That's what happens when you remove their counters. No logic to this buffing process if a ult comes around 1 in 10 tacs that fully counters it is a issue really just says they weren't sure if these buffs would be enough to help Gibby be good again.
That's what happens when you remove their counters. No logic to this buffing process if a ult comes around 1 in 10 tacs that fully counters it is a issue really just says they weren't sure if these buffs would be enough to help Gibby be good again. With that cool down you should have a tac for every counter that comes your way. At least when ramatra had his shield pent removed for extra damage against shields that got reverted in a week or 2. This is apex we have to deal with numbskull ideas for months without end.
This is coming from someone who's a multi master mirage main who even got into masters with him last season. Mirage is atleast low B tier, even in last season but expecially in this one. There's so many bubbles right now that his ult can easily get people out of position in a bubble fight, and he's a close range character who excels at using a shotgun. Even his rez is great, just because of the after rez invisibility. You can quite easily coordinate with your teammate and kill a cocky pathfinder by just being invisible and taking an advantageous spot to kill him.
Mirage is a great example of a legend that totally molds to its user! If YOU are a great player, Mirage can be outstanding! But if you’re more average, his abilities themselves can’t carry you too much. I weighed that in slightly to my ranking! (I’m a semi Mirage main too :) )
True this support meta is strong but honestly they should nerf new castle a little bit but not too much. And honestly this is the perfect time to buff seer and give him his cancels back
i don think gibby is S tier because even tho he has shields, the enemy can also play offf those shields. it doesn't benefit him more than the enemy imo. new castle needs a speed nerf when hes reviving tho
I completely agree with this tier list more than any other I’ve seen for this season. However as a wraith main I’m biased. She’s easily god tier and nothing lower. That’s a joke btw for this of you who don’t get sarcasm
I would argue octane is useful for being able to quickly push a team to disrupt the revive and fuse having more grenades helps against lifeline ult and can help control which side of the shield the enemy is playing, overall pretty solid list!
I struggled with Fuse because I feel like he *should* be great right now! But in practice it has been hard to make him work so far. Could be a skill issue!
11:26 then why isn't Wattson higher? Her first upgrade where she gets the support class rez is huge, and her purple upgrade that makes her gen regen shields faster is honestly better than a Conduit q in alot of scenarios because it isn't temporary. Not to mention this upgrade pairs very well with a lifeline halo. Newcastle is definitely better, but Wattson is at least a solid A tier pick, especially for resets and her overall utility. I can't tell you how many times a teammate got knocked and I had to slow the enemies down with my fences so we can hit the quick rez.
Exactly she should be way higher due to her image supportive style would honestly switch out gibby and Watson within the gibby lifeline new castle combo
Wattson is nice, but there are a couple reasons I kept her out of A Tier: 1) barely any offensive capability, and once you get to Diamond you really need KP to rank up at all 2) the shields when thrown properly disrupt Wattson fences, it was a big issue years ago for Wattson players where Gibby would just bubble onto her fences and make them disappear Your points are valid though, I could be underrating her!
@@ADeliciousMango valid, but also Wattson counters gibby's ult, making lifeline ults and Newcastle shields even more safe. Some give and take. Plus as an experienced Wattson main, I typically just throw a bunch of fences in the gibby bubble when they try that crap. Granted it isn't easy to pull off and Wattson still has little offensive capabilities. Not to mention it's always risky pushing a gibby with a shotgun in his bubble
Disagree with some picks here rev and conduit, rev is not that oppressive this season because of the healing in fights, his ult is kinda just overshadowed and for conduit she is definitely S imo her shield tac stalls fights and that with her new passive and her viable ult she is as good as the S tier characters, oh yeah and lastly bang is probably A tbh S isn’t a bad placement though, again though conduit this season feels like more of a secondary fragger/support with her shield tac.
I think bang is c tier because the smoke can blind teammates the enemies can avoid getting hit by the ult or if it does hit you it does like little damage.
Maggie deserves to be in C tier yeah she excel at shotgun bubble fights but her passive for shotguns is hardly noticeable and unlike crypto her ult can't bypass shields crypto can at least get 50 damage through barriers. Plus his utility of gathering banners scanning beacons gives him a leg up on her it's not hard for someone to out space Maggie drill. Having to step in to launch her ult is going to ruin Maggie and her team fuse can harass lifeline better.
