Shaq beefed with Bill Walton because he doesn't believe Walton's on his level
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Shaquille takes the brotherhood of big men very seriously. He has nothing but admiration for the NBA centers he views as true greats. Well, Bill Walton doesn't rank among those greats, according to Shaq, so over the years, when Walton has used his platform to criticize O'Neal ... Shaq has fired back. At times, it's gotten pretty beefy.
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Seth back... to the Mavs for the 3rd time 😂
Pls don't leave
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My takeaway from every beef history involving Shaq is the same: big fella is super sensitive and insecure even though he’s accomplished so much in his career
Shaq is such an emotional lesbian.
Very much so
Lol pretty much. Dudes a man child
@@synapse913lmao wow did you come up with that 😂 like that joke has never been said thousand of time
Too much ego, the greatest greats don't need to tell everyone they're great.
Shaq’s such a strange character. Very charitable and philanthropic, by all accounts a decent man to most people. Yet so wildly insecure and defensive he’ll essentially bully people until he feels safe.
He’s a big child he’s quick to his emotions, if you read about Shaq you would know he’ll been much worst without his stepfather. Shaq is good guy but he lets his emotions take over.
Shaq is nuanced.
Which is exactly why Kobe hated him because instead of trying to improve himself he’d chill and not try until playoffs come.
His philanthropy, no matter how well intentioned and/or helpful, is no doubt fueled by a desire to make himself look better.
He's a 50 year old child period. 😂
"Shaq's arrogance is an insult to people who think" is damn near poetic lol.
Shaq is gonna watch this vid. And then he's gonna have beef with Beef History.
had to write this one down fr😂
The illest thing in this video lol
Shocking- but Shaq punched above his weight with Bill.
@@jwyh4162😂
R.I.P Mr Walton sometimes we get caught up in petty arguments instead of coming together.
Shaq acknowledged their beef in the farewell message to the passing of Walton on TNT
@@vinicbeber And he was still pushing their beef days before and even after Walton died.
@@vinicbeberShaq didn’t acknowledge Walton’s legacy, he was making it about himself
Tell shaq that same thing he did with kobe and it was too late when you want to squash the beef
I just want to remind people that Bill Walton did not just 'sit at the end of the bench' in Boston when they won the '86 championship. He played 80 games during the regular season and 16 games during the playoffs, 19 minutes per game during the regular season and 18 minutes per game during the playoffs. Bill Walton also won the 6th man trophy during that very same season.
Yeah, they definitely underplayed how good he was for that Celtics team....he actually took a great, championship team, to a new level. Things don't always show up in stats....if you watched that team Walton could seal up the paint on defense and when he was in the ball movement and flow of the offense was a thing of beauty.
Thanks for the context
Hatem
Exactly, I mean the dude was 7ft tall in the 70s where these guy were pretty much forced to play through all sorts of injuries, its no wonder he was only able to fully play 2 seasons of his career and won both a FMVP and a Reg MVP in both those years. That MVP alone makes him an all time great player/hall of famer. But him being top 75 I can understand not liking though.
hell yea bill walton the most high
It’s amazing how everyone of Shaq’s beefs are with someone that admired him and wished for his best. Dude took the sentence “don’t meet your idols” to heart.
Didn't think of that crazy
Because he's one of those people who's fine with you as long as you agree with everything he says and does and tell him what he wants to hear.....the minute you don't he goes into toddler mode. He's always been like that and still is really.
@@KClouisville I think sometimes that's not even the case. Like Dwight Howard was a real fan of Shaq, had him as his idol and modelled his play after him, and when people pointed some similarities and said the word "superman", Shaq just went ballistic on the dude, taking away from whatever he did. Javale was similar too, Shaq just went after the guy for being a big that wasn't a star like him. It feels kinda sad actually, imagine getting into the league to have your idol bash you constantly and you're not even that bad.
@@Stej-i7m penny
Funny cause he turned around and did the same to Dwight Howard too...
Shaq is clearly a Beef Hall of Famer he might need his own playlist at this point
GBE: Greatest Beefer Ever!
Dude...the Beef HOF is a definite playlist.
The way he dose tv interviews just to talk beef is so crazy, most of the other BH vids feel like newspaper clippings and here say
Wilt had his fair share of beefs as well. The two biggest guys but two of the most insecure of the top tier greats. He always hated on Kareem, Russell, MJ, Magic, and a few others. No disrespect to Big Dipper tho. He’s still the man. RIP.
