Sukuna vs Meruem WHO WINS?!
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#sukuna #meruem #jjk #hxh
"Ah my anti meruem technique , I havent used this since the heian era"
😂😂😂 Here.. *best comment award*
X) ah plot armor at is best love it. And what would it be, bug spray?
Underrated comment
Where does this joke come from
or ah my anti kimera ant technque
"if gege is writing, always bet on sukuna"
The real MC😂
ON GOD. Everyone who disagrees will finally understand that when all the characters who he’s choosing to be healed by RCT come back and sukuna even after fighting everyone and almost dying still comes out on top ☠️☠️
@@LuckBozohe probably would if Gojo is not involved.
The guy used to fight the strongest of his time at the same time and always came out victorious. Even against Gojo he didn't went all out.
He is a beast.
Sukuna straight up stole Kaido's whole flow.
Better then gojo a side character beating the big bad.❤🖤🙃
“Ah my raid bug spray technique, i havent used this since the heian era”
*yorozu*
"Ahhhhhh yes my anti-ant technique I haven't used this since yayruozu"
-Sukuna
Oh god she even had wings
@@NCHammer23well now you made this video you have to make Naruto vs luffy
@@MasonHutch-er7jb who do you think will win ?
Mind you naruto has reached his peak already, and is even getting weaker now, luffy hasn't yet !
@@506Edai well if we’re treating like a proper nchammer fight we gotta take both the in there primes. Which would be kcm2 adult Naruto and g5 Luffy
Naruto is dead already.
The fact Meruem is THIS powerful in HxH is still so crazy to me. No one has come close to his strength or symbiosis to an entire Power System, without even trying to be better.
Aluku as well as beings from dark continent negs Meruem
Meruem and the ants still only considered a B class threat from the dark continent.
Alina and her wish granting far extends him. Plus there are upincoming monsters like 4th kakin prince, Ging and Don that could potiential surpass him.
@@viswa3059 I consider them more "entity" based.
@@JDWalker495only because of the fact that ants are trash early on. If queen was found by hunters before she gave birth to royal guards they would low diff her and it would be “yeah ants are trash some random hunters killed them”. But the fact that Phagogenesis works like it does if ants were allowed to eat creatures from the dark continent there would be kings many times stronger than Meruem and they would still be stronger than anything on dark continent. In fact it’s not ants that are B type it’s Meruems colony of ants in terms of Dark Continent scaling that is B type. So while yeah Meruem is not as strong as some creatures from Dark Continent,ants given the opportunity would become strongest on DC…
@@JDWalker495 true, but then again, we don't know if aluka actually has any fighting abilities!?
Her wish granting is broken, yes, but can she even grant wishes for herself or only for others ?
Am not sure if she can actually fight like meruem, even though he's only b class, he's the fighting type !
"Ah, yes, my anti-the-strongest-character-in-this-verce technique. I haven't used it since 5.852 months ago.
its the second time ive seen nick say that the world cutting slash is a slash aimed behind gojo, it is not, its a slash that cuts space it self, its hard to understand but space is an actual interatible phenomena, space actually exists, its not just distance it is an actual substance, mass bends space and creates gravity, sukuna cuts space. Infity efectively creates an infinite space between gojo and whatever is attacking him, thus anything travelling through space takes an infinite amount of time to reach him, sukunas slash doesnt travel through space it cuts the very space in wich gojo exists, not everything behind him.
a good way to visualize it is to imagine a 2D plane (like a sheet of paper), gojo and sukuna are on this plane and the regular slashes are also travelling through thsi plane, but gojo can create and infinite amount of this plane and thus the slashes never reach him, the world cutting slash cuts through the plane as if taking sicsors to the sheet of paper, its not aiming behind 2D gojo, its cutting the plane in which 2D gojo exists.
The exact phrasing in the manga is "its intended target wasnt just you gojo, but *space*, the entire world, *existance* itself..."
now does this mean duraneg? maybe, i think so but it for sure is not just a stronger slash aimed behind gojo.
Its definitely duraneg but Meruem just speedblitzs and one shots him. Nick has some pretty hit or miss powerscaling takes
@@issactbh im not saying sukuna wins but the take if the world cutting slash being a technicality is a misconception
It's such a bullshit ability Gege pulled outta his assI literally stopped reading the Manga after that fight.
@the1sthook605 Fair enough. If Sukuna somehow regens fast enough from the blitz n starts his chant he might have a chance
nick only reads fanmade translations full of errors, thats why he never understand the true meaning behind the abilitys
Dude I love your videos I dont care if its JJK for 3 years straight or comparisons MAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT and we will watch it! Great vid!
Couldn't agree more
Relateable
for someone with the entire jujutsu power system memorized he really did fumble by calling his world slash cleave when its a dismantle variant
he’s a restarted clickbaiter what u expect
Yeah, it's a Dismantle, a "slash that cuts the world (space/space-time)". Not only that, it bypasses durability, so unless u have regeneration, ur cooked
@@Nick-bv1ychit yuji and he didn't die
1. It doesn't cut space time
2. It cuts everything or at least It goes through anything don't know how yuji survived it though
Yuji is soaked in Sukuna's cursed energy and as we know your own technique will deal less damage than enemy just like Gojo is able to tank his own hollow purple with little damage while Sukuna is on his deathbed @@ashanime5655
I was going to say this exact thing. Like don’t go talking down on people when you don’t even know the difference between dismantle and cleave
Throughout the heaven and earth, we are the powerscalers
My lord🫡
You got a bunch of stuff wrong on Sukuna's side. The manga quite literally says that Sukuna's slash that bisects the world cuts through SPACE, the world and EXISTENCE itself, you even showed it in the video. It doesn't say that it cuts behind his target or just ampes up his normal slashes. Which makes sense as in order to bypass infinity which divides a finite amount of space an infinite amount of times you have to cut the very fabric of the universe itself which Gojo and infinity occupy. Also Sukuna uses an expanded dismantle not cleave.
