My favorite professor, a fine Christian man, had an office like Bishop Tom's...I took Literary Criticism (which is really a philosophy course) under him in undergrad school, rumored to be most difficult course in the English department. Dr. Vincent was exacting, but also unflinchingly gentle and kind. Getting an "A" in that course was my proudest moment. He kept one of my papers to assist him in teaching future classes.
As always - appreciate you Justin - and especially your wife being part of this - as a Christian currently attending a BAPTIST CHURCH that does not allow women as pastor - (but allow different viewpoints ) - I personally fully support and celebrate your place and your wife's ministry (because my church allows non-essential disagreement) in God's platform... GO!!!!
Fascinating, watching this in December 2020, and hearing people back in June talking about being overwhelmed by being cooped up. You have no idea what’s ahead….
Dr. Wright my name is Nick and I’ve been introduced to you through my friend Butch Frey, who has been a longtime friend and also a mentor/counselor to me. Specifically he has been working with me on the concept of the unpardonable sin. Recently I’ve had intense fears about this subject and worried about possibly having done it when I was younger. I’m not worried as much about the unpardonable sin as taught by Jesus in the gospels when he was speaking to the Pharisees, as I am about the passages in Hebrews 6, 10, and 12. Lł
I’m having a major mental roadblock in embracing the answer to this question you gave on podcast #94 - which was, if you’re worried about it, you haven’t done it. I went through a short spell of fear of this during high school and that brief answer offered me hope then because I really wanted to serve the Lord and there was some trite joke I had made that triggered that original fear. But this one - now that I’ve been more trained and was dealing with what it means to surrender my whole life to God - this fear that started up since college based upon Hebrews 10:26-29 about “sinning willfully”’. I was struggling at the time with my college major.
Sorry - I was saying I was struggling with my major selection for college and I was concerned that God wantsd me to change it against my wishes. I loved the Lord and I had accepted Him long before. I never aspired to running out on God or backsliding, although I did struggle with some of these tough requests. During that intense soul searching time of my life I first became acquainted with the Hebrews 6 and 10 passages. I got scared because I thought by me wrestling with God’s will, what if He took that to mean I was sinning on purpose or deliberately and thereby committing what that passage was saying, as in “insulting the Spirit of grace”? I was in no way shape or form trying or wanting to do such a thing. Since that concern/topic resurfaced in 2020, it’s been 2 years that I’ve been unbelievably agonized with fear and anxiety that I may have committed it…it’s so bad, Dr. Wright, that every day I wake up afraid and grab my head and neck. My lymph nodes in my neck are swollen and my neck feels tight a lot. They are constant reminders of what I’m afraid of, so even when I try to recite the promises of God that He will never leave nor forsake me, or that He knows me and is compassionate toward me and that His mercies are new every morning, I struggle to believe it for myself. I feel like I can’t get back to peace and believe and rest in the Lord. I don’t know if this is what they call neurotic but it is AWFUL Dr. Wright. I feel like I’m dying. My head hurts a lot too. I feel desperate and I’m struggling to find that place of rest. Can you help me Dr. Wright? I need help untangling some of the twisted theology I’ve gotten over the years so I can see Jesus for Who He really is and get out of this pit of despair.
It’s not hoarding, it’s a good way to overcome ignorance. A friend who is an avid reader laments the fact that the number of books he can read is limited as he gets older.
I am a new listener from Oklahoma United States. Is there an update from John that was on a previous podcast with Sr. Sean McDowell. I have had him on my heart. Thank you.
I would like to ask Bishop Wright if he would wright a book I cannot because of health? Given the "Me" centeredness of the modern American church, there needs to a corrective. Romans 8:28 is the most misquoted verse in the NT making into our servant rather than us being His.
Its just literature. He is simply a well read man. Whether what he is reading about is true or real is debatable. i bet Graham Hancock has an equally impressively stocked study.
So sorry I missed this. Needing help -What is dualism and is it biblical? It seems that there are two Christian camps on this issue. One thinks the other is progressive and not Christian at all. I’m getting comments that I’m not a True believer. Ouch that hurts. I’m guessing that the ancient world view was dualistic, but does that mean that Jesus had that view also? Or did he revolutionize and change our world view? I do So want to follow Jesus. But this philosophy stuff boggles my little mind.
