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Picked this up day one on kickstarter, awesome system. Was wondering what fonts you chose for the subject line and body throughout this wonderous tome!
Chaos Magic is so fun. I ran a Maze Rats game and one player used Encoding Sphere to record an entire library full of books onto a silver ball, to be sold later to the Scholars Guild.
For my money, Peter Mullen is the true spiritual successor to Erol Otus's D&D/AD&D art. I'm glad I got my KS bundle. Great job fulfilling orders and good communication throughout!
My hardcover arrived in the mail last week. It’s a very nice book, I love how compact and easy to use it is. Truly embodies the mantra “All killer no filler.”
@@Jimalcoatl I guess the short version is that I like to just pick a package and have done with it, but I like more distinct capabilities than Knave's item-based approach (which I'll grant is pretty cool from a design standpoint). I don't like point-buy systems either, or the many many feats of 3e/PF.
I love classless but an easy hack would be like, letting a class get some free slots for specific class items. Fighter can carry extra weapons, Wizard extra spell books, and thief extra adventuring gear. Honestly when I run this eventually I might do that and make an "Adventurer" class be the base RAW character. Just add a small downside to the classes as well.
I love this book. One of the few kickstarters I really wanted to support. I already used the NPC generater in my game to give my 2 players some assistance in a hard dungeon crawl. Not only did they love the names for the charcters we had whole unplanned session just getting to know them and solving their miniscule problems between each other on a short trip to the dunegon. One of hopefully many sessions enhanced by this book. :)
Ben, I can’t put your book down. I’m in the middle of writing (and hopefully some day publishing) my first adventure zine and Knave 2E could not have come out at a better time. It’s been extremely helpful. Thank you!
Mine just arrived the other day, and I’m already toting it around and showing all my friends like a five-year-old with her new Christmas present! Mullen’s line art is GORGEOUS and a fantastic addition- I’m really looking forward to having it at table, and seeing how it runs 💜
absolutely love this game. i have a whole campaign I'm running right now that's almost entirely randomly generated using this book, the majority of which i've done on the fly, and the systems in place to improvise at the table have held up tremendously well. thanks so much Ben for making such a great game.
Fantastic book, I couldn't be happier with my purchase. I especially like your Designer's Commentary. It feels supportive of the community of independent creators, which is cool. Plus there are a couple of books on there I haven't read yet!
Been running a party of 4 through some OSR dungeons; first did "Tomb of the Serpent Kings" now we're playing Dyson's Delve. I love this rules set, and I use Necrotic Gnome's OSE SRD for reference too
I am a big fan of Peter Mullen's art. His gm screen for Old School Essentials is the best looking gm screen ever. I will use that no matter what game I am gming. The maps in the back look amazing as well!
Damn, this looks really good! I didn't realise before but I totally agree with that those tables (and atmosphere/inspiration those bring) can mean a lot more for a game than just mechanics
I absolutely love the art work for the Maze Rats and Summers End zines. May I ask who did the art work for those? Everything looks amazing, job well done Ben!
After reading through the book, I'm surprised by how great all the tables are and how much I like them. Makes a great tool for any rpg i might eant to run, even if it isn't necessary Knave.
I actually can't wait to buy this book this month. I'm pretty sold on this system.
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Hey, Ben! The book is exactly everything what I am looking for in roleplaying games. Simple rules and player choices determined by the world around them and items they carry. Before your system I looked at Shadowdark, Index Card RPG, Five Torches Deep, and many other. The reason why I discovered your system only now is that I missed the kickstarter and your video is (at least for me) a little bit hard to find. It doesn't contain the name of the game in the title, and moreover contains D&D - which is a thing I was desperately trying to find an alternative to. Maybe changing the title to ”Knave 2e: Every fantasy roleplaying trope in one book“ would help people like myself to find it more quickly. Anyways, thanks for the great overview, great system and your relentless dedication for our hobby.
I can't wait mash up this thing of beauty with our systems, EZD6 and other Runehammer books, and The Monster Overhaul, and Errant, and Cairn, and itchio solo games, and everything. Wrote like 4 books in my head while just watching this. I cannot remember being this excited for a book release, let alone for a second edition. Thank you for this and for being relentless communicator and reminder of what's good about this osr nsr fkr open indie small press alt scene.
