Apparently the ergot theory of the Salem witch trials doesn't hold water with most scholars since the symptoms of ergot poisoning don't line up with what they described in the trials. The better explanation is that the puritans were deeply paranoid, believed in witchcraft, were societally prone to ostracizing others (remember we're talking about the scarlet letter people here) and were dealing with the cultural shock of King Phillips war, and last but not least believed torture was an effective interrogation technique. The better theory is that the witch trials caused by broadly the same societal pressures that caused things like the satanic panic of the 1980s or the red scare in the 50s.
Yeah, maybe they were upset because they were teenage girls in Puritan times, and had no civil rights? And being possessed by the Devil meant you could be the center of attention and do anything you want, without being punished?
When the entire town will burn a person over a rumor, crime without consequence is easily achievable. "How dare the neighbor's wife deny my creepy advances! I'm gonna spread a bunch of rumors that she's a witch!"
The problem with using the red scare as a parallel was...McCarthy was right. Not about the violating 1st amendment rights or the trials or any of those things, but that the USSR DID in fact have tons of spies in the US, the Soviets admitted to it decades later. McCarthy just did the exact opposite of what should've been done to do something about that, because all it did was make all the spies go underground where they'd be harder to find. Using the tactics of the enemy is not how you defeat them.
Pat's story with his mom and the bird reminds me of how people were like "OoOoh~ The curse of the Pharaoh oOoh~!" when Carter took 16 years to die after they opened Tutankhamun's tomb.
Catastrophe Snail! You melt it with salt before it climbs up your ear, or it will plug its computerized shell into your brain to tamper with your luckiness field.
I was told that it was tradition that said that “sitting on the third stair of a staircase will make you infertile.” How the hell is that a valid problem that warranted tradition? XD
God, I remember hearing that spilled salt is bad luck, and the "solution" is to throw some over your shoulder. Once I encountered this out in the field, I thought "might as well" and tossed some salt over my shoulder.... directly in somebody's face. I decided that perhaps superstition was not for me.
@@Tarage Yes. Being anti-superstition is fine, being anti-tradition is dumb. Unless you have a good reason for removing something (and not being aware of a reason for it to exist isn't a good reason), you shouldn't advocate for it's removal. When people go "I don't understand it, your way of doing things is stupid and you shouldn't do them" to another people, we call it cultural genocide. You shouldn't commit cultural suicide either.
A traditionalist government is a necrocracy. G.K. Chesterton, the traditionalist thinker behind "Chesterton's Fence", believed this literally: "Tradition may be defined as an extension of the franchise [to vote]. Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking about. All democrats object to men being disqualified by the accident of birth; tradition objects to their being disqualified by the accident of death."
Regarding tradition based on common sense, I adore how the Air Forces make it so you don't get to pick your own callsign. Your fellow pilots assign one to you. So it's usually a nickname based on your name, your face, or the most embarrassing thing you've ever been seen doing in public. Based on that, I suspect that Maverick from Top Gun is the world's saltiest Mega Man X player.
With that in mind, now I'm wondering if Strangereal - or at least Osea - works under the same logic. We can make an educated guess as to why Trigger is called Trigger (probably for being a _trigger_ happy guy) but I'd like to know the story behind callsigns like Blaze, or... actually, just the Wardog Squadron in general.
Traditions ARE stupid. But memories are cool, and cross generational memories/shared experiences are rare so its hard to judge people for manufacturing them. Like blowing cinnamon while thinking of your hopes and dreams for the new year, and knowing your great grandma ALSO blew cinnamon while thinking the same is more magical than throwing cinnamon down a hallway to affect causality is stupid imo.
I mostly agree with this. You don't have to be superstitious to appreciate a ritual as something meditative and/or therapeutic. Pat should understand this as someone with OCD. Similarly, it becomes a problem when it goes from being either of those things to a source of distress somehow.
This talk reminds me of a comment in the old Dark Souls 3 LP in which Woolie discussed the same "Cheers" origin. The commenter said that one day we'll learn twerking is actually to reveal you aren't holding guns in your ass, and that is the lens I view all traditions now.
Just regarding the thumbnail - the whole point of Tevye’s character arc in Fiddler on the Roof is that following old traditions to the letter is stupid and bad. It costs him his relationship with two of his daughters, nearly loses a third, and only saves his marriage by breaking the norms and asking his wife (from an arranged marriage) if she loves him. The moral of the whole show is that it does not matter how you pray, or live, or even love, but whether what you’re doing truly speaks to you.
Pat's mom misunderstood the point of the superstition. It's not supposed to be that the bird killed the uncle, it's supposed to be that the bird is a sign of an incoming death. Sort of like how meteorologists can predict the weather, but with generalized death instead... Well, if you believe in that sort of thing, anyways.
The more particular Roman flavor comes from just hiding a knife in the sleeve of your tunic with your dominant hand being so easily missed that people want some assurance seeing that hand and grabbing it.
no joke, when I was young (around the mid 90's), my grandfather had an old farmers almanac from his grandpa's days (I think like late 1890 or something) and while I was looking through it had definitions of farming terms and this is where I found out that the "Grim Reaper" actually started off as a REALLY OLD farming term, like middle ages type thing. In the days when you farmed to feed your family, if you had a bad harvest where no food got produced and people starved to death, than you were called a "Grim Reaper" in person or after your own death because your bad farming got everyone killed, this term later got incorporated in Tarot cards and continued on from there......I learned this in a paperback booklet that was 4 times older than I am now XD
The only tradition that i personally adhere to is to clean up my room and do all the things i said i'll do before new year, like throwing some old garbage out or sort out a cupboard or something in that category. Because it's practical and help you focus on extranious silly things you said you'll do next year. And it's nice to not worry about that stuff for couple of days.
