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  • @76golong73
    @76golong73 5 місяців тому +8

    I am all in on Metaphor! At one point early in the presentation Katsura Hashino said that this was a culmination of the team's work on the Shin Megami and Persona games, and it definitely looks like a blend of elements from both series; its lineage is quite obvious. I'm loving the art style, that slick UI, and the hybrid battle system (which, if you think about it, is kinda what you could do in Mementos in P5R.) Flipping the fantasy perspective is intriguing, and I'm curious where the story will go. That Special Edition pre-order is seriously tempting, too! This was already on my most wanted list for this year, and now it's my number one!

  • @KenSensei
    @KenSensei 5 місяців тому +1

    At first, I was thinking about Atelier Marie when they speak about their traveling system which passes the day on your calendar, but I got a huge relief when they also said it will be a "free time mode" for you to play.
    If the travel was instantaneous, I'll riot lol

  • @bestgamer-1st73
    @bestgamer-1st73 5 місяців тому +4

    You are by far the best channel to talk about the latest trailer and analyze it. It's truly a unique game. From what I know, the calendar system in the Persona games works in a creative way, making it unique even to this day. Mixing it with RPG elements and battles will truly make this game a masterpiece and give it its own structure among the strongest RPGs.
    It took the simulation elements to the next level, to the point where now I fear how Persona 6 could match this level of game design quality.

    • @kedaniosi1283
      @kedaniosi1283 5 місяців тому +1

      حياك الله

    • @bestgamer-1st73
      @bestgamer-1st73 5 місяців тому

      ​@@kedaniosi1283 الله يحييك. ^^
      منور.

    • @kedaniosi1283
      @kedaniosi1283 5 місяців тому +1

      @@bestgamer-1st73 بنورك
      قرأت تعليقك قبل ان تعدله
      اتابعك على تويتر و لاحظت تعليقك فأحببت ان اترك ردًا، احترمك و احترم نظرتك للاعمال الفنية.

    • @bestgamer-1st73
      @bestgamer-1st73 5 місяців тому +2

      @@kedaniosi1283 أشكرك، وأعتز بشاهدتك واحترامك.❤
      عدلته لأني عرفت قناتك بعد ما دخلت لها، وأذكر شاهدت مقطع عن فاير إيمبليم وكان جميل.
      لكن اليوتيوب بآخر فترة صار يخبص بالأسماء في الكومنتز.

  • @guilbartt3006
    @guilbartt3006 5 місяців тому +3

    I am just blown away at how good it looks, plus the gameplay seems seriously varied and rich

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому +1

      After playing earlier Atelier games, I’m totally ok with the way they implement time limits

  • @michaelculpepper717
    @michaelculpepper717 2 місяці тому

    This looks awesome!! Picking this up for sure

  • @MrDarksol
    @MrDarksol 5 місяців тому +5

    All I'm gonna say is this was a very very fun showcase to watch with my friend yesterday and we are both very very stoked about this game now even more so than originally intended. Combat is completely a huge evolution over everything this team has done, The game's plot already screams interesting and entertaining and the fact that everyone can use all of these different archetypes and not be restricted to just the one archtypes that they have but the main character can use all of them really makes me go you see persona 3 through 5 this is how you do it. I am very excited for this game even more so now and while it's most likely gonna be $70 it's definitely worth the pricing this time. I'll watch the vod later on but great job Alex and nice surprise B day gift🎉🎉🎉🎉.

    • @john_7000
      @john_7000 4 місяці тому

      Wait what because all the team use archetype compare to persona where just the main character use multiple persona now this is better, first I am sure archetype is different then persona, and it not bad that only main character in persona that use multiple personas I actually loved it cuz I love for the main character to be unique, but for this game those archetypes are basically like job system so it makes sense for everyone to have multiple of them.

    • @MrDarksol
      @MrDarksol 4 місяці тому

      @@john_7000 I'm just happy that at least for once we're done with the let's have the main character of all the personas or whatever just to prove that they're special but everybody else only has the one meaning the customizability from persona 1 and 2 is completely gone.

