Thanks! Yes the Akrapovic full exhaust is quieter, lighter, and the muffler is shorter and comes with a spark arrester too...and the 350XCF runs strong with the Akrapovic exhaust. It is expensive for the full system but slip on is similar in performance and cheaper.
Thanks for all the videos. I’m debating on a 25 350 xcf or a 24.5 factory edition. Or maybe waiting for the 2025 factory edition. From your experience what are your thoughts?
I have a 24.5 KTM 450 Factory Edition along with my newest bike the 25 350XCF. With the CUO it is easy to dial back or dial up the engine response. If you ride more moto and are fast perhaps the 450FE is a better bike. If you like to do a light moto and more off road riding the 350XCF might be a better choice. I would have bought a '25 350XCF Factory Edition if it was available but I did not want to wait as KTM usually announces that bike in late September at the Ironman GNCC race. I really like the overall balance of Power/Weight/Handling in the latest KTM/Husky/Gas Gas 350 models. Here is a quick back to back ride on the 450FE and 350XCF... ua-cam.com/video/x7aT09zbyzg/v-deo.html
@@mxengineer1thanks for the quick reply. Most of my riding is single track racing in Texas and in the Rocky mountains 2020 300 XCW. I’m looking for light moto to stay in shape and Texas hare scramble racing. I think I’ll wait for the 2025 factory edition. Thanks again!
have you ever ridden a 450 xcf in the woods? what did you think of it? thinking about switching to a 450 xcf from my 2018 ktm 350 xcf to get a little more torque and power down low
My 450 Factory Edition is essentially the same as a 450XCF (in 25 model year the 450XCF finally comes with a 6-speed transmission) since I put spring forks and dial in a more off road setting on the rear shock. I think the 450 engine with a little lower compression and single overhead cam runs a bit smoother at low rpm compared to the 350 engine. There is more torque available on the 450 (even when the engine is dialed back with the Connectivity Unit Offroad). I still give the edge in overall balance of Power/Weight/Handling to the 350. However some riders prefer that effortless any rpm/any gear torque of a 450F. Here is a back to back on a short woods loop... ua-cam.com/video/T-hSALJQm18/v-deo.html
@@mxengineer1 suspension is setup to my weight on the2018 ktm 350xcf I own that runs great. front and rear done with MX Lucky tech spring conversion. just wondering if the 450 power would be a little more fun and allow me to ride a bit lazier with less shifting and have power at will to lift the front end off the ground to jump the occasional log in on the trail
@@jimmycrowell8854 You will trade some 350 agility for 450 torque though the 24/25 350XCF engines have more low to mid power compared to the 2018 350XCF.
Somehow after 50 years of riding I have become an old man of 67 and I only ride dual sports nowadays. I was going to get a KTM 500 EXC-F and after talking to a few folks got a 350 instead mapped like the XC-F. With riding gear I am at least 270 to 275 lbs and my little orange pumpkin has never failed me climbing rocky hill climbs. I’m amazed the power this pea shooter has. I do cheat and it has a Rekluse in it. Love my 350 but wouldn’t mine trying a 500 sometime before I croke.
Great you are still out riding and enjoying dirt bikes! 350's are such a great combination of Power/Weight/Handling in a 4-stroke dirt bike. And the latest Austrian 450's can be tuned with the Connectivity Unit Offroad to be barky or super smooth (350F like) so it is like having multiple bikes depending on how you have it set. Minimized engine braking is very cool and frees up the bike and makes it feel lighter in motion too. Nice to have choices!
I like having different parts (like wheels) on the bikes - more things to consider when riding them back to back and feeling the different characteristics. The KTM 450XCF does come with the 18" rear wheel.
@@Joe-pb3lx Yes the XC (cross country) models all have 18" rear wheels and for 2025 model year the 450XCF now has a 6-speed transmission (the 250XCF/350XCF have always had the 6-speed transmission compared to 5-speed in the motocross versions)
@@johndunn9819 I've long been a 350 fan as I really like the combination of Power/Weight/Handling. However with the factories focusing so much effort on their flagship 450's and the latest KTM 450 Factory Edition with the CUO where you can dial back engine braking and dial up or dial back the power character...has 60hp ever been to easy and fun to ride?😎
great video. Is the exhaust quieter with the Akropovic system? Thanks
Thanks! Yes the Akrapovic full exhaust is quieter, lighter, and the muffler is shorter and comes with a spark arrester too...and the 350XCF runs strong with the Akrapovic exhaust. It is expensive for the full system but slip on is similar in performance and cheaper.
great back to back!! looking forward to the CUO test on the 350, see how much bandwidth the new 350 has with the tuner!!
Me too!
Thanks for all the videos. I’m debating on a 25 350 xcf or a 24.5 factory edition. Or maybe waiting for the 2025 factory edition. From your experience what are your thoughts?
