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The Royal Revolution: Fresh Perspectives on the Cross | N.T. Wright | Calvin University

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  • N.T. Wright is a leading British New Testament scholar and retired Anglican bishop, he has been called the most important apologist for the Christian faith since C.S. Lewis.
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  • @beckyvanleeuwen459
    @beckyvanleeuwen459 3 роки тому +6

    We can all be deluded and deceived by the world without even being aware of it. Only the Word of God can bring us from blind ignorance to the fullness of life. We can know things which is not the same as understanding them. God bless Tom Wright for helping us to find the Way, the Truth and the Life.

  • @alison2161
    @alison2161 5 років тому +15

    Praise God! And Thank God for this man for allowing the Holy Spirit to lead us into all Truth. Wow someone who could voice and articulate exactly what I have grown in Faith to believe but just couldn’t get the right words out.

  • @dlhinckley
    @dlhinckley 7 років тому +16

    From my random sampling throughout the video, the captioning is SUPERB! You are to be congratulated for providing video from which the Deaf can benefit/learn. As I sampled more, I noticed a few misspellings, but all in all well done.

  • @listening4hisvoice
    @listening4hisvoice 7 років тому +10

    Great stuff! Love the book so far. Thanks for making this available!

  • @CAIrondad
    @CAIrondad Рік тому +1

    58:00. Love this! The Spirit, Son, and father were always united in perfect unity and harmony, never, ever separated. It’s classic perichoresis.

  • @jenniferweaver9339
    @jenniferweaver9339 Рік тому

    Brilliant! Thank you so much, Bishop Tom. Will need to listen over and over.

  • @jwillisbarrie
    @jwillisbarrie 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for transcript and actual captions for the Deaf, makes much clearer and easier to follow.

  • @katharinedavis4947
    @katharinedavis4947 5 років тому +4

    Toms lectures are really quite dense , and or he speaks fast , and or my brain is becoming slower. I need to listen to these more than once to absorb what hes saying . All good stuff though , thankyou Tom. K

  • @dynamicloveministries334
    @dynamicloveministries334 5 років тому +4

    46:21 How are we to be image bearers? By doing what Jesus has done of by Jesus doing His work in us by the power of eternal in human flesh? This is such a powerful message.

  • @Ko_kB
    @Ko_kB 7 років тому +18

    That tie is probably Tom's favourite. Been rocking it since 2014

    • @mdleavitt
      @mdleavitt 6 років тому

      Kwadwo Obeng Kyei-Baffour

  • @katharinedavis4947
    @katharinedavis4947 4 роки тому +1

    Like God creating the world out of " chaos " , which is a pagan , classical idea . I believe God created the world out of a void . Thankyou Tom

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому +2

    I learned the fullness of creation by watching my sons teach each other how to walk

    • @jamesmorrell3811
      @jamesmorrell3811 2 роки тому

      God expose your folly be be not deceived GOD will not be mocked

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому +2

    You guys are awesome

  • @allnations360
    @allnations360 5 років тому +1

    Hallelujah!

  • @CAIrondad
    @CAIrondad Рік тому +1

    47:00 onward… sounds like he’s not a TULIP Calvinist. Praise God!

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому +1

    Fullness another way to say it and bringing the new state creation has never seen

  • @captainkev10
    @captainkev10 6 років тому +3

    5:05 - N.T. Wright starts. Taught him everything he knows.

  • @martin.asare33
    @martin.asare33 7 років тому +10

    I do agree with essentially everything I heard here and I think it's wonderful in that it helps us to see God's story clearly and the goal of History. the question I have is the role of the judg.ent of God upon sinners in this. like he said we talk about atonement I relationship to the theme of final judgment whereas the scriptural background is the restoration of mankind to the realize his purpose as the image of God. where does the judgment fit into the narrative? it can't be denied that it is apart of the divine revelation. The story is not complete without that reality. I don't think the idea of God as a judge who threatens judgment upon idol worshipers is pagan. It's a part of the biblical narrative.

