While I love Clayton's "making the case" videos, I think this type is much more suited to his storytelling, where he does not have to make long arguments or debate greatness, but just be romantic about basketball.
You’re clueless, Walton along with Wilty was the goat. No one else could do all areas of basketball as those two. Then comes Bird. Jordan was a ballhog, couldn’t dribble or pass and never rebounded. Jordan would not have even been allowed to play in the old days since he palmed and carried the basketball every time he dribbled. Traveled a lot also.etc.
Plus they changed the rules for Jordan. In the old days he would not have been allowed to go into the paint. And the refs called everything for Jordan.
I hope that Clayton gets to be on a basketball podcast like Thinking Basketball or Bill Simmons's Book of Basketball Podcast because having these kinds of discussions would be so good.
@@manbo1213 Bill Simmons is one of the most knowledgeable basketball historians in the public eye. He's a shameless homer but his understanding is without question.
Here after Bill’s death. This is one of your most captivating and well-made videos, thank you for sharing a story that would otherwise go unknown by thousands. RIP Bill Walton.
The fact says he didn’t have those other 10 or 12 years. He’s not in the category of legend he didn’t play long enough to be a legend. That’s the facts
@@customcal1”a remarkable player who tells a player who enthralls us.” He certainly fits into that. In addition he is on the Mount Rushmore of college basketball with his multiple championships and player of the year awards. Counting college there is no other way to describe him apart from legend.
I’m so glad to have found someone who talks about more then “ who’s better? What were their stats? How many championships?”. The ending bit with Walton and Bird is such a wonderful piece of storytelling and gives me so much appreciation for the narratives sports can bring us. Thank you Clayton, and well done. Edit: I can’t wait to see ones for Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Kevin Garnett, Hakeem Olajuwon and so many more.
Bill Walton is a fascinating “what if?”. Walton was incredible at his peak. I highly recommend Thinking Basketball’s video on him to learn even more about how good Walton was at his peak.
It is. However we do know what was. Albeit such a short time. But as great a collegian as there was. And a legit MVP, champion and primary difference maker at UCLA and then Portland. He also anchored a strong 2nd unit at Boston late in his career. His teammates know and appreciate the force he was there as well.
What a great player, competitor and interesting human. The fact he could play in 86 was a miracle. His level of play and durability that year was impossible to believe. The fact he spent the night at Larry's house celebrating and basking in the presence of another basketball savant and good friend is a great ending to a short but fabulous career of one of the greatest Centers to ever play the game. That championship trail blazer team with Maurice Lukas was incredible and they were even better the following year until Bill was hurt. He was a player that made everybody better. A real force multiplier.
Bill Walton was special. His passing, his vision and his abilities were incredible. Took a little bit of Russell’s philosophy and led his team to a championship with great defence and playmaking with minimal shots needed from himself. Walton trusted his team enough to shoot these shots. I love guys like Jordon and chamberlain but players like Russell and Walton who learned early to pass the ball, idk they stick out to me a little bit more. No disrespect to the guys I’ve just mentioned at all. They are incredible scorers and crush Russell and Walton in this. But in playmaking and trusting your teammates, I’d say they were just a little better. Great video and I love the series already
That's what makes Larry Bird so incredible. He was an Elite scorer that was capable of giving anyone 40+, but he dominated the boards, was one of the first "Point Forwards" with some of the greatest passes we've ever seen & before the injuries, he could defend with the best of them. He was the guy that would go diving for the lose ball or find a way to beat Hakeem for a jump ball. I've always had a lot of love for the guys that can do it all like that. It's why I've enjoyed watching old LeBron way more than young LeBron.
@@pewpewTN I still enjoy watching bird’s offense over any version of LeBron because of how he doesn’t even need that much time with the ball in his hands. And luckily enough some Coca Cola addict from Serbia brings this kind of basketball back.
@@dwightlove3704 You need to take 3 seconds to get your facts straight. Larry Bird was All-Defense 3 times. 82-84. No idea where you got 87 being the only year. He didn't make any after his injury.
As a dude with a stutter, Bill Walton is a huge inspiration for me cus he overcame his stutter and became a sports commentator. I know it’s a pretty minor thing but still means a lot to me.
This video legit brought me to a few tears. My old man, RIP, he loved Bill Walton. I love Bill Walton. I had his Celtics poster in my room growing up. I have wished for years that the average fan would appreciate how great he was, and he really was taken down by injuries.
Bill walton wonNBA championship 1976/ 1977 beating l.a. laker / kareeem abdul jabber 4/ 0 ; boston 1986 great role center ;; sandy koufax had a brillant pitching career but very short
When healthy Bill was a force to be dealt with period, R.F...we both saw what he was and what he was able to do, for every guy that has negative thing to say about Bil we know due to his medical issues it was what it was and unlike these current players, he actually had reason as to why he didn't play.
Clayton, I don’t know if you realize what is happening here, but I’ll tell you. You aren’t just making fun UA-cam videos anymore. You’re becoming a filmmaker. What this is is a truly beautiful short documentary film. It’s not just a solid argument. It’s not just engaging or entertaining. It’s poignant. It’s heartbreaking. It’s moving. It’s beautiful. I think this is your best work, and I can’t wait to see what you do next. Bravo, sir!
I started playing and watching basketball in the mid '60s, Wilt, Kareem, Bill Russell and Walton were by far the best centers of that era. When Walton was healthy nobody could stop his game. He fit in perfectly with the Celtics. I'd love to see Pistol Pete playing with Walton and Bird during their primes. It would have been beautiful...
Much is made about how the college kids lost to the Russians but the reality is they just ran into Sabonis. Walton called him a 7’3” Larry Bird. It’s amazing how their careers with injuries paralleled each other.