  • @JuliaSin
    @JuliaSin 5 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for putting this video out! I was on the fence but I might get it now :)

  • @Yae_1995
    @Yae_1995 5 місяців тому +2

    I’m loving the real time - turn based hybrid battle system. It’s an Atlus game so you know we’re gonna get a full package with this game. I can only imagine the final boss theme song.

  • @YokedDrunkard
    @YokedDrunkard 5 місяців тому +1

    Atlas is so incredible when it comes to UI, other companies should really study them lol

  • @Dazza768
    @Dazza768 5 місяців тому +1

    I can’t wait for this game. The combat looks very fun and well designed. I hope the time element of this game isn’t strict. Being timed out of quests Isn’t my favourite game mechanic.

  • @Rain-sr9pp
    @Rain-sr9pp 5 місяців тому +1

    I was already hyped for this game but your breakdown got me even more hyped! I like they are adding in the ability to take out weaker enemies in an EarthBound'esque way.

  • @Terron29
    @Terron29 5 місяців тому +1

    This looks fantastic and quite unique. Looking forward to this.

  • @NamelessEmiya
    @NamelessEmiya 3 місяці тому

    Its nice to see the kiseki style of gameplay is breaking ground into other games because Active turnbased combat has the potential to be a big game changer

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  3 місяці тому

      Funny enough, Dragon Age Inquisition actually introduced that 10 years ago!

  • @AstreaGT
    @AstreaGT 5 місяців тому +12

    Atlas is killing it with their UI choices.

    • @Estorium
      @Estorium 5 місяців тому +2

      And their super stylish yet clean presentation in general.

  • @MazinPaolo
    @MazinPaolo 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks Alex. Great analysis!

  • @vectordream121
    @vectordream121 5 місяців тому +1

    Man this game looks amazing! I love what I see. Can’t wait. Thanks Alex for the in depth analysis!

  • @femtrooper
    @femtrooper 5 місяців тому

    100% a game I’m keeping my eye on. Not sure if it’s one I’ll get right away but I’m definitely keeping it on my watch and want lists!

  • @HansAlRachid
    @HansAlRachid 2 місяці тому

    Looking forward to this quite a lot, been following the development of this game for ages now, ever since its anicent, orignal announcement - I really hope they get the difficulty right! Persona 3 Reload, while gorgeous, realls disappointed me in how much easier than the original they made it. I need some challenge to really get into a game these days and I'm absolutely down for some Atlus quality.

  • @RMarr-uy9hf
    @RMarr-uy9hf 5 місяців тому

    One of the best showcase in a while. Little BS, no overselling, if you like what they showed you'd probably get that in the game 👍

  • @_J_G_
    @_J_G_ 5 місяців тому

    all in for this game since it's been shown. I think Atlus implemented the melee combat and turn based-ish hybrid with Persona 5 Strikers. For Metaphor, it seems like they decided to make the player commit to turn based when they do choose to do so, instead of being able to flip back to melee like P5S. SO HYPED for this game! Thanks for this breakdown!

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому +2

      Strikers is a bit different in that you can indeed pause the action to activate Skills, but it drops you back to real-time combat. Both Metaphor and Trails through Daybreak have clear distinctions as to when you're in action and turn-based mode, with Metaphor putting more emphasis on how much of your party participates during combat.

    • @_J_G_
      @_J_G_ 5 місяців тому

      @BacklogBattle yeah for sure, that's why I said turn based-ish lol.

  • @HybridAngelZero
    @HybridAngelZero 5 місяців тому

    Man, I am in love with the style, character designs and being able to jump from action to turn-based combat, but I won't lie, I'm a smidge disappointed that we're still doing calenders with time passage, social link-alikes and similarly-named spells. I don't hate any of these mechanics per se, but I won't lie, I was hoping it would be a little more divorced from the Persona series.
    But those are just expectations I made up in my head. I'm not the game designers, so all I can do is eagerly wait to see how these mechanics are implemented!

  • @murruelaflaga
    @murruelaflaga 5 місяців тому

    I didn't even know this game was a thing but I'm definitely interested in it. Looks pretty good.