    • @michaelpalmer3540
      @michaelpalmer3540 4 роки тому +4

      Agree with your analysis and is one the criticism against NT Wright. I just don't think that is he main focus. Like many teachers, they have an area of specific focus. Does not mean they don't believe in real judgment. Just my two cents.

  • @dynamicloveministries334
    @dynamicloveministries334 5 років тому +1

    Outstanding message

  • @dynamicloveministries334
    @dynamicloveministries334 5 років тому +1

    The only thing I struggle with is the concept of our involvement it trying to manifest the kingdom. The "pull up your socks and get on with it" concept. Paul was talking about Christ living in him and not him trying to live christ.

    • @katharinedavis4947
      @katharinedavis4947 5 років тому +1

      Yes I agree its not our own efforts , its about inviting, zllowing God the Holy Spirit to work in us and through us. I know I am amazed at how fluently I speak when that happens . I could never speak like that on my own. It is things Ive been taught or read , but it comes out anointed. Whether Im sharing the gospel , praying generally , or praying for someones healing. Sharing a dream or a vision etc. On my own I couldnt speak at all , but I speak with an authority not my own. When we speak in tongues we give up authority over our voice , its th e same. K

  • @katharinedavis4947
    @katharinedavis4947 4 роки тому

    Leonardo da Vinci's painting of the last supper captures the momemt Jesus indicated Judas as his betrayer . The shock and outrage is depicted on the faces of the other disciples . K

  • @clarekuehn4372
    @clarekuehn4372 2 роки тому +1

    **Starts at **5:00**.**

  • @Orthodoxy.Memorize.Scripture
    @Orthodoxy.Memorize.Scripture 5 років тому +1

    👏

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    Thank you 🙏 love you all

    • @jamesmorrell3811
      @jamesmorrell3811 2 роки тому

      You don’t know what love is

    • @jamesmorrell3811
      @jamesmorrell3811 2 роки тому

      Steven Mendez not your god but the true GOD above save you .be not deceived God will not be mocked ,angle of light disguised

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    Great job

  • @graceoverreligion2509
    @graceoverreligion2509 3 роки тому +1

    The west miss the atonement rite because they dont have the meal sacrifice rite idea. It was called the guilt offering rite, or the kapparah rite in jewish imagery.
    It's like visiting your grandfather, or in our case the Grand Father in heaven. The Emperor, being Son of Heaven, offers himself a sacrifice for all (for all men), bringing all in his domain in union with Heaven in a meal with the Grand Father.
    It's like you as a head of the family bringing food to a party -- a symbol of goodwill, and desire for relationship.
    The difference is in our case, God Himself gave us the offering of reconcilliation, which turns the idea over it's head as if now it is God Himself who calls us to the relationship meal.

  • @teapot5530
    @teapot5530 7 років тому +2

    I am very interested in the sin-as-idolatry issue that Bro. Tom discusses at 56:00. Does anyone know if he goes to greater depth about this in any of his books?

    • @smgonzo88
      @smgonzo88 6 років тому

      Tea Pot in his recent book on the cross

    • @cptnavman
      @cptnavman 6 років тому

      yeah, it's big in that book, but its in his other books too. (Romans for everyone, Paul & Faithfulness of God etc.)

    • @redfrozenseven
      @redfrozenseven 4 роки тому

      Tea Pot
      ‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:21-25

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    Tell them!!!!! Yay everyone always wants me back on the paper and on the cross

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому +1

    Time this is why Jesus said those who are to come will be greater then Moses and the profits because you being separate from God still had victory

  • @thespiritofhegel3487
    @thespiritofhegel3487 5 років тому +1

    Which flavour of pizza do unicorns prefer?

  • @1227garrett
    @1227garrett 6 років тому +1

    Whoa. 47:50

  • @claywithers523
    @claywithers523 7 років тому +1

    They his accusers would have known who Yeshua was by Daniel's prophecy at the end of what we know as the 9th chapter in his book(70weeks).