@@blakekeithley3400 guys like them seem to be glitches in the matrix, getting injured after the system realizes they shouldn't be running and jumping around
Walton always called Sabonis the 2nd greatest high school player in history, right after Jabbar. Too bad Sabonis was not schooled under Smith or Wooden and then played his entire career in the NBA.
unlike baseball, Basketball actually rewards the best players in the game. Walton is in the basketball HOF. He only played a handful of full seasons. He was hurt all the time, but he's in the HOF for what he did when he wasn't hurt. Walton was averaging 18 PPG, 14 Rebounds, and 5 assists, 1 steal, and 3 blocks per game when he was at his peak. All around brilliance from one of the great centers of all time.
You make some of the most cinematic, emotional basketball mini documentaries I've ever seen. I can't believe you haven't been hired by 30:30 or E60 yet
I loved Bill Walton because of my dad. We lived in Vancouver, WA, across the river from Portland just a couple miles, so they were our team instead of the Sonics in 1976 when they won the championship. In 1977, my dad got a job just north of Seattle when the Blazers and Sonics both made the finals. It was awesome. The Pacific NW never had any professional trophies until then. Both the Seattle Mariners and the Seahawks were brand new expansion teams in 1977 and 1978, so before that, basketball was it. And of course both of them sucked for years. I remember walking into the brand new Kingdoms for the first time when I was 7 years old. So yeah, Bill Walton had a huge impact on a little boy back then. Thanks so much for creating this video. It means a lot.
This is a top notch history lesson. Bill Walton lived up to all expectations! Even though the injuries dampened his career, he took the cards he was dealt and made the best of them.
Clayton, because I saw this video when it came out, I was emotional when Bill Walton passed away. Thanks for telling this story so well. RIP Bill Walton
Per 36 min, that championship year with the Celtics, Walton averaged 14pts 13reb 4ast 2.5 blk. 33yr old with major injuries and way past his prime. What a nice finish to his career. At his peak per 36, he was 20pts 14reb 5ast 4blk. Solid scorer, great passer for a center, great rebounder and great defensive player. He would certainly be top 20 all time discussion, maybe even better.
Honestly I already do have him top 20 or 25 all time. Part of greatness is legacy, and Walton left a legacy of playing the right way. There’s something awesome about that.
@@sgrey9181 If you value 'legacy', then sure he is top 25 especially if you include his college play. I don't put that much into 'legacy' but I do put some value in that I certainly have him top 50 and maybe top 40.
Great job. Loved Bill as a UCLA Bruin and and as a Boston Celtic. His 77 season with the Trailblazers also affirmed as a b-ball great. Yes, What if? But also what was!
I remember when the NBA 75th Anniversary team was announced, tons of people were saying Bill Walton shouldn’t have made it. Saying he was injured too often, and only had “4 good seasons”. Meanwhile Walton had accomplished more in one season than several of the players people claimed were snubbed from the 75th Anniversary team.
MVP Finals MVP 6'th Man of the year. It's a mighty short list to accumulate THAT list of hardware. I do agree though, that he was marginal for the 50 year team (do keep in mind that EVERY member of the 50 team also made the 75 team) given his very short "effective" career - but he had a better case than SHAQ did to be on that team.
I was 28, living south of Boston in ‘86, saw a lot of Celtic’s basketball over the years, but that’s the year that I’ll remember the most. Knew Bill was playing on borrowed time and that that one year was pretty much all we’d ever see, but what a glorious year it was. Never saw a team play so well, so in sync, and having so much fun at the same time. Thanks for telling Bill’s story with such warmth.
Bro you got me crying over here. Walton has always been one of my favorite players and this just solidified why. Thank you for this, Clayton. Thank you.
I was fortunate to be at University of Oregon during the Walton-UCLA era and attended all the home games. The 2 lost regular season games his senior year were to Oregon and Oregon State on the same weekend. These were the days of no 3 point line, no shot clock, no dribbling with your hand on the side or underneath the ball, and leaving school early for the draft. Walton was an inconsistent player due to smoking grass to help alleviate the constant pain he was in. When he was on his game, he was the best center I ever saw. This included watching Kareem live while at Wazzu. Here was what I saw. He would go for a rebound and would wait above the rim for the ball to come off, snatching it, on the brink of goal tend every time. On his way down with the ball, he was already looking down court and starting to pass the ball before landing. Many times during the game, he would just tip a pass into the basket, even with his back to the basket. When he would get 3 fouls knowing the next would send him to the bench, he just elevated his defense to another level and never fouled out. As a defender, he could place himself in a perfect position on a driving opponent that eliminated every possible shot the shooter had. When I played pick-up ball against a smaller or slower player, my goal was to defend like Walton. Managed to do it just a couple of times. Along with all this and the ability to run the court with the guards, he was a pin point passer. He could palm the ball and pass with just a flick of the wrist, hit a player under the hoop with amazing accuracy.
What a fine entertaining and informative production this is. What a beast Bill Walton was on the court for several years before his devastating injuries that plagued much of his career, until the '86 season with the Celtics.
Arvydas Sabonis has a legitimate claim for the greatest "What if?" as well. If he was able to come over in 86 when he was drafted before his body gave out he might have been able to change the basketball landscape in the Jordan era.
This actually made me tear up a little. Damn injuries stripped us of his potential but thank God Bill was able to accomplish so much in such a short amount of time.
Walton is the classic case for why people can't just look at stats to define someone. Walton had so much more of an impact on the court than a guy who scored a career best 19 ppg. He was the 70's version of Tim Duncan. He didn't score a ton of points, but was an anchor whose teams just won when he was healthy. Plus passer, efficient scorer, great rebounder, underrated shot blocker, and the rare pivot man that elevated the cast of characters around him. Even Jabbar couldn't say that...he was a better individual player, but couldn't do what Walton did with that 77 Blazers team. And the 78 Blazers team is along with the 73 Celtics, the biggest injury what if team in NBA history. Walton won the MVP despite only playing 58 games...Portland was 50-10 and absolutely cruising towards a repeat title. Head and shoulders better than anyone in the league when he got hurt against Philly. 49-9 with him and 11-19 without him including the six game Western semis loss to Seattle. And basically robbed of his prime with his feet injuries.
I have always thought this since the 44pt UCLA game. Had I done sports documentaries this is exactly the one I would have done. At least, unlike the tragedy of Bo Jackson, Walton had his day. My favorite guy in basketball.