The difference between Sukuna's slashes is that dismantle is a ranged attack that can be shot out thus being weaker and cleave is an attack that requires contact with the target to adjust to it's toughness in order to cut through it in one fell swoop. That's why in his domain simple cuts like dismantle target things without cursed energy and adjusted cuts like cleave target things with cursed energy since in his domain both can be ranged attacks and things with cursed energy are tougher to cut through as they are normally sorcerers that can strengthen and defend with it.
When we speak about domains Sukuna can also close his domain as he stated against Gojo so Meruem wouldn't be able to escape it assuming he even knows that he can or should escape it the first time or even survives it to begin with since in the domain he also has to deal with cleave slashes and amped up ones as well as the domain strengthens them. While Meruem's getting cut up Sukuna can always just use his fuga as well to seal the deal like he did with Mahoraga. If Meruem however escapes Sukuna's first open domain Sukuna also has the ability of ranged attacks far exceeding his 200m domain radius since we saw in the fight with Mahoraga that his slashes were even able to reach up to a plane.
When we talk about speed Sukuna was able to dodge a point blank electromagnetic shockwave (not lightning) which roughly travel at the speed of light and was able to block a 200% purple at the start of his fight with Gojo which is an imaginary mass and thus travels faster than lightspeed and he did all that in his Mekuna form.
Also you cannot compare the damage the rose nuke did to Meruem to the damage the omnidirectional purple did to Sukuna as Sukuna was still fit enough to pull off the victory against a black flash amped up to 120% Gojo with a very demanding technique and directly after low diff Kashimo etc. Also to top it all off in the manga Sukuna apparently didn't go all out yet and still has one finger left to consume so all those previous feats are lowballs.
Just want to Point out a few missed points
1) Sukuna can use a closed barrier domain and only used open barrier against beings who have a domain expansion. He will most likely use Closed barrier Domain.
2) the Space cutting Dismantle (not cleave) cuts the space in which a object/person is. So regardless of the Durability. Even if he can take Nukes. It doesn't matter as the space it self in which you exist will get slashed so it is just Durability Negation.
3) Firearrow Happened at 75% power and For the hollow purple it was the 2nd hollow purple Sukuna was heavily Damaged. And sukuna with hand signs and incantation Firearrow will be much Stronger. He took a 10 seconds in infinite void 4 black Flashes and A 200% hollow purple Before the last hollow purple and Megumi Sukuna in terms of strengh and durability is weaker than true Form. so yea it his Max Durability it higher
4) Sukuna is immune to all Poisons.
5) reaction time is much higher than actual speed even Hakari can react to light speed. For Kashimo SUkuna was dodging him at light speed after tanking 2 hollow purples 4 black flashes and 4 domain expansion. A fully healed ready true form sukuna is around atleast 2x faster than light.
Conclusion: Sukuna takes wins mid-Diff. 1 good Space slash and Meruem dead as Space cutting slash is Durability Negation unless you are a 4D+ being which Meruem isnt. N0 need for domain expansion and Sukuna much faster and better durability and he has rct. and in his fight unlike Gojo his brain isnt going to fry so his RCT output will always be high. and lets not forget he still hasnt gone 100%. For long ranged attacks Sukuna reacted and countered a 200% hollow purple at light speed which multiple wales were Trying to suppress and hide the presence of that attack. Sukuna will react. Dodge any long range attacks.
Pretty much this. Not only have we never seen a Sukuna running at full power, but the durability feats we've seen from him come after purposefully taking massive damage, getting hit by 200% Hollow Purple and THEN a maximum output Hollow Purple. Also simple domain is wrapping yourself in your domain, not cursed energy. It's not the same as using aura as a shield
Agreed to all except light speed reaction for Hakari, it was lightning speed
@@viswa3059how is it lightning speed?
@@viswa3059 the Lightspeed scaling is for when he dodged electromagnetic waves. Not the best argument but considering he can move so fast he disappears it's not crazy to say he could be lightspeed
@@BlaxkSun if you know how lightning works it's obvious. Basically lightning is a transfer of electrons. It could either be positive or negative charges transferring between source of lightning and object it hit. That's exactly how Kashimo attacked Hakari
I think you're off on how Sukuna's super dismantle works, from how I understand it, it is functionally the same as Yami's (from black clover) dimensional slash: an attack that bypasses regular durability by targetting not the matter that exists in a space, but rather the space itself, and by cutting the space, you cut through everything in it. Realistically, this should be impossible but anime obviously don't care about real physics.
We could think of it as Sukuna's maximum technique dismantle, he expands the target from matter to space.
Also: you said that Sukuna regenerates his DE by RCT'ing his brain, but -and this has been said before in your "gojo vs Sukuna" fight videos and I know it's mostly semantics- Sukuna actually masses cursed energy in the part of his brain that controls his cursed technique and destroys it in this way, and then RCT's that destroyed brain to refresh his cursed technique. Gojo does the same thing.