Well 'tradition" part is to "not to bring all the trash into a next year" or something like that. The whole "Start from a clean slate" idea. My personal justification is that it's just good practice to be done with everything before end of a year.
I saw a “tradition” being made up real-time by my Mom, when we recently were about to return from a camping trip together and she told me it’s “bad luck” not to shower before a trip, when the reality was she just wanted me to shower before we were stuck in a car together, because I got sweaty helping load all our stuff into the car. Which I usually would be fine with except we had put away pretty much all our stuff for showering and I would have to get out of the shower and navigate the cabin barefoot since we put away most of the towels and all the slippers, which I really didn’t wanna do, but I guess we couldn’t risk the bad luck, lol!
There is a parable about this sort of nonsense: When the spiritual teacher and his followers would gather in the evening for meditation, the cat that lived at the monastery would make too much noise for them to concentrate. So the teacher began to tie the cat up each evening before meditation. This allowed everyone to concentrate without distraction. Before long, tying up the cat became part of the meditation ritual. Eventually, the cat died, and so a new cat was found that they could tie up before evening meditation
Apparently it's bad luck to open an umbrella when indoors. That's a small nugget of "wisdom" my mom told me when I did it once. I just stared at her and "Uh, sure".
I imagine that one was made so dumbass kids don't knock stuff over in the house when opening them, or to avoid them spraying droplets everywhere after they had used them outside.
I assume it's because if you open a wet umbrella it'll splash rain water all over the room. Especially when you have a nice umbrella that when it opens it pops out like a slingshot.
@@johnrivers3813 Which is hilarious when we stop to think that maybe simply explaining to the person that it would splash water around the room and maybe knock something over would be a more effective way to convince someone not to open an umbrella indoors... _but putting the fear of god on someone with some bad juju bullshit often gets you better results._
So actually the other day I was messing with a new umbrella in my room, and I accidentally opened it and saw the tip of one of the metal rods miss my eye by a matter of inches. And I stood there thinking "Maybe this is how the superstition started..."
The ancient Greece "OPA!" thing is also so that if they keep breaking their plates and buying new ones then the village plate craftsman will always have gainful employment
Woolie talking mad crap about all these luck bringing actions when he was the one that got 0-10 by jebailey. We all know Jeb did ALL of the luck actions to ensure his 10-0 streak Woolie will also NEVER catch a pokemon cause he is the guy that would never mash the a button to ensure a catch.
That story about the bird kinda reminds me of something my college anthropology professor said about witchcraft. Where these tribal people (I forget where off the top of my head, I think in South America) would make the distinction that if a tree falls on your house, that's just bad luck/a coincidence because stuff like that happens when you live in a forest. But if a tree falls on your house while someone was in it, then that is witchcraft because someone could have been hurt.
As someone who's into witchcraft stuff: The reason for anything involving spices is a mix of how, until basically the 1800s, spices in the western hemisphere were super expensive as they almost all came from India and Asia, and also how spices generally preserve food and were THE way to make food last before refrigeration. So you take something valuable that preserves and use it for magic stuff.
Some of these just sound like severe OCD that people just decided to roll with and call good luck or magic instead of just inane things that people with OCD are compelled to do or else they feel like they'll die.
My entire family on my mother's side lose their shit when a male member of the family or guest exits the building through the back door I'm talking violently shouting and screaming to go out the front door because "THE GROOMS WILL LEAVE."
My aunt, who i mostly only see at the end of the year celebrations, had a tradition of asking me pretty much every time we saw each other in said celebrations "hey, did you get a girlfriend, did you have sex?" jokingly. However, this year, literaly as soon as she Saw me, she said "hey, you finaly had sex!", wich is not wrong, but, i didnt tell anyone in my family about that, *SO HOW DID SHE FIGURE THAT OUT?*
One of these days, you seriously need to ask her to get a job, a better job, or a hobby. Because why is anyone this obsessed with clocking someone else's genitals/sex life? Especially from an older family member. 😭
Fun fact Vampires are thought to have actually been people suffering from porphyria a couple side effects of it are sensitive skins that burns easily from sunlight and red/brown pigments on the teeth and/or bones
the only traditions i really got from my Grandma were making Springerle cookies for christmas, and Hopping John (basically beans and ham) for new years for good luck. I was always like "alright grandma whatever you say cuz this is delicious"
I remember in the Southeast US you ate blackeye peads, collard greens, and cornbread on New Years Eve for luck. Collard greens for money, cornbread for gold, and black eye peas for I don't remember.
I think the cinnamon out the door might be to keep out ants since for some weird ass reason cinnamon fucks with ants. So Paige just like napalmed a bunch of ants.
If you read/listen to Irish folktales and Norse sagas during Christianization, the Power of The Lord Alongside Weird Grandma Shit has a long & storied history.
when i was a kid, nick news with linda elerbee would have a segment where they talked about weird holidays for each day, and the first day of every month was rabbit rabbit day.
Well of COURSE the bird didn't kill your great uncle, Pat. It was merely an omen. Common mix-up, tbh. On a more serious note, in terms of "home remedies" at least, I read somewhere the theory that because medieval doctors couldn't diagnose, much less treat, ailments that had no discernible cause (for example, cancer), they would just make up bullshit so the patient would feel like they were being helped, and have hope. Maybe there was a bit of placebo effect in there, who knows. Idk how true that it but it's a nice thought.