Best college player I've ever seen. Best bank shot, best rebounder, best passing big man, best shot blocker, incredible at reading the floor, team leader. Kareem was second-best.
I have great respect for the talent of Bill Walton. Because of what he did even thru an injury filled career. Definitely the biggest What If in NBA history
Bill Walton was actually that good. And then a gigantic "what if he was able to stay healthy his entire career" He would have been included in every discussion of the goat.
I was fortunate to grow up being able to watch him play, I always had great respect for Bill. As a Celtics fan I was so happy when he joined the team and watched the entire 86 season. Bill was an incredibly gifted player and I hope he is playing pain free right now. RIP Bill.
I can’t give you enough “Thumbs Ups” for this video. You brought me all the way back to when I saw Walton play ridiculously well with Larry. Walton was that guy in College. I wish he could have had a longer NBA career
@@kingofnewyork7765 Appreciate you for remembering that. My appreciation goes way beyond the court (and he was otherworldly there). He was one of my Grandfather’s heroes and I learned about him at a very early age. Grandpa was a Black man that had no love for the city of Boston, but was a huge fan of both Russell and Red Auerbach.
I followed his career at UCLA so , I had to follow him at Portland and when he was healthy Walton was incredible. Fantastic passer , shot blocker and when he wanted scorer too.
Portland native here. My favorite Walton story is from after the championship in ‘77. The victory parade was happening downtown. Members of the team were speaking at the podium to the crowd. Walton gets up, announces that someone stole his bicycle, describes the bicycle, and asks for help locating it. Rumor is, he spent considerable time searching for it after the parade. Various locals still have stories about being at the parade and being approached by Bill asking after his missing bicycle.
Another Portland native here, and my recollection is that the bicycle eventually showed up. He also routinely played in pick-up games in a park in NW PDX, high level games (a lot of off-season college and good high school players) but open to anyone who dared walk on.
Don, Thanks for sharing about those pickup games! I was born shortly after Bill left the Blazers so I only have second hand accounts. I also neglected the happy ending that Bill was reunited with his bicycle. Apparently he is an avid cyclist still to this day.
@@donbaccus2074 Wallace Park, right? I remember him wearing that shirt. The best team that only 12,666 saw each night. I'm so glad I was lucky enough to witness the best passing/fast break team in the history of the NBA. People just have no idea that Bill was THAT good. He was. Unfortunately he was born with abnormally high arches in his feet, which were the source of all his other injuries.
Walton was the best passing, most intelligent center I ever saw when he was healthy. That year he had in Portland was amazing. One of the best any center ever had.
EXCELLENT video. Well done. That ‘74 season as a 12 year-old (and a junior high b-baller myself) was my first recollection of college basketball and I idolized Bill Walton. I remember both the Notre Dame loss and watching the North Carolina State loss and being so disappointed.
I got to watch Bill Walton play college ball whenever a U.C.L.A. game come on tv in lndiana , born in 1962 l was just a young kid but a baller , Walton was a complete fundamentally sound team lst player , l loved how he used the backboard on turn around shots , l would take a ball to the school yard & practice my bank shot for hours , l watched how he blocked out & used his arms to clear out opponents for rebounds , l would copy his fundamentals for my game . Felt bad when l watched Notre Dame end their 88 game win streak , bottom line in Walton was a force at U.C.L.A. & that's how l remember Bill . Another force in college but injuries hampered his pro game was Austin Carr Notre Dame .
He has an incredible appreciation for other great players and teams. He will go and on about Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Baylor, Barry, Dr J, Pistol Pete, Shaq like he's a fan himself. Cause he is. Doesn't ooze jealousy or envy toward other greats. Though we know he can't help but wonder what may have been in his own case.
I heard that Bill and Larry really were not particularly close off the court. They went their own way. Still, in 1986 they were teammates on one of the greatest teams in Celtic and NBA history.
100% agree about Walton being the biggest "What If?" I can't help but wonder how much his injury woes all trace back to the fall at Washington St. He has to wear a back brace in its aftermath, which maybe alters the way he jumps or moves, which leads to a foot injury, which makes him shoot differently, which leads to a finger injury, etc. Compensating for one injury leads to the next. If there was some way to stop the first domino in that chain from toppling, how much different could his career have been? I always think of the great NBA centers as "The Magnificent Seven:" Abdul-Jabbar, Chamberlain, Malone, O'Neal, Olajuwon, Robinson, and Russell. If Bill Walton had just had a normal level of injuries, I think that would unquestionably be a group of eight great centers, and Walton would be right there among them...
One of the very best college players ever. God knows how great he could have been without the injuries. He was a great passer, he could shoot, rebound and block shots.
I couldn't believe his insistence that he was 6'11'". He would appear in photos where he towered over Kareem and Shaq. He was at a Kings game in Sacto doing color, and the announcer asked him, "So I'm 6'2" and you seem about a foot taller than me, how tall are you really?" Bill held strong, "I'm 6'11"."
Such a fabulous story, beautifully told in your inimitable style - brought a tear to my eye - so evocative, and a fantastic flood of memories of Walton, Bird, UCLA, the Blazers, Wooden, Auerbach and the Celtics - many many thanks mate
I wasnt alive back then, but as a San Diegan, I dont think it was his false that clippers left, it was the team owner, and mentioned in one video, the team owner said, "Clippers will never leave San Diego" and the NBA even prohibited Clippers to move to a differnt city, but he still moved to LA. I wonder how it felt when a team, that played the sport you love the most, goes to your home city, and plays. But then leaves. It would have been really fun to watch the Clippers play in San Diego to this day.
One of the things I remember about that 1986 Finals was Walton's tackle of Ralph Sampson during a brawl. Sampson himself would become one of the game's great "what-ifs".