I had hoped so, but in practice he hasn’t been that effective! Newcastle just drags players away too quickly now, and I usually don’t get much value out of the grenades throwing them inside the halo or around NC shields
Valk’s best ability has been essentially replaced by EVAC towers and energized pathfinder zip lines, which is why she isn’t super valued right now. She’s a very fun and pesky fighter though with her recent improvements to her jet pack!
In pred lobbies right now, she’s one of the very few legends with above a 4% pick rate! She’s the most flexible legend in the game, there’s never a bad time to have Bang on your team
No wonder everyone is using mainly supports. I come back to play apex legends once in awhile and jeez I can’t play a regular game without that S tier trio 💀 js having fun playing as my girl alter
Am I right, or am I way off? Let me know!
Way off
Id like to see gameplay of said legend when that legend is being discussed about
@@lloydjones494 which legends do you think I should change?
@@tidepods2004 i can remember that for next time!
I think its pretty spot on but im a wattson main so of course she belongs at s😂
I think Loba and Crypto should be higher because they're attractive, and that's most important
Agreed! 😏
Crypto is still op
Gibby made a comeback and he didn't even change much 💀
Maybe the best offensive character in the game ‼️
the bubble cooldown is huge ngl
That's what happens when you remove their counters. No logic to this buffing process if a ult comes around 1 in 10 tacs that fully counters it is a issue really just says they weren't sure if these buffs would be enough to help Gibby be good again.
That's what happens when you remove their counters. No logic to this buffing process if a ult comes around 1 in 10 tacs that fully counters it is a issue really just says they weren't sure if these buffs would be enough to help Gibby be good again. With that cool down you should have a tac for every counter that comes your way.
At least when ramatra had his shield pent removed for extra damage against shields that got reverted in a week or 2. This is apex we have to deal with numbskull ideas for months without end.
Old seer would be so good in this meta
Exactly I thought so too
Oh my goodness Old Seer would dismantle this entire meta
I said they should revert the cancel heals on seer so he could have a place again to counter this buff if they're gonna need Maggie n crypto.
This is coming from someone who's a multi master mirage main who even got into masters with him last season.
Mirage is atleast low B tier, even in last season but expecially in this one. There's so many bubbles right now that his ult can easily get people out of position in a bubble fight, and he's a close range character who excels at using a shotgun.
Even his rez is great, just because of the after rez invisibility. You can quite easily coordinate with your teammate and kill a cocky pathfinder by just being invisible and taking an advantageous spot to kill him.
Mirage is a great example of a legend that totally molds to its user! If YOU are a great player, Mirage can be outstanding! But if you’re more average, his abilities themselves can’t carry you too much. I weighed that in slightly to my ranking! (I’m a semi Mirage main too :) )
I hate this meta they overtuned Newcastle and supports beyond belief no reason to use anyone else
I’m a support main and even I agree… the triple shield team shouldn’t be viable, yet it’s almost meta to have 3 supps and nothing else 😂
It screws 3rd parties though and that makes me happy.
@@austinparks997if you can't deal with 3rd parties without triple shields you shouldn't have it.
True this support meta is strong but honestly they should nerf new castle a little bit but not too much. And honestly this is the perfect time to buff seer and give him his cancels back
I actually can’t believe they made Newcastle’s shield unbreakable 😂
As a Crypto and vantage main… this season hurts 😭
I love conduit, the temp shields tank shotgun shots and help win fights so much
Newcastle +Lifeline + Conduit is just a broken combo. It's impossible to die!
That or lifeline , NC, Watson
i don think gibby is S tier because even tho he has shields, the enemy can also play offf those shields. it doesn't benefit him more than the enemy imo. new castle needs a speed nerf when hes reviving tho
we need S+ tier just for mirage
Best Boy Tier List: Mirage #1 easily
I completely agree with this tier list more than any other I’ve seen for this season. However as a wraith main I’m biased. She’s easily god tier and nothing lower.
That’s a joke btw for this of you who don’t get sarcasm
Thank you! And yes, as a Loba main, I too think my main is superior and has zero flaws, easily S+ tier 😂
A fun season for one
I would argue octane is useful for being able to quickly push a team to disrupt the revive and fuse having more grenades helps against lifeline ult and can help control which side of the shield the enemy is playing, overall pretty solid list!
I struggled with Fuse because I feel like he *should* be great right now! But in practice it has been hard to make him work so far. Could be a skill issue!
@ could be, I’m always changing legends because some days I’m better at others
It's great to see gibby back 💪
I agree!