Him and Sir Charles are mad trash talkers almost to the point of being haters
I know Shaq has been in a few "beef history" episodes, but I wasn't expecting one with Bill Walton 😂
We get all Shaq's beef except his one with Kobe (RIP)
@@kylebenbow431 I know Shaq can get carried away with his sensitivity but Kobe (R.I.P) was very wrong in that beef..
@@kenrickkahn A lot of ego + a very bad police interrogation = disaster. Could be a 2 parter. At the very least, they made peace later in life and recognized each of their wrongs.
@@kylebenbow431 REAL BEEF WAS DURING 50 GOAT !! WALTON SAID : SHAQ IS ONLY 3 YEARS IN NBA , DOMINIQUE IS 15 YEARS !! THAT SAME NIGHT WALTON TOLD EVERYONE SHAQ AND MJ ARE GREAT IN 90S ERA BUT WILT CHAMBERLAIN IS ONLY GUY IN THIS CEREMONY WHOS GOAT AND EVERYONE IN THE ROOM KNOWS THAT WHEN HE ENTER.
Walton was absolutely the better overall player:
Bill Walton had an incredible run in Portland and another amazing comeback with Boston. Add sixth man award to his career. That in and of itself is a great accomplishment. Shaq's beef was from Walton saying nicely that he needed to loose weight which is true. Shaq looked like a whale at the end of his career.
That's all Kobe was saying too.
Bill Walton should not be in the HOF. he was good 3 seasons out of “ahem” 10. Never averaged over 20 pts. No way is he a 75 anniversary team player.
@@stevelundt6498Peak precedes longevity, and as a top 5 passing big of all time, top 10 defender all time, and giving you about 18 points, Walton has a top 20-30 peak in league history. Think bill russell with a better offensive impact.
How did he win 6man of the year averaging 8 points a game. Sounds like a hoax
@@J-Bravo416that's the thing. Numbers don't tell the whole story.
Rip Bill Walton! Shaq was actin a fool for this
Shaqtin a fool
Shaq has come out and said he regretted how he treated Bill and that he respected him
Shaq telling Walton to respect his elders is wild, considering Bill hooped professionally before Shaq was even born 😂
That absolutely sounds like something Shaq would say 😂😂😂
Shaq telling anyone to respect anyone is wild 😂
Walton was drafted 2 years after Shaq was born
I remember when little Shaq was just a swimming in my sack waiting to get out and grab a basketball. He wasn’t super skilled didn’t have to work hard he was just physically bigger and badder than everyone. If he woulda had a good work ethic been decent at free throws imagine he woulda been that much more dominant
Shaq is such a clown
*Other NBA players are successful*
Shaq: "And I took that personally."
And I got Rings!!! Google me Other NBA Players!!
Shaq made some decent points but he missed the most important one. Walton has already been stamped by his OGs so the discussion is over. If Russell, Wilt, and Kareem says Walton is one of them, Walton is one of them. Sadly, a large part of Shaq's legacy will be about how much of his talent he wasted.
Just Wilt and Russell* the great KAJ is his peer and Walton swept prime KAJ in his juggernaut college days
@@dusk6159 How could he sweep KAJ in college if they both went to UCLA...I think you're confused
@@theinktician My bad I meant young Walton and young Kareem while both already in the league.
Shaq could have been the best of them all, but he was lazy. Think how good he could have been if he had a work ethic like Kobe.
@@kray97 Shaq ended up with more championships & career points than all of them except Kareem (points & chips), Wilt (points), & Russell (Chips).
Came back here as soon as I heard the news. RIP Bill Walton.
Shaq was one of the most unstoppable players... for about 8 or 9 years and his lack of growth (and willingness to grow) kind of produced the super ugly decline (the last 8 years) at the end of his career. Imagine how good he could have been if he hit free throws and knew the entire game (not just his game) better.
I remember just before Kobe died , this was after that one on one video they did where they buried the hatchet, Kobe said that if Shaq had worked out the way he did they would have won 12 rings together. Then Shaq got pissed and started posting a bunch of pics of himself destroying people in the paint saying "Does this look lazy?"
Kobe's answer to it was "No. It looks...dominant."
I love Shaq. He brought 3 rings to the Lakers and was the most dominant force in the NBA when he was at his peak. That being said his refusal to work out and watch his weight WAS the reason that he and Kobe fell apart, even though he also called Kobe the "greatest player on the planet" during that same period.
