.
I'm only new to truck driving and binned it after 3 months because of the awful wages and the way we are treated for such a dangerous job is just not worth it agencies need to go I was driving a council ridged truck 26 ton 38 foot long with less than a inch at either side for in tiny streets for 10.41 an hour and was classed as a foreman over the 4 man crew who earned £11 a week less
Re think my hourly rate has went up £5 in under 3 months.
Even got offered £28.50 to do a rigid shift today, but couldn't i was still out. Tramper
Welcome to the bins...and those loaders were working much harder than you kid, we deserve more too. Did all the backing up get too much for ya? 👊
@@The-Clockwork-Eye you know it's horses for courses, just cause a person off whatever sexual persuasion or gender, male female animal mineral or wtf are you supposed to be???
Doesn't mean they can hack the job.
Still be a driver shortage when I retire 11 years if I make it?
Frank Pendlebury lol
Where in the uk is that???? In London even loaders get paid ,Lee than 10.41😳😳
This guy is pretty much spot on, but you can add to this, the pressure of timed deliveries, Uk road congestion and hold ups, appalling road side facilities, etc etc etc .
I have massive respect for you guys driving those massive trucks. You guys keep modern life ticking over at the speed that it does. I run a window cleaning business. You guys are much more important to the world working as we know it, plus, like you said, the dangers/disadvantages. You should be earning way more than me. This world seems set up to take advantage of people who enjoy their jobs.
I gave up my licence at 45, probably stopped driving a few years before, I'm 59 now, yesterday, my son and I earned £270 for about 4 hours work, clearing out gutters and cleaning a conservatory roof, all from the safety of the ground as well, home by 2pm......have been window cleaning for about 12 years, no way would i ever go back, good luck to all drivers, i just cant see it getting better
Who on earth paid you £270 for that?
@@MrMickhew People with money, :) and there are a lot of them about :)
Well presented and on the ball 👍👌
Fell across this as recommended. Not a trucker, not into trucking, but was interested in why there is a shortage. This seems wholly plausible. Thanks.
Same in the Nursing profession too.
Hgv drivers are the unsung heroes during covid. No clapping for them, just the health services who are in the health business, which is their job as is the armed forces in wartime as is the police all of the time. I have thought this everytime i see lorrys toiling in anti social hours 24 hrs and imprting and distributing goods for us to live.
Very true love this comment
I have a lot of respect for drivers. God knows where we would be if you guys wasnt on the road. Key workers and heroes. Not to mention some ma agers ask you guys to continue driving after so many hours and little breaks
so you think an infantryman should be prepared to lay down his life for 19 grand a year? I understand the comparison you're trying to make but it's not a good example. The fact of the matter is (As so many people have stated) Wages everywhere have stagnated for the last 20 years whilst cost of living has gone up, and those in the top few percentage have massively increased their wealth.
Exploitation at it's finest.
You're right. Without HGV driver's the super market shelves are empty. Last year during lockdown I made s point of approaching an HGV driver unloading at my local Lidl and saying " thank you".
and just like the hgv drivers who are in the transport buisness. What are you getting at
We as drivers have the power. Don't turn the wheel and stick together to get better pay and T&C's. It will work but i'm afraid trucker's don't stick together. The companies are just keeping quiet hoping the government will sort this problem out for them, they know what is wanted and expected but just give 2 fingers to it!!
I agree with you, but as this is part of their plan to choke the food supplies, they will just get the EU army to do the driving at a much reduced rate.
Actually you do have a point, in France they just blockade the roads until the cowardly and weak government there cave in.
Drivers won't stick together its every man for himself,ex lorry driver.
It’s not the drivers that have to stick together, it’s the companies that have to. We as drivers could bring this country to a standstill in a day, but as you are using company property to make a statement it would be classed as gross misconduct and you could be sacked on the spot. Companies need to come together with the RHA and the likes and thrash this out, but if any driver thinks that a company will be thinking of you the driver before profit, sadly your misguided.
@@buttheyreinvestmentsdear3132 They can't do that.
Today I was told off by a idiot in a air con, office for using my air con whilst stationary in my truck,
Last week my sat nav melted on to my windscreen.
Nothing changes
Never will.
Tomorrow I’m quitting this industry for ever.
I would like to thank all HGV drivers for what they do, it's much appreciated.
Another good video Simon 👍
Spot on pal!
About ten years ago, my boss sent us an email, saying hourly pay would go down from £16 to £10. I told them they could stick it, and decided it was time, despite being a Class 1 driver for many years, to leave the industry for good. I haven't driven professionally since. I could put up with all the shit, but the falling wages were the last straw.
I do miss the driving, but to be honest I'm much better off now, both financially and also from a health point of view. The way I feel is that the wages should reflect what a driver is giving up, and often what he or she is giving up is not just the hours behind the wheel, but often their health, time spent with their kids and spouse, time with their mates, their sports and hobbies, their fitness and well being, and sometimes even their life. For all those things, my gut feeling is drivers should be paid at least 50K. Anything less would simply not be attractive enough.
