HGV Drivers Hours And Working Time Directive Basics
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2017
- In this video I explain HGV drivers hours and working time directive basics that will keep you legal. these rules can be very complicated so i try to break them down and hopefully easier to understand. this isn't comprehensive but is enough to get you through a working week as a new driver.
I go through maximum daily driving, daily breaks, daily rest, weekly rest and working time directive including daily and weekly driving, working breaks, holiday and night shift health checks.
I'm a Class 1 articulated lorry driver, after becoming bored with 9-5 office work I started my HGV training in December 2015 and received my HGV licence in February 2016 including the certificate of professional competence (CPC) and I can safely say it was a great decision.
I currently work for The Watercress Company delivering fresh watercress around the country in a refrigerated articulated lorry. Every job is different but in these video's I try to give you an insight into my experience as a HGV driver.
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Can you put you vehicle on poa at start of shift ?
If you're out driving, will you need to stop and switch your Tacho over to restif you're coming close to your 6 hours on the WTD even if you've only been driving for about an hour or so, or, can you stop and rest (taking note of when you've done it) without the need of having to change over your Tacho? Many thanks in Advance @KevTee :)
Did you mention what a poa was?
Hi Kev, just sitting the CPC at the moment, the 90 hour bit at the start of the vid you say if you do 56 hours one week you can only do 34 the following week, which is correct, but you also would have to do only 34 the week before the 56 hour week, remember it’s no more than 90hours in ANY 2 consecutive weeks. Or did I pick that up wrong?
Hi kev
The person(s) who came up with these rules must have been drunk.
So much to think about. The mind boggles. Surely they should simplify it so a driver can focus on driving and safety.
Exactly, instead of wondering if ur gona go over ur hours and desperately trying to find somewhere to pull over. Joke tbh.
People assume all we do is sit on our arses .. people in the game know the job isn't easy.i love it because it's a adventure everyday.i use to sell cars earning 50k plus a year. You soon quicker learn out in life it's not about money it's about life experience. You cant take money to the grave with ya. Keep it going. Cheers for the advice and video fella.
I'm saving this as a reference. I passed my Class 1 this February but haven't worked my first HGV job yet so all the stuff I had to remember for my theory and CPC exams has almost gone out the window so thank you for this vid. I remember that there are more rules but if this covers me then that's fantastic!
I'm in the same boat pal this helped me a lot
As with all laws they make them overly complicated especially when it comes to driving. It should be a lot clearer and simpler than it currently is.
Agreed man, i imagine all the confusing laws will make new drivers especially more nervous and make them very anxious when driving, people rushing about to try and get a rest in as quickly as possible and that, hopefully something changes in the future to make things more simpler.
I'm a trucker in the states and you're trucking rules are extremely confusing, I thought ours where but not anymore lmao
I'm a new pass class 2 and messed up on my interview because I didn't fully understand my driving hours, something iv taken lightly. Luckily they've given me a second chance and this video is helpful, thankyou
Clear and concise. Should be enough for most standard drivers. Thanks Kev!
What a head bender! Been out the game for years and getting back into it. Thanks for the upload mate 👍
Hi Kev i think this is a great video for new drivers to watch it really is
keep up with the great work that you do and keep them great videos coming
drive carefully and take care and stay safe my friend
Great video Kev. About to do an assessment with employer for my first job so your video a big help.
Iv drove hgv for 5 years and when you started explaining the 24/45hr rest period, you even got me Lost AF
Same
Cheers Kev starting a job on Thursday class one and two took a few screen shots of the data you provided ,much obliged
Hi kev great video m8. I am going for my class 1 training in a weeks time. I am happy as well scared too at the same just because of the sheer size of class 1
Wow.,, thank you so much.. brilliantly explained 👏🏻👏🏻
Excellent video I really found this helpful as a new trucker nice one Kev 👍👍👍
Cheers Stuart, glad you got something out of the video 👍
Thank you Kev. Found this very useful :)
...and drivers in America think the Hours Of Service are complicated. Ours is fairly simple; coming off a 34 hour rest break, we get a fresh clock. We can work 70hrs (driving and on duty not driving combined). Our dailies are, we can work 14 hours a day, but no more than 11 hours can be driving. We must take a 30 min break within the first 8 hours of starting our clock. If we take it too early, if we want to drive the max amount of hours that day, we might have to take another. We also have a bunch of exceptions for certain types of trucking. So I don’t usually log a rest break until 6 hours so I don’t have to stop again. Thanks for these videos. It’s interesting to see how other countries do it.