Ralph just never had the level of "fire" to be one of the Top Tier. He was skilled enough and had enough raw ability to make the next tier down, but didn't have that "competitive instinct" level to make the final level.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 i hear ralph sampson problem he never master nothing like skyhook shot ;; in NBA must have go to move ; jabber could shoot skyhook at any angle around the basket plus other moves around the basket dunk : turnaround jumper etc etc ; plus knee problem very tall 7 foot basketball have problem in NBA
@@lloydkline1518 It was WILT had the knee surgery, not Kareem. But yes, many 7+ footers do end up with issues in their feet or knees fairly quickly. Sampson's real issue though was that he just didn't have the level of internal FIRE of the greatest players. Game 6 of the 1986 Finals was a SHOWCASE of that issue.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 i said you tube counles countless of time wilt had knee surgery in early 1969 sgortly after playing jabber first time wilt was over the hill / old years past his primes :: ralph sampson had mult knees surgery on both knee ;; rallph sampson was suppose to be great very very 7 NBA basketball have problems
What a phenomenal job you did putting this story together! You captured the essence of Walton beautifully within the way you rode the wave of his life story. You can feel Walton in your video. Thank you for such an amazing work of art
Your takes on these incredible players and teams are beyond amazing and show a deep respect for the game. Actually gives me deeper respect for the game- especially as I knew it int the 70's and 80's. Bill was a favorite in 70's, despite being a Celts fan since birth...how great a gift when he joined the best team, ever. Brought here by the Bird content. Sub'd
Great to see this. Have been saying this for 40 years. When he took over a game, it was over. The other team might as well go home. Literally no weaknesses.
In a sea of similar NBA content, where I thought I almost had seen it all, this series is an incredible breath of fresh air. We need more stories, and less stats.
Man. What an amazing video Clayton. Easily one of the best you've ever put out. Thank you. Your take on basketball is undeniably refreshing and the way you present the awesome stories of NBA history is unparalleled on the UA-cam space, save for some of the stuff SB Nation put out. I hope your balls stay ever smoothed with the sponsor of today's video, Manscaped. Manscaped is the all in one men's hygiene brand to keep your balls in tip top shape
RIP Big Red. My favorite video/subject ever. I hope I did him proud.
I know you did. He would've loved and been humbled by the job you did.
You did
❤️ bill Walton my hero
RIP Bill.
You did a great job, Clayton. I love your deep dives of the greats just outside of the top ten.
Came back here after Bill Walton sadly passed away today. Rest in peace, legend.
Me too 🙂🙃
While I love Clayton's "making the case" videos, I think this type is much more suited to his storytelling, where he does not have to make long arguments or debate greatness, but just be romantic about basketball.
100% agree
You're right. His propensity for dramatic storytelling is perfect for this type of video.
Right. If you feel you have to make a case for BW; then you are clearly ignorant of the man's deeds. One of the virtuosos to ever lace 'em up.
You’re clueless, Walton along with Wilty was the goat. No one else could do all areas of basketball as those two. Then comes Bird. Jordan was a ballhog, couldn’t dribble or pass and never rebounded. Jordan would not have even been allowed to play in the old days since he palmed and carried the basketball every time he dribbled. Traveled a lot also.etc.
Plus they changed the rules for Jordan. In the old days he would not have been allowed to go into the paint. And the refs called everything for Jordan.
Clayton’s content is the definition of quality over quantity.
Love when he uploads something new, ball is love ❤️
These are up there with Joe Vincent mini documentaries
I hope that Clayton gets to be on a basketball podcast like Thinking Basketball or Bill Simmons's Book of Basketball Podcast because having these kinds of discussions would be so good.
Clayton’s knowledge would be wasted talking to Bill Simmons lol
Imagine Ben Taylor and Clayton on a podcast, wow
Simmons is a hack
@@manbo1213 Bill Simmons is one of the most knowledgeable basketball historians in the public eye. He's a shameless homer but his understanding is without question.
Clayton reminds me so much of Kyle Man on the Ringer
Here after Bill’s death. This is one of your most captivating and well-made videos, thank you for sharing a story that would otherwise go unknown by thousands. RIP Bill Walton.
I only wish I had 10% of Bill's positivity. He always seems to be thrilled to live the life he has.
amen, he was in horrifying amounts of pain from his injuries for most of his adult life and you'd never know it.
Do more LSD
@@MisterCrookedNoseBill would probably say that.
came to pay my respects. RIP to the legend
YES
I don’t think there’s any doubt at all, a healthy Bill Walton would have set the league on fire for the next 10 to 12 years. Great video… Thank you
The fact says he didn’t have those other 10 or 12 years. He’s not in the category of legend he didn’t play long enough to be a legend. That’s the facts
@@customcal1”a remarkable player who tells a player who enthralls us.” He certainly fits into that. In addition he is on the Mount Rushmore of college basketball with his multiple championships and player of the year awards. Counting college there is no other way to describe him apart from legend.
@@customcal1He played long enough. Terrifically skilled. He won one title in the 70s, same as Kareem.
Coming here after his death. Rest in peace, Bill Walton 🐐❤️
I’m so glad to have found someone who talks about more then “ who’s better? What were their stats? How many championships?”. The ending bit with Walton and Bird is such a wonderful piece of storytelling and gives me so much appreciation for the narratives sports can bring us. Thank you Clayton, and well done.
Edit: I can’t wait to see ones for Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Kevin Garnett, Hakeem Olajuwon and so many more.
yeah,man, Wild Turkey
No one could say that Walton was greater than Jabbar. Bit it would have been great to have seen those two battle it out for a long time.
@@timgerringer2741 for 2 years he was at least his equal.
@@timgerringer2741John wooden UCLA's coach is the one that said he would take Walton over jabbar. Of course both being healthy.
@@timgerringer2741In his prime he was greater and fun to watch.
I got to meet Bill Walton twice, many years apart. Amazing to me is he remembered me from many years earlier!
Bill Walton is a fascinating “what if?”. Walton was incredible at his peak. I highly recommend Thinking Basketball’s video on him to learn even more about how good Walton was at his peak.