Yes you know your church is in good hands when your hijab wearing "bishop" is less worried about preaching the word and administering the sacraments, but rather writing guidelines about the type of pen you can sign a wedding license with.
i wish i was online with you at the right time. Please if this works out, I hope professor right sees this question I would love to hear his answer on this. 2 things. 1. it looks to me like the world has an opportunity to be united, globally, in 1 topic (specifically covid), for the first time in history, united in ways we have never been able to (thanks to technology etc). That is a first, as far as i can tell at this magnitude, and given that covid is a health, global threat, couldn't we as the people of God take advantage at the fact that the entire world is looking and listening? 2. can the church use this pandemic as means to instill some much needed change in the education system, especially within the body of Christ? Discipleship is almost entirely missing in the west, (especially north american west) there is a huge gap in knowledge between most and education (even theology as a topic) has become only for the "elite" or those "called", and even the church structure itself is so far from 1st century examples that it is almost incomparable. Could we use all this to restructure the church to a more biblical perspective, where ephesians 5:11-16 or acts 2:42 still exist?
Because of much of the church's devotion to the doctrine of income tithing, the church will reject any changes that challenge their ability to profit from the money that is present in the public education system. Soooo many female public education teachers around the world. The poor church won't rock that boat. So strange that a faith that pretends to be about family undermines the family by A) expecting women to give of their tithes directly to the church (not to her husband) and B) expects tithes that grow hand in hand with the degree of materialism present in the culture - as it affects the level of income in a family. Were tithes based on possessions / wealth instead of income, stewardship might actually be a true focus of the church. It's a pity that the church is so devoted to income tithing as faithful translations point more to asset based giving than income.
Many I know, including myself had or continue to have these encounters. They are quite extraordinary and of course have many varying manifestations. I always remember Paul’s admonition to continue to be filled. I always ask for His presence, not for those goose bump times per se or a emotional encounter per se. Lots of people warn about them, probably out of jealousy. They are wonderful times and I take the verse in Acts 13:52 “and the disciples were continually filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit.” The word continually, not to be confused with the baptism of the Holy Spirit, simply those anointed times that can happen any time the Holy Spirit desires. Ask and you will receive, be bold and never limit Fathers desire to pour out his love on you!
@ No, we're just apes that got lucky, and have a higher functioning brain.
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@Sticky Steve Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men ”(2 Pet. 3:3-7). God created the world, which at first was covered with water . God once judged this world with a global, cataclysmic flood at the time of Noah. And God is going to judge this world again, but the next time it will be by fire. We read in Romans 1:20 that there is enough evidence to convince everyone that God is Creator, so much so that we are condemned if we do not believe. Furthermore, Romans 1:18 tells us that men ““suppress the truth in unrighteousness.”” It is not a matter of lack of evidence to convince people that the Bible is true; the problem is that they do not want to believe the Bible. The reason for this is obvious. If people believed in the God of the Bible, they would have to acknowledge His authority and obey the rules He has laid down. However, every human being suffers from the same problem-the sin which Adam committed in the Garden of Eden-a “disease” which we all inherit. Adam’s sin was rebellion against God’s authority. Likewise, people everywhere today are in rebellion against God, so to admit that the Bible is true would be an admission of their own sinful and rebellious nature and of their need to be born again by cleansing through the blood of Christ. The earth, sun, moon, and stars stand as memorials to the fact that God has created. The fossil record is an immense memorial to the fact that God has judged by water. All of this should warn each man, woman, and child that, just as God has kept His Word in the past concerning judgment, so He will keep His Word in the future concerning Judgment. My friend the Bible clearly says wickedness increased to the degree that God had no choice but to wipe out all of humanity and start over. The Scripture stresses that humankind's wickedness had come to the place where judgment was necessary. They were not only evil, they were evil continually. There was no shame whatsoever and no desire for godliness. Compare the statements of Genesis 6:5 with 1:31. Also compare Genesis 6:5 with 1:4 where God, at first, saw all things good, and then saw all things bad. Actually this Flood is a picture in Scripture of the final judgment of God. Jesus used it as an example of what the world will be like before He comes and sets up His kingdom. The unexpectedness hit them because they had not paid attention to the warning of God. Jesus said: But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be (Matthew 24:37-39). Scripture emphasizes rampant sin that was on the earth was the cause for the judgment. God is just !! The Flood in Noah's day is a picture of the future judgment that God will send upon the entire earth. Conditions will be similar in the last days as in the time of Noah. "Woe to those who quarrel with their Maker, those who are nothing but potsherds among the potsherds on the ground. Does the clay say to the potter, 'What are you making?' Does your work say, 'The potter has no hands'? Once you realise just how powerless and sinful you are sticky things become more palatable. Oh and you can’t be brainwashed into z kingdom it’s a impossibility )
Perhaps a little information on stem cells would be useful. A good try but missing a lot of helpful information. A stem cell is a basic cell at earliest level. One who needs this has been blessed in healing. Yes, very early fetus that you did not choose a person abort. Yet you may be saved by an act you might consider sinful. Healing something is a very good experience or event that you or myself would never consider this as a source of cells.