Love ur vids
@@runtergerutscht4401still the same thing
He destroys the part controlling CT and heals it still rcting his brain you just added a few extra doesn't make it different
@@ashanime5655 I did say that this is a semantic difference. But the difference between using RCT on your brain and deliberately damaging your brain so you can then heal it with RCT is why no one ever thought of that until Gojo. It's extremely unhinged.
Great video, but just be to be the actually🤓 guy, to play devil’s advocate.
Sukuna’s world cutter is an enhanced dismantle not cleave, since cleave can only be used with physical contact while dismantle is the range technique. Sukuna just extends the target to everything around them including space itself using binding vows. Also weird you didn’t bring up the Fuga flames
Also I’m not sure the rose poison would affect Sukuna since he himself is poisonous, yuji even gained great poison resistance by being his vessel. There’s also the fact that Gojo said RCT can also heal poison, and considering Sukuna can fight no problem without a heart I don’t think the poison slows him down at all.
As for Meruem’s long range bombardment, I’m confident Sukuna can tank it like the 200% hollow purple Gojo fired at him which is described as imaginary mass that rips apart matter at the atomic level. He could also use his own barrier techniques like domain amplification or hollow wicker basket to nerf the nen blasts.
You got wrong the difference between cleave and dismantle, we have seen cleave in long range, the difference is the usage, dismantle has a "set" damage output (depending on the usage of cursed energy) while cleave can be adjusted to his target, that is why cleave is more efective in h2h and that is the reason why for example he used cleave against ishigoori in close quarters, same for yuta, since he can put more impact on the cut at those distance easier
Also hollow wicker basket doesnt weaken techniques, Just nullify certain hit attacks/the barrier on the domain, the one that "weakens" techniques is the shinkage-ryuu simple domain and the ability from the noble clans (the petal something) that counter-attacks energy using the same amount of ce
@@chrisanthem9956what range cleave have we seen other than web cleave? Web cleave still had Sukuna touching the ground to use.
@@weirdflex1673 he used cleave against yuji long distance
Why are people suddenly thinking that cleave needs direct contact? Do we need to start rereading the manga?
you're forgetting that sukuna can make closed border domains since he mentioned it in his fight against gojo
21:37 the manga panel does verbatim say that the attack targeted gojo too, not the only the stuff behind him. It targeted gojo AND everything else, not just him, but since gojo is still being targeted at all infinity would still proc. Its a slash that has to cut through all space or existence in a set range in order to cut through an infinite amount of space between gojo and sukuna given that it still is targeting gojo in any respect. Ironically, your explanation would make much more sense and would be more interesting as a writing choice, buuuut its akutami and sukuna. Unfortunately.
I’m not gonna say it solidifies a win con but sukuna has more than enough ability to create a DE with a barrier and then apply the slash that cuts space to the sure hit effect, he’s written to be a jujitsu genius in the same way that meruem is the #1 nen genius
Yes !!!
@@viswa3059I p😢l
Can he just change it like that? The sure-hit for living beings is cleave and World Slash is just a dismantle variant, in order to do that he’d have to change the very foundations set by his own domain. But then again even Gojo changes his domains functions albeit not in the same way as what you described
You’re wrong sukuna was not cutting the space behind gojo if he was then why would he use the world cutting on people that don’t have infinity? It cuts the space where the person exists it says it in the manga
doesn't really change the outcome, the important part is that it didn't go through infinity, it just appeared on the other side. so there is no evidence that it is universal, it simply bypassed it without going through it. though based on what i heard is that it literally cuts the space not the thing occupying it? not really sure what that means but it sounds like it ignored durability. in which case that would have an impact for sure.
@@joshuaperry7323 yeah but the thing is you know the snake Toji has? It had a universe inside of it. And Gojo casually destroy it… Sukuna is definitely 4D…
@@joshuaperry7323bro no one said it was universal and yes it was a space cutting slash Sukuna said it himself and it’s canon too also it does ignore durability
@@pennwolf900no sukuna is definitely not 4d and not even close to being that level
@@joshuaperry7323Yes. The slash expands the target from Infinity/Gojo to space/existence. Hence why Infinity didn't matter. So yea it's dura neg. Similar to Yami's dimension slash from Black Clover
Sorry, nick, your big fan ❤ but I found a lot of things wrong in this video and there are so many mistakes in the sukuna take that I can't even count.
1. You completely mistook sukuna's cleave and dismantle thing. Sukuna uses dismantle to cut non cursed energy objects in his domain and cleave to cut cursed energy targets.
So the real target is getting hit by cleave, not dismantle in his domain.
2. Cleave activates when sukuna touches his opponent and dismantle is the one that travels through air but in a domain both are sure hit but sukuna uses cleave for the main target.
3. Sukuna's world cutting slash is a varient of dismantle, not cleave.
4. The world cutting slash doesn't cuts behind the target. It cuts the space, the world itself.
A. "Your infinity meant nothing if I van cut the world, existence itself" - Sukuna, chapter 236.
B. "So this is the slash that cuts the world" - kashimo, chapter 238 probably, I forgot the chapter number.
5. Sukuna can create an closed domain too. He literally tried to do that to gojo but gojo's infinite void melted his brain and thats why he couldn't do domain or heal himself properly.