Shameless plug for another guy's channel in the comments lol
@@caleb4538 why shameless? its a totally legit recommendation
thats his second account i think lol or 3rd cause ik a few where they all sound excalty like clay
@@caleb4538 that’s a new phrase
It is. However we do know what was. Albeit such a short time. But as great a collegian as there was. And a legit MVP, champion and primary difference maker at UCLA and then Portland.
He also anchored a strong 2nd unit at Boston late in his career. His teammates know and appreciate the force he was there as well.
What a great player, competitor and interesting human. The fact he could play in 86 was a miracle. His level of play and durability that year was impossible to believe. The fact he spent the night at Larry's house celebrating and basking in the presence of another basketball savant and good friend is a great ending to a short but fabulous career of one of the greatest Centers to ever play the game. That championship trail blazer team with Maurice Lukas was incredible and they were even better the following year until Bill was hurt. He was a player that made everybody better. A real force multiplier.
Bill Walton was special. His passing, his vision and his abilities were incredible. Took a little bit of Russell’s philosophy and led his team to a championship with great defence and playmaking with minimal shots needed from himself. Walton trusted his team enough to shoot these shots. I love guys like Jordon and chamberlain but players like Russell and Walton who learned early to pass the ball, idk they stick out to me a little bit more. No disrespect to the guys I’ve just mentioned at all. They are incredible scorers and crush Russell and Walton in this. But in playmaking and trusting your teammates, I’d say they were just a little better.
Great video and I love the series already
That's what makes Larry Bird so incredible.
He was an Elite scorer that was capable of giving anyone 40+, but he dominated the boards, was one of the first "Point Forwards" with some of the greatest passes we've ever seen & before the injuries, he could defend with the best of them.
He was the guy that would go diving for the lose ball or find a way to beat Hakeem for a jump ball.
I've always had a lot of love for the guys that can do it all like that.
It's why I've enjoyed watching old LeBron way more than young LeBron.
@@pewpewTN Bird made ALL NBA DEFENSE SECOND TEAM IN '87 ONLY ONCE
@@pewpewTN I still enjoy watching bird’s offense over any version of LeBron because of how he doesn’t even need that much time with the ball in his hands. And luckily enough some Coca Cola addict from Serbia brings this kind of basketball back.
@@dwightlove3704 You need to take 3 seconds to get your facts straight.
Larry Bird was All-Defense 3 times.
82-84.
No idea where you got 87 being the only year.
He didn't make any after his injury.
@@pewpewTN Was it FIRST OR SECOND TEAM
As a dude with a stutter, Bill Walton is a huge inspiration for me cus he overcame his stutter and became a sports commentator. I know it’s a pretty minor thing but still means a lot to me.
I'd say that's more than a minor accomplishment. Good on him, I did not know that. Cheers
When he was healthy he was one of the best centers ever. However injuries derailed his career. He was a beauty to watch. Excellent fundamentals!
He wasn't healthy. End of story. You sportsball sycophants love to glorify these man children who play games.
This video legit brought me to a few tears. My old man, RIP, he loved Bill Walton. I love Bill Walton. I had his Celtics poster in my room growing up. I have wished for years that the average fan would appreciate how great he was, and he really was taken down by injuries.
To be great, you have to play. Walton didn't play. End of discussion.
Bill walton wonNBA championship 1976/ 1977 beating l.a. laker / kareeem abdul jabber 4/ 0 ; boston 1986 great role center ;; sandy koufax had a brillant pitching career but very short
When healthy Bill was a force to be dealt with period, R.F...we both saw what he was and what he was able to do, for every guy that has negative thing to say about Bil we know due to his medical issues it was what it was and unlike these current players, he actually had reason as to why he didn't play.
@@mja91352He played enough to judge his play.
Clayton, I don’t know if you realize what is happening here, but I’ll tell you. You aren’t just making fun UA-cam videos anymore. You’re becoming a filmmaker. What this is is a truly beautiful short documentary film. It’s not just a solid argument. It’s not just engaging or entertaining. It’s poignant. It’s heartbreaking. It’s moving. It’s beautiful. I think this is your best work, and I can’t wait to see what you do next. Bravo, sir!
Walton was an absolutely amazing player who could do everything. If he had healthy wheels he would be an all time great.
I started playing and watching basketball in the mid '60s, Wilt, Kareem, Bill Russell and Walton were by far the best centers of that era. When Walton was healthy nobody could stop his game. He fit in perfectly with the Celtics. I'd love to see Pistol Pete playing with Walton and Bird during their primes. It would have been beautiful...
An episode on arvydas sabonis would be interesting, even if it’s hard to get too much film of him he is absolutely a legend.
Man Portland and their many “what ifs” lol
Much is made about how the college kids lost to the Russians but the reality is they just ran into Sabonis. Walton called him a 7’3” Larry Bird.
It’s amazing how their careers with injuries paralleled each other.
@@blakekeithley3400 guys like them seem to be glitches in the matrix, getting injured after the system realizes they shouldn't be running and jumping around
he was a beast
Walton always called Sabonis the 2nd greatest high school player in history, right after Jabbar. Too bad Sabonis was not schooled under Smith or Wooden and then played his entire career in the NBA.
unlike baseball, Basketball actually rewards the best players in the game. Walton is in the basketball HOF. He only played a handful of full seasons. He was hurt all the time, but he's in the HOF for what he did when he wasn't hurt.
Walton was averaging 18 PPG, 14 Rebounds, and 5 assists, 1 steal, and 3 blocks per game when he was at his peak.
All around brilliance from one of the great centers of all time.
24 in 77.
You make some of the most cinematic, emotional basketball mini documentaries I've ever seen. I can't believe you haven't been hired by 30:30 or E60 yet
Rest in piece Bill Walton ❤️
RIP Bill - A true legend
I loved Bill Walton because of my dad. We lived in Vancouver, WA, across the river from Portland just a couple miles, so they were our team instead of the Sonics in 1976 when they won the championship. In 1977, my dad got a job just north of Seattle when the Blazers and Sonics both made the finals. It was awesome. The Pacific NW never had any professional trophies until then. Both the Seattle Mariners and the Seahawks were brand new expansion teams in 1977 and 1978, so before that, basketball was it. And of course both of them sucked for years. I remember walking into the brand new Kingdoms for the first time when I was 7 years old. So yeah, Bill Walton had a huge impact on a little boy back then. Thanks so much for creating this video. It means a lot.