Is right Kev. Respect for putting the info out there for everyone and breaking it down. Far too much to the regs in my opinion. Surely could be simplified much more so that it’s easier to adhere and understand in the first place. But what can you do. Thankfully got people like yourself to break it down for us 👍🏼
Hi Kev, I'm loving your vlogs, thank you for posting x
Hey Amanda, glad your enjoying the vlogs, thanks for the support 👍
KevTee no problem x
thanks for the video. wish this came out a year ago when i first passed hehe:) always nice to have a recap
+Reece Gray glad you found it helpful mate, it's easy to forget some of the regs when you don't use them everyday.....
Thanks @kevtee, really helpful. It's confusing me and I'm going for my class C, so bit nervous as new driver.
That was great m8 I was sitting my CPC last week and there was a lot I didn’t understand
helps a lot looking to get into driving and got my CPC tomorrow so very useful video for me thank you
Hope your CPC went well 👌
KevTee I'm the 2nd day in 3days left death by power point lol
Very helpful kevtee
Thank you
Thanks kev cleared a couple of point up
Many many thanks, very informative and educational.
Very helpful mate, well done.
Great vlog mate, you made it simpler than the cpc trainers i had lol. Just one thing, night worker is between 12 and 4.
+paul hooper cheers Paul, I wasn't to sure about the night times so thanks for clearing that up 👍
Thanks Kev, very informative.
Glad you found it helpful les 👍
Thanks Kev that's helpful, I find it all rather confusing
Thanks for this Kev, I'm doing my CPC module 2 this week and this is one of the areas that I am struggling with, thanks for the help!
+Rob Pethers no problem Rob, glad you found it helpful and good luck with the CPC 👍
+Kevtee, Failed man, by 1 mark!!!!
+Rob Pethers that's really bad luck mate, not to worry, get it re-booked asap, now you know what to expect, I'm sure you will smash the next one 👌
+Kevtee I know I was propper worried about it and it really wasn't as bad as i was expecting, there was a couple of trick questions in there aswell so think they got me! Booked in for 7th november
+KevTee I PASSED!!!!
To a degree it pretty much depends on what aspect of trucking you do as certain trucking jobs will involve different aspects of the tachograph regs etc but as a rule if you work Monday - Friday etc and finish Fri afternoon and start at say 6am Monday etc and have every weekend off your weekly rest takes care of itself because you will always have had more than your weekly required rest etc
Plus it gets easier when a driver knows how to read their day eg knowing before they start their shift how busy their day will be and how long certain deliveries take at certain customers etc eg getting to know which customers get drivers tipped quick and which customers keep drivers waiting etc
If you allow extra time for each delivery allowing to be kept waiting etc you can plan your breaks easier instead of expecting every delivery to be a quick tip and getting frustrated when kept waiting which creates pressure and stress behind the wheel when trying to make up time etc which is where mistakes happen and infringements will add up with new drivers etc
But combining the working time directive with driving time break etc preferred by most
But as long as you keep an eye on both driving time and working time directive time most truck driving jobs will have a couple of deliveries before break and a couple of deliveries after break etc which makes it virtually impossible to have driven 4.5hrs within 5.5hours for working time directive break as you would have been on other work doing your checks etc for 15 mins etc so unless you have over 4.5 hours to drive to your first delivery etc you'll usually only do about 3hrs to 3.5hrs driving before you need to start your working time directive break which in this example makes sense to have a 45 min break which covers both breaks and is easier on the brain lol leaving you to relax and listen to the tunes with arm out window lol but only if you know you'll be back at depot within 4.5 hrs etc to allow for refueling vehicle and or washing vehicle and drivers debrief etc all of which in a large companies etc you will no doubt be in queues etc which you will need to have allowed time for during your day as not allowing for these duties in the yard etc can cause infringements when drivers don't allow extra time for these duties and sit looking like a lemon when having to go on break in yard to allow for other work etc
Reading your day before you start your working day saves time during the day which is why you'll see drivers having a natter and a couple of coffees before they leave yard as usually they are thinking their day through eg working out how to miss busy road junctions etc which will save much more time than the 10 mins it cost drinking coffee lol
Purely my opinion based on my experience with no infringements for quite some time
It is always your responsibility to make your self aware of tachograph regs etc and no one else's
+numberplate guy some great advice there mate, thanks for taking the time give your valued input, I'm sure it really will help some of the new guys ......pinned comment 👍
Thanks for the vid, I"m just about to start my HGV journey and this seems the most complicated part of the whole process.