  • @coffeelocks
    @coffeelocks 5 місяців тому

    Holy cow this game looks amazing. Hope I can still get in on a collectors edition. First game in a while I'm willing to plunk down 200 bucks for.

  • @Kerunou
    @Kerunou 5 місяців тому +7

    I’m really, really glad it doesn’t have romance options. It’s a different game, people, a new IP. There are artistic and thematic elements typical of Atlus, sure, but not every game needs to have everything from other games. Let it be its own thing. Go and play a game that has those options for you, this one doesn’t need it.

    • @john_7000
      @john_7000 4 місяці тому +1

      Eaxctly!! Tho I still love romance options in games, but it seems metaphor it going for something different specially consider the protagonist is not fully self insert he will have his own character, i still think he still silent protagonist but he will speak more then persona protagonists, even tho I love persona protagonists and I love silent protagonist and idc what anyone says

  • @hausu3163
    @hausu3163 4 місяці тому +1

    hi alex, out of context but are you gonna check out Saga emerald from square?

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  4 місяці тому +1

      I want to, but I have to be in the mood to play it!

  • @JesseDylanMusic
    @JesseDylanMusic 5 місяців тому

    Been looking forward to this for ages. But now I’m questioning whether I want to buy and play it day 1… as usual… or wait for the inevitable enhanced version that I usually skip. My life isn’t long enough to play these things twice!

  • @Alpheus_09C
    @Alpheus_09C 2 місяці тому

    Playing theough daybreak, i was like. "This is unique not a lot of games have this sort of battle system. Then i get a game with a similar battle system by atlus. Yeah no im super happy

  • @blackfistxu7953
    @blackfistxu7953 5 місяців тому

    I’m going to dig into this. It reminds me of the Fairy Tale anime.

  • @Yae_1995
    @Yae_1995 5 місяців тому

    So there is no press turn system like SMT where you’re rewarded with another turn for striking enemies weaknesses? I guess the incentive could be more damage dealt, but I loved the “1 more” system of persona/SMT.

    • @Estorium
      @Estorium 5 місяців тому

      I wish every turn-based RPG had that "1 more" mechanic. It really adds a lot to the gameplay and strategy.

    • @Kerunou
      @Kerunou 5 місяців тому

      I’m glad it doesn’t have that. Those games have that, I don’t need it in this one.

    • @Yae_1995
      @Yae_1995 3 місяці тому

      @@Kerunou it’s confirmed now, the press turn system from SMT is back

  • @elahem6940
    @elahem6940 5 місяців тому

    So it sounds like the Archetype system is much closer to a traditional job system than personas.

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому

      Someone said that each Archetype has its own tree and that’s false. The Archetype tree displays all of the unlocked archetypes. So far, the system is very much like Persona - from the stats, skill strengths and weaknesses, right down to how the characters invoke them in some fashion. Fusion is also possible with this new system.

  • @theoaremevano3227
    @theoaremevano3227 5 місяців тому

    All platform Persona, but with extra smacking-people-in-the-face, huh? I wonder if they'll do a demo of it. I'd like to see if I vibe with the characters and other gameplay elements, but I could possibly see myself wanting to play this. Fair amount of Scarlet Nexus vibes from it (in fact, at one point when looking at the timeline I thought you were showing a SN clip for comparison). Hope more RPGs try their hand at incorporating action or making more action-inclusive spinoffs.

    • @Makuro_XIII
      @Makuro_XIII 4 місяці тому

      It seems there will be a demo of the game at ATLUS Fest Event, Early June! Hopefully, it will be released for the public as well 🤞.
      If you are interested in such hybrid battle system, you should have a look at Kuro no Kiseki (Trails through Daybreak) 😀.

  • @shubhpatel619
    @shubhpatel619 5 місяців тому +2

    God its gonna be really hard to pick between this and daybreak especially since i havent even started cold steel

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому +1

      They're at least separated by a couple or so months!

    • @murruelaflaga
      @murruelaflaga 5 місяців тому

      I think I'll be getting both. Probably not when they come out but sometime down the line. Have a lot of Trails games to get through before I get to Daybreak so that can wait a while.

