Firstly, thank you for yet another interesting & informative review. I agree this gun is pretty much as near to perfection as you will get for a springer & for under £350! I have the LGU & LGV master pro... Both are the most accurate springers I've ever shot. The LGU under lever ball bearing lock up isn't something I'd criticize personally as it's effective & simple. Neither the LGU or LGV are light weights, not ideal to carry for long periods, but they are so smooth, quiet & did mention accurate?... an Engineering high point for Walther & springers. I would recommend the LGU or LGV to anyone that can handle the weight of the guns, especially if you're a leftie like myself & refuse to pay the extra £50 or more that certain other manufacturers still charge for a left handed stock!
how does the LGV stack up against the LGU? is the LGV noticably lighter and does the barrel latch compensated for it being a break barrel. thanks in advance
Great review. Our kid has bought a new 2016 Walther LVG Master Pro and has fitted a new A-Tec silencer on it. Unbelievably quiet and smooth. As quiet as a top PCP. I'm looking at an LGU. I own an Air Arms TX200 and the Walther is same standard. Lovely!
I bought a brand new, boxed, today LGU Master in .177 and couldn’t be happier. The place I got it had a further 8 or 10 Masters in .177, a Varmint new in .177 and about 10 brand new boxed Masters in ..22
Just bought mine and agree with everything you say, beautiful rifle apart from the underlever catch ! To overcome this I 3D printed a cover with some lead-in that slips over the ball catch, slightly larger than original but works well and also protects the end of the barrel too !
I've got all three top shelf underlevers, all in .177. Mr. Rack, I very much appreciate the way you pay attention to stock details in your reviews. Even after a few months I'm still struggling with that non-UK plastic trigger and would have preferred a barrel chop by 1 1/2 inch or so. Also the breech is not chamfered and pellets could seat easier. Accuracy is spot on with JSB Exacts, a little less with Express. Other pellets still to be tested. Cocking stroke and shot cycle are indeed amazing for smoothness and silence. The ball is very much in HWs court now (somewhat less in AAs court in view of better internals than HW). As to overall handling & loading for me: tops is still the 97 K and between TX 200 HC and LGU it's still a draw. For hunting / HFT, 97 K seems the the better suited of the three. For pistol grip fit and trigger reach, LGU finishes first for me. However, for non- UK markets, Walther is cordially invited to send the optional "Metal Target" trigger for free as a dealer operated after sales service ! Incorporation of the standard version in this rifle is nothing less than inexcusable.
Have the LGV in 177, its like having a mid-range PCP in your hands. Swear by it me, I have had the 95 97 98 99, tx200, Prosport and this Walther LGV is my go-to rifle, best I have had yet, I did put a Rowan Engineering match trigger on it, it does affect the safety catch for some unknown reason, the catch engages, it just does not engage if you get my drift, you can still fire the rifle even though the safety catch is in its switched on position, I have tried everything to fix this but no luck, the moment I put the old trigger back on it works. Must be the way the Rowan trigger is machined, ah well, get a Walther LGV or LGU you won't go wrong, I know you can't buy them new anymore but if you can find one second hand, buy it, you won't go wrong if it's been looked after.
I have this in .177 it really is the most accurate springer at 20 meters it matches my BSA scorpion. What looks like a moderator is empty so if you want you can put in washers and curlers.
Ambidextrous stock fair enough but what´s about the loading port ? Hardly ambidextrous. Check the HW97 ... still the best springer. Record trigger still unmatched, design far superior, 97 underlever and lighter weight. So what exactly is better on the Walther ?