Kobe gets endless hate for a number of things but the break up with Shaq is key among them. Perhaps this beef with Walton will have people see Kobe's side of the beef with a little more clarity.
(I realize I put Kobe and beef together... I think I'll have steak tonight.)
no one can stop shaq...greatest center of all time
He wasn't unstoppable because of skill he was unstoppable because skinny BB players had a hard time moving him from the basket.
@@tednguyen7258try to search someone named Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. 6 championships, 6 MVPs, 2 FMVPs, leading scorer at the time of his retirement, consistently excellent.
Bill walton is honestly one of the most unique stars in league history a finals mvp and league mvp that never truly reached his prime how many players can say that
there's many stars that didn't reach their prime. I agree with Shaq. Bill probably shouldn't be in HOF, and nobody seems to question it. Only a couple of great seasons, whilst in other seasons he played between 30-50 games.
@@griciusI mean it counts college too and Walton is arguably the best college basketball player ever
Derrick Rose for the same reasons unfortunately.
@@sidhenihilist the ring separates the two but yes exactly my thoughts
@@griciuslol if tmac with a terrible career is in the hall of fame then Bill Walton gets in with no difficulty
This seems like an interesting beef but now these two are now analyst. Good to hear Seth again. Been a while but now you're back. You're the man, Seth.
Shaq can be funny but a pretty bad analyst as far as the finer points of the game. His only comment is usually man up and play better. Not exactly Einstein there.
@@GnofgVery true tbh
@@Gnofg precisely, he's one of the worst analysts out there in any sport. He's good on TNT at making the telecast fun, he's actually okay and quite good at times discussing more how to players should conduct themselves on the court, stand up for themselves or one another, but like you said, finer points of the game, lazy as they come. He's more of a fun personality to have on tv and not really an analyst.
The Inside the NBA crew was better without Shaq. He’s fine now, but he is absolutely the Ringo there.
There's nothing surprising about Shaq beefing with another renowned NBA center 😂
People should nickname Shaq the King of Beef.
Stop over commenting, dude
@@juanrr6822Stop under commenting dude
I'm surprised this video didn't mention Shaq's admiration for George Mikan since he and George did appear together here and there. Also, when Mikan died, Shaq was able to pay for his funeral and even stated that "Without number 99 [Mikan], there is no me."
Nonetheless, this was a really good and informative vid. Great work as always Seth!
Also, RIP Bill.
RIP Bill Walton
As big as Shaq is, he has the temperament of a 15 year old high school cheerleader.
But yeah, a healthy Bill Walton is probably an all time top-five center.
The Trailblazers were (easily) cruising to their second straight championship in 1978 before Bill went down.
I was a Seattle SuperSonics fan & you're absolutely right. Portland was 35-6 midway through the season. 50-10 when Walton got hurt. No way was Seattle or anyone else beating them
@@mongoslade277 and another sweep of the Lakers
No-one can argue that Shaq is the most insecure centre of all time
AMEN
100%
Yeah wilt pretty close tho
@@aleksjamnik5360definitely
Idk Embid really insecure
Ayton really insecure
Kat and Gobert really insecure
Mr. Big Sensitive for sure. 😅
He has shown over and over on TBS that he is not that intelligent. Maybe that is the issue, Bill was very smart.
Its TNT. I thought TBS lost the rights to NBA basketball decades ago
I read Phil Jacksons book and understand Shaqs psychology super well because I had a teammate who went really far and almost touched the NBA and he had the same exact mentality. It's like a switch in his head where he goes from generally nice and well meaning to "break you down" mode. I remember watching our AAU B-Team essentially and our other center was having a good game, and all of the sudden my boy's got stank face and hes like "dont compliment that boy for nothing he aint shi ima have to break that boy down"
What's the motivation behind that mindset? Where does it stem from?
@@tomtik101 I'm the biggest in the room and you gotta bow down to me don't criticize My technique when all y'alls advice boils down to is be the biggest in the room. Somebody like Walton who is roughly as big as Shaq nitpicking set him off and flipped that switch from team player to pure hater.
@@tomtik101 Phils book says that he took Shaqs side in every argument versus Kobe cuz kobe was basically telling him to play big and what is Shaq supposed to do? Grow bigger? Nah you treat a big man with kid gloves or risk damaging his ego
@@voiceofreason2674black fragility
Was your teammate also a baby who couldn't handle criticism?