Backed the Kickstarter. Love the game. I also have one of those rare Knave 1e printing that you had available a couple of years back and a Maze Rats self-print that is worn out from use. These new versions are so much nicer. 🙂 Thanks for a making a couple of great game, Ben. Cheers!
Mr. Milton, can you show us your insights about animals in the dungeon, particulary dogs and donkeys. In Brazil OSR scene, this sounds silly, but is a very debated scenario. Thanks!!
Beautiful and usable layout and beautiful art. That is one really attractive book and that's without even going into the contents. I'll be buying one for certain.
I was so excited when my book came in the mail! This is the system I am most excited to try running by far. Now to just convince my players to give it a try...
Good review QB. I picked up a copy of the feeeancy edition from the Swordfish Islands folks at North Texas RPG Con 2024 and am looking forward to using it. Bravo. -Ol' Man Grognard
hope my copy comes in soon - i got the shipping notification email a week ago but according to USPS the label was created but they still don't have the package
Man, I am dying to look at and review this! Sadly, I am going to have to save up for awhile, as you practically need to sell your firstborn to pay for shipping to Canada these days! Keep being awesome! - Brian from Welcome to the Deathtrap
Man I bought the pdf because I was Kickstarting too much and I was convinced I didn't need this physical.. now I'm so tempted to pick it up. Peter Mullens art is top notch
Those tables feels very inspiring! I wonder if any rpg would benefit from those, what may change could be when they are used, before the session for a classic story focused rpg or during the session for old school sand box one.
Congratulations, it looks simply beautiful and from what I've seen it's a must-own for anyone in the realms of d&d. I'm in the UK - is there any chance you'll have these in a store like Dungeonland over here? Shipping is pretty crazy. Even so, the pdf is well worth the money. ❤
It would be good for a video game or people coming from 5th ed. It definitely doesn't have an old school DnD style. Being simplistic doesn't even make it a good OSR rpg. The design and art are very good though. There are a few good ideas and other elements too.
I'm really impressed by the quality of the special edition. Of course the contents are what's important, but we know that's good. It's a beautiful book and you should be very proud of it!
I just bought the Knave 2e pdf, and I can already tell it's gonna get a lot of use. I did have one question, though. What exactly is the function of Armor Points? I get that extra armor improves your AC, but the character sheet has a separate box for AP. Does armor tank damage like in Cairn or Dungeon World? I can't seem to find the established rule in the book. I've also seen something about people using AP as added Hit Points, or substituting AC for Dex saves and using armor to tank damage. What was your original intent with this mechanic?
Armor points exist so that you can "reverse" combat rolls (see the combat page). You can roll plus your armor points to deflect incoming attacks if you want players to do all of the rolling in combat. If you don't plan on doing that though, you don't have to worry about armor points, and just use AC.
Love the book, very jaded by Jacob Hurst/Swordfish Isles. Real shame that he has been the public face of this project, the guy is not cut out for PR or customer service. Don’t care about the minor con drama, but his treatment of customers and his condescending language in every update have been very off-putting. Hope you work with a better publisher/store in the future like Exalted Funeral or Spear Witch.
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Picked this up day one on kickstarter, awesome system. Was wondering what fonts you chose for the subject line and body throughout this wonderous tome!
Is this game available in spanish or is it only in english?
Just came here to say I own everything you’ve released. Thank you!
Chaos Magic is so fun. I ran a Maze Rats game and one player used Encoding Sphere to record an entire library full of books onto a silver ball, to be sold later to the Scholars Guild.
I am irrationally excited by the Career system. I've always wanted to see that mechanic expanded in DnD and you did it!
For my money, Peter Mullen is the true spiritual successor to Erol Otus's D&D/AD&D art.
I'm glad I got my KS bundle. Great job fulfilling orders and good communication throughout!
If you want prime DnD art one only needs to see Larry Elmores attention to detail. Only Elmore knows how to paint spell componenets for wizards. ;)
Great review. You really raised the bar, Ben. Best of luck with Knave! -Professor DM
Thanks!