It's the 21st century people. Belief in this nonsense before we knew better was barely acceptable but now come on it's time to get over this ancient mythology!
@Caratacus This is the true horror of religion. It allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions, what only lunatics could believe on their own. Sam Harris.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ASK WRIGHT WHO I BELIEVE IS SO ..WRONG ON TRYING TO JUSTIFY HIS ARCHAIC BRONZE BELIEFS, IS THIS , HOW CAN YOU AS A SEEMINGLY INTELLIGENT MAN CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IN SO MUCH BIBLICAL MYTHOLOGICAL, FICTIONAL INCOHERENT NONSENSE !
You're Statement is fallacious and you show your hatred toward a God who, in your eyes doesnt exist yet, can stir up so much emotion in you. I can talk w you about how the Bible is not myth. Through scholarly dialog not on a basis of false statements or bias. But that is for you to accept or decline.
The people making the ridiculous "bronze age" comments reminds me of a G.K. Chesterton quote: "An imbecile habit has arisen in modern controversy of saying that such and such a creed can be held in one age but cannot be held in another. Some dogma, we are told, was credible in the twelfth century, but is not credible in the twentieth. You might as well say that a certain philosophy can be believed on Mondays, but cannot be believed on Tuesdays." The truth is the truth regardless of the passage of time, or the advancement of technology and science, let alone personal opinion and feeling. Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all 😊
Obviously some things were much easier to believe to be true when we knew much less about how the world works. And the advancement of science proved countless truths of the past wrong.
@@ramigilneas9274 You're basically committing a chronological snobbery fallacy of sorts considering there are many people today in 2024 who believe in a flat earth, ancient aliens, that Cleopatra was black, etc. Not knowing something exists or not, is not the same as saying for certain something does or doesnt. It's like saying, "Gravity did not exist until Newton," saying that things aren't true until some scientist says so. It's nonsensical. There is this European/American mentality that things can't be true or exist until they say so. I'm reminded of the gorilla being called a myth by white people until one was finally brought in. Same with the snow leopard, pygmy hippopotamus, and giant panda. Lack of evidence or seemingly none, does not mean anything. When it comes to the existence of Jesus Christ Almighty God, the atheist at best can only say, "We don't know." Lastly, Scientific American has recently stated that Popper's falsifiability should be replaced because it's not strong enough. So the "must be proven false" principle is just not capable of answering such questions. Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all
@@HomicideHenry How does that change the fact that lots of the stories in the OT have been proven to be myths or legends and that there isn’t a shred of evidence for any of the miraculous stories of the NT? And no… we don’t have to say "we don’t know“… because in fact we do know that without exception all falsifiable miracle claims in history turned out to be hoaxes while the only miracles that are left are those that are entirely unfalsifiable. So just because we can not prove those stories wrong because the evidence exclusively consists of unverifiable hearsay and anecdotes doesn’t somehow make those historically highly implausible stories that contradict everything that we know about how reality works true.😂
My favorite professor, a fine Christian man, had an office like Bishop Tom's...I took Literary Criticism (which is really a philosophy course) under him in undergrad school, rumored to be most difficult course in the English department. Dr. Vincent was exacting, but also unflinchingly gentle and kind. Getting an "A" in that course was my proudest moment. He kept one of my papers to assist him in teaching future classes.
As always - appreciate you Justin - and especially your wife being part of this - as a Christian currently attending a BAPTIST CHURCH that does not allow women as pastor - (but allow different viewpoints ) - I personally fully support and celebrate your place and your wife's ministry (because my church allows non-essential disagreement) in God's platform... GO!!!!
NT Wright is amazing. Everything I do on my channel is inspired by him!
WOW its a treat :) to listen NT Wright every week.
Fascinating, watching this in December 2020, and hearing people back in June talking about being overwhelmed by being cooped up. You have no idea what’s ahead….
Thanks.
Love this program.