Shaq is like NBA Hulk Hogan. Lots of fans and accolades but also a reputation for having a terrible ego and burying his peers
accurate comparison tbh except that is a better person overall lmao
@@megusta288Especially considering that Hulk Hogan was the one who ratted out Jesse Ventura and the rest of the wrestlers who were trying to unionize during the 80's, and was subsequently rewarded with all of the fame and attention he could handle.
Shaq is mother Teresa compared to that sack of rat droppings
@@whatwelearnedI get what you are trying to say but Mother Teresa was worse than all of the people mentioned lol
Exactly, Mother Teresa was evil.
Putting Carmen Electra with those 0 MVPs and 0 Championships had me rolling 😂
And where is she now? It's all about the ringz!
I guess she was getting dunked in ..oops I meant dunked on 😂😂😂
Shaq is one of the most impactful big men ever, his resume is incredible. He’s done a TON of generous stuff off the floor too. And he’s also consistently been a bully.
He spends some of his time knocking others down, rather than building his own achievements up.
He always says he’s the master marketer - and the fact we talk about him confirms he gets people talking.
But he gets people talking about him in a negative way.
If he’s worried about his legacy on the floor being forgotten as other greats have also been minimised or forgotten, it’s totally understandable. But hounding people only makes people remember him negatively.
Context is very important. I'm gonna say Bill should be in the hall. For his contributions to the sport of basketball in totality. On all levels.
Walton won a rebounding title, a block title, and had two 1st team all-defense selections.
Shaq has a total of (checking notes, oh right) 0 for all of those things. Also, Walton matched Shaq's MVP total, which is understandable for how shortened his prime was, but not understandable for Shaq, really. In fact, it's downright pitiful for someone who played so long with his physical gifts.
So Bill did some things Shaq never did, which are the hallmarks of all the greatest centers. (Which other of the greatest centers never won a rebound or a block title, and never made 1st team all-defense?)
Walton's team won four straight against Kareem's Lakers (when Kareem was league MVP), and then four straight against Dr. J's 76ers (after going down 0-2 in Philly). Shaq is tied for being swept the most times in NBA playoff history.
@TheEsquireofSports.2.0Just because you’re more skilled, doesn’t make you better. If that’s the case, Arvydas Sabonis is the GOAT center and Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady are better than Kobe Bryant.
@TheEsquireofSports.2.0If you replace Shaq with Bill Walton on those Magic teams, his ass would get swepted by Hakeem and Michael Jordan also.
@@Theterminato2013
that's what people thought in 1977
Besides, Shaq had Kobe, who had Walton? good players , great teammates in Portland, but no HoFer
@@Theterminato2013 If there was someone that could defend Hakeem when healthy, that's Walton. Granted, defending Hakeem in the post is like trying to double Jokic. You might succeed, once or twice, but the other 15 times you try you'll get creamed.
Shaq doesn't know the history like we do...
Bill Walton was a very good player, both as a star player and as a role player.
Walton's performances with the Blazers and Celtics were incredible.
If only injuries stayed away from Walton.. He would have more rings on his fingers.. The talent was there 100% the injuries held the talent back..
He is definitely the greatest What If in the NBA. If his body held up, he'd definitely be on the shortlist for greatest ever.
But definitely not hall of fame worthy…
@@wvu05 Yes but Shaq is right because his greatness ended with that first major foot injury. He does not merit hof based on longevity. Walton not only player in hall like that.
@@explorewithme4707 Go listen to Jerry West on the dan patrick show yesterday. Walton is immediately mentioned by Jerry as one of the best.
Walton's inclusion on the list is mostly a nod to his absolute peak. In those 18 months in the late 70's he legitimately was the best player in the league. Absolutely insane on the court and the first person to be better on the court than the godlike Kareem at the time.
Sad he was never able to keep it up, but because those heights are so hard to reach, he's given credence.
If you haven't watched it, Thinking Basketball has a Greatest Peaks series and the Walton episode is great. I never questioned him but that episode really made me look at him even better.
I'm not sure he was ever better than Kareem was he was certainly Top 2
The Trailblazers ruined Walton and have been paying for that decision ever since.
@@MrKT410he swept kareem and outplayed him in his championship season for me he was for atleast one season
He "couldn't keep it up" bc he had a hairline fracture in his foot and played through it..while dominating!