Let's not kid ourselves here into thinking things will improve, drivers are seen as just a commodity, and we all know that once the driver shortage gets resolved, wages will be shit again, and drivers will be treated like shit again too.
After 10 years out of the game, I reckon it was the best decision I ever made and, although I'm still young enough to get back driving if I wanted too, there's absolutely no way I would ever consider doing so.
Totally agree with you
But when you have work mates who sleep in the truck in the yard so that the night driver cannot use it, you really ain't getting anywhere
Going in to wash the truck on a sat morning for no pay
Putting bits on the truck paid for out of your pocket etc etc
Its going to be a long road to sort out the problems in this industry
Let's hope we have enough driving time to get there
Unfortunately my trade pays rubbish. Pruning power line trees around here almost minimum wage.
I wanted to get my licence and do this job , glad I watched this video opened my eyes
As a mechanic I can earn as much or more than a mechanics average wage in a factory. Plus in a factory you don't have to by thousands of pounds worth of tools to do your job. And the government charging vat on tools that people need to earn a living is bollocks.
Paying tax funds Terrorism
Hi Kevin Jones, I am not sure if you are aware, you can claim back Tax from 'HMRC' for items required to do your work (even if employed by a garage). See link below.
www.taxrebateservices.co.uk/tax-faqs/mechanics-tax-rebates-faqs/claim-tools-for-work/
P.S.
You can make a claim to 'HMRC' yourself or use an Online Tax company. See link below how to claim back Tax yourself.
ua-cam.com/video/eGuVA3uo6DE/v-deo.html
William, Kevin said VAT, he can’t claim the VAT back unless he registered which he won’t be.
I had expenses when buying tools plus I could claim tax back.
Retired railway craftsman.
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The technology they put in the cars now is stupid. How many of the blokes working in the trade are smart enough to keep up with it all? Plus most mechanics probably have £10-15K worth of tools. Plus you take a lot of wear and tear on your body. You can make more money in Aldi.
Well done Simon, there's only 1 umm and thats F**k umm. Good on you fella 👏👍
I’ve got my class c and c+e and felt exactly what’s your saying. Long hours, don’t know when your going home, possible huge fines if you make a mistake, office constantly telling me my telematics wasn’t up to scratch and a graded system, drop things on you last minute when you think your day is done. For me to go back into it we all want treating better and better wages for the hassle. I enjoyed your video thanks
I’m one of the 70,000 and I’m going to stay with the 70,000! Good work Simon 👌
I'm in the architecture trade. Over 20yrs ago had a flirtation with agency work. Discovered a lad with more academic letters than I was on less than half my hourly rate. Dan had seen the invoices! He was working for ~£8/hour and his pimp Leeds was getting £5/hour (doing nothing) for each and every hour Dan grafted. Think there were four agency chaps in the office. Do the maths!
All lorry drivers in this country have my upmost respect. You do a fantastic job and I am amazed by your professional driving skills moving those large vehicles around. Well done 🙏
The next lot of drivers are in 5* hotels waiting to be trained. Coming over in boats from France on a daily basis...
Nah for some reason very rare you see black and Asian hgv drivers, they must already know how grim the job is.
Really and u think they are here to work lol
@@alanwhite7127 😂😂😂
Why would they need a job when free housing free money and a British passport .
Why drag what was an informative video in the gutter?
I got a lot of respect for drivers, when ever you see a lorry (personally I feel like truckers are the safest drivers on the road) should be on £25 pH
£25 an hour after doing a 5 day course 😂😂 what’s the point of doing a 4 year degree or trade 😂😂😂
@@Yourballix and that's exactly why I'm doing my class 1 😂
@@Iced_Diamondz u obv dont know sarcasm
Our driving licence is world wide respected as the hardest! HGV drivers have to do 3 plus 3 theory. Should be 25ph
@@MrTaytersDeep worldwide respected 😂😂 any evidence of this claim
All fines should go to the company/agency not the driver. That way the company/agency will make sure whoever is loading it doesn't get it wrong.
"If you don't take it, I'll find someone who will".
Then gets onto agency.
"This driver you sent me is a troublemaker, don't send HIM again".
They don't send troublemakers. And they know why they blaim Brexit. They blaim Brexit because they won't have Lithuanian drivers anymore, living like prisoners in the truck for 1300 euros a month. Take a look at this: ua-cam.com/video/gGISkzHXEMY/v-deo.html
As a previous driver thanks for saying exactly what we all have felt for so long hit the nail on the head
Wise words Simon and to the point. I'm one of them 70k who done my hgv test in the forces in 2003. I need to do my cpc again but the money is like you say not good and with long hours and 2 little kids now it's tuff. I wish you all the luck in the future pal 👍
I done cpc before I left the army in 2019 as a backup if my chosen job fell through, had to do it for a bit once the job never worked out. Done it for about a week then sacked it off as the man says (the money is terrible) they need to pay drivers better or they'll be going out of business 😂
@@paulyyy09 yes it's shite mate isn't it. 👍