6. So no, sukuna can definitely cut him and simce its a varient of dismantle, he possibly could apply it to his domain too. Well, its a possibility.
7. And even if he can't, I think sukuna can hold his own for the chants and can land a world cutting dismantle.
8. Plus don't forget binding vows.
Binding vow could change the game.
So, according to me out of 10, sukuna wins 7 times.
Thank you!!! He was spitting some nonsense lol viz translations are not good
Don't forget that, as shown in the sukuna vs kashimo fight, the World Cutting Dismantle does not have a travel time, it spawns in the target. Kashimo was only able to dodge because Sukuna litteraly warned him beforehand
@@completamenterealpontocom8206
Killua was able to stop nen fish that manifests in its target (so basically the same) by just using his reflexes,and Killua is not even in the same stratosphere of power with Meruem,I’m pretty sure he would be fine…
It does have a travel time, maki dodged it@@completamenterealpontocom8206
@@completamenterealpontocom8206it does have a travel time. Kashimo literally saw the WC dismantle wall going to him and Maki avoided it twice if I'm not mistaken (the first time, Sukuna tried to hide the sound of the incantations with the sound of the debris)
I’m glad you liked me email and the match up :) I didn’t know who would win either
yo whats his email?
New series idea i could see you doing justice for, crossverse abilities. Like for instance what would the hxh crew's cursed techniques/domains would be or like yu yu hakusho's crew abilities be in mar. Something goofy yet creative enough to get your brain working. Also thanks for the great video i always enjoy your perspective on things.
Verse equivalence makes sense though - the description of the power set is what matters
Not always. Sometimes the foundational rules of each universe unintentionally alter the axis of reality each opponent operates on.
Only when the base rules of the power systems are similar like CE and nen. But not when they are completely different like CE and haki or ki.
bruh meruem was literally almost killed by a regular ass bomb. guy is weak af.
I wouldn’t call a nuke a regular ass bomb, plus it was after taking multiple thousands of attacks and the zero hand. So he was already battle damaged
@@alastorrajin8565 he has a dull aching pain from Netero, far different than having all of your limbs blown off and being burnt to a crisp. Meruem took like 90% of 2 royal ants to survive the attack. He would not have survived otherwise.
AND YOU think Sukuna won't die by a Bomb .. You Crazy .
@krishpache7271 um.. sukuna can use rct.. so no he likely wouldn't die from a nuke.
My thing about the whole thing is that when you explain the world cutting slash you say it cuts gojo because limitless covers things targeting gojo and since the slash covered everything it hit him literally does mean it cut through the space the air and everything in between
But yuji’s resistance proved it wasn’t a cut all technique.
@@supermanblackeditionwhen did Yuji get hit by it?
@@BlaxkSun ch 251 after Yuji sees Megumi in the soul world. It’s small but you see him get hit along with Yuta
@@supermanblackedition ok but what didn’t it cut through? Yuta was the target and got hit and it went through him, while Rika and Yuji got hit with regular slashes. And even if we going with what you said, Yuji just got grazed.
@@supermanblackedition I mean it’s a target thing too I don’t think yujis more durable then yuta yuta was just probably the target
Maybe it is the translations I’ve read but my understanding of Sukunas world splitting slash is slightly different, the description i read in summary states that he pours extra cursed energy into his technique in order to extend the targeting condition of his slash massively, allowing him to change the rules of the technique almost, or I suppose push them to the limits, so instead of cutting an individual target, which obviously would be stopped stopped by infinity, he changes the target to anything that exists in the world, and bisects it which is how he cut gojo, because gojos body was just considered as an object within the world. it takes the slash to a dimensional level almost, especially if we hypothesise that the infinity didn’t stop it not because of the targeting circumventing it, but because it too was bisected when it was released, as gojos neutral application of the technique is also considered a physical ‘space’ within the world. It’s also interesting to me that Sukuna was able to release the attack without hand signs or incantations when he used it on gojo, it may have been an asspull to make it dramatic from gege, but gojo stated he had enough to use another hollow purple even if it was a smaller one, why would he have let Sukuna release the technique like that? Maybe the only reason he needs the incantations and hand signs at this point is because after killing gojo, he doesn’t have enough cursed energy to do it without amplifying the technique, and we even see a point of this as he only uses it once against kashimo and finishes the fight with the net of slashes, which wouldn’t make sense to be world splitting as he doesn’t chant or use hand signs, which he needed to do not 10 pages earlier, it is purely conjecture but I imagine a Sukuna at full power would be able to release the slashes like a regular dismantle, maybe not spam them since it’s likely energy intensive, but he has the highest amount of cursed energy ever seen, so he probably could also spam them lmao
Aaaaah my anti chimera ant king technique, that I hadn't use since the Heian era
Keep up the awesome work and videos Nick love the video
First off, Sukuna dodged Kashimo's EM Pulse, which is not lightning speed, but light speed. If Meruem blitzing Knuckle is impressive, I hope you consider that too.
Second, Sukuna can close his domain. That's GG for Meruem. Even if Meruem can tank the domain for a few seconds, what he definitely can't do is tanking thousands of hits per seconds while also trying to stop Sukuna's own attack, like, idk, a freaking Fire Arrow.
Third, you said that Meruem can blast Sukuna's away with his Rage Blast, and if Sukuna attempt a World Cutting Slash, Meruem won't let him. But you didn't considered the opposite? Would Sukuna let him charge up his Rage Blast? And wouldn't the Fire arrow Fuga be enough to gravely injure Meruem?