Had Walton played in today's game.. the hairline fracture would've been diagnosed and he couldve been healed. But sadly..he played in a time when injuries like that couldn't be diagnosed.
Shaq being sensitive and petty?!! Nooooooo, who would have thought!
Despite Walton's injuries, they have the same number of MVPs.
Bill Walton was an absolute BEAST!! His NBA career was cut short but he won 2 Championships one of which he was the number one option and won League and finals MVP. Shaq is more accomplished but Walton is VERY underrated.
The only thing that stopped Walton was that freakishly bad health. He's the most underrated center of all time.
I believe Bill Walton was the most talented big man to play the game. If only he could have stayed healthy. Walton’s IQ on the court was off the charts. Even John wooden and Jack Ramsey put Walton at the top center
@padenK Walton's prime was as good if not better than any center to play the game. It's just that his prime lasted about 150 games or so.
I’m starting to think Shaq’s the problem 😅
hahaha starting
When you beef with everyone else, you may be the problem
“You are the common factor in all of your failed relationships.”
I love that quote! But the psych/major social worker in me has to point out how it’s an incorrect way to think about relationships.
Sometimes when a relationship fails, you share the blame with the other party. This is of course the most common. Sometimes it truly is ALL your fault, you did something unforgivable. And on the opposite end, sometimes you do nothing wrong, and the other party screws up royally.
So, saying “you’re the common factor in all of your failed relationships with other humans” is technically true, but it’s true by default. YOUR relationship can’t EXIST without YOU being a factor. So it’s “technically” true but doesn’t stand up to the most basic logical argument. Fun to say tho.
@@jluchette True, but if someone tends to end up either in toxic relationships or having beef with everyone, maybe that person's contribution is looking for the wrong kind of person. I have a relative who complained to me about always ending up with cerifiably crazy women, and I said that maybe there was something about that type that was drawing him in.
@@Rcb4th He's only beefed with Bill Walton, Kobe Bryant, JaVale McGee, and Dwight Howard...hmm, I think I see your point. 😂 (Did I miss anyone?)
Anyone who knows anything about Shaq knows that unless you roll over for him at the slightest bit of disagreement, he will throw a fit over it and say some pretty bad takes about the whole thing. This is the dude who made up a fake beef, nothing is too petty for him.
Lol you know Shaq or do you watch sports like the rest of us? Internet is a crazy place you really think you know this man.
@@gobot581 Pretty much yeah. It ain't rocket science to recognize a big baby and bully.
@@gobot581 Shaq ADMITTED in an interview. that he made fake accusation against David Robinson. there isn’t a limit to where he will go
Nothing is better than a surprise Beef History in the middle of the week
Just saw TNT and was so glad Shaq got over himself and finally squashed his beef with Bill Walton. It means alot that Shaq admit he was being sensitive ❤️ RIP Bill Walton.
It was phony
He called bill Walton trash last month
Bill Walton was at his best when he was announcing NBA games on NBC. Him and Steve 'Snapper' Jones, we're a great duo.
The funny thing to me is that Shaq says way worse about the young guys in the league today than it seems like Bill Walton ever said about him. lol
Oh Bill Walton said worse things than shown here specifically when calling games. Beef History often misses things that add more context. Nearly every vid I see commenters bring things up that should've been mentioned but aren't.
That’s because Shaq is a massive hypocrite
@@CrazyxEnigmaI mean….examples please?
@@CrazyxEnigmaimagine being mad about a nickname. And at the mention of Rick Fox 😂
David Robinson had the best comeback about shaq. when asked about shaqs book he said what is it a picture book?
lolz. Poor david, wasnt he the victim of Shaq's lie about how he didnt sign him an autograph when he came to shaq's school?
Walton and the Admiral hit him where it hurts lol
The admiral had to put up with lies about his character from Shaq. Years later. All Shaq said was kidding… A man of David’s character that simply won’t due. If there dueling was still legal. This would have been pistols at 10 paces. Really wonder who Shaq could get to stand as a second? He burnt so many bridges. Everyone was on the Admirals side. He truly was one of the great Centers a complete two way monster.
RIP Bill Walton....
I bet Shaq will still find something to hate about the Big Redhead and will make it about himself when he gets a chance to talk about Bill Walton.