Saw someone sweep another guys shoes on accident he said "Hey man!" Snatched the broom out his hands and spit on it, looked at the fella and gave it back.
you can not defeat magical thinking in humans, no matter how logical society becomes people will always believe that invisible forces make the world go around.
The thing about the Salem witch trials is that it was not primarily influenced by wheat. The main thing that enabled it was a complete collapse of the government and...basically it was "The Purge" with more steps. This was in the colonial era where your local government needed express permission of the king to run things. The last administration had failed to get their contract renewed, and the king later had to appoint a new governor. However, the ENITIRE LEGAL SYSTEM also lapsed with the lapse in contract. So in between the administrations, a person could get accused and locked up, but there was no court to try them, so they just sat in jail. Which seems great if you fucking hate your neighbor and want him gone for months. Now, the governor saw the backlog of people in jail, and he decided to appoint someone to handle the backlog of cases. However... this created a new problem because his governor had not created any laws - since he has to start from scratch. So they didn't have any rules on what you were supposed to do- and not do- at trial. So it was perfectly legal to claim that your neighbor came into your dream as a ghost and talked about how great Satan was. That was perfectly valid evidence that could be used to hang someone. Which is great if you REALLY FUCKING HATE your neighbor and also wanted to buy his farm when it went up for auction. So... yeah. FUCKING THE PURGE.
In my house growing up, it was bad luck to sweep someone's feet with the broom. Also, have money in your pocket for new year's it brings good fortune for the year.
Because it is dumb, but it is FUN that is dumb. Stuff that just wants to make sure you are all good. Stuff for luck and good fortune is dumb sure, but how do you know it wont work?. It is all about mindset really and the traditions can help put you on the mindset you need sometimes.
I think it's less that traditions are necessarily stupid and that superstitions themselves are stupid. Not all traditions are superstitious after all(i.e. Opa!).
Apparently there’s a theory that black cats were unlucky (which they are instead lucky in the uk) because one of the first thing that would get off a pirate ship when it was invading was the cats, so when people saw black cats roaming around they would know pirates might be coming (and also in England pirates later on became hired by the government as buccaneers so I guess black cats bring fortune literally) Then even dropping salt is considered bad luck because salt used to be very expensive. Roman soldiers used to be paid partially in salt (and that seems to be the origin of the word salary) So I guess bad and good luck are general shorthands for when you don’t know how to explain net positives or negatives
Only superstition I follow is to avoid going under ladders But that is just more of a practical thing. Saying gedsunteit after someone sneezes is just a knee jerk reaction
The only tradition our family does is Christmas, we hire a friend of the family to dress up as Santa and visit all the children on Christmas Eve during our family holiday party to give them a Christmas present early Makes the kids feel special that Santa stops in on his busiest day just for them 😊
17:31 and unfortunately that means in the ST world, everything cool from fiction is gone, and people are only interested in the lame played out bullshit that’s already non-trademarked and available to all for free Also my face when I hear sincere discussion about making those poor people villages and people actually think it’s a good idea somehow
to add : pat talks about his mom see a bird fly in the house means someone is passing away in my family when dreams about fishing and caching a fish it means someone is having a Baby
Tradition is culture. Not all traditions are good, not all cultures are good. But the ones that are fine don't need to throw out traditions just because some people don't get it. Holidays themselves are traditions, celebrating birthdays are traditions, funerals are traditions. Honoring each other, our lives, and our cultures isn't a problematic thing, it's beautiful. If you hate traditions, good for you, you don't get to ruin it for the rest of us that like them.
@@Serahpin i mean... in some cases yes, but others no. For instance the hand on the heart/hand in the air showing you have no weapons, or not walking under ladders for safety reasons... but others, like throwing salt over your shoulder??? being afraid of black cats? seems like games to make life more interesting when bored. Like they are of a type with "the floor is lava" or stepping on a crack in the sidewalk means bad luck.
@@dnd402 Yes, some traditions become obsolete. Chesterton’s Fence: "There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, “I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.” To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: “If you don’t see the use of it, I certainly won’t let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.”"
@@Serahpin I've seen the quote before, and it seems like a real good way for nothing to get done. I'm sure glad someone who is actively against modernity and progress "may allow us" to do things, only if we can prove to them personally we should be allowed to. Surely there wont just be another person feeling the same way also not allowing us to, meaning that it'll take 20 years of presentations and explanations to convince them all. Genuinely the idea this quote is backing is so bad, its like "never change anything ever things are great as they are, unless you can really convince me otherwise" its incredibly Boomery. Going to use a political example here because its specifically mentioned in the quote that the speaker is talking about politics but using a gate as an example. Imagine a law saying, for instance, that LGBT people can be denied service at any store, for the reason of being LGBT. should we listen to this guy who says "tell me the good reasons why this law is good, and until you can we won't get rid of it, and even then I may not allow you to do so." Genuinely some real bad do nothing bureaucrat takes from the origonal author of the quote.
So here's a new tradition that I learned about this year that I was hereforto unaware of: To increase your love life potential, you have to get under a table and eat 12 grapes the night before new years For some fucking reason?! I dunno why!!
Traditions are the practices that remind people they're part of a relatively unified society cemented by shared experiences over time. Losing them sacrifices something from that connection and turns us into something less.
We have lost many traditions over the course of history, and nothing was lost. many other new ones took their place, and we will continue to create new ones that fit our new sensibilities.