My hardcover arrived in the mail last week. It’s a very nice book, I love how compact and easy to use it is. Truly embodies the mantra “All killer no filler.”
I'm honestly not too big on classless systems, but like you said, these d100 tables look SUPER useful. I might grab a copy just for those!
There are some class hacks for Knave 1e out there that would likely work for 2e with little to no work.
As someone who isn't big on class systems, I'm curious as to why you prefer class systems over classless.
@@Jimalcoatl I guess the short version is that I like to just pick a package and have done with it, but I like more distinct capabilities than Knave's item-based approach (which I'll grant is pretty cool from a design standpoint). I don't like point-buy systems either, or the many many feats of 3e/PF.
I love classless but an easy hack would be like, letting a class get some free slots for specific class items. Fighter can carry extra weapons, Wizard extra spell books, and thief extra adventuring gear.
Honestly when I run this eventually I might do that and make an "Adventurer" class be the base RAW character. Just add a small downside to the classes as well.
@@adamjchafe Cool thought, sounds like a decent blend of the two designs.
Just ordered the Knave book and Summer's End zine. I want to use this in my 4th/5th grade D&D club at school. Hope all is well, Ben!
I don't have any experience running a game for that age group, but Knave seems like it would be really fun for them!
I love how the monster on page 60 looks more real than the delvers.
Those poor delvers are about to get a lot less real!
I have been honestly so bummed at missing the kickstarter. This made my day. Already ordered. Thank you for making rad things!
I love this book.
One of the few kickstarters I really wanted to support.
I already used the NPC generater in my game to give my 2 players some assistance in a hard dungeon crawl.
Not only did they love the names for the charcters we had whole unplanned session just getting to know them and solving their miniscule problems between each other on a short trip to the dunegon. One of hopefully many sessions enhanced by this book. :)
Ben, I can’t put your book down. I’m in the middle of writing (and hopefully some day publishing) my first adventure zine and Knave 2E could not have come out at a better time. It’s been extremely helpful. Thank you!
I look forward to buying this as soon as it becomes available in Europe!
I'm already putting my friends through a 3+ months campaign with a draft version. 😂 Really amazing, the tables are a banger!
Mine just arrived the other day, and I’m already toting it around and showing all my friends like a five-year-old with her new Christmas present! Mullen’s line art is GORGEOUS and a fantastic addition- I’m really looking forward to having it at table, and seeing how it runs 💜
absolutely love this game. i have a whole campaign I'm running right now that's almost entirely randomly generated using this book, the majority of which i've done on the fly, and the systems in place to improvise at the table have held up tremendously well. thanks so much Ben for making such a great game.
MY copy showed up yesterday - one pass through and I love it, looking forward to digging deeper and integrating into my existing campaign.
Just received my copy yesterday. Very happy with it, thanks Ben for creating this!!
The book arrived today, but I won’t be back home for a few days. Congratulations, Ben.
Fantastic book, I couldn't be happier with my purchase. I especially like your Designer's Commentary. It feels supportive of the community of independent creators, which is cool. Plus there are a couple of books on there I haven't read yet!
Been running a party of 4 through some OSR dungeons; first did "Tomb of the Serpent Kings" now we're playing Dyson's Delve. I love this rules set, and I use Necrotic Gnome's OSE SRD for reference too
I am a big fan of Peter Mullen's art. His gm screen for Old School Essentials is the best looking gm screen ever. I will use that no matter what game I am gming. The maps in the back look amazing as well!
My players love the OSE screen!
Looks fantastic!! I'm excited for my copy to arrive!!
Really cool book and great random tables.
Damn, this looks really good! I didn't realise before but I totally agree with that those tables (and atmosphere/inspiration those bring) can mean a lot more for a game than just mechanics
Between this preview, and my friend telling me about this... I am so regretting not backing this. The good news is it's for sale now! Thanks again!
I absolutely love the art work for the Maze Rats and Summers End zines. May I ask who did the art work for those? Everything looks amazing, job well done Ben!
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Congratulations Sir. All of your hard work and dedication paid. You've made a game you can be really proud of. I'm very happy for all of your success.