God bless you
Your office is perfect. Don’t change one bit.
Dr. Wright my name is Nick and I’ve been introduced to you through my friend Butch Frey, who has been a longtime friend and also a mentor/counselor to me. Specifically he has been working with me on the concept of the unpardonable sin. Recently I’ve had intense fears about this subject and worried about possibly having done it when I was younger. I’m not worried as much about the unpardonable sin as taught by Jesus in the gospels when he was speaking to the Pharisees, as I am about the passages in Hebrews 6, 10, and 12. Lł
I’m having a major mental roadblock in embracing the answer to this question you gave on podcast #94 - which was, if you’re worried about it, you haven’t done it. I went through a short spell of fear of this during high school and that brief answer offered me hope then because I really wanted to serve the Lord and there was some trite joke I had made that triggered that original fear. But this one - now that I’ve been more trained and was dealing with what it means to surrender my whole life to God - this fear that started up since college based upon Hebrews 10:26-29 about “sinning willfully”’. I was struggling at the time with my college major.
Sorry - I was saying I was struggling with my major selection for college and I was concerned that God wantsd me to change it against my wishes. I loved the Lord and I had accepted Him long before. I never aspired to running out on God or backsliding, although I did struggle with some of these tough requests. During that intense soul searching time of my life I first became acquainted with the Hebrews 6 and 10 passages. I got scared because I thought by me wrestling with God’s will, what if He took that to mean I was sinning on purpose or deliberately and thereby committing what that passage was saying, as in “insulting the Spirit of grace”? I was in no way shape or form trying or wanting to do such a thing. Since that concern/topic resurfaced in 2020, it’s been 2 years that I’ve been unbelievably agonized with fear and anxiety that I may have committed it…it’s so bad, Dr. Wright, that every day I wake up afraid and grab my head and neck. My lymph nodes in my neck are swollen and my neck feels tight a lot. They are constant reminders of what I’m afraid of, so even when I try to recite the promises of God that He will never leave nor forsake me, or that He knows me and is compassionate toward me and that His mercies are new every morning, I struggle to believe it for myself. I feel like I can’t get back to peace and believe and rest in the Lord. I don’t know if this is what they call neurotic but it is AWFUL Dr. Wright. I feel like I’m dying. My head hurts a lot too. I feel desperate and I’m struggling to find that place of rest. Can you help me Dr. Wright? I need help untangling some of the twisted theology I’ve gotten over the years so I can see Jesus for Who He really is and get out of this pit of despair.
I almost choked on my tongue when I saw all those books. This should be classified as hoarding. Or must be wallpaper
It's good collection but you need to check out Umberto Eco's library walk-through on the youtubes :)
You should see my home! :)
It’s not hoarding, it’s a good way to overcome ignorance. A friend who is an avid reader laments the fact that the number of books he can read is limited as he gets older.
These are simply the tools of a pastor, teacher, and theologian
I think it is called a “Library.”
Love that NT wears Umbro!
I am a new listener from Oklahoma United States. Is there an update from John that was on a previous podcast with Sr. Sean McDowell. I have had him on my heart. Thank you.
Loved the privilege of hearing this
I would like to ask Bishop Wright if he would wright a book I cannot because of health? Given the "Me" centeredness of the modern American church, there needs to a corrective. Romans 8:28 is the most misquoted verse in the NT making into our servant rather than us being His.
Its just literature. He is simply a well read man. Whether what he is reading about is true or real is debatable. i bet Graham Hancock has an equally impressively stocked study.
What language should all Christians pray Hebrew?
Asking is cremation determinative in the afterlife?
I did not know that Justin's wife was a Minister. That is way cool 😎. Greetings from Kentucky.
@AnarchoRepublican I don't know but he is blessed with a pretty wife.
So sorry I missed this. Needing help -What is dualism and is it biblical? It seems that there are two Christian camps on this issue. One thinks the other is progressive and not Christian at all. I’m getting comments that I’m not a True believer. Ouch that hurts. I’m guessing that the ancient world view was dualistic, but does that mean that Jesus had that view also? Or did he revolutionize and change our world view? I do So want to follow Jesus. But this philosophy stuff boggles my little mind.
Has Wright convinced Rabbi Tovia Singer to reconsider his Judaism? Have they held any public debate?