Forth, Sukuna World Cutting slash is describe as literally cutting the world, existence itself in the manga. It cut space. Period. It is clearly stated that in the manga, I don't know what you are talking about. And noted how Gojo with all the healing he has from RCT, can't survive the cut. If Meruem get hit with that, it's GG.
Fifth, "A hollow purple is what nearly killed him" is leaving a lot of things out of context. He survived the first purple, and mind you, with full incantation, 200% output, to the face, and comes out pretty much intact.
Sixth, Sukuna's flesh is in and of itself poison. If you said that Meruem's poison might kill him, you are believing that Meruem somehow will took less damage than Sukuna when the poison leaks from him, and is internal. By the time Sukuna develop anykind of symptoms of radiation sickness, Meruem's situation should already be 10 times worse.
And last but not least, RCT. I don't know how much you plan on ranking Meruem's metamorphosis's healing factor, it won't beat RCT.
So even if we equalize their stats, which you believe to be the case and justifiable, Sukuna just got too many more tools that can kill Meruem than Meruem can do to him.
And that is not even considered his 10 Shadows form.
where the fuck did you get that EM pulse is light speed rofl
where did you hear that meruem "wouldn't let" sukuna use a WCS as if he could, the argument is that meruem can tank ehough of them to blitz sukuna
what makes you think rage blast has a charge time, and fuga doesn't? rofl
meruem can use rage beams without any stated strain. the 200% output hollow purple required setup. WITH OTHER SORCERERS.
the "king of lethal poisons" shit is a known mistranslation, at least try to keep on top of the facts
"I don't know how much you plan on ranking Meruem's metamorphosis's healing factor, it won't beat RCT." Are you stupid? did you watch HxH? what exactly makes you think RCT is automatically better, because you dickride this hard for sukuna? The bodily changes of metamorphosis were pretty much instant on menthu, considering that meruem is a nen genius who took his subordinate's abilities to the next level, I very much doubt RCT, which DOES cause strain on sukuna after enough use, is better.
so, seethe
I picked Meruem on that poll you posted but lemme see whatchu think Nick 😁
Also one of Sukuna’s nicknames were “King of Poison’s” so I’m pretty sure the Poor Man’s Rose after effect wouldn’t get to Sukuna tbh
Amazing video
I really like these type of videos. Maybe more of these or power ranking more MCs, like your Solo Leveling video. Either way, love it, keep it up!
Not to hate on nick but the space slash was dismantle and it doesn’t cut behind anyone it cuts the space that they occupy which is why it can cut though anything cause it’s not cutting the object but the space in which it occupies
Sukuna's heaven and earth slash was described as a slash that rather than targeting a person, it targets space, which I assume refers to the fabric of space. So technically it would be able to do shit like ignore durability by cutting space itself therefore separating anyone within that space in half. Tbf it also says that the slash targets existence itself but I highly doubt it refers to existence erasure.
Another thing is that sukuna doesn't actually have a thousand years of combat experience because he was a bunch of fingers for most of it.
The most powerful bomb we humans ever detonated was the tsar bomb, that had a fireball diameter of 7km and caused massive destruction in a radius of 35km, with a destructive force of roughly 4000 little boy bombs. If you dropped that shit on New York, you could kill over 90% of the people, and effectively remove the city from the map, so a well-funded military has high-city level attacks available en masse. Not to mention that the tsar bomb was tested in 1961, we probably have much stronger thermonuclear bombs these days.
So the US modern military has continental level AP
Tsar bomba is at best mountain level AP, much higher destructive capacity though, just not anything crazy AP wise (in a fictional battle series at least. IRL mountain level cooks anybody and anything lmao)
@@theodorable1425 Is that Tsar-Bomba the single-biggest thing the 21 neutry has to offer?
If so, I'd still like to get more info out of you, like the 'lowest' and 'the average' after you maybe told me 'the biggest'
ALso, Tanks?
@@slevinchannel7589 well, the most powerful bomb that has been both created and tested was the Tsar Bomba in 1961, and had a yield of 50 megatons. It can blow up a mountain, but it wouldn’t be able to vaporize the mountain or anything, that would require FAR more energy than 50 megatons. The Tsar Bomba was also initially planned and designed to yield 100 megatons, but it was decided that they shouldn’t test such a powerful bomb. So, if we go with the initial design of the Tsar Bomba of 100 megatons, then if the bomb that Meruem survived is indeed based off of that bomb, then Meruem has Mountain to Large mountain level durability? I dunno I’m not a power scaler so I don’t have any calcs or anything, so I could be completely overestimating Meruem or completely underestimating him for all I know.
@@theodorable1425 The 'Vs Battles Wiki' is cricized for many things
but not for their 'Attack-Potency-Chart' which defines how much is what
Go read!!
I feel like Sukuna definitely wins this one
Domain Expansions are guaranteed hit effects which is why people don’t try and run from Sukuna’s domain expansion there’s no point you’re gonna get hit anyway even a couple of seconds in his domain without RCT will kill you.
It doesn’t matter if mereum has poisons Sukuna is the king of curses AND the King of Poisons which makes him canonically immune to all poisons.
If sukuna and Mereum are equal in speed as you said and sukuna has his 4 arms he can just do handsigns and chants with his extra set of limbs.