11:26 then why isn't Wattson higher? Her first upgrade where she gets the support class rez is huge, and her purple upgrade that makes her gen regen shields faster is honestly better than a Conduit q in alot of scenarios because it isn't temporary. Not to mention this upgrade pairs very well with a lifeline halo. Newcastle is definitely better, but Wattson is at least a solid A tier pick, especially for resets and her overall utility. I can't tell you how many times a teammate got knocked and I had to slow the enemies down with my fences so we can hit the quick rez.
Exactly she should be way higher due to her image supportive style would honestly switch out gibby and Watson within the gibby lifeline new castle combo
Wattson is nice, but there are a couple reasons I kept her out of A Tier:
1) barely any offensive capability, and once you get to Diamond you really need KP to rank up at all
2) the shields when thrown properly disrupt Wattson fences, it was a big issue years ago for Wattson players where Gibby would just bubble onto her fences and make them disappear
Your points are valid though, I could be underrating her!
@@ADeliciousMango valid, but also Wattson counters gibby's ult, making lifeline ults and Newcastle shields even more safe. Some give and take. Plus as an experienced Wattson main, I typically just throw a bunch of fences in the gibby bubble when they try that crap. Granted it isn't easy to pull off and Wattson still has little offensive capabilities. Not to mention it's always risky pushing a gibby with a shotgun in his bubble
Disagree with some picks here rev and conduit, rev is not that oppressive this season because of the healing in fights, his ult is kinda just overshadowed and for conduit she is definitely S imo her shield tac stalls fights and that with her new passive and her viable ult she is as good as the S tier characters, oh yeah and lastly bang is probably A tbh S isn’t a bad placement though, again though conduit this season feels like more of a secondary fragger/support with her shield tac.
Wait wth I didn’t mean to put the timestamp lol
That Valkarie clutch was insane
Man I was stressed, it was like a 60 second fight 😂
I think bang is c tier because the smoke can blind teammates the enemies can avoid getting hit by the ult or if it does hit you it does like little damage.
Your own bang blinding you with smoke can be VERY annoying, I 100% agree with that
Maggie deserves to be in C tier yeah she excel at shotgun bubble fights but her passive for shotguns is hardly noticeable and unlike crypto her ult can't bypass shields crypto can at least get 50 damage through barriers. Plus his utility of gathering banners scanning beacons gives him a leg up on her it's not hard for someone to out space Maggie drill. Having to step in to launch her ult is going to ruin Maggie and her team fuse can harass lifeline better.
Think Maggie needs to be at least A tier. She is literally the only counter to the shield meta and is great with shotguns
I think that’s fair! I just think her ultimate being frankly *bad* against shields now kept her in B, but that’s a very reasonable point
@@ADeliciousMango its bad because got nerfed this season, used to destroy bubbles, castles, etc...
Surely fuse with his grenade counters for shields should be a little higher?
I had hoped so, but in practice he hasn’t been that effective! Newcastle just drags players away too quickly now, and I usually don’t get much value out of the grenades throwing them inside the halo or around NC shields
I love alter so much I just recently picked her up and shes so much fun to play
I think she’s one of the most unique legends in the game, and so much fun!
way off Sheila is actually good this season. rampart should be c or above
Look how they massacred my boy (crypto)
If Crypto could negate all of these shields he’d be so easily S Tier
They did us so wrong bruh!
Bro has never played Ballistic and it shows
facts
I’ve played a day of Ballistic in pred ranked! He’s a fine character, but just not that useful right now
LET’S GO MIRAGE!! ABOVE BLOODHOUND?! LESSGO.
as a mirage main im happy. thats all i care for, atleast hes not the worst haha
Us Mirage enjoyers need more love!
Here for the Nick pump
PUMP IT
How is Ash higher than Valk
Valk’s best ability has been essentially replaced by EVAC towers and energized pathfinder zip lines, which is why she isn’t super valued right now. She’s a very fun and pesky fighter though with her recent improvements to her jet pack!
@@ADeliciousMangoshe can literally fly and her tactical is now a guaranteed knock wtf are you talking about
@@orach2480 that's the first time I've heard of Valk's "guaranteed knock", I must be missing something 😂
Bang s tier ur joking right😂
In pred lobbies right now, she’s one of the very few legends with above a 4% pick rate! She’s the most flexible legend in the game, there’s never a bad time to have Bang on your team
This is objectively a terrible and very inaccurate tier list
I’d love to hear what specifically you think is wrong!
No wonder everyone is using mainly supports. I come back to play apex legends once in awhile and jeez I can’t play a regular game without that S tier trio 💀 js having fun playing as my girl alter
It’s such a revive meta, I’ve never seen anything like it 💀 I’m having fun though!