  • @sepulchral.
    @sepulchral. 5 місяців тому +1

    Doesn't seem like you can pre-order on Amazon just yet?

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому +1

      Weird! They said it should be available for preorder!

    • @sepulchral.
      @sepulchral. 5 місяців тому +1

      @@BacklogBattle At least on Amazon** I'll edit my first post.

  • @ThatGuyYesHim
    @ThatGuyYesHim 5 місяців тому

    I’m wondering if can you play the whole game in pure action combat, and never have to enter a turn based battle but bosses are probably gonna be 100% tuner based combat tho😊

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому

      It would be interesting to see if they’d allow that! But I have a feeling that they’d recommend them to be turn based

    • @ThatGuyYesHim
      @ThatGuyYesHim 5 місяців тому

      @@BacklogBattle I was thinking after you hit the higher lvl enemies a bunch of times the squad button shows up and u transition to turn based, what if you just let the squad button fade away

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому

      I think the Squad button never leaves?

    • @ThatGuyYesHim
      @ThatGuyYesHim 5 місяців тому

      @@BacklogBattle maybe looking back the footage It does like a slow-mo and it starts to fade out so I’m thinking you could like fail it, but we haven’t seen a full clip of it so I guess we won’t know till the games comes out, it would kinda be lame if you couldn’t fail it, it would go against their “fast-paced” motif edit: I went back and checked it didn’t fade out but i still think you could fail it would be hella awkward if the game just paused and stood at the squad screen

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому

      @@ThatGuyYesHim so the fade out is part of the trailer and not the game. Also, the slowdown is me slowing the footage down so you can see the player engage the Manjula in action combat. That whole scene plays in full speed just a few seconds before

  • @Tenebris8444
    @Tenebris8444 5 місяців тому +1

    archetypes are just personas and magatama combined

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому

      *points at Chapter Markers*

    • @ghoulishgoober3122
      @ghoulishgoober3122 4 місяці тому

      Personas are also just a combination of demons and magatama

  • @MidnightBlackandVictoria
    @MidnightBlackandVictoria Місяць тому

    I always thought SquareEnix would be the ones to perfectly marry turn based/real time combat to cover all preferences. But Atlus has just smashed them and climbed on the JRPG throne in the last decade. And while Square keeps losing customers for opting to try and please the more mainstream action fans while throwing traditional fans under the bus, Atlus has pulled off what they SHOULD have done with the Final Fantasy series.

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  Місяць тому

      Square Enix is more than just Final Fantasy, and I'd argue that they've actually done a lot for traditional fans over the years while still trying out new things. Games like Octopath Traveler II, the LIVE A LIVE remake, a return to the Mana series with Visions of Mana, classic turn-based games in the Voice of Cards series, as well as the fantastic Tactics Ogre Reborn and Triangle Strategy prove the opposite of what you're saying. The trouble is that if it's not Final Fantasy, so called fans just ignore it. I've seen thousands of excuses of Final Fantasy this, Final Fantasy that. But when you mention any of the things I mentioned, they're like, "What?"
      Sure, the innovations that Metaphor ReFantazio introduce could've been something Square Enix came up with. But let's not be delusional and say that Atlus *invented* this style of gameplay. Trails through Daybreak was the first JRPG that featured this blend of real-time action and turn-based combat. And even then, it wasn't the first game to have introduced this type of combat - that would go to Dragon Age: Inquisition - a Western game from 2014.

    • @MidnightBlackandVictoria
      @MidnightBlackandVictoria Місяць тому

      @@BacklogBattle I referred to FF because they ruined it pushing into a new genre and throwing away traditional fans. I know they are much more. Hell, I was around to pre-order FF2 (4) and Chrono trigger when they released from stores like EB, so its fair to say I am a longtime fan. But they have dropped the ball in recent years. Octopath Traveler had about as compelling a story as a wet mop, and it seems that HD 2 D is about as much a budget as they are willing to invest in classic turn based rpgs, while going full action with not only their flagship title but other series, like Valkyrie Profiles recent sequel (which also bombed and was also a genre swap). And they PLAN to do the same thing for the upcoming DQ.
      And I am far from the only traditional fan whos let down by their changed perspectives on making titles, though most of the original staff have long since moved on and the young blood seeks to reforge classic series rather than staying true to what came before.
      And that is why Atlus is leaving them in the dust. Despite their marketing excuses to the contrary. And why they havent had an instant classic mega-hit since FF10. They have had some success (Octopath did sell well) but NOTHING even close. And why you still see people online chatting about the older games and playing those, while FF16 is already forgotten and passed over.