Yes you know your church is in good hands when your hijab wearing "bishop" is less worried about preaching the word and administering the sacraments, but rather writing guidelines about the type of pen you can sign a wedding license with.
i wish i was online with you at the right time. Please if this works out, I hope professor right sees this question I would love to hear his answer on this. 2 things. 1. it looks to me like the world has an opportunity to be united, globally, in 1 topic (specifically covid), for the first time in history, united in ways we have never been able to (thanks to technology etc). That is a first, as far as i can tell at this magnitude, and given that covid is a health, global threat, couldn't we as the people of God take advantage at the fact that the entire world is looking and listening? 2. can the church use this pandemic as means to instill some much needed change in the education system, especially within the body of Christ? Discipleship is almost entirely missing in the west, (especially north american west) there is a huge gap in knowledge between most and education (even theology as a topic) has become only for the "elite" or those "called", and even the church structure itself is so far from 1st century examples that it is almost incomparable. Could we use all this to restructure the church to a more biblical perspective, where ephesians 5:11-16 or acts 2:42 still exist?
Because of much of the church's devotion to the doctrine of income tithing, the church will reject any changes that challenge their ability to profit from the money that is present in the public education system. Soooo many female public education teachers around the world.
The poor church won't rock that boat. So strange that a faith that pretends to be about family undermines the family by A) expecting women to give of their tithes directly to the church (not to her husband) and B) expects tithes that grow hand in hand with the degree of materialism present in the culture - as it affects the level of income in a family.
Were tithes based on possessions / wealth instead of income, stewardship might actually be a true focus of the church. It's a pity that the church is so devoted to income tithing as faithful translations point more to asset based giving than income.
Many I know, including myself had or continue to have these encounters. They are quite extraordinary and of course have many varying manifestations. I always remember Paul’s admonition to continue to be filled. I always ask for His presence, not for those goose bump times per se or a emotional encounter per se. Lots of people warn about them, probably out of jealousy. They are wonderful times and I take the verse in Acts 13:52 “and the disciples were continually filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit.” The word continually, not to be confused with the baptism of the Holy Spirit, simply those anointed times that can happen any time the Holy Spirit desires. Ask and you will receive, be bold and never limit Fathers desire to pour out his love on you!
This is JUST PATENT nonsense !
Dude's the Noam Chomsky of Christianity. lol
Justine,
Pretty wife you have... ask her to keep smiling. It was the highlight of the show.
Is this the same guy that speaks in tongues?
Yes, there is talk of having him sectioned soon, but his defence is he's Christian.
@AnarchoRepublican
The Charismatics are truer to the religion, but clearly gullible AF.
@AnarchoRepublican
Don't see your point.
@
No, we're just apes that got lucky, and have a higher functioning brain.
@Sticky Steve Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men ”(2 Pet. 3:3-7).
God created the world, which at first was covered with water . God once judged this world with a global, cataclysmic flood at the time of Noah.
And God is going to judge this world again, but the next time it will be by fire.
We read in Romans 1:20 that there is enough evidence to convince everyone that God is Creator, so much so that we are condemned if we do not believe. Furthermore, Romans 1:18 tells us that men ““suppress the truth in unrighteousness.”” It is not a matter of lack of evidence to convince people that the Bible is true; the problem is that they do not want to believe the Bible. The reason for this is obvious. If people believed in the God of the Bible, they would have to acknowledge His authority and obey the rules He has laid down. However, every human being suffers from the same problem-the sin which Adam committed in the Garden of Eden-a “disease” which we all inherit. Adam’s sin was rebellion against God’s authority. Likewise, people everywhere today are in rebellion against God, so to admit that the Bible is true would be an admission of their own sinful and rebellious nature and of their need to be born again by cleansing through the blood of Christ.
The earth, sun, moon, and stars stand as memorials to the fact that God has created. The fossil record is an immense memorial to the fact that God has judged by water. All of this should warn each man, woman, and child that, just as God has kept His Word in the past concerning judgment, so He will keep His Word in the future concerning Judgment.
My friend the Bible clearly says wickedness increased to the degree that God had no choice but to wipe out all of humanity and start over. The Scripture stresses that humankind's wickedness had come to the place where judgment was necessary. They were not only evil, they were evil continually. There was no shame whatsoever and no desire for godliness. Compare the statements of Genesis 6:5 with 1:31. Also compare Genesis 6:5 with 1:4 where God, at first, saw all things good, and then saw all things bad.
Actually this Flood is a picture in Scripture of the final judgment of God. Jesus used it as an example of what the world will be like before He comes and sets up His kingdom. The unexpectedness hit them because they had not paid attention to the warning of God. Jesus said:
But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be (Matthew 24:37-39).