@@caiopatric I think they're referring more to the sentiment that "traditions are stupid, and you're stupid if you do them" that some people seem to believe.
@@SilencedBTM that's fair. i respect the things people do in their own lives, i just wanted to make sure we're avoiding the idea that everything in society has to be conserved, including some very bitter ignorant sentiments that people still hold.
@@caiopatric For sure, I just feel like some people who always say things like that come across like "Traditions are stupid, therefore because I think this way, I am way smarter than these simpletons". Like the dudes who bragged about their high IQ due to getting jokes in Rick and Morty or something.
I always thought that the Clone Wars was a time where they cloned Jedi and indoctrinated them into the Empire. Not Sith, Jedi who think even harder that they're right, and the original.
Apparently the ergot theory of the Salem witch trials doesn't hold water with most scholars since the symptoms of ergot poisoning don't line up with what they described in the trials. The better explanation is that the puritans were deeply paranoid, believed in witchcraft, were societally prone to ostracizing others (remember we're talking about the scarlet letter people here) and were dealing with the cultural shock of King Phillips war, and last but not least believed torture was an effective interrogation technique. The better theory is that the witch trials caused by broadly the same societal pressures that caused things like the satanic panic of the 1980s or the red scare in the 50s.
I'd be willing to bet that lead was also involved. Any time people start getting violent and stupid, lead is typically involved somewhere.
Or basically caused by Angels like in Bayonetta lmao
Yeah, maybe they were upset because they were teenage girls in Puritan times, and had no civil rights? And being possessed by the Devil meant you could be the center of attention and do anything you want, without being punished?
When the entire town will burn a person over a rumor, crime without consequence is easily achievable. "How dare the neighbor's wife deny my creepy advances! I'm gonna spread a bunch of rumors that she's a witch!"
The problem with using the red scare as a parallel was...McCarthy was right. Not about the violating 1st amendment rights or the trials or any of those things, but that the USSR DID in fact have tons of spies in the US, the Soviets admitted to it decades later. McCarthy just did the exact opposite of what should've been done to do something about that, because all it did was make all the spies go underground where they'd be harder to find. Using the tactics of the enemy is not how you defeat them.
Pat's story with his mom and the bird reminds me of how people were like "OoOoh~ The curse of the Pharaoh oOoh~!" when Carter took 16 years to die after they opened Tutankhamun's tomb.
But he did eventually die…
*CURSE OF RA*
When I die my last words will be "The Woolie Hole cursed me"
Also yeah, people who made a career out of opening coffins so they could handle moldy rotting corpses sometimes got sick, what a shock.
@@TheProphessionalGeek I mean, it'd be weirder if he never died.
Everyone on that expedition has since died. EXPLAIN THAT ATHEISTS
If you spill salt, be sure to toss some over your shoulder to blind Slug Satan
That is real slug Satan is always waiting to GET CHA
Piccolo: "AW FUCK, MY EYES!"
Isn't this a Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy episode or am I insane?
@@supersaiyanyamcha2665 Can confirm, Billy tossed pepper instead of salt and hijinx insue
Catastrophe Snail! You melt it with salt before it climbs up your ear, or it will plug its computerized shell into your brain to tamper with your luckiness field.
Yall talk shit, but when a Sea Bear attacks, that circle is a lifesaver.
Remember to say "bless you" when someone sneezes so the devil doesn't steal your soul from your nostrils
I thought it was because sneezing is a sign of illnesses, and they thought you might die.
@@deanospimoniful no because that actually makes sense
@@deanospimonifulit’s actually that they thought that it was a sign of evil spirits leaving the body or something like that
I think it was believed that your heart temporarily stopped when you sneezed, and you were therefore technically dead, which made your soul fair game.
As a Devil, I can confirm that this is true.
Traditions are what we call solutions when the problem has been forgotten.
I am sharing that
I was told that it was tradition that said that “sitting on the third stair of a staircase will make you infertile.”
How the hell is that a valid problem that warranted tradition? XD
@@insanemindset2667 easy it’s not about fertility. It’s about not sitting on the stairs. David!
99% of traditions are inane bullshit, don't fall for fascist propaganda
Alternatively, tradition is peer pressure from the dead.
God, I remember hearing that spilled salt is bad luck, and the "solution" is to throw some over your shoulder. Once I encountered this out in the field, I thought "might as well" and tossed some salt over my shoulder.... directly in somebody's face. I decided that perhaps superstition was not for me.
You blessed that person's face tho
Woolie’s war on society has transcended his hang ups with religion and gone into his hang ups with traditions
Both Woolie and Pat are going to have a moment when they either choose a “Destiny” route or a Redemption route.
Is he wrong tho?
@@Tarage Yes. Being anti-superstition is fine, being anti-tradition is dumb. Unless you have a good reason for removing something (and not being aware of a reason for it to exist isn't a good reason), you shouldn't advocate for it's removal. When people go "I don't understand it, your way of doing things is stupid and you shouldn't do them" to another people, we call it cultural genocide. You shouldn't commit cultural suicide either.
@objectivelybad if a culture has bad or harmful practices then it would be entirely reasonable to want those practices gone
@@mugsmcratmin6842 real, fully agree
Traditions are the peer pressure you get from the long dead.
A traditionalist government is a necrocracy. G.K. Chesterton, the traditionalist thinker behind "Chesterton's Fence", believed this literally:
"Tradition may be defined as an extension of the franchise [to vote]. Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking about. All democrats object to men being disqualified by the accident of birth; tradition objects to their being disqualified by the accident of death."