Damn if you weren’t spot on
@@jaystacks5249 you can just see that coming knowing how sensitive and full of hinself Shaq is…
Bill won a championship and a Finals MVP for the franchise that drafted him, couldn't say the same for Shaq.
Also did what Shaq couldn't. Lead a college team to champs.
good point
Shaq is the 50 Cent of sports beefs 😂
Both were underachievers
@@arizonaFIREenthow?
Without the 9 bullet holes
@@GOODMuzikBoiThere's a decent contingent of people who think Shaq could've been the undisputed GOAT center if he had taken more after Kobes insane work ethic instead of relaxing and chilling in the offseason. They're probably right, but it's still a what if.
Thats a lazy comparison
Shaq is the most delicate flower to ever step foot on a basketball court, hands down.
For someone that claims to have been raised by a disciplinarian and also claims to hate bullies, Shaq really is just the exact opposite of disciplined and respectful. Dudes that bully that wants to be the most liked in the room at anyone else’s expense and will snap at the smallest amount of fight from anyone.
You’re spot on. He alternates between the most wholesome respectful nice guy in the world to extreme petty and bully. This is the same man who has admitted he had to literally create a fictitious beef in his head with David Robinson to motivate himself to go against him. Shaq has admitted he was a bully, even as a youngster. He has said that an experience snapped him out of it as a kid, but it seems he has still kept those same tendencies even as an adult.
Bro Shaq literally beat a kid so bad he went to the hospital and always tells that story
@@thedangerwich5476 he said he beat a kid into an epileptic seizure and left him there convulsing in the dirt.
Every new Shaq Beef makes me look forward to the eventual 5-part hours-long series on Kobe vs Shaq
For a man as big as Shaq, the smallest words seem to offend him
Mr sensitive
If Shaq wasn't huge he wouldn't have been in the NBA and he could never make the 3 point NBA of today.
Bill Walton is a vegetarian and Shaq has done the vegan/vegetarian thing so this is the first episode of plant based imitation beef
My money says Shaq dies young from being overweight.
@Gnofg how disrespectful
@@jamaali2358 I’m just going on what happens to overweight people.
Charles Barkley’s doctor told him that you don’t see old fat people because they die early and that is why Charles is on Ozempic.
Furthermore the height where your size impacts your longevity is 6’3”. Look it up.
Being 7’3 and overweight is a recipe for a early exit.
Shaq is a gift to beef enthusiasts everywhere
RIP Big Bill
You say Walton kept talking about shaq, but he mostly was positive. Only went after shaq a couple times
I don't know what it is about Seth's narration style, but it's just so enjoyable to listen to.
Shaq: I got 4 rings Chuck
Chuck: you also got 4 player beefs (Walton, D-Rob, Kobe and Dwight)
And JaVale McGee
@@EverythingIsGuchiI would consider that bullying 😅
You forgot the time he beefed with his coach - Stan van Gundy
Him and Phil Jackson and I think him and Penny beefed
& David Robinson
So shaq being sensitive once again?
Bill Walton was Tim Duncan before Tim Duncan. Its just sad that he got injured almost 70% of his playing career.
Bill Walton used to compliment Shaq a lot when he did commentary on NBC games
Walton gushes over everybody, that is just his personality, but for several years Shaq was all that.
Shaq often talks about how modern players are too sensitive (he's right btw). But it's crazy to see that given his dramas with Kobe, Dwight, Walton, Robinson & others, that Shaq was just as sensitive as the modern players. I'm a Shaq fan.
But maybe his new nickname should be "The Big Hypocritical"
Modern players aren’t anymore sensitive than past. We just have social media that tells us what they’re saying and doing 24/7. Scottie sat on the bench in 94 because he was mad he had to
Inbound, MJ punched a teammate in the face for challenging him. People have always been people.
No player in league Historyvis more sensitive than Shaq. He made up lied about David Robinson years later he said he was just kidding. Life doesn’t work that way. You own the words you use. It defines your character as a man not become a character.
Had Shaq actually taken Walton's advice on dieting, the NBA world would be so much better right now 😂
Shaq would've definitely gotten at least a few more healthy, prime-formed seasons had he controlled his weight.
His Orlando shape was ideal for him; this whole thing about him reaching his prime with the Lakers thanks to the weight gain is misleading, considering he could've focused on strength training and muscle mass rather than fat and gotten comparable or better results with far less overall mass. There's no magic in this world; no person can healthily carry so much weight while jumping, sprinting, and getting hit for hours daily.