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This is a top notch history lesson. Bill Walton lived up to all expectations! Even though the injuries dampened his career, he took the cards he was dealt and made the best of them.
Clayton, because I saw this video when it came out, I was emotional when Bill Walton passed away. Thanks for telling this story so well. RIP Bill Walton
Per 36 min, that championship year with the Celtics, Walton averaged 14pts 13reb 4ast 2.5 blk. 33yr old with major injuries and way past his prime. What a nice finish to his career. At his peak per 36, he was 20pts 14reb 5ast 4blk. Solid scorer, great passer for a center, great rebounder and great defensive player. He would certainly be top 20 all time discussion, maybe even better.
Honestly I already do have him top 20 or 25 all time. Part of greatness is legacy, and Walton left a legacy of playing the right way. There’s something awesome about that.
@@sgrey9181 If you value 'legacy', then sure he is top 25 especially if you include his college play. I don't put that much into 'legacy' but I do put some value in that I certainly have him top 50 and maybe top 40.
Great job. Loved Bill as a UCLA Bruin and and as a Boston Celtic. His 77 season with the Trailblazers also affirmed as a b-ball great. Yes, What if? But also what was!
I remember when the NBA 75th Anniversary team was announced, tons of people were saying Bill Walton shouldn’t have made it. Saying he was injured too often, and only had “4 good seasons”. Meanwhile Walton had accomplished more in one season than several of the players people claimed were snubbed from the 75th Anniversary team.
MVP
Finals MVP
6'th Man of the year.
It's a mighty short list to accumulate THAT list of hardware.
I do agree though, that he was marginal for the 50 year team (do keep in mind that EVERY member of the 50 team also made the 75 team) given his very short "effective" career - but he had a better case than SHAQ did to be on that team.
Without a shadow of a doubt, Clayton Crowley is THE best NBA historian we have on UA-cam.
Thank you for your work.
I was 28, living south of Boston in ‘86, saw a lot of Celtic’s basketball over the years, but that’s the year that I’ll remember the most. Knew Bill was playing on borrowed time and that that one year was pretty much all we’d ever see, but what a glorious year it was. Never saw a team play so well, so in sync, and having so much fun at the same time. Thanks for telling Bill’s story with such warmth.
25:51 Poetic Man R.I.P BIG BILL WALTON
Bro you got me crying over here. Walton has always been one of my favorite players and this just solidified why. Thank you for this, Clayton. Thank you.
Came back to this after hearing about Waltons Passing. THANK YOU, BIG BILL WALTON R.I.P
my fave player ever.... won 134 straight games in HS-UCLA
he was an anomaly, a talent far ahead of his time.
Had to revisit this gem. The ending with Bill Walton just soaking in the post championship bliss in Bird's kitchen is everything
Clayton, you never stop surprising us, the storytelling, the content, structure... This episode was amazing, I actually cried. Bless you
I’m so glad you mentioned Walton was significantly taller than his listed height, dude was a giant
"Didn't want to be thought of as a seven footer"
❤️ bill walton too
Tf are you talking about...he's 6-11
@@mvgsports nah he was easily taller than that in his prime. Either that or alot of players are shorter than their listed heigh s
I was fortunate to be at University of Oregon during the Walton-UCLA era and attended all the home games. The 2 lost regular season games his senior year were to Oregon and Oregon State on the same weekend. These were the days of no 3 point line, no shot clock, no dribbling with your hand on the side or underneath the ball, and leaving school early for the draft. Walton was an inconsistent player due to smoking grass to help alleviate the constant pain he was in. When he was on his game, he was the best center I ever saw. This included watching Kareem live while at Wazzu. Here was what I saw. He would go for a rebound and would wait above the rim for the ball to come off, snatching it, on the brink of goal tend every time. On his way down with the ball, he was already looking down court and starting to pass the ball before landing. Many times during the game, he would just tip a pass into the basket, even with his back to the basket. When he would get 3 fouls knowing the next would send him to the bench, he just elevated his defense to another level and never fouled out. As a defender, he could place himself in a perfect position on a driving opponent that eliminated every possible shot the shooter had. When I played pick-up ball against a smaller or slower player, my goal was to defend like Walton. Managed to do it just a couple of times. Along with all this and the ability to run the court with the guards, he was a pin point passer. He could palm the ball and pass with just a flick of the wrist, hit a player under the hoop with amazing accuracy.
What a fine entertaining and informative production this is. What a beast Bill Walton was on the court for several years before his devastating injuries that plagued much of his career, until the '86 season with the Celtics.
Arvydas Sabonis has a legitimate claim for the greatest "What if?" as well. If he was able to come over in 86 when he was drafted before his body gave out he might have been able to change the basketball landscape in the Jordan era.
great call, and had me thinking how bad the blazers luck is - cause later with what also happened to b.roy and oden
@@raiderbro8663 They drafted Sam Bowie too
Imagine portland with sabonis-petrovich; euro dominance in the 90's
@@bingobongo496 Almost like a 90's version of what would be happening in Dallas now if Dirk was 20 years younger.
There are a few huge "what if" claims in basketball.
Len Bias - what if he DIDN'T get stupid and OD?
This actually made me tear up a little. Damn injuries stripped us of his potential but thank God Bill was able to accomplish so much in such a short amount of time.
In my mind, this is the saddest story in the history of the NBA. So glad you gave it the happy ending that Bill deserved.
Watching him play against Jabbar in the playoffs was must see tv. Bill was amazing. Could do it all.