Agree. Same here.
Thank you very much...very gooood explanation 🙏
Excellent kevtee top man top vid👌👍
Top vid!... .. keep up the great work. Joe
+j go cheers Joe 👍
Do you know, this is the best drivers hours/wtd video I've seen. I'm newly qualified and I wish this video was made two months ago, very informative! :) I've mostly got the basics down now, but it's nice to know someone's made an effort to explain the bollocks EU legislation
+jonnieiain Cheers mate, much appreciated, it mostly comes with experience and you soon pick it up when your doing it everyday 👍
Awesome video I'm pretty sure I have a good understanding the regs I'm newly qualified so just getting to grips with them all.....For the wtd if you don't need any eu brakes could u take a 15 min just shy of 6 hrs the the following half hour 6 hrs on from the end of youre last shift or does it need to be taking by 9 hrs ?
Hi Kev, I have started a new job driving Monday - Friday days trunking and start at 6am-2pm, so I spend a lot of time waiting to be unloaded than driving, so what I do is at around 10-30am have a 45min break, So that will wipe the slate clean till 2pm, Hope this is ok as no one has said as yet,! Cheers,
Hey Dave, yes what you are doing sounds good, your break would actually wipe the slate until you have done 4 1/2 hours driving. If you don't do over 4 1/2 hours driving you would only need 15 mins break before 6 hours working to cover your WTD. Hope that helps 👍
very helpful video easy👏
Nice video! Keep it up!
+MisterBassBoost Cheers mate, thanks for watching....
It's been 3 years m8 since you did that blog, vlog, and I still refer back to it when going for a assessment, which I am tomo. I'm andy, the guy you met in the queue at Margam. Stay safe bud
Nice one mate, really glad your still finding the video helpful 👍
@@KevTee just every now and then I need to remind myself. You look really happy working for trent, and having fun rescue a few bangers. You've moved on with your content where others have stayed same old same old. You've come a long way since that vlog, and haven't aged a bit 😅 Keep up the great work Kev and please stay safe.
Hi Kev, great vids as always. I’ve read that a 45 min driving break will count towards your working time directive breaks, up to and over 9 hours, but you say otherwise. Whoever makes these rules needs shooting they could be so much simpler.
Absolutely you 45 minute driving break will cover your working time directive breaks 👍
@@KevTee , can I take two 15 mins break to cover 6-9hours WTD or does it have to another 30min once I clock 6hours?
This video was very helpful. Iv only been driving for just over a year. I drive a class 2 doing multi drops. I do have a question. If i worked a 12 hour shift. And dont go over my driving time. Instead of taken a 15 and a 30 min or a full 45 min break. Could i split it into 3 15 min breaks? Iv been told i can from one person and cant from another.
Cheers pal. It really helps.
This is really good 😎
I have been on road over 11 year with one company, I just left it and I went to Sainsbury interview and I failed test because I scored 50% on working time 😩, now this would be great if I go back in 3 month 😁.
i need to know this for a driving assessment tomorrow .. surely they do not expect a new driver to remember it all without a laminated guide in their lunch box to help them each day til it becomes cemented
Thanks. Im not a HGV driver but hopefully get into truck driving in the future. Its learning about all the rules confuses me.
+Niall as long as you have the basics mate, the rest of it starts sinking in whilst your doing it, us drivers still get confused sometimes.
Sounds complicated Kev, I'll have to put a calculator in my basic kit. Thanks for the vid.
+Digital Samurai next week's video will show you how to keep track of your hours mate 👍
Very helpful 👌
Thanks very helpful 👍
Thank you for video. I have question . If I started my work Monday at 3.00am and finish Friday 4.00pm(5days) my employer sold me I can have in Saturday reduced weekly rest 24h and in Sunday morning will be started next week, this is correct? He want do that because he don't have work for Saturday but for Sunday , I don't want work like that because I must calculate my weekly time like 6 periods but better is calculate from 0000 Monday to 0000 Sunday. Can employer required do weekly rest when he don't have job after 2 worked days?
Hi kev I'm trying to get my head around this my work place is Monday-Friday sat and Sunday no driver jobs 8am till about4 .
Hi Kev, what do I need to do when inserting my new 2nd tachograph card for the first time. Thanks, Liam.
Very good explanation
Can you help me with a question
Is I start my shift 6am
Drive 3 hours to the cliente and waiting 2 hours to unload
During this time I put on break all time, but I believe count 45 min.