Regarding tradition based on common sense, I adore how the Air Forces make it so you don't get to pick your own callsign. Your fellow pilots assign one to you. So it's usually a nickname based on your name, your face, or the most embarrassing thing you've ever been seen doing in public.
Based on that, I suspect that Maverick from Top Gun is the world's saltiest Mega Man X player.
My favorite Pilot was POTUS
President of the United States?
No!
Puked on the Ugly Stripper.
And Iceman probably got locked in a freezer or meat truck or something funny in the winter.
@@MarioGMan25 I don't even wanna theorize where Goose got his name.
@@lexofexcel886 Probably something to do with always happens between Geese and planes....
Or, hopefully, something more akin to Untitled Goose Game.
With that in mind, now I'm wondering if Strangereal - or at least Osea - works under the same logic.
We can make an educated guess as to why Trigger is called Trigger (probably for being a _trigger_ happy guy) but I'd like to know the story behind callsigns like Blaze, or... actually, just the Wardog Squadron in general.
Traditions ARE stupid.
But memories are cool, and cross generational memories/shared experiences are rare so its hard to judge people for manufacturing them.
Like blowing cinnamon while thinking of your hopes and dreams for the new year, and knowing your great grandma ALSO blew cinnamon while thinking the same is more magical than throwing cinnamon down a hallway to affect causality is stupid imo.
I mostly agree with this. You don't have to be superstitious to appreciate a ritual as something meditative and/or therapeutic. Pat should understand this as someone with OCD. Similarly, it becomes a problem when it goes from being either of those things to a source of distress somehow.
So in short traditions are just mind goblins
"It's the Salem Witch TRIALS not the Salem Witch Hunt." - Patrick "Boxer Revolution" Boivin.
This talk reminds me of a comment in the old Dark Souls 3 LP in which Woolie discussed the same "Cheers" origin. The commenter said that one day we'll learn twerking is actually to reveal you aren't holding guns in your ass, and that is the lens I view all traditions now.
Just regarding the thumbnail - the whole point of Tevye’s character arc in Fiddler on the Roof is that following old traditions to the letter is stupid and bad. It costs him his relationship with two of his daughters, nearly loses a third, and only saves his marriage by breaking the norms and asking his wife (from an arranged marriage) if she loves him.
The moral of the whole show is that it does not matter how you pray, or live, or even love, but whether what you’re doing truly speaks to you.
Pat's mom misunderstood the point of the superstition.
It's not supposed to be that the bird killed the uncle, it's supposed to be that the bird is a sign of an incoming death.
Sort of like how meteorologists can predict the weather, but with generalized death instead... Well, if you believe in that sort of thing, anyways.
People do like to blame the messenger, tho
@@Mantis47 It do be like that sometimes.
Mothman do the murder or warn the murder?
@@TealWolf26 Maybe the real murders were the friends we made along the way.
Man I love people in the past retroactively deciding they knew all along
Woolie talking about weird granma superstitions sounds like stuff that Rolf would do in Ed Edd n' Eddy.
Rolf almost murdered Eddy in ritual combat over this kinda shit!
Handshakes are a greeting because you are leading with your sword wielding hand and have to come in peace
Me, a lefty, making people feel like my left handed shake is a power move and attempt to play mind games
The more particular Roman flavor comes from just hiding a knife in the sleeve of your tunic with your dominant hand being so easily missed that people want some assurance seeing that hand and grabbing it.
Waving at someone is literally saying "look at this weapon I don't have."
🤔 "...Maybe the virus knew that." 😌🤝
And suddenly, the stigma much of the ancient world had against left-handedness suddenly makes a lot more sense.
I mean as stupid as that is, I think I kinda like that. It's something memorable that you can look back as a funny thing you did with your family.
no joke, when I was young (around the mid 90's), my grandfather had an old farmers almanac from his grandpa's days (I think like late 1890 or something) and while I was looking through it had definitions of farming terms and this is where I found out that the "Grim Reaper" actually started off as a REALLY OLD farming term, like middle ages type thing. In the days when you farmed to feed your family, if you had a bad harvest where no food got produced and people starved to death, than you were called a "Grim Reaper" in person or after your own death because your bad farming got everyone killed, this term later got incorporated in Tarot cards and continued on from there......I learned this in a paperback booklet that was 4 times older than I am now XD
"We just take things and just do things with them and go 'Thing, Important thing!'"'
That's basically life.
The only tradition that i personally adhere to is to clean up my room and do all the things i said i'll do before new year, like throwing some old garbage out or sort out a cupboard or something in that category. Because it's practical and help you focus on extranious silly things you said you'll do next year. And it's nice to not worry about that stuff for couple of days.
Generally speaking, if you know why you're doing something, it isn't really a tradition. Traditions are, "I don't know. We always did it this way."
Well 'tradition" part is to "not to bring all the trash into a next year" or something like that. The whole "Start from a clean slate" idea. My personal justification is that it's just good practice to be done with everything before end of a year.
@@deanospimonifulIt doesn't stop being a tradition just because you know the reason for doing it.
when they get to episode 1000 they should just change the name to Castle Super Beast EX episode 001
Super Castle Super Beast: Arcade Edition
Castle Hyper Beast
Castle New Game+
These thumbnails are so good
Combined with the titles its a real guessing game as to what in the hell my boys talking bout today
"Don't do laundry on new years eve or day or a loved one will die in the coal mines that week" and yeah pork and beans is good luck apparently.
I'm taking notes for when I'm a gruncle and I wanna do bits to prank my great nephews.