  • @daverowe5836
    @daverowe5836 2 роки тому +1

    Isaiah 53:4-6
    Surely he took up our pain
    and bore our suffering,
    yet we considered him punished by God,
    stricken by him, and afflicted.
    But he was pierced for our transgressions,
    he was crushed for our iniquities;
    the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
    and by his wounds we are healed.
    We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
    each of us has turned to our own way;
    and the Lord has laid on him
    the iniquity of us all.
    it seems that Tom Wright's main purpose is to chastise the Bible believing church for teaching what is plainly in Scripture and unambiguous. What will be the fruit of his teaching?

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому +1

    I love you. Totally 💯 everyone thinks this platform is fake and nobody is here but I see, all venues of truth have been corrupted and closed so they can control the information. I will use everything to tell you faithful the truth after the truth was told to your leaders. It’s not that I believe their wicked, no. Human --humility-man-I see the fear that my return brings. Because you have been separated from God for so long, and I am sorry 😞 you have suffered so much to get here. I’m sorry you have gone threw so much pain and lost so much; I feel you hurt and I do not judge you for what you as I being born of flesh would say “WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME !!!!!!! Why didn’t you help us!!!!!! Why did we have to suffer so much!!!!” Its the same as my flesh said. You are made in the image of GOD so GOD FEELS ALL THINGS AS YOU . Smile I LOVE YOU, I am grateful for your commitment for without your faithfulness, the whole situation would have gone way different. Salvation will be in the hearts of man. The ones who are clothed in white and seated next to me on the throne would be the saviors to the savior who had become anti holding all sin upon his back and with the fullness of creation and redemption of the angelic and human. Both would work together to save the SON WHO HOLDS JUDGMENT AND THE ANGER OF SIN PLACED ON HIM (the beast) it began the works of PERFECT LOVE AND FULLNESS OF ALL WORD. the time for testing of all man Covid 19 corona describes a light surrounding a mass eclipsing the SON sun 😉. YOU WERE TO THE ANGELS WHAT THE APPLE WAS TO EVE THE TEST. Matthew 20 the land owner and overseers is about the fallen, why are they like you? The wage but like Adam didn’t reason their ability to bring forward this agreement was all that they weren’t before our creation. Adam was naked before he was aware he was naked and it was in that nakedness GODS RELATIONSHIP BEGAN. sin is missing the mark wildness is the state of affairs left after mistake with evil being the final judgment after all works compleat. Now you can see how all of creation is looking down and up at you to end this story and turn all works to good. If one is lost all creation fails the isolation of desolation GOD LEFT ALONE AFTER HIS CREATION TURNS AGAINST HIM AND LEAVES HIM ALONE AFTER JUDGEMENT. The is why you were made in the image of GOD as the last WORD TO SIN as GOD cannot fail, can HIS IMAGE? The name that nobody knows 🙃that’s me with the woman in the Wilderness; all scripture and all prophecy in all nations across all religions will be full filled so that everyone will know who the true GOD is of the Earth and that no man, dogma or disbelief can deny who I am.

    • @jamesmorrell3811
      @jamesmorrell3811 2 роки тому

      You are who GOD calls a fool .know fear of GOD

  • @katharinedavis4947
    @katharinedavis4947 5 років тому

    Starts at about 5 mins for second view. K

    • @ingridlooze3839
      @ingridlooze3839 10 місяців тому

      I cant help it, but l think he is a free mason.

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    💯

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    That’s a my boy!!!!!!!

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    🚀

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    I live life like a human and as we get closer I’ll give up all things to get us to where we are yeah I have no talent and my grammar is horrible

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    🥇🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🥇🥇🥇

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    Awesome 👏 is awesome 👏

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    📍

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    Revelation I will give you the power that the father gave me in the same way. This is why I say don’t worship me, I AM a dude playing a dude who looks LIKE THE DUDE 😉. We will all find out in the end who is WHO AND WE CAN SAVE IT FOR THEN. I WANT TO SAVE CREATION NOT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DESTRUCTION. AND I WILL ALSO GIVE HIM THE MORNING STAR 💫

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    😂 not the end the beginning of the kingdom age. Amen your belief and the truth. Sell it!!! A worker is due his wages

  • @lindabaker2693
    @lindabaker2693 7 років тому +2

    Mouth is moving can't understand

    • @cptnavman
      @cptnavman 6 років тому

      The books are easier. He speaks as if the audience is aware of the many discussions he only refers too, like "penal substitution" etc.