the thing that makes the 97k so good which air arms havnt managed to copy is the weihrauch barrels , which are key to weihrauch accuracy , you can copy the rifles all day ..even lothar walther arent a match .. 30 years of testing barrels prove this
@@tomhughes5123 I own both the airarms tx200hc and pro sport plus the weihrauch and I really can't say that the weihrauch is more superior compared to airarms I think they are quite equal
@@sap3055 iv owned both the newer model and mk2 both air arms had sloppy underlevers which was bad enough . the fac 97k was knocking the crap out of golf balls at 150yards thhe video is on you tube lazer ranged 138m 150y . with a vortex ffp scope and ll night vision add on .. every shot a hit .. iv not got a pre charged that will do it .. all trigger units honed and polished sears .. with extended triggers set to literally ozs .with 177 7.9 cpls .. my krall puncher jumbo and brocock cant touch this springer .. ridiculous it sounds ..watch the video see yourself
@@sap3055 considering air arms are the equivalent as ( venom lazaglided ) in factory and custom looking . they just dont perform like a weihrauch with the same custom + tune treatment . they never have . since the mistrals and boras sidelever jobs , they always looked great mirror blued .cheap african version of walnut hyedua stocks to keep cost down sometimes padouk or rapala lacewood .depending on availability .. iv had them all i bench shoot some fac rifles 12 bangers . and always go back to custom tuned hw 97s .brit stuff isnt really brit stuff anymore as nostalgic as you want to be .. it just isnt
In my opinion the airarms tx200hc looks way better and the silencer is built in to the barrel itself plus the wooden stock locks and feels better to hold so in my opinion the airarms tx200hc is better value for the money
Good review , I’m left handed and watched this because I’ve been offered a new one , but put off buy one sided loading bay and catch for under lever , think I’ll buy the 97, like the looks more and and under lever action as well as more room to load pellets cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧,, oh and lovely gold trigger
I have one of these, astonishing piece of kit for the money, uber accurate with every pellet type I`ve tried so far, I agree it does NOT fire like a `normal` springer, (thankfully) weighty for sure, but so`s a HW100 & no-one complains about them!
Hey this is my first time posting here.. I just wanted to say that I enjoy your reviews and being that you are lefty too, your reviews/opinions mean a bit more to me.... Keep up the great work ... Greg W.
Love the ergonomics of this rifle being leftie they should have fully opened the loading breech & don't like the under lever release mech . But it has lovely stock & finish with some nice touches.
I was gonna get one of these but just been putting off for so long now, after careful thought though I'll be putting an extra £30 in and getting the HW97
I own one. It's a great rifle, easily up there with Weihrauch and Air Arms. The only complaint I have is the rod connected to the cocking lever, it's sort of sheet metal'ish, and has a cheap feel to it
Ive owned 2 tx200s, 1 prosport, 1 txsr, 1 lgu, 1 77 and 3 97s. sold everything apart from 25MM 97, none of the other are as accurate or as ergonomic or refined.
I really fell in love with this rifle after your review. I'm looking to by my first air rifle and have trouble choosing the right one for me. Before I saw this video, I wanted to buy a Gamo 1250 G-Magnum IGT, but I am a little bit afraid that it is to loud for my backyard,..and I don't want to disturb the neighbors. I wanted the Gamo because it is powerful and I like to shoot long distances,..but to be honest, I probably don't need that much power anyways (?). The Walter is so beautiful and looks so well made but the Gamo was already on the edge of what I can afford and the Walter is almost twice as expensive, even without the scope :( ...
íss the Albatross this rifle is nice but 630 fps?? I’d go with the Gamo.I don’t see how it can effectively hit anything at 50 yds.Maybe I’m missing something but it doesn’t seem powerful at all.
@@echochambers8418 It's one of the most popular field target springer rifles. People shoot it up to 150 yds and beyond. I decided to buy the Weihrauch HW97 btw (wich is the most popular :) The problem with the gamo is the built quality and accuracy in comparison with the Walther and the Weihrauch. Not saying, that it is a bad rifle, its powerful and all,...its just not as good as the other two.
Racknload, i'm thinking seriously of getting one of these gorgeous guns, can you tell me does the scope have a tendency to slide and need retightening a lot? And does it pound your scopes to pieces with the recoil?
Nice rifle, wouldn't buy one though, unless it was significantly cheaper than a hw97, that rubber rings on the clocking lever look a bit naff, it falls a bit short of the quality of the hw97
If you do a gun review on a table people think you are copying nutnfancy lol! I have access to plenty of firearms and own plenty of firearms including AR's, tactical shotguns and rifles all of which are available here in the UK and perfectly legal. I do airguns to keep things interesting for all types of shooters and will be doing archery videos soon. If you have not seen any firearms on this channel please look through the playlists 😀
Really good reviews and useful for a first time buyer like myself thank you. Was decided on a Weihrauch HW97 but after seeing this Walther...what to do?!
they look great . thats what pulled me in , but after tuning the german rifle then fully customising a few . like the cars german stuff is much better made solid and performs much better than anything we call british these days .. british means anything from put together in the uk 😂😂😂😂
@@tomhughes5123 how can airarms be so famous for quality precision and durability if they are so bad as you say yes the weihrauch is tighter but I am getting perfect