Walton is the classic case for why people can't just look at stats to define someone. Walton had so much more of an impact on the court than a guy who scored a career best 19 ppg. He was the 70's version of Tim Duncan. He didn't score a ton of points, but was an anchor whose teams just won when he was healthy. Plus passer, efficient scorer, great rebounder, underrated shot blocker, and the rare pivot man that elevated the cast of characters around him. Even Jabbar couldn't say that...he was a better individual player, but couldn't do what Walton did with that 77 Blazers team. And the 78 Blazers team is along with the 73 Celtics, the biggest injury what if team in NBA history. Walton won the MVP despite only playing 58 games...Portland was 50-10 and absolutely cruising towards a repeat title. Head and shoulders better than anyone in the league when he got hurt against Philly. 49-9 with him and 11-19 without him including the six game Western semis loss to Seattle. And basically robbed of his prime with his feet injuries.
I have always thought this since the 44pt UCLA game. Had I done sports documentaries this is exactly the one I would have done. At least, unlike the tragedy of Bo Jackson, Walton had his day. My favorite guy in basketball.
Best college player I've ever seen. Best bank shot, best rebounder, best passing big man, best shot blocker, incredible at reading the floor, team leader. Kareem was second-best.
I pick Russell close 2nd. But close and no big deal. Kareem right there too.
I have great respect for the talent of Bill Walton. Because of what he did even thru an injury filled career. Definitely the biggest What If in NBA history
Bill Walton was actually that good. And then a gigantic "what if he was able to stay healthy his entire career" He would have been included in every discussion of the goat.
This one hits hard Clayton, good job
It does. A beautiful team to watch and enjoy.
Clayton needs to do a voice over docu-series for ESPN one day man
Update: the story at the end has me crying, what an orator you are Clayton
I've watched Bill Walton play in various games and my goodness, he could play.
I was fortunate to grow up being able to watch him play, I always had great respect for Bill. As a Celtics fan I was so happy when he joined the team and watched the entire 86 season. Bill was an incredibly gifted player and I hope he is playing pain free right now. RIP Bill.
I can’t give you enough “Thumbs Ups” for this video. You brought me all the way back to when I saw Walton play ridiculously well with Larry.
Walton was that guy in College. I wish he could have had a longer NBA career
Julio thom hope you’re getting thru Russell’s death okay. I know you’re a Russell guy
@@kingofnewyork7765 Appreciate you for remembering that.
My appreciation goes way beyond the court (and he was otherworldly there). He was one of my Grandfather’s heroes and I learned about him at a very early age.
Grandpa was a Black man that had no love for the city of Boston, but was a huge fan of both Russell and Red Auerbach.
If you love basketball, no question. He was a strong individual player and an impeccable team player.
I followed his career at UCLA so , I had to follow him at Portland and when he was healthy Walton was incredible. Fantastic passer , shot blocker and when he wanted scorer too.
Portland native here. My favorite Walton story is from after the championship in ‘77. The victory parade was happening downtown. Members of the team were speaking at the podium to the crowd. Walton gets up, announces that someone stole his bicycle, describes the bicycle, and asks for help locating it. Rumor is, he spent considerable time searching for it after the parade. Various locals still have stories about being at the parade and being approached by Bill asking after his missing bicycle.
Thats hilarious and so sad bc it sounds like he never found it.
Another Portland native here, and my recollection is that the bicycle eventually showed up.
He also routinely played in pick-up games in a park in NW PDX, high level games (a lot of off-season college and good high school players) but open to anyone who dared walk on.
Don, Thanks for sharing about those pickup games! I was born shortly after Bill left the Blazers so I only have second hand accounts. I also neglected the happy ending that Bill was reunited with his bicycle. Apparently he is an avid cyclist still to this day.
I was there at the parade in 77, the bicycle was indeed returned a week later.
@@donbaccus2074 Wallace Park, right? I remember him wearing that shirt. The best team that only 12,666 saw each night. I'm so glad I was lucky enough to witness the best passing/fast break team in the history of the NBA. People just have no idea that Bill was THAT good. He was. Unfortunately he was born with abnormally high arches in his feet, which were the source of all his other injuries.
RIP to Bill. Still one of the great videos of all time about one of the truly great players of all time.
Walton was the best passing, most intelligent center I ever saw when he was healthy. That year he had in Portland was amazing. One of the best any center ever had.
For those who mention jokic, Bill was a true rim protecting center and far more athletic before the foot problems.
The Red Auerbach story made my eyes tear up. Walton just wanted one more chance . . .
You offer the most refreshing and respectable basketball content on UA-cam and you have my undying respect. Good work Clayton.
Easily your best one yet. I've always said Walton had the potential to be the best ever, makes me sad for him. Thanks for this.
I grew up watching Bill Walton from the UCLA days. This brought back so many memories.
Amazing video, such a beautiful narrative. Regardless of age and injuries, the footage of him and Bird is astounding... Remarkable!
Man this one gave me legit goosebumps several times…well done Clayton. Well done.
EXCELLENT video. Well done. That ‘74 season as a 12 year-old (and a junior high b-baller myself) was my first recollection of college basketball and I idolized Bill Walton. I remember both the Notre Dame loss and watching the North Carolina State loss and being so disappointed.
Bill Walton was one of my all time favorite basketball players!
I got to watch Bill Walton play college ball whenever a U.C.L.A. game come on tv in lndiana , born in 1962 l was just a young kid but a baller , Walton was a complete fundamentally sound team lst player , l loved how he used the backboard on turn around shots , l would take a ball to the school yard & practice my bank shot for hours , l watched how he blocked out & used his arms to clear out opponents for rebounds , l would copy his fundamentals for my game . Felt bad when l watched Notre Dame end their 88 game win streak , bottom line in Walton was a force at U.C.L.A. & that's how l remember Bill . Another force in college but injuries hampered his pro game was Austin Carr Notre Dame .
An absolute epic encapsulation of one of the most prolific, and unique players in NCAA/NBA history. Thanks for this!
Bill Walton seems like such a likable person its just so sad that he was plagued with so many injuries
He has an incredible appreciation for other great players and teams. He will go and on about Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Baylor, Barry, Dr J, Pistol Pete, Shaq like he's a fan himself. Cause he is. Doesn't ooze jealousy or envy toward other greats.
Though we know he can't help but wonder what may have been in his own case.
Walton was one greatest when healthy. UCLA had Kareem and then Bill. What a dynasty.