Scripture emphasizes rampant sin that was on the earth was the cause for the judgment. God is just !!
The Flood in Noah's day is a picture of the future judgment that God will send upon the entire earth. Conditions will be similar in the last days as in the time of Noah.
"Woe to those who quarrel with their Maker, those who are nothing but potsherds among the potsherds on the ground. Does the clay say to the potter, 'What are you making?' Does your work say, 'The potter has no hands'?
Once you realise just how powerless and sinful you are sticky things become more palatable.
Oh and you can’t be brainwashed into z kingdom it’s a impossibility )
Perhaps a little information on stem cells would be useful. A good try but missing a lot of helpful information. A stem cell is a basic cell at earliest level. One who needs this has been blessed in healing. Yes, very early fetus that you did not choose a person abort. Yet you may be saved by an act you might consider sinful. Healing something is a very good experience or event that you or myself would never consider this as a source of cells.
Describe the impact that the mystery of God, Col 1:25-27, Christ in you the hope of glory, has a new testament theology and eschatology.
Abu Lana booby I rana huma Anna homie igi ihama dumnasses
God save the Pope of Rome
It's the 21st century people. Belief in this nonsense before we knew better was barely acceptable but now come on it's time to get over this ancient mythology!
@Caratacus Oh poor you. I'd rather live in reality than in a delusion.
@Caratacus This is the true horror of religion. It allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions, what only lunatics could believe on their own. Sam Harris.
Scooter's hitchens blow up doll must have gone missing.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ASK WRIGHT WHO I BELIEVE IS SO ..WRONG ON TRYING TO JUSTIFY HIS ARCHAIC BRONZE
BELIEFS, IS THIS ,
HOW CAN YOU AS A SEEMINGLY INTELLIGENT MAN CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IN SO MUCH
BIBLICAL MYTHOLOGICAL,
FICTIONAL INCOHERENT
NONSENSE !
You're Statement is fallacious and you show your hatred toward a God who, in your eyes doesnt exist yet, can stir up so much emotion in you. I can talk w you about how the Bible is not myth. Through scholarly dialog not on a basis of false statements or bias. But that is for you to accept or decline.
The people making the ridiculous "bronze age" comments reminds me of a G.K. Chesterton quote:
"An imbecile habit has arisen in modern controversy of saying that such and such a creed can be held in one age but cannot be held in another. Some dogma, we are told, was credible in the twelfth century, but is not credible in the twentieth. You might as well say that a certain philosophy can be believed on Mondays, but cannot be believed on Tuesdays."
The truth is the truth regardless of the passage of time, or the advancement of technology and science, let alone personal opinion and feeling.
Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all 😊
That's a brilliant quote Homicide! Thanks for sharing. I will have to save it.
Obviously some things were much easier to believe to be true when we knew much less about how the world works.
And the advancement of science proved countless truths of the past wrong.
@@ramigilneas9274
You're basically committing a chronological snobbery fallacy of sorts considering there are many people today in 2024 who believe in a flat earth, ancient aliens, that Cleopatra was black, etc.
Not knowing something exists or not, is not the same as saying for certain something does or doesnt. It's like saying, "Gravity did not exist until Newton," saying that things aren't true until some scientist says so. It's nonsensical.
There is this European/American mentality that things can't be true or exist until they say so. I'm reminded of the gorilla being called a myth by white people until one was finally brought in. Same with the snow leopard, pygmy hippopotamus, and giant panda. Lack of evidence or seemingly none, does not mean anything.
When it comes to the existence of Jesus Christ Almighty God, the atheist at best can only say, "We don't know." Lastly, Scientific American has recently stated that Popper's falsifiability should be replaced because it's not strong enough. So the "must be proven false" principle is just not capable of answering such questions.
Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all
@@HomicideHenry
How does that change the fact that lots of the stories in the OT have been proven to be myths or legends and that there isn’t a shred of evidence for any of the miraculous stories of the NT?
And no… we don’t have to say "we don’t know“… because in fact we do know that without exception all falsifiable miracle claims in history turned out to be hoaxes while the only miracles that are left are those that are entirely unfalsifiable.
So just because we can not prove those stories wrong because the evidence exclusively consists of unverifiable hearsay and anecdotes doesn’t somehow make those historically highly implausible stories that contradict everything that we know about how reality works true.😂