I saw a “tradition” being made up real-time by my Mom, when we recently were about to return from a camping trip together and she told me it’s “bad luck” not to shower before a trip, when the reality was she just wanted me to shower before we were stuck in a car together, because I got sweaty helping load all our stuff into the car. Which I usually would be fine with except we had put away pretty much all our stuff for showering and I would have to get out of the shower and navigate the cabin barefoot since we put away most of the towels and all the slippers, which I really didn’t wanna do, but I guess we couldn’t risk the bad luck, lol!
All of that nonsense instead of “hey go shower before we go “
There is a parable about this sort of nonsense: When the spiritual teacher and his followers would gather in the evening for meditation, the cat that lived at the monastery would make too much noise for them to concentrate. So the teacher began to tie the cat up each evening before meditation. This allowed everyone to concentrate without distraction. Before long, tying up the cat became part of the meditation ritual. Eventually, the cat died, and so a new cat was found that they could tie up before evening meditation
I took a meditation class and the first thing they taught us was how to distance yourself from outside distractions and noises.
The bird flying into the house was actually a sign that someone in the house needed to become a Bird person of some sort. Have you never read Batman?"
That person has to also be afraid of birds.
pat's entire extended family stepping over him
Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery" made me a perpetual traditions hater.
One of the very few times I actually appreciated my literature classes.
Apparently it's bad luck to open an umbrella when indoors. That's a small nugget of "wisdom" my mom told me when I did it once. I just stared at her and "Uh, sure".
I imagine that one was made so dumbass kids don't knock stuff over in the house when opening them, or to avoid them spraying droplets everywhere after they had used them outside.
I assume it's because if you open a wet umbrella it'll splash rain water all over the room. Especially when you have a nice umbrella that when it opens it pops out like a slingshot.
@@johnrivers3813 Which is hilarious when we stop to think that maybe simply explaining to the person that it would splash water around the room and maybe knock something over would be a more effective way to convince someone not to open an umbrella indoors... _but putting the fear of god on someone with some bad juju bullshit often gets you better results._
So actually the other day I was messing with a new umbrella in my room, and I accidentally opened it and saw the tip of one of the metal rods miss my eye by a matter of inches. And I stood there thinking "Maybe this is how the superstition started..."
This is like Mechanicus rituals to flip a switch on a router
As someone who has had to eat blackeyed peas on every new year because of superstitious parents this hit hard
Especially if you didn't like black-eyed peas.
Don’t you live having to submit to other peoples insanity?
The ancient Greece "OPA!" thing is also so that if they keep breaking their plates and buying new ones then the village plate craftsman will always have gainful employment
Pat, you have mind goblins.
Some traditions may be stupid, but are funny as hell.
I vaguely remember that rabbit thing from my childhood and my stepdad does black-eyed peas for new years.
Careful with the title or Benny Shapeepee might challenge you to a debate
Finally, with an opponent like Pat Ben can pick on somebody his own size.
Woolie talking mad crap about all these luck bringing actions when he was the one that got 0-10 by jebailey.
We all know Jeb did ALL of the luck actions to ensure his 10-0 streak
Woolie will also NEVER catch a pokemon cause he is the guy that would never mash the a button to ensure a catch.
That story about the bird kinda reminds me of something my college anthropology professor said about witchcraft. Where these tribal people (I forget where off the top of my head, I think in South America) would make the distinction that if a tree falls on your house, that's just bad luck/a coincidence because stuff like that happens when you live in a forest. But if a tree falls on your house while someone was in it, then that is witchcraft because someone could have been hurt.
Hating Tradition is when you don't have personnal attachment to an stupid thing you didn't came up with.
As someone who's into witchcraft stuff: The reason for anything involving spices is a mix of how, until basically the 1800s, spices in the western hemisphere were super expensive as they almost all came from India and Asia, and also how spices generally preserve food and were THE way to make food last before refrigeration. So you take something valuable that preserves and use it for magic stuff.
Can't believe the Italian grandmas throwing knives at the wall one didn't come up
Some of these just sound like severe OCD that people just decided to roll with and call good luck or magic instead of just inane things that people with OCD are compelled to do or else they feel like they'll die.
My entire family on my mother's side lose their shit when a male member of the family or guest exits the building through the back door
I'm talking violently shouting and screaming to go out the front door because "THE GROOMS WILL LEAVE."
What grooms
My aunt, who i mostly only see at the end of the year celebrations, had a tradition of asking me pretty much every time we saw each other in said celebrations "hey, did you get a girlfriend, did you have sex?" jokingly.
However, this year, literaly as soon as she Saw me, she said "hey, you finaly had sex!", wich is not wrong, but, i didnt tell anyone in my family about that, *SO HOW DID SHE FIGURE THAT OUT?*
One of these days, you seriously need to ask her to get a job, a better job, or a hobby. Because why is anyone this obsessed with clocking someone else's genitals/sex life? Especially from an older family member. 😭
@@Velvetx4cove dude, she never said it seriously, it was just a bad joke.
"ITS ME AUSTIN! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG AUSTIN!"
@@arthurgomes5188you’re damned right it was 😂😅
Fun fact Vampires are thought to have actually been people suffering from porphyria a couple side effects of it are sensitive skins that burns easily from sunlight and red/brown pigments on the teeth and/or bones
And maybe gum retraction or whatever they call it, making teeth look way bigger
the only traditions i really got from my Grandma were making Springerle cookies for christmas, and Hopping John (basically beans and ham) for new years for good luck. I was always like "alright grandma whatever you say cuz this is delicious"
I think it would have been cool is both sides during the clone wars used clone soldiers.