And return to original place empty, drive another 3 hours and do another drive to load again for next day and finished by my shift after 4 hours after 45 min break
The question is
I need 15 min break again before finished my shift
So you can work 4 14hr days Monday to Thursday which includes 4 days of at least 3 hrs poa & break a day so bringing each day down to 11hrs as long as you have an 11hour break on at least one of these day ? and then work under 13 hrs on the friday
thanks very Helpful
what is the rest peroid if you reach of 90 hours driv time. i have reachd the max but have no idea how much rest I am needing.
Hello kevtee
Can you telling me
What is the working time directive average working week?
What can the weekly rest period be reduced to?
Pls tell me
Thank you
grate help thanks
I think dvla should put the viedo on there website you make it so simple and easy
Another useful video. Ref wheel nuts question. We used split breaks on international work. Allowed us to start daily rest on ferry, drive off at other end, then park up to finish rest off. You needed to increase rest by 1 hour and there was a time limit on the movement. We used it quite a lot as many ferry crossings were shorter than the rest period. All this was a long time ago so don't know if this has changed.
Glad you found it helpful Paul. Yes, there is a ferry mode on the tacho that allows you to do what you've explained, I've not had to use it myself but I'm sure you can interrupt a daily rest to board and depart the ferry for up to an hour but the time must be paid back, or something along them lines.
Hi
For example if I work as a van driver (under 3.5 tonnes) with a company on one night shift starting at 9:30pm and finishing at 4am, then the same day my shift starts at 4pm as a hgv driver with the same company. Would that be alright according to the daily rest period as I would have had 11 hours of rest? Also would I need to note down the working period as a van driver? I would appreciate if you could shed some light.
Thanks
hi there ,just wondering if i have to use my digital drivers card if im just shunting ?
How do you keep track of how much driving you have done already and how much rest you have had and how many hours you have worked etc?
great video. who is excluded from directives?
Just a quick one if anyone knows. I'm new to driving and had my second day driving yesterday. So I took my 15min break before I exceeded my 6 working hours. I did a total of 7 hours working time when I arrived back at the yard and I ejected my card. Did I have to put it on another 15minute break because I'd done 7 hours? I only had a 15min to cover the whole 7 hours.
Hi is weekly rest in blocks of 24 hrs or any rested hours add after 24hrs like 30 or 38hrs?
Can you do a video on how you fill in your log book and how you acknowledge how many hours you have worked
We use digital cards not log books
Cheers mate doing my theory , it’s a bit confusing . But it’s slowly sinking in
It won't sink in properly until your out actually doing it, as long as you've got the basics 👍
Sitting at a bay for 4 hours is this to be logged as poa and there for not included in wtd? Thank you
Thanks mate 👍
Hi! It is right to take 15 minutes before 6 hours + 15 minutes before 9 hours and another 15 minutes after 9 hours but before end of the shift (day work)? Thank you.
So if u work up to 6 hours on wtd an u take your 15 min break that counts for a driving break aswel so the wtd break will do for both. In other words which ever time limit comes up first wtd/driving time each does for the other so one break only for both.
5.6 weeks holiday a year not including bank holidays? Does that include time off at Christmas?
I'm confused is this 48 a week just work or is it work and driving and the driving hrs something separate
Top job sir
+FATBOY666 Cheers dude 👍
Hi Kev, love the video :) One question about working hours.... If when you are doing "Other work" say around the yard, would you take your card out of the unit so it dosent register hours doing other work?
+Niall Hi Niall, I record all my working hours, it's an offence not to and my licence is my income so wouldn't do anything to jeopardise that 👍
Never been so confused in my life
Noticed a few shitty comments😒... tell them to go bollocks. You done well on this vlog buddy and had the balls to post it👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻... I’m digging for the 36 hour rule if parked up at base and I’ve gone home. If I’m parked up at base and gone home, do I need a 24 hours off or 36 hours off?(this is on working every other Saturday)... I’m very sorry if any of this doesn’t make sense I do apologise. But hopefully you get me👍🏻.... thank you for sharing the fellow trucker, I’m still very new at this game, and it’s starting to get to me abit
I think the statutory minimum of 5.6 weeks holidays pa include the 8 days bank holidays (plus the minimum of 20 days pa).
When you have 9 hour overnight breaks make sure you do not exceed 10 hours driving in the 24 hour period which you can do if you drive 41/2 hrs previous day next morning 41/2hrs then 45min break and drive again for more than 1 hour you will exceed 10 hrs in 24 so beware of rolling days 2nd morning have longer breaks
Thanks very good info .What is the maximum working time is allowed per day ?