  • @jesterzubrata
    @jesterzubrata 4 місяці тому

    Atleast no more school stuff to dealt with

  • @dgayle2348
    @dgayle2348 5 місяців тому

    It looks good but i was hoping they would do something a little more different than the Persona/SMT recipe. This looks like it should just be Persona 0.

    • @JesseDylanMusic
      @JesseDylanMusic 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah this is kinda P6. The actual P6 isn’t even made by the main persona peeps-they left to make this!

    • @dgayle2348
      @dgayle2348 5 місяців тому

      @JesseDylanMusic : wait they left?? Why?

    • @JesseDylanMusic
      @JesseDylanMusic 5 місяців тому

      @@dgayle2348 they formed a new studio to make this game! They’re still at Atlus. But as far as I know they had nothing to do with P3 Reload, etc, and I don’t think they’ve done any work on P6 or smt v.

  • @Snzn_7
    @Snzn_7 5 місяців тому

    Kinda a bummer as it seems to implies you can only use the mc for action battle and can't swap to other characters while in the overworld. Since you only call party members when engaging in turnbase combat

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому

      I considered that, but this is version 1.0 of this system, and there’s A LOT of deep stuff under the hood in terms of damage calculation that they probably want to get right before allowing something like that!

  • @andry6164
    @andry6164 5 місяців тому

    This game is all I want but they really need to remove the time limit to the mission.

  • @topgamer101
    @topgamer101 5 місяців тому

    The entire thing is giving me disgusting AI art vibes and it's making it not looking good because of that. Even if it's not actually that, the aesthetic giving me that vibe really isn't making me interested in this title at all. Whatever minor interest I might have had is now gone.

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому

      Is it the overall look or something specific about it?

    • @JesseDylanMusic
      @JesseDylanMusic 5 місяців тому

      It’s the same designer as like every persona and every smt, isn’t it?

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому +1

      @@JesseDylanMusic yes

    • @JesseDylanMusic
      @JesseDylanMusic 5 місяців тому

      @@BacklogBattle I like the art style. Very flowy and appropriately fantastical. Some of the characters in particular are really neat. It seems like people get all nervous if a game isn’t super anime anymore.

    • @Kerunou
      @Kerunou 5 місяців тому +1

      There’s zero AI here. Thankfully.
      Sorry you’re getting that impression but I wouldn’t let it destroy the experience since it’s wholly irrational and not rooted in reality. Obviously, if you can’t get over it, you can’t get over it. Just seems like an unfortunate hill to die on.
      I also wouldn’t look at SMT or Persona if I were you either. Those games feature the same design sensibilities and stylistic choices found here, so they’ll probably gross you out. Even though, again, no A.I involved. I think you probably just don’t like the style, even though it’s rooted in designs that are 25 to 30 years old at this point.

  • @TheOneBored
    @TheOneBored 5 місяців тому

    Dang, calendar system tends to be such a game killer for me....persona 5 constantly sticking me in cutscene/"you should probably sleep" for extended periods when reaching set dates was so frustrating i never finished the game. Maybe gets better further in, i just didnt have the patience to get there

    • @BacklogBattle
      @BacklogBattle  5 місяців тому

      Have you tried P3Reload or Persona 4? It’s less that than anything!

    • @TheOneBored
      @TheOneBored 5 місяців тому

      @BacklogBattle not yet, i just assumed they had the same issue
      I thought 5 was a great game, just those parts were a problem for me

    • @ghoulishgoober3122
      @ghoulishgoober3122 4 місяці тому

      ​@@TheOneBored persona 5 is definitely the most egregious. Persona 4 is also pretty bad but 3, at least 3r is pretty quick with it. I'd highly recommend checking out 3