After reading through the book, I'm surprised by how great all the tables are and how much I like them. Makes a great tool for any rpg i might eant to run, even if it isn't necessary Knave.
I actually can't wait to buy this book this month. I'm pretty sold on this system.
Hey, Ben! The book is exactly everything what I am looking for in roleplaying games. Simple rules and player choices determined by the world around them and items they carry. Before your system I looked at Shadowdark, Index Card RPG, Five Torches Deep, and many other.
The reason why I discovered your system only now is that I missed the kickstarter and your video is (at least for me) a little bit hard to find. It doesn't contain the name of the game in the title, and moreover contains D&D - which is a thing I was desperately trying to find an alternative to. Maybe changing the title to ”Knave 2e: Every fantasy roleplaying trope in one book“ would help people like myself to find it more quickly.
Anyways, thanks for the great overview, great system and your relentless dedication for our hobby.
Cat & Candle was the name of a bookstore in my hometown where I bought my first D&D books.
Nobody does cool random tables like Ben! 👍🏼
I'm so excited to receive my copy! I plan to run some games with it, but those random tables will be great for any game!
I can't wait mash up this thing of beauty with our systems, EZD6 and other Runehammer books, and The Monster Overhaul, and Errant, and Cairn, and itchio solo games, and everything. Wrote like 4 books in my head while just watching this. I cannot remember being this excited for a book release, let alone for a second edition. Thank you for this and for being relentless communicator and reminder of what's good about this osr nsr fkr open indie small press alt scene.
My stuff should be here Monday and I can't wait!! Looking forward to see all the cool art, the tables, and the design notes...
Backed the Kickstarter. Love the game. I also have one of those rare Knave 1e printing that you had available a couple of years back and a Maze Rats self-print that is worn out from use. These new versions are so much nicer. 🙂
Thanks for a making a couple of great game, Ben.
Cheers!
I was gutted that I missed the Kickstarter and have been waiting for this update. I've just placed my order. Keep up the good work!
I JUST got my KS copy in the mail yesterday and I couldn't put it down! It's STACKED & PACKED!💪💪💪
Same here
Dying to get my mitts on this.
Appreciate the perspective and the work.
This is on my shelf next to my desk. Such a great little book! I'm using it as a toolkit, but the game itself is really great! Great job with this.
War dogs destroying and ravaging dungeons makes my day. Waiting for the video about dogs delving in dungeons, Mr. Ben. Brazil loves you.
Why is everyone suddenly asking about dogs in dungeons?
Mr. Milton, can you show us your insights about animals in the dungeon, particulary dogs and donkeys. In Brazil OSR scene, this sounds silly, but is a very debated scenario. Thanks!!
Beautiful and usable layout and beautiful art. That is one really attractive book and that's without even going into the contents. I'll be buying one for certain.
I loved it! Thanks for the tour of the book. Now I gotta get me one
very cool, too bad shipping to canada is so expensive maybe ill do the pdf, awesome stuff as usual Ben ty
Yeah, shipping can be a pain
Just got mine yesterday and I love it! The tables will certainly be put to use and I'd love to eventually try running a game.
Just got my book in this week! I'm going to run a one shot this weekend, but I hope to turn it into a campaign soon!
Been waiting a while for this. Very excited.
Wisdom for ranged attack checks? I don't get it, how?
Players should be asking questions!
The Catherine spell gave me a good chuckle
Looks fantastic, well done, just ordered a copy!
I don't play OSR but man, the quality of your stuff makes it tempting to buy anyway!
The random tables are useful for everyone!
Having just received my copy of the book a day or two ago, it was nice to go through it while watching this video
I was so excited when my book came in the mail! This is the system I am most excited to try running by far. Now to just convince my players to give it a try...
Good review QB. I picked up a copy of the feeeancy edition from the Swordfish Islands folks at North Texas RPG Con 2024 and am looking forward to using it. Bravo.
-Ol' Man Grognard
Knave 3rd edition should have some recomendations for Relics.