Fuga inside Sukuna’s domain also has a guaranteed hit effect so if he lands it mereum would likely die especially if he doesn’t have a healing factor.
There’s also the problem of what does mereum do against invisible slashes like the world slash and he may adapt but its not the same type of adaption that mahoraga does. Mahoraga adapts to concepts Mahoraga wasn’t adapting to Sukuna’s slashes in general but was adapting to the concept of being cut.
Sukuna also has plenty of years of EXP under his belt and is also a fighter who analyzes his opponents and destroys them slowly or quickly depending on how he feels.
Losing out on a healing factor being unable to avoid Sukuna’s guaranteed hit effects is kinda ass even Gojo required a way to not get instantly dealt via simple domain
I thought domains sure hit effect only works on people with xurse energy (maki and toji doesn't work) texhibslly meruem doesn't have current energy so shouldn't work right ?
@@deveous8629Except that Sukuna has an open domain
he can, covering yourself with nen works as a simple domain
@@deveous8629 sukuna’s domain expansion works on everything since his domain is open the trade off of it being an open domain is that it targets everything within the domain not just things with cursed energy
Its truly a divine technique god gives you a way out but can strip it away at anytime
@@emiliovalencia9383 nen works entirely different than simple domains but I guess?
I think you forgot Meruem’s biggest strength. His intellect, bro is an actual genius at 40 days old which is crazy
Notifications bell clutch 🤫🧏🏽♂️
you’re describing the slash wrong.
he’s cutting existence itself. the fabric of the universe that it’s target exists in.
maki dodging it lets us know it’s traveling at some tractable speed…
Are we ignoring the flame arrow nuke??
I want more JJK vids from you
I have to say your content gets better and better sukana is the ultimate menace the king of courses is ironically a very human villan
Just so u know nick i crave HxH content
Why have you never covered berserk? I want info and you're the only one I trust to give it to me
berserk is pretty straightforward, do you just want someone to hold your hand through it?😭
@@himher4856from what I've heard about Berserk, that may be necessary.
All you need to know is Griffith did nothing wrong🫡
I like verse equalization, but not neccesarily for the versus aspect. I like thinking about how certain powers mix with each-other. Like would Nen users see Stands since they're both invisible power systems? Would Haki bypass other magical abilities like Genjutsu like it does with Devil Fruits? Would Haki work as an equivalent to using simple domains in a domain expansion? If antimagic works on any power system, which abilities would it work on? What would happen if Asta picked up the Master Sword or a Stand Arrow or the 7 swords of the mist and made them into antimagic weapons? What if Gojo or Kakashi were given the other person's powers in addition to what they already got? Would it just be curse energy that works of Curses or would other powers like Chakra or Nen be effective as well? Would Domains and Mana Zones be some sorta equivalent? What Devil fruit users are capable of bypassing Gojo's Limitless? These things are more fun for me to thank about than calculation feats and stats to find out who punchie harder
Well sukuna basically chanted and fired a world cutting dismantle after kashino fired an EM wave to counter it, so its basically instantaneous, it doesnt need that much time
good vid do a jojo video
Could Mahoraga survive in the dark continent?
For real.
Oh i like this xD short version i guess it just depends on how well he adapts to the things there
He could survive for a while
It's nearly 2am rn I got work at 6 but this has my full undivided attention and I shall not regret it
This is why Nick the goat cause even tho this won’t happen , he still gives us 100 out of 10 scored videos usually
"To become the king of kings"
Better watch it, words like that are likely to arrouse the interests of Gilgemesh
Dont summon the gil wankers. 💀
We need more fate stuff around here. But even if it never comes this stuff nick is producing will due in its place. It's fun.
I think Nick would probably make AMAZING Fate videos. But I doubt he would want to look into all of craziness and universes and timelines that comes with it.
It's morphing time!
@@hunterk679 very fair. And I agree that he would probably make great Fate videos.
To see nick do a video like this just proves that he doesn’t really stand on shit
Who would want to... Stand on shit?
@@devonwarmack4726fair question
You forgot that the whole point of true form sukuna is that he has extra arm and mouth to do hand seals and chants therefore bypassing any potential interruptions to them.
My favorite youtuber of all time ❤❤❤.
When ya gonna talk about Tensura Nick? New season comes out in like a month. And Rimuru decimates both Meruem and Sukuna
He doesn't decimate em at best he'll just gobble em up but in all reality he'd send out the black numbers, the 4 heavenly kings, his supreme general benimaru, or Zegion no matter how you look at it they'd be far beneath our slime lords lvl to the point he'd just let his people draw straws to see gets the honor to clap the king of curses & King of ants
@@Jorge26367 amen. I don't think I'm caught up with the light novels but isn't Benimaru alone above Demon Lord level at this point
@@Dawesome97 depends on the demon you're talking about because Guy Crimson, Milim, Dagruel, & potentially Dino are stronger than benimaru but he'd most definitely solo all the other demon lords
We have yet to see Sukuna geet serious
@@Prodigal450 serious or not, he gets eaten by Rimuru
Ooooooooooooooo he broke his rule also first???
No your not first😅
32:33 hollow purple isn’t just a normal explosion. it’s a specific hax that is basically durability negation. the explosion size has nothing to do with the AP, just the range of the attack. You’ll see this is consistent with his durability as if you calculate the force of the black flash that he survived from Gojo, it would scale far higher than the destruction caused by the hollow purple bomb that he almost died to
Hey Nick awesome content, quick question have you seen Ninja Kamui? It's has the same director as JJK. So far it's really awesome.