I have a 24.5 KTM 450 Factory Edition along with my newest bike the 25 350XCF. With the CUO it is easy to dial back or dial up the engine response. If you ride more moto and are fast perhaps the 450FE is a better bike. If you like to do a light moto and more off road riding the 350XCF might be a better choice. I would have bought a '25 350XCF Factory Edition if it was available but I did not want to wait as KTM usually announces that bike in late September at the Ironman GNCC race. I really like the overall balance of Power/Weight/Handling in the latest KTM/Husky/Gas Gas 350 models. Here is a quick back to back ride on the 450FE and 350XCF... ua-cam.com/video/x7aT09zbyzg/v-deo.html
@@mxengineer1thanks for the quick reply. Most of my riding is single track racing in Texas and in the Rocky mountains 2020 300 XCW. I’m looking for light moto to stay in shape and Texas hare scramble racing. I think I’ll wait for the 2025 factory edition. Thanks again!
@@huntergable9029 Sounds like a great plan! I am also waiting for a '25 350 Factory Edition!
350 vs 450, which of the 2 motorcycles do you perceive has more front end feel traction?
I give the slight edge to the 450FE - perhaps that extra engine inertia loads the front a little more?
@@mxengineer1 thank you for your answer.
have you ever ridden a 450 xcf in the woods? what did you think of it? thinking about switching to a 450 xcf from my 2018 ktm 350 xcf to get a little more torque and power down low
My 450 Factory Edition is essentially the same as a 450XCF (in 25 model year the 450XCF finally comes with a 6-speed transmission) since I put spring forks and dial in a more off road setting on the rear shock. I think the 450 engine with a little lower compression and single overhead cam runs a bit smoother at low rpm compared to the 350 engine. There is more torque available on the 450 (even when the engine is dialed back with the Connectivity Unit Offroad). I still give the edge in overall balance of Power/Weight/Handling to the 350. However some riders prefer that effortless any rpm/any gear torque of a 450F. Here is a back to back on a short woods loop... ua-cam.com/video/T-hSALJQm18/v-deo.html
@@mxengineer1 thanks for the reply how much LBS? are you in comparison im 210 without gear
@@jimmycrowell8854 I'm 190 without gear. At 210 you may need to go up 1-step on the rear shock spring (stock is 4.5kg/mm so a 4.8 is next step).
@@mxengineer1 suspension is setup to my weight on the2018 ktm 350xcf I own that runs great. front and rear done with MX Lucky tech spring conversion. just wondering if the 450 power would be a little more fun and allow me to ride a bit lazier with less shifting and have power at will to lift the front end off the ground to jump the occasional log in on the trail
@@jimmycrowell8854 You will trade some 350 agility for 450 torque though the 24/25 350XCF engines have more low to mid power compared to the 2018 350XCF.
Somehow after 50 years of riding I have become an old man of 67 and I only ride dual sports nowadays. I was going to get a KTM 500 EXC-F and after talking to a few folks got a 350 instead mapped like the XC-F. With riding gear I am at least 270 to 275 lbs and my little orange pumpkin has never failed me climbing rocky hill climbs. I’m amazed the power this pea shooter has. I do cheat and it has a Rekluse in it. Love my 350 but wouldn’t mine trying a 500 sometime before I croke.
Great you are still out riding and enjoying dirt bikes! 350's are such a great combination of Power/Weight/Handling in a 4-stroke dirt bike. And the latest Austrian 450's can be tuned with the Connectivity Unit Offroad to be barky or super smooth (350F like) so it is like having multiple bikes depending on how you have it set. Minimized engine braking is very cool and frees up the bike and makes it feel lighter in motion too. Nice to have choices!
put the 19 inch rear wheel on the 350 and the 18 inch rear wheel on the 450?
I like having different parts (like wheels) on the bikes - more things to consider when riding them back to back and feeling the different characteristics. The KTM 450XCF does come with the 18" rear wheel.
@@mxengineer1 ....18 inch on the 450? i didnt know
@@Joe-pb3lx Yes the XC (cross country) models all have 18" rear wheels and for 2025 model year the 450XCF now has a 6-speed transmission (the 250XCF/350XCF have always had the 6-speed transmission compared to 5-speed in the motocross versions)
Nope
But they're almost as good 👍👍👍
Nice to have choices!
@@mxengineer1 indeed. I'm just kidding. I've recently got a KTM 450sxf factory edition and I can't imagine a finer bike... But maybe 🤔
@@johndunn9819 I've long been a 350 fan as I really like the combination of Power/Weight/Handling. However with the factories focusing so much effort on their flagship 450's and the latest KTM 450 Factory Edition with the CUO where you can dial back engine braking and dial up or dial back the power character...has 60hp ever been to easy and fun to ride?😎