Shaq is in a class of his own take a dude advice that was average at best
@marquiseboyd282 Hall of famer, 2x champion, MVP, and FMVP is average?
@@marquiseboyd282 Average at best? If you want to argue that Shaq had a better career than Walton, sure, but Walton at his peak was as good as anybody. The problem was that his peak just didn't last very long. And did you ever think that, just maybe, because of his experience, Walton knew how injuries could spiral and wanted Shaq to avoid that fate?
@@marquiseboyd282this dude was able to give it to prime Kareem when healthy. Bill Walton is very underrated. May have been one of the best centers of all time if it was for injuries and Portland’s shitty medical team.
Seth talking about some beef....you know it's going to be a good day.
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I think most people who truly understand the basics of center play would agree that few centers have ever embodied the all-around skill set that Walton possessed. Shaq is often funny, but also many times just a hardheaded monster of a man who bullied his way to success. He was so big and so strong he rarely ventured from more than 7 feet from the basket. He is a bit insecure. I'll take the other guys any day over him. Akeem was another marvelous center with amazing athletic ability and a great persona, always smiling.
Bill Walton in his 76-77 year played better than Shaq ever did in a single season. He won MVP, Finals MVP, and led the youngest team in NBA history to ever win an NBA to a championship. Probably the biggest underdog to ever win was his Blazers year when they won it. Shaq needs to respect
Portland’s first and only title
Seth is back!! These are the best
Shaq has always been the most dominant, not only in basketball, but also in pettiness.
There was nothing like watching the NBA on NBC in the early 2000's when the Lakers were on and hearing Bill Walton say "Throw it down big man, Throw It dowwwwwn" after a thunderous Shaq dunk.
dude, you say walton was a low minutes guy for the celtics - he freaking won 6th man of the year! he was a definite and notable contributor to that 86 celtics team.
but of course the bronsexuals will argue he was the 6th man in an era of bums
It has to be said however that Bill Walton's 1986 comeback was a catalyst to the Celtics winning the championship that year. What guy could play right away, limited minutes and produce in a way that made the Celtics win big games? He was subbing for Mchale and Parish. And still played a critical role in that championship season. A game changer. Not to mention his past Blazers glory.
Beef History hits different when Seth narrates
It's weird because of all the sports commentators out there, Walton was the MOST qualified to criticize Shaq. It's a wonder Shaq ever was able to get into broadcasting if he holds grudges against anybody who ever said anything bad about his performances.
That’s why…. because he is the most qualified it just makes shaq more insecure
Eventually we will need a Beef History of Shaq vs. Himself.
I may be too young to speak on this, but for me Bill Walton deserves to be on that list of top 10-15 greatest centers to lace up. 6000 points and 2 all stars are unbelievably low. Seeing him play, you know he definitely had that talent and ability to be that kind of guy and I bet if he'd played even a decade of healthy basketball he'd have 9 all-stars, 2 mvps, at least 20k points and hopefully more rings. We'll never get to see that and it sucks cuz I don't wanna hold that against him
Loved the Carmen Electra stat line 😂
That commercial with Kareem and Wilt is so cool.
8:10 Shaq got some nerve telling Anybody they talk too much 😅😅
Shaq has always been a child. I love the fact that the modern generation of players hate him because of his takes on them.
Shaq was born with a size blessing... that's it. He's not a shooter, he doesn't have good foot work, he's just big and strong. He thinks too highly of himself for his actual skillset.
The Portland championship was the most dominant display of a center by Walton I’ve ever seen. Chocolate thunder was so frustrated he yanked the toilets out of his locker room
Bill Walton led a team to winning a championship by nearly his damn self.
Yep. I dare anyone to watch that series and not be amazed. He was like Jokic. However instead of scoring as much he got like 4 blocks a game and was an absolutely dominant defender.
@@Greenfrom3e played in a weak era. Plus the AbA and the NBA didn’t merge yet. So it wasn’t many games played back then. Bill was great in college but had a horrible NBA career. A lot of player have great first seasons but doesn’t make them a hall of a fame player.