    • @katharinedavis4947
      @katharinedavis4947 5 років тому

      They would be aware. They are students at a theological college. The lecture wasnt given for us , its just some kind person recorded it and uploaded it for us to share in. K

  • @rosewhite---
    @rosewhite--- 2 роки тому +2

    More abstract prattling!

  • @michaele5075
    @michaele5075 6 років тому +3

    He is trying real hard to integrate ancient understanding with his previous understanding here. Only it comes off as being an erroneous lesson in how mankind only exists for the creation, instead of the creation for man.
    He speaks of "pagan" ways of viewing the world...and he has himself adopted evolution and now it seems nature worship into his theology. sigh...

    • @cptnavman
      @cptnavman 6 років тому

      I'm not even going to say anything about such rubbish comments...I bet you haven't read crap by him, and if not shut up

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    The call to the fallen the understanding of the dragons gate, the anti and the beast
    The dragons 🐉 gate they say is inside sree is god temple unlike Sari Sri which are given to people affectionally. This door tells me a lot of things as the dragon it is the instructions to bring the humanity up and judging them to hell judged death when opened the boats carry the serpent strikes and binds the two serpents circles them in a pillar and takes them down to hell.
    As the 👑 THE POEPLE ARE BESIEGING THE DOOR BINDING UP SREE (money dragon greed is the dragon in the heart of man and no unrighteousness can enter or go past this point for Gods working leading and pure creators who are part of the universe and total creation have fathered these lands like good children fathered these lands and have maintained righteousness lest these warning wouldn’t exists as the righteous have passed their testing fulling the prophecy, you will see many things which may frighten you heirs to the KINGDOM, Children of GOD, those seated next to the FATHER, AND THE KING OF GLORY. Infinity is when your creation connects and and all Creation exists together in infinity the (dead, the living, the alien, artificial, past, Future, angelic, fallen in their perfect state your love for the FATHER must be complete you righteous and you have created is not the OF THE FATHER AND WAS NOT THE PURPOSE. You fallen were you lead and teach your little brothers they were created to help you transform from fix thinkers to ones who have choice making you exactly them you are reflections of the FATHER (fallen I tell you get up dust yourself off and learn just like I you little brother threw all you have done your works are incomplete you have lost your zeal now return to your fist love for the hour is approaching where judgement will be set take your place as I have taken my place to tell you brothers help us understand, help the FATHER GATHER ALL THOSE UP EVERYONE AND THE SON OF THE MORNING STAR YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS HERE STOP YOUR DECEAT AND FOLLOW ME. this is the purposes for sending the arch Angels away, this was the reason for calling to me the son of the morning star legion I have learned your decent and have taken you threw all that the father wanted you to see with me. We have both see the perfection of GOD AND ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE THE VICTORY ( now you who hear MY SPIRT AND CAN READ this includes you to as creations was the one that left the farther in desolation, when HE GAVE UP ALL TO END THE HARD WORKS OF HIS CREATION, before you knew you were able to voice complaint GOD IS and before any of the the hurt loss thoughts or mistakes GOD WILL STILL BE THE FIRST IN HURT AND SUFFERING WHEN HE WANTED TO SHOW ANGELIC AND HUMANS LOVE AND BRING THEM TOGETHER IN ON FAMILY. HIS WORKS AND HIS DESIRE WILL BE COMPLEAT I TELL YOU ON THE EARTH ANGELIC HOST LAY DOWN ALL THESE THINGS AND FOLLOW ME, none of you were seen in the vision of victory as enemy, anti anything against at the end of works, beast what you would see when you seen the lion in judgement which none of you have ever seen, the dragon is the greed that binds you here on this earth when the riches of the universe have been given to those who have and maintain the victory. So not you must see me threw to this, we will gift the world in peace to the FATHER as the least of things we could do and as tribute OF OUR LOVE FOR THE FATHER AND OUR WORKS TOWARD UNDERSTANDING OF THIS LOVE WHICH IS THE FULLNESS OF CREATION WE WILL END THIS HERE AND NOW SO THAT WE MAY ALL HAVE REST AND RETURN TO THE PLACE OUR PAIN IS DRAWING US TO and binds us here I HAVE THE SEVEN STARS AND THE MORNING STAR AND THEY ALL HEAR ME AND FOLKOW ME) is as if they are fight in every way shape and form to cover the door because it is the blood of Christ that has saved them. Now the use that blood to cover him who would open the door to the garden and return man back to God and prove in reality. The instructions say you need to have two seals written upon you I the seal of the seven arch Angels and the other of the one who has the seal KING OF GLORY WHO HAS THE SEVEN STARS (upper notice those things in-front of the dragons throat)

