crazy this has only 63 likes - great test - I think Tokinas seem warmer and bit more of a green tint and I guess more "filmic" - perhaps bit more pleasing on skin tones - but is it enough to go cine over auto focus and ease of use? there both good lenses - and for interviews I doubt ud notice much difference - thanks for time in doing the test
Focus breathing is substantially less on the Tokina, but depending on your preference in how each lens handles flaring...it is about what you are going for. Great test!
It's incredible that you uploaded this less than 3 days ago lol. I started debating getting a Tokina Vista 35 for my FX6 and FX3. It's that or a couple of G Masters.. (you could get the 24, 50,and 85 for one lol). I love the warm look it has, and flare. The lack of breathing is great of course. Am I crazy in thinking it just has the look (sheen?) - that is just "there" for cinema?
Now that the FX6 has a really smart anti-breathing feature - it might be worth picking a set of Gmaster Lenses and renting the Tokina for bigger budgets :)
I would rather just go for used Sigma Art Primes. The Sigma 85mm DN is reportedly even better than the G Master for only 2/3 or half the cost. And then rent a cine lens if you really need it for a project
Hello Chris! I want to say you helped with another issue I was thinking about: which focal length to pick for interviews. I think I love the 85mm with the zoomed in look. I wasn't sure until now. And I think I very slightly prefer the Tokina but it might be bias, it's very hard to tell without looking very closely
Please explain how. I can see the difference in focus breathing but not much else. Many high end cinema lenses (Like these Vistas) are less contrasty, more detailed, and have smoother bokeh than photo lenses (Like Sigma lenses). That being said these look surprisingly close to me. However, I do prefer the Vistas but can't completely tell why. Please describe the details that make you say these are worlds apart.
@@dukebozikowski3801 I think its all in the functionality and the consistency from focal length to focal length for me. T2 on the Tokina 25 will be the same exposure and (similar) character as T2 on the Tokina 85. For the GM, the 85mm is wildly sharper than the 24mm and 35mm so lens switches could run into some issues. Just my 2 cents.
You pay for the consistency, lack of breathing, and the cinema mechanics. Very different lenses but both capable ones. So if you are in the commercial or narrative world you need consistency and probably have ACs to run your lens swaps etc. but yes, Tokinas are workhorses and worth every penny.
@UCke9bg8d6h0Qb65WYwIxaZA they look great on FX3 all the way up to Venice. Here is a piece I did on FX3 with Tokina Vista with 1/8th BPM ua-cam.com/video/5Ww6IeUufgU/v-deo.html
I'm in love with the Tokina Vista Primes!
crazy this has only 63 likes - great test - I think Tokinas seem warmer and bit more of a green tint and I guess more "filmic" - perhaps bit more pleasing on skin tones - but is it enough to go cine over auto focus and ease of use? there both good lenses - and for interviews I doubt ud notice much difference - thanks for time in doing the test
It’s the consistency over the set is the main standout for me. Which is the issue with most stills lenses - matching color, exposure, sharpness, etc
Focus breathing is substantially less on the Tokina, but depending on your preference in how each lens handles flaring...it is about what you are going for. Great test!
Thanks for doing the tests. Both lens sets are great.
Wow those flare are crazy but still looks amazing pleasing to me.
It's incredible that you uploaded this less than 3 days ago lol. I started debating getting a Tokina Vista 35 for my FX6 and FX3. It's that or a couple of G Masters.. (you could get the 24, 50,and 85 for one lol). I love the warm look it has, and flare. The lack of breathing is great of course. Am I crazy in thinking it just has the look (sheen?) - that is just "there" for cinema?
Now that the FX6 has a really smart anti-breathing feature - it might be worth picking a set of Gmaster Lenses and renting the Tokina for bigger budgets :)
I would rather just go for used Sigma Art Primes. The Sigma 85mm DN is reportedly even better than the G Master for only 2/3 or half the cost. And then rent a cine lens if you really need it for a project
Hello Chris! I want to say you helped with another issue I was thinking about: which focal length to pick for interviews. I think I love the 85mm with the zoomed in look. I wasn't sure until now. And I think I very slightly prefer the Tokina but it might be bias, it's very hard to tell without looking very closely
Worlds apart… the vistas looks sensational
Please explain how. I can see the difference in focus breathing but not much else. Many high end cinema lenses (Like these Vistas) are less contrasty, more detailed, and have smoother bokeh than photo lenses (Like Sigma lenses). That being said these look surprisingly close to me. However, I do prefer the Vistas but can't completely tell why. Please describe the details that make you say these are worlds apart.
@@dukebozikowski3801 I think its all in the functionality and the consistency from focal length to focal length for me. T2 on the Tokina 25 will be the same exposure and (similar) character as T2 on the Tokina 85. For the GM, the 85mm is wildly sharper than the 24mm and 35mm so lens switches could run into some issues. Just my 2 cents.
@@chrisniswonger Thanks! I can definitely see the sharpness difference now and the consistency on the tokinas is incredible!
@@dukebozikowski38015:32 says it all for me. That’s why.
My opinion though.
@@KaceyBakerFilms Thanks that really helped! Nice side by side
You gotta do the side by side, it’s difficult to go back and forth between the two - I forget what one looked like by the time I get to the other
Very true! Next time I’ll definitely do it. Maybe time stamps would help?
is the tokina worth the price over the GM's?
thnx for doing this!
You pay for the consistency, lack of breathing, and the cinema mechanics. Very different lenses but both capable ones. So if you are in the commercial or narrative world you need consistency and probably have ACs to run your lens swaps etc.
but yes, Tokinas are workhorses and worth every penny.
@UCke9bg8d6h0Qb65WYwIxaZA they look great on FX3 all the way up to Venice. Here is a piece I did on FX3 with Tokina Vista with 1/8th BPM
ua-cam.com/video/5Ww6IeUufgU/v-deo.html
@@chrisniswonger no way! That was with the fx3? Wow! Was pulling focus on it difficult solo?
@@TimandLauren yup! Wasn’t bad with a proper follow focus.
@@chrisniswonger The disadvantage of 300 degree focus pulls.
The focus breathing on the Sony lenses is disgusting