I remember in the Southeast US you ate blackeye peads, collard greens, and cornbread on New Years Eve for luck. Collard greens for money, cornbread for gold, and black eye peas for I don't remember.
Like a 60/40 chance we have an equivalent event like the bell riots in the US
I think the cinnamon out the door might be to keep out ants since for some weird ass reason cinnamon fucks with ants. So Paige just like napalmed a bunch of ants.
I don’t think my family has a single explicit tradition followed, aside from the usual bullshit we do
If you read/listen to Irish folktales and Norse sagas during Christianization, the Power of The Lord Alongside Weird Grandma Shit has a long & storied history.
when i was a kid, nick news with linda elerbee would have a segment where they talked about weird holidays for each day, and the first day of every month was rabbit rabbit day.
Well of COURSE the bird didn't kill your great uncle, Pat. It was merely an omen. Common mix-up, tbh.
On a more serious note, in terms of "home remedies" at least, I read somewhere the theory that because medieval doctors couldn't diagnose, much less treat, ailments that had no discernible cause (for example, cancer), they would just make up bullshit so the patient would feel like they were being helped, and have hope. Maybe there was a bit of placebo effect in there, who knows. Idk how true that it but it's a nice thought.
Saw someone sweep another guys shoes on accident he said "Hey man!" Snatched the broom out his hands and spit on it, looked at the fella and gave it back.
you can not defeat magical thinking in humans, no matter how logical society becomes people will always believe that invisible forces make the world go around.
I mean, the forces keeping the world spinning *are* invisible.
@@kodymcbride6901unfortunately that’s exactly the reason they would use. This shit loves unverifiable claims
Our tradition is leaving the Christmas decorations including trees up and displayed until New Year's Day for good luck all year.
I can explain the reach of Rabbit, Rabbit.
Nickelodeon had an interstitial ad that would tell kids about Rabbit, Rabbit on the first of the Month.
The thing about the Salem witch trials is that it was not primarily influenced by wheat. The main thing that enabled it was a complete collapse of the government and...basically it was "The Purge" with more steps. This was in the colonial era where your local government needed express permission of the king to run things. The last administration had failed to get their contract renewed, and the king later had to appoint a new governor. However, the ENITIRE LEGAL SYSTEM also lapsed with the lapse in contract. So in between the administrations, a person could get accused and locked up, but there was no court to try them, so they just sat in jail. Which seems great if you fucking hate your neighbor and want him gone for months.
Now, the governor saw the backlog of people in jail, and he decided to appoint someone to handle the backlog of cases. However... this created a new problem because his governor had not created any laws - since he has to start from scratch. So they didn't have any rules on what you were supposed to do- and not do- at trial.
So it was perfectly legal to claim that your neighbor came into your dream as a ghost and talked about how great Satan was. That was perfectly valid evidence that could be used to hang someone. Which is great if you REALLY FUCKING HATE your neighbor and also wanted to buy his farm when it went up for auction.
So... yeah. FUCKING THE PURGE.
Well, it’s official. CSB episode 999 will be the finale for listing purposes.
Then you go to CSB Part 2: Archive Tendency
The rabbit thing reminds me of saying "white rabbit" when the smoke from a fire is blowing in your face.
So...pretty much half the time you’re next to a fire
a true "so guys we did it" bench mark
As someone from a German family, we eat porkchops and sourcrout. It is supposed to bring good luck for the whole year.
My moms actually upset we didn't get to eat our black-eye'd peas for luck on new years day.
Sweeping in Lunar New Year / Tet is also prohibited just like washing in New Years for the same reason - so you won't 'sweep' away luck
Alright, show of hands: who here changes their underwear on New Year's Day because of Josuke?
I do because I change everyday like a human being would
I'm happy and thankful that Castle Super Beast is still going strong 🙂
the Farmer's Almanac is just the Garden of Eden Creation Kit from Fallout.
cinnamon does keep bugs away, so thats a reasoning for blowing cinnamon into the house
Ah, I guess whoever came up with that bullshit didn’t have ants that don’t give a fuck about nothin
In my house growing up, it was bad luck to sweep someone's feet with the broom.
Also, have money in your pocket for new year's it brings good fortune for the year.
This was a Very weird segement because I do like Traditons. But at the same time I can see why people would hear this and this is some dumb bullshit
Because it is dumb, but it is FUN that is dumb. Stuff that just wants to make sure you are all good. Stuff for luck and good fortune is dumb sure, but how do you know it wont work?. It is all about mindset really and the traditions can help put you on the mindset you need sometimes.
I think it's less that traditions are necessarily stupid and that superstitions themselves are stupid. Not all traditions are superstitious after all(i.e. Opa!).
Pat's story about the bird reminds of that one Bojack Horseman episode
Apparently there’s a theory that black cats were unlucky (which they are instead lucky in the uk) because one of the first thing that would get off a pirate ship when it was invading was the cats, so when people saw black cats roaming around they would know pirates might be coming (and also in England pirates later on became hired by the government as buccaneers so I guess black cats bring fortune literally)
Then even dropping salt is considered bad luck because salt used to be very expensive. Roman soldiers used to be paid partially in salt (and that seems to be the origin of the word salary)
So I guess bad and good luck are general shorthands for when you don’t know how to explain net positives or negatives
The magnetic nature of misfortune / death superstitions 😅
Do you think that reality is a circle of salt that keeps the witches out of your head?
My Grandma's was: Crockpot slow cooked season-less black eyed peas you must choke down a bowl of or you're boned all year.