I think Meruem will win
I feel like this overlooks a lot of context for Sukuna, as well as some misconceptions on how some his techniques work.
1. Domain Expansion - Three BIG things with this. One, it’s sure hits are Dismantle AND Cleave, allowing him to adjust his Cursed Energy to cut through something in a single blow. With Gojo, he was doing just that, Gojo was healing those slashes. Cleave was really the only thing effecting Gojo, as stated during Sukuna’s fight with Mahoraga, Cleave targets anything with Cursed Energy while Dismantle targets inanimate objects. All creatures aside from those with Heavenly Restrictions have Cursed Energy, which means it’s going to be the slash that lets Sukuna better cut through Meruem. Two, Sukuna can close the barrier if he wants to. So while Meruem can get away, it is likely Sukuna will close the domain if he gets the chance to use Domain Expansion again. Finally, Meruem might briefly avoid the sure hit, but it won’t last. As show in Kenjaku vs Yuki, Simple Domains can only last so long against a real Domain Expansion. So Meruem MIGHT last a few seconds, but soon the sure hits will come.
“But Meruem will Rage Blast Sukuna to death.”
2. Domain Amplification - This is a technique we’ve seen used as a shield for some techniques and a spear for others. Higuruma survived against the World Slash by utilizing Domain Amplification, therefore, Sukuna can likely use it to mitigate some damage as he approaches Meruem for a closed barrier domain.
3. World Slash - I think this was improperly explained. It cut everything around Gojo, not just behind him. Infinity did not matter because the space Gojo existed in was cut, and Gojo with it. I could see Meruem taking it but not without at LEAST some pretty major damage, if it doesn’t outright ignore durability. Higuruma dampened the techniques effect to neutralize it if you’re gonna argue it can be guarded against. Yes, but not in the traditional method.
Sukuna’s understanding of Sorcerery is the greatest we have seen. And with how many options are presented for Sukuna to use in a battle to negate and circumvent weaknesses, I think he wins more times than not.
I imagine Sukuna would likely find Meruem a good opponent. Maybe even better in some aspects than Sukuna.
But, Meruem is but an ant in Sukuna’s kitchen. A bit more lively than others, but still just an ant.
Thank you for voicing everything I was thinking! A lot of the context for Sukuna was lost in this video. Plus if we also take into fact that Sukuna has been stated to not even have shown his full power yet there's still more room for this to favor the King of curses
@@tristenjones7921 I forgot to mention that, too. We've seen the peak of Meruem supposedly, but Sukuna still has his entire techniques function hidden. We don't know how Fuga works, nor if he's got other stuff. Plus, we still don't know what Hiten (the spear Cursed Tool that he used with Kamutoke back in the Heian Era) does, too.
Oh, this is one I’ve actually thought about this one a lot before.
IMO I think Mereum wins just based off personality. Sukuna likes to play with his food and I think Meruem would open him up with his playfulness.
I think the beginning part of the video isn't really that accurate thare are a lot of characters that you can put up against each other and verse equalization wouldn't be needed and saying that two characters from different universes wouldn't be able to find an accurate way to fight doesn't make that much sense to me because they don't need to be immune to something in order to fight another character even example you showed wasn't even a good one since Naruto vs Luffy isn't even that complicated like am not even upset I just think the way you said this stuff is just really confusing like there are a lot of fun fights that you can make that aren't that complex
I feel like sukuna would win since mereum doesn’t have any actual powers! He’s just sort of strong and durable and that’s it.
He has a nen ability he just never developed it
And more over we still don't know anything about sukunas real CT😂
He has Aura synthesis
Brother did you not see him shoot a giant rage beam through a mountain? He takes other people’s abilities…..must not have finished the arc💀
@@zae_llama9111Pouf and Youpi willing gave Meruem their essence. He didn’t “take” anything. “Must’ve not finished the arc”🤡
1. Sukuna can close his domain. 2. Even if he escapes an open domain, Sukuna doesn’t have to restore his CT unless the domain is broken
need a death battle on this
Wait, isn't sukuna immune to poison though? Cause he's the king of curses AND poison for some reason?
Gojo vs Netero 👀
I don’t think that’s much of a debate
Idk if anyone in hunter hunter can bypass infinity except chrollo, welfin, and some other fringe characters that probably don’t have the durability to throw hands with gojo. Netero is sorta a one trick pony unfortunately
I think your analysis and final resolution is actually pretty fair. BUT, can you do CID vs SUKUNA..?
Sukuna>Atomic Bomb>Meruem
Yes sukuna f*cking tanking a hollow purple with pure physical durability (when gojo fire the last purple you can see maho was still there so sukuna can't used DA)
@@nirbanjyotidas5828not pure physical durability bcz he could still reinforced his body
lol. Do you even know how strong nuke was? It would vaporize sukuna for sure
Money over morals, what a surprise.
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i think you have to remember that sukuna went into that battle without a world ending slash and developed it on the fly against gojo, the man can ass-pull any technique.
I don't like cross anime fights either... But everytime I see you do 1 I Kinder get excited cz I know I'm about to get a serious information dump😂
Sukuna: Has been active for centuries at least, fought countless sorcerers and curses at the absolute peak of jujutsu history, has learned basically everything there is to know about cursed energy on top of his body being the optimal form for jujutsu sorcery, not to mention being able to hop bodies in order to snatch whatever technique he needs.