+marvily eduards 15 hours 3 times a week then it drops to 13 hours for the rest of your week 👍
Thanks for the advice.
I'll never understand why the powers that be don't simplify it.
if your 40 minutes from home can you run on and use the ferry time rule or not. asking for a friend
Great video Kev. Nice shades too. What make are they?
Thank you and Specsavers believe it or not 😂
have a question. POA... I was stuck in a parking site for over 29 hours. My boss forced me to use 24 rest. Should I have used POA instead.? what i have not told you is that the end of the particular week. My tacko stated that I only had 14 hours and 30 mins of drive and work time. What should i have. I did the maths at the 75.30mins. whilst paused in germany. Had to deliver items in the ECO zone where i needed paperwork but none present in the cab. 500 euro fine if caught. furthermore the final drive home would have taken 14 hours with no chance of pausing for traffic or accidents. 1 leave the truck and go home. 2 finish the jobs x2 delivery and run out of time due to 90 hours marker. I am at a los please reply back.
my working time has gone over 48hrs over a 26 week that's with breaks taken off they gave me days off after I complained but my time has gone over again am I breaking the law
Thank you!
Does it flag up at your work if you go over the time
Hi do you know the rules on split breaks?
Hi, thanks for valuable video. Just a question , I came across this question in one of the assessment tests , it's regarding daily rest. Have you ever heard anything about "split daily rest"? I know we can reduce daily rest to to nine hours three times a week but this must be something else which did not ring a bell o me ! If you know anything about this "split daily rest" I like to learn too, thanks.
Yes, you can do a split rest, the first rest period must be at least 3 hours and the second at least 9 hours, meaning 12 hours minimum rest in a 24 hour period. hope that helps 👍
Hi, with the uk no longer a part of the EU, why dont they change the hours to a more simpler rule like, 10 hrs driving, 13hr total a day, 1 hr break between the 10 driving. 11 hrs sleep/rest every time. Max of 5 day work week.
Sound simpler??
Do I have to input driving analog Tachodisc info on to digital Tacho card‘ as some days I drive both analog and digital vehicles
Not as far as I'm aware mate, just make sure you keep the tacho disks with you for 28 days and then hand them into the office 👍
Hi KevGreat video, really informative, could I just tweak it a litte with the 90 hour fortnight ? The 90 hour driving rule is "any two weeks" not two consectutive weeks! Rule is Week 1 = 34 hours, Week 2 = 56 hours, week 3 must also be 34 hours. Hope you don't mind me mentioning, ta Debbie
+Debbie Lucas Hi Debbie and thank you. You are quite correct but consecutive just means 'following each other' there for in your example week 2 and 3 are still consecutive weeks so the terminology is correct. I hope that makes sense. Cheers
IF I drive for 3 hours then have 45 min break then drive for another 4 hour then have 30 min break then drive for another 1.5 hour then have 15 min break then drive for another 1.5 hour is this legal ?
Nice videos kev
if I drive 2 hours and take 15 min then drive another 2 hours and take a 30 mins , can I then drive for another 5 .5 hours ? With out a brake??
No you can't. Your maximum driving hours is 4 and half hours. So you must take a 45 minute break, then you can drive the extra hour
Is there a simpler way of saying it? So i can drive 9 hours a day. 4.5 hours drive, 45 minutes break, 4.5 hours drive, day is done and rest time of 11 hours till i drive again? Is that right? So confusing or am i just not getting it. Looking at change of job
I drive for 4hrs, take a 45min. I drive for another 4hr, take a 45. What happens to the 1/2 hour driving I didn't use in my first stint and my second stint driving (1 hour total)? Do I just lose it?
Your vid was great. Some great info, put so it's easily understood -- thanks.
+DJC123 Hey mate, you can use the remaining hour after the second 45min break So, 4 break 4 break 1 = 9 hours driving or 4 break 4 break 2 = 10 if your doing a 10 hour driving day.
Hope that makes sense mate 👍
It certainly does, mate.
Thanks for the quick reply.
+DJC123 no probs bud, anything else just drop me a message 👍
Hi Mate last week i worked 62 hours included 5×45 minutes breaks my boss ask me to work on Saturday but i can't work more then 60 hours i drive just 39 hours, sometime i need to wait at port 2 hours or sometime can be 10 minutes can i change my tacho to poa when i am waiting at port ,
you can if you know the amount of time you will be waiting, I prefer to use break as POA can mess with your times.
Night hours for HGV driver start from 00:00 to 4:00am in UK.