No grandma I’m boned because you made me eat trash
Only superstition I follow is to avoid going under ladders
But that is just more of a practical thing.
Saying gedsunteit after someone sneezes is just a knee jerk reaction
we do this from now on - some dude years ago. you can just be that dude at any time.
The only tradition our family does is Christmas, we hire a friend of the family to dress up as Santa and visit all the children on Christmas Eve during our family holiday party to give them a Christmas present early
Makes the kids feel special that Santa stops in on his busiest day just for them 😊
17:31 and unfortunately that means in the ST world, everything cool from fiction is gone, and people are only interested in the lame played out bullshit that’s already non-trademarked and available to all for free
Also my face when I hear sincere discussion about making those poor people villages and people actually think it’s a good idea somehow
to add : pat talks about his mom see a bird fly in the house
means someone is passing away
in my family when dreams about fishing and caching a fish
it means someone is having a Baby
Tradition is culture. Not all traditions are good, not all cultures are good. But the ones that are fine don't need to throw out traditions just because some people don't get it. Holidays themselves are traditions, celebrating birthdays are traditions, funerals are traditions. Honoring each other, our lives, and our cultures isn't a problematic thing, it's beautiful. If you hate traditions, good for you, you don't get to ruin it for the rest of us that like them.
drissling olive oil on windows to ward of bad luck
Probably has some shit to do with glare
Are these traditions or superstitions? Because there _is_ a difference.
Most traditions are superstitious, and many superstitions are turned into traditions, not rlly sure where u goin w this
@@dnd402 Traditions are what we call solutions when the problem has been forgotten.
@@Serahpin i mean... in some cases yes, but others no. For instance the hand on the heart/hand in the air showing you have no weapons, or not walking under ladders for safety reasons... but others, like throwing salt over your shoulder??? being afraid of black cats? seems like games to make life more interesting when bored. Like they are of a type with "the floor is lava" or stepping on a crack in the sidewalk means bad luck.
@@dnd402 Yes, some traditions become obsolete. Chesterton’s Fence: "There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, “I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.” To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: “If you don’t see the use of it, I certainly won’t let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.”"
@@Serahpin I've seen the quote before, and it seems like a real good way for nothing to get done. I'm sure glad someone who is actively against modernity and progress "may allow us" to do things, only if we can prove to them personally we should be allowed to. Surely there wont just be another person feeling the same way also not allowing us to, meaning that it'll take 20 years of presentations and explanations to convince them all. Genuinely the idea this quote is backing is so bad, its like "never change anything ever things are great as they are, unless you can really convince me otherwise" its incredibly Boomery. Going to use a political example here because its specifically mentioned in the quote that the speaker is talking about politics but using a gate as an example.
Imagine a law saying, for instance, that LGBT people can be denied service at any store, for the reason of being LGBT. should we listen to this guy who says "tell me the good reasons why this law is good, and until you can we won't get rid of it, and even then I may not allow you to do so."
Genuinely some real bad do nothing bureaucrat takes from the origonal author of the quote.
So here's a new tradition that I learned about this year that I was hereforto unaware of:
To increase your love life potential, you have to get under a table and eat 12 grapes the night before new years
For some fucking reason?! I dunno why!!
Bobbin' for grapes under the drapes 👀
yooo, I rembered to say "Rabbit Rabbit" this month!
Man, Pascals wager is possibly the most spineless, pathetic thing ever.
Traditions are the practices that remind people they're part of a relatively unified society cemented by shared experiences over time.
Losing them sacrifices something from that connection and turns us into something less.
We have lost many traditions over the course of history, and nothing was lost. many other new ones took their place, and we will continue to create new ones that fit our new sensibilities.
@@caiopatric I think they're referring more to the sentiment that "traditions are stupid, and you're stupid if you do them" that some people seem to believe.
@@SilencedBTM Traditions are fine. Superstitious traditions are stupid.
@@SilencedBTM that's fair. i respect the things people do in their own lives, i just wanted to make sure we're avoiding the idea that everything in society has to be conserved, including some very bitter ignorant sentiments that people still hold.
@@caiopatric For sure, I just feel like some people who always say things like that come across like "Traditions are stupid, therefore because I think this way, I am way smarter than these simpletons". Like the dudes who bragged about their high IQ due to getting jokes in Rick and Morty or something.
I just watched twin peaks the return so Im seeing coincidences everywhere
before and after i watched it
Wait... what year is it?
As one with some religious upbringing, including how being superstitious is bad, I never had done such practices.
For some reason, I was told to not do any laundry in new years day, because it's bad luck.
Edit: oh fucking hell, that's the reason?
I always thought that the Clone Wars was a time where they cloned Jedi and indoctrinated them into the Empire. Not Sith, Jedi who think even harder that they're right, and the original.
wow we don't do any of this shit lol. we just pull out Monopoly and a plate of cookies and a bottle of spumante. CENT'ANN
Black Eyed peas for new years in my family
Happy New Year, Pat! You get to be normal for a day (in comparison)
RE: Eugenics wars: It did involve Eugenics, it was Khan's whole thing
Happy New Year of Variable levels of quality everybody!
One of the best things I'd learned from psychology class is "correlation is not causation."
my only New Years tradition is to hug my family while i hold cash
the only year i skipped it was 2020, so I better not risk it again
I can't believe you personally are guilty of everything that happened to the world in 2020, how dare you
@@Carlos-Mora i wasn't aware of the consequences my actions would unleash, i even posted a Solemn JPEG to atone