Love your work, already integrated this book to my D&D toolbox
Thanks for all your work on this, Ben! It will be a GM toolkit for the ages!
hope my copy comes in soon - i got the shipping notification email a week ago but according to USPS the label was created but they still don't have the package
Holy! Finally, I can get the new edition of my favorite TRPG rules!
Man, I am dying to look at and review this! Sadly, I am going to have to save up for awhile, as you practically need to sell your firstborn to pay for shipping to Canada these days!
Keep being awesome!
- Brian from Welcome to the Deathtrap
Man I bought the pdf because I was Kickstarting too much and I was convinced I didn't need this physical.. now I'm so tempted to pick it up. Peter Mullens art is top notch
Looks amazing, congrats!
Those tables feels very inspiring! I wonder if any rpg would benefit from those, what may change could be when they are used, before the session for a classic story focused rpg or during the session for old school sand box one.
The book arrives today. Can’t wait.
Super useful for us solo gamers. Even if I use another system like Swords & Wizardry or 5E
This is gorgeous. Missed out on the KS due to low funds, but might pick it up later on.
Got my copy yesterday. Thanks Ben!
I can't wait to get my copy! Very excited to play it.
Congratulations, it looks simply beautiful and from what I've seen it's a must-own for anyone in the realms of d&d. I'm in the UK - is there any chance you'll have these in a store like Dungeonland over here? Shipping is pretty crazy.
Even so, the pdf is well worth the money. ❤
Just got my copy in the mail. Book smells great!
Loved the book! Can't wait to start implementing it in my games.
Just got my copy! I read along with your review. I great piece of work.
My book came in the other day! Great stuff.
I hope my copies arrive soon... they apparently shipped over a week ago but I haven't seen them yet. :c
Someone posted this video on my Discord. SO MANY ROLL TABLES WAHHHHHHHHHH Must get now.
Incredible work! ^^
It would be good for a video game or people coming from 5th ed. It definitely doesn't have an old school DnD style. Being simplistic doesn't even make it a good OSR rpg. The design and art are very good though. There are a few good ideas and other elements too.
“Look, a donkeypine! Run!”
Still waiting for mine to arrive, looking forward to it.
Beautiful book, absolutely amazing
Will the print versions be available in the EU anytime soon? The shipping isn’t impossible, but is quite a lot ngl
I a wizard has, lets say 5 books with 5 spells in his backpack. Do they come in handy often enough? The seem to be rather specific to me.
I'm really impressed by the quality of the special edition. Of course the contents are what's important, but we know that's good. It's a beautiful book and you should be very proud of it!
mine just arrived, love it!
Impressive. Thanks.
My copy coming Monday!!!
What? Torches never burn out! ;)
I just bought the Knave 2e pdf, and I can already tell it's gonna get a lot of use. I did have one question, though.
What exactly is the function of Armor Points? I get that extra armor improves your AC, but the character sheet has a separate box for AP. Does armor tank damage like in Cairn or Dungeon World? I can't seem to find the established rule in the book. I've also seen something about people using AP as added Hit Points, or substituting AC for Dex saves and using armor to tank damage. What was your original intent with this mechanic?
Armor points exist so that you can "reverse" combat rolls (see the combat page). You can roll plus your armor points to deflect incoming attacks if you want players to do all of the rolling in combat. If you don't plan on doing that though, you don't have to worry about armor points, and just use AC.
Love the book, very jaded by Jacob Hurst/Swordfish Isles. Real shame that he has been the public face of this project, the guy is not cut out for PR or customer service. Don’t care about the minor con drama, but his treatment of customers and his condescending language in every update have been very off-putting. Hope you work with a better publisher/store in the future like Exalted Funeral or Spear Witch.
Would it be possible to have all of these tables in digital form where you could generate things with a push of a button?
This looks amazing
Nice work on the book! Just ordered a copy. I'm a sucker for random tables. ;)
If I buy the physical copy does it also come with a link to a pdf copy or are they sold separately?
Looks really cool
Is that the same artist from Dungeon Crawl Classics?
My book arrived at my house yesterday, but I'm working out-of-town over 4 hours away. ... so, still waiting 😢
Is it on sale anywhere in EU?
I love random tables.