Ah man this put me close to tears, what an incredible athlete and person! Best breakdown of his career I have ever seen.
It was really great when Bill and Larry played together. It was one of the greatest season ever.
I heard that Bill and Larry really were not particularly close off the court. They went their own way. Still, in 1986 they were teammates on one of the greatest teams in Celtic and NBA history.
100% agree about Walton being the biggest "What If?" I can't help but wonder how much his injury woes all trace back to the fall at Washington St. He has to wear a back brace in its aftermath, which maybe alters the way he jumps or moves, which leads to a foot injury, which makes him shoot differently, which leads to a finger injury, etc. Compensating for one injury leads to the next. If there was some way to stop the first domino in that chain from toppling, how much different could his career have been?
I always think of the great NBA centers as "The Magnificent Seven:" Abdul-Jabbar, Chamberlain, Malone, O'Neal, Olajuwon, Robinson, and Russell. If Bill Walton had just had a normal level of injuries, I think that would unquestionably be a group of eight great centers, and Walton would be right there among them...
You list Russell last of the 7 . Russell The GOAT .
@@willmorrisusa It's alphabetical, not by worthiness. 🙂
Okay . That's one way to do it !
No doubt.
No question, he’s already pretty much up there, a little less injury and he’d be top 3 all time
One of the very best college players ever. God knows how great he could have been without the injuries. He was a great passer, he could shoot, rebound and block shots.
I couldn't believe his insistence that he was 6'11'". He would appear in photos where he towered over Kareem and Shaq. He was at a Kings game in Sacto doing color, and the announcer asked him, "So I'm 6'2" and you seem about a foot taller than me, how tall are you really?" Bill held strong, "I'm 6'11"."
Such a fabulous story, beautifully told in your inimitable style - brought a tear to my eye - so evocative, and a fantastic flood of memories of Walton, Bird, UCLA, the Blazers, Wooden, Auerbach and the Celtics - many many thanks mate
This hurt 😢 such good man great speaker. Definitely will miss him. Thanks for the memories Bill 😢
Passing my respects to a great player and greater human being... R.I.P Bill Walton
I wasnt alive back then, but as a San Diegan, I dont think it was his false that clippers left, it was the team owner, and mentioned in one video, the team owner said, "Clippers will never leave San Diego" and the NBA even prohibited Clippers to move to a differnt city, but he still moved to LA. I wonder how it felt when a team, that played the sport you love the most, goes to your home city, and plays. But then leaves. It would have been really fun to watch the Clippers play in San Diego to this day.
One of the most skilled big men in nba history. Sad that we didn’t get to see his full potential😔
One of the things I remember about that 1986 Finals was Walton's tackle of Ralph Sampson during a brawl. Sampson himself would become one of the game's great "what-ifs".
Ralph just never had the level of "fire" to be one of the Top Tier.
He was skilled enough and had enough raw ability to make the next tier down, but didn't have that "competitive instinct" level to make the final level.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 i hear ralph sampson problem he never master nothing like skyhook shot ;; in NBA must have go to move ; jabber could shoot skyhook at any angle around the basket plus other moves around the basket dunk : turnaround jumper etc etc ; plus knee problem very tall 7 foot basketball have problem in NBA
@@lloydkline1518 It was WILT had the knee surgery, not Kareem.
But yes, many 7+ footers do end up with issues in their feet or knees fairly quickly.
Sampson's real issue though was that he just didn't have the level of internal FIRE of the greatest players.
Game 6 of the 1986 Finals was a SHOWCASE of that issue.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 i said you tube counles countless of time wilt had knee surgery in early 1969 sgortly after playing jabber first time wilt was over the hill / old years past his primes :: ralph sampson had mult knees surgery on both knee ;; rallph sampson was suppose to be great very very 7 NBA basketball have problems
@@lloydkline1518 3 examples counting Walton's feet - vs HOW MANY 7 footers that have played in the NBA over the decades?
OK, 4 examples counting Yao.
Definitely my favourite video of yours. Had me emotional at the end. Kudos to you,my friend!
absolutely pumped. Walton is a guy that as a casual fan growing up I'd always hear about, so it'll be great to see him getting his due.
This might be your best work yet. Only 3 channels I look forward to new content when it comes NBA material and you are at the top of that list.
What about thinking basketball or take line?
Who are the others?
What a phenomenal job you did putting this story together! You captured the essence of Walton beautifully within the way you rode the wave of his life story. You can feel Walton in your video. Thank you for such an amazing work of art
I came here because I first heard about this beautiful man from this video. Please rest peacefully.
this is great, actually bringing tears to my eyes. wish i could somehow feel what Bill Walton and the blazers were doing at that time
Your takes on these incredible players and teams are beyond amazing and show a deep respect for the game.
Actually gives me deeper respect for the game- especially as I knew it int the 70's and 80's.
Bill was a favorite in 70's, despite being a Celts fan since birth...how great a gift when he joined the best team, ever.
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Great to see this. Have been saying this for 40 years. When he took over a game, it was over. The other team might as well go home. Literally no weaknesses.
you remind me so much of thinking basketball. Your love for walton speaks volume about your bball iq. I got walton as top 5 iq player all time
This was very well done!!
For two seasons Bill Walton was the best player on the planet.
Commenting for the algorithm. I don’t have anything to add but all your videos are just so good. You’re a gift to basketball nerds everywhere.
In a sea of similar NBA content, where I thought I almost had seen it all, this series is an incredible breath of fresh air. We need more stories, and less stats.
Awesome!! Thank you for this!
Man. What an amazing video Clayton. Easily one of the best you've ever put out. Thank you. Your take on basketball is undeniably refreshing and the way you present the awesome stories of NBA history is unparalleled on the UA-cam space, save for some of the stuff SB Nation put out. I hope your balls stay ever smoothed with the sponsor of today's video, Manscaped. Manscaped is the all in one men's hygiene brand to keep your balls in tip top shape
Rip Bill, you were one of the greatest players to ever do it, a true character and legend of the game.