@@Charris2382you're just chattin. Walton has one of the best peaks of all time and that's HOF worthy. Also arguments over era are stupid. I can't wait for the 2000s to be brought up as a weak era
@@Charris2382 Walton's first championship was in the first finals after the merger. The Blazers played against the sixers, lead by Julius Erving who was a former ABA player
Also Walton was the finals mvp
@@Charris2382lmao you really thought you did somethin there 🤣
Walton doesn’t get enough credit as it is, he was a great player. Injuries derailed his legacy.
The best ability is availability. Walton is overrated. Is Walton on the same level as Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, Derrick Rose or Yao Ming? Or is Walton comparable to Greg Oden and Zion Williamson?
@@latinoheateddieguerrero7644he won mvp so same level as Yao and others
@@benweider2658 techincally bill above the level of grant and penny as they never won mvps
@@latinoheateddieguerrero7644 he's kinda like derrick rose except he was actually having an MVP-level peak
@@n8tethegr8t20Derrick Rose won the MVP. The youngest winner ever & has more than 6000 points. Bet he doesn't get in the Basketball HOF
Seth makes this channel special. A great narrator for BEEF 🥩
Rest In Piece Bill Walton.
Just heard what happened… RIP Bill Walton… 😢
Please. We all know Shaq is Mr. Sensitive. This has been proven in TNT's Inside The NBA by Charles Barkley. 🤣
Yayyy Seth’s back.
Finally we get Seth again!
Walton can now haunt Shaq.
Nope, that's not who he is.
Walton, when healthy, led the league in blocked shots and rebounds. Shaq never did either. Walton ran the court, was a great passer, DPOY and MVP. Good man, bad feet.
If you are old enough to have seen Walton play in his prime, you'd know Shaq's crazy.
That prime was only two seasons
Shaq is a loser, let's just say it. He had great teams and won. He didn't do it by himself.
@@serge014 how many seasons did you have?
Who cares if its 2 seasons. He won a ring, finals mvp and regular season mvp. How many people in the HOF played 10 plus years without getting one of those?
@0005cd on a team stacked with Larry Bird, Kevin Mchale, Robert Parrish, Dennis Johnson, not a big feat!
Walton easily could’ve been as good as or better than Shaq, but he literally couldn’t attempt a shot without getting hurt. There’s a fantastic video about the peak version of him in Portland by Thinking Basketball, it’s highly worth the watch. He was uniquely dominant during that time.
He wouldn't have been as good as shaq lets stop that discussion. But he would've entered that top 8 discussion in the center position (the most decorated position)
@@bonystickmanking1250 He absolutely could have been better than shaq. Walton was stupidly good when healthy.
@@Jarekthegamingdragon "absolutely could have been better than shaq" is a ABSOLUTELY hypothetical and unprovable statement so why even make it. If I was 7 foot and could hoop I could have been the greatest ever. Now what.
@@maxmeier532 😭😭😭fax
@@Jarekthegamingdragon shaq was as pretty decent when healthy man, just pretty decent. Not the most dominant player ever with the best looking stats you could ever ask for any player while being the running engine in one of the greatest offensive schemes ever winning 3 rings in a row as the best player in the world 🤷🏾♂️
Yao Ming is in the hall of fame, but I don't recall Shaq ever having a problem with him. Ming scored at a higher rate than Walton over the course of his career, but I don't recall Ming being on championship winning teams or winning MVP awards or being the NBA's rebounding or blocks leader.
very good point.
He played against Yao Ming and couldn’t body him like everyone else.
I think Shaq respected Ming.
@@16ktsgamma idk he did say ching ching chong about him
Except for that bit where he was racist
As much as I like Shaq, his disrespect towards Walton has always been embarrassingly insecure, doltish, and childlike.
If there's anyone I would take advice from about foot and ankle injuries as a professional basketball center, it's Bill Walton. The man won two championships with the worst ankles in the NBA.
Shaq has soo many Beef Historys they should be released as a Netflix Series. 😂😂😂
Secret Base can probably put together a Shaq compilation of ppl he beefed with and it will genuinely almost always involve some “slight” or insecurity complex against someone who somehow threatened Shaq’s legacy without ever actually threatening how great he was.
At this point, Shaq should have his own playlist on SB Nation.
Rest In Peace Bill Walton.
Hippie Bill Is A *LEGEND* ☮️
Shaq is the softest bigman ive ever seen. Small mentality in a big body
if you have "big" mentality you fix up cars making 40 grand a year. Why would you strive for money and fame if you were happy and satisfied with yourself.
@@maxmeier532 flexing another man money and fame your so sad