Meruem: 2 months old, spent most of that time eating and playing board games, never even got to develop a Hatsu. His first fight was vs. the strongest Nen user in the world and a literal nuke.
Atleast watch the video first
And let's not talk about sukunas durability... Holy in the manga sukuna is tanking literally anything all the characters can throw at him
@@shamgargabriel6093
Finished the video and it still doesnt make sense for Meruem to win ONE fight, let alone 7 out of 3 with a full fingered Sakuna when a 10-15 finger would probably be fitting to a post Rose Meruem.
1:10 bro why is this so accurate 😭💀
You forgot that since Meruem tanked a nuke from point blank and is easily capable of ripping off his own arm, that means that his ap scales above his nuclear durability, and this was only in base, which also matches up with Gon nuking Pitou and blowing away mountains, because Gon was stated to have equal aura to base Meruem… And Gon was so fast that lightning speed Killua could barely even see what was going on, meaning he was far beyond lightning speed
I am sorry but Nick that's not how the great dismantle which you called cleve works
It's is explained that it does not cut everything behind the person it cuts the space where the person exsist
And if it did work like that then why would he uses that attack against anybody but gojo if the great dismantle cut everything behind the person aka bypassing infinity then why would he need to use it against kasimo maki yuij or yuta it would not have been needed when it's just a stronger dismantle
28 secs no veiws and comments.... im sorry fam you fell off.
Sukuna Wins, Meruem a bitch
Watch the vid first please
Fr meruem got offed twice in like 5 min basically
@@shamgargabriel6093 there are many things that can be debunked which are stated by him
I disagree with your take on the slash. The official translations describe the slash as cutting existence itself. Not cutting behind gojo. And infinity doesn’t work that way either. Gojo just constantly has warped space around him that functions as infinite distance. He has to choose what to let it, it doesn’t activate when an attack is coming, it’s always active. So attacking behind him isn’t doing to just not get it to activate as it is always active. Sakuna can cut existence itself, as he said.
I feel like you underestimate Meruem's speed, he moved from inside the mansion to the hunters and knocked them out before they could even realize what happened, not even his royal guard could tell what just happened.
The distance he covered in a split second is insane.
Sukuna would win ez
How is he gonna win against someone who can destory mountains☠️
@@issactbhI mean durability bypassing attacks light speed reactions since he was able to fire a world slash before the light beam hit him
@@SHHHHH281 That wasn't a beam of light. And Nobody in JJK is light speed
Random proposition: could you do a few videos of That Time I Got Reincarnated As a Slime”?
Also, could one be comparing both main characters from Solo Leveling and TTIGRAAS?
So when do we get the freiren breakdown video? Especially after ep 25 would be a good discussion
City block is the lowest one can scale Sukuna, but you can get him much higher.
Middle interpretation is mountain/island level based off of Dagon and Jogo's DE.
High end is planetary using guide statement of him being capable of destroying the world and the Yuki black hole feat.
How can someone say things that are so wrong with such confidence is beyond me.
Never been this early 😎
24 minutes ago is absolutely insane let's go
Do more of these tbh
So were all concluding Nick can zip up the meruem jeans after the ride?
Great vid. My take is if Sukuna just removes the binding vow on the domain then Meruem can’t simply fly out. Also Sukuna’s slashes have been seen to deflect attacks as well, even if Sukuna leaves the domain open and Meruem fires his blast at range..that blast is liable to be chopped up before it even reaches Sukuna considering the infinite amount of slashes being let off in the domain. Let’s play with the power system a bit. Say Sukuna leaves the domain closed and then imbues it with the world cutting slash. Also the world cutting slash has the ability to target a desired space. Sukuna targeted the space Gojo existed in, that’s why it doesn’t matter what kind of “shield” you have, the slash will reach you.
Not only will it reach you but it will cut you because no matter how durable your body is, space itself isn't very durable it seems. If he's cutting the world itself then durability doesn't matter anymore.
You know its a great channel for amine info when the title isnt "dude vs other dude isn't even close" where if that was, it would be completely appropriate for this video💯💪🏿
Even with true form Sukuna there are two variations. The hypoethtical Hein Era Sukuna and the current World Slash Sukuna who is nerfed beyond repair and is still outstatting everyone in the verse and is apparantley "not even trying"
"Ah, yes, my poor man's rose bomb technique, I haven't used since the heian era"
A very happy and unexpected outcome😮
I'll ask again PLEASE DO TOJI VS HISOKA
We need to put this in death battle
I don't believe cleive is like a lot of cursed energy.i believe it's like .." If you can't erase a picture..tear the page"😂😂
cleave is a technique that adjusts to the targets defence
and moreover his existential slash is done by changing the target of the technique from his opponent to the space they are occupying.
your understanding of jjk is very flawed
But in the fight against Gojo sukuna states that he will open his domain but with a barrier thus he should be able to open the domain and trap meruem inside it which won’t immediately kill him but he would then not be able to escape as well as sukuna being in the domain with amped stats
I have to go with Merurm if it's a neutral writer. I think a lot of people forget that Meruem was fighting Netero with a handicap. At no point during the fight was Meruem trying to kill Netero. Meruem had to figure out a way to stop Netero just so he could figure out his name 😂.
The heaven and earth slash is the coolest thing I've heard that thing be called the anime should use that