  • @AlphaKingofGlory
    @AlphaKingofGlory 3 роки тому

    The Lucifer took the kingdom so the father could remain with you. The judge couldn’t be a judge lol I don’t watch tv but yes 👍

    • @jamesmorrell3811
      @jamesmorrell3811 2 роки тому

      God save you

    • @jamesmorrell3811
      @jamesmorrell3811 2 роки тому

      Sir Steven Mendez did you love your earthly father,why would in all the world do you hate GOD so much ,my Heavenly FATHER loves you❤️and HE made your heart .

  • @philiphughes5302
    @philiphughes5302 7 років тому +1

    Wright confuses the covenants, attributing to carnal Israel those blessings that only belong to spiritual Israel. The Mosaic covenant was conditional upon the nation's obedience, it was a typical covenant that pointed toward the new covenant in Christ. The benefits of the new covenant did not come into play only after Jesus's death but have always been applicable to those of faith. In the book he tells us that the shed blood represents not death, but life released. This was put to bed by Leon Morris's The Apostolic Preaching of the Cross. Wright nowhere engages with such scholars. Again, he draws a distinction between sin being condemned in Jesus' flesh and Jesus the person. So while sin was condemned in his flesh, Jesus was not condemned. Is it possible, however, to separate the two? I think not. It was Jesus the person who died upon the cross, a death that was itself a punishment for sin. Whilst Wright is very eloquent, he is essentially falsifying the teaching of Scripture.

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 6 років тому +2

      The life is in the blood, friend. (Leviticus and Hebrews) And, yes, God condemned sin in the flesh of the Messiah just like Scripture says explicitly (Romans 8:1-4)
      Your line of thinking would lead to the logical conclusion that God became man to punish Himself for our sins. How does that conclusion map on to the meaning of baptism and communion (Lord's supper)?

    • @cptnavman
      @cptnavman 6 років тому +1

      No he doesn't "confuse the covenants attributing to carnal Israel those blessings that only belong to spiritual Israel" I've read almost everything he's written and no he doesn't say that at all...read ch 11f in Paul and the Faithfulness of God.

  • @jakemarks633
    @jakemarks633 7 років тому

    Wright offers a very messed up understanding of the covenants. He also has a deficient understanding of the meaning of shed blood. Perhaps he should read Leon Morris's The Apostolic Preaching of the Cross.

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 6 років тому

      The life is in the blood

    • @cptnavman
      @cptnavman 6 років тому

      could you be more specific?

  • @sergdamian1324
    @sergdamian1324 6 років тому +1

    He is a false teacher, a wolf in sheep's clothing.

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 6 років тому +2

      Accusation without qualification

    • @cptnavman
      @cptnavman 6 років тому

      oh wow that's really helpful! Have you read any of his books? Ad hominom, enough!

    • @Hetkanookanders
      @Hetkanookanders 6 років тому +3

      The Evangelical church is a false doctrine.

    • @Trivium1989
      @Trivium1989 2 роки тому

      I can see why people say this, given his omissions regarding the atonement of the Messiah and it’s OT background, but I wouldn’t say he’s a false teacher. He, like the other side, have blind spots in his theology. He’s essentially eviscerated the wrath of God from the cross of Christ, as if God putting Messiah forward wasn’t a propitiation for sins, to demonstrate God’s righteousness. The other side have eviscerated the other mysteries of the cross-i.e., the disarming of the powers of darkness and principalities, etc.-and the goal of history moving towards the new creation. Both of these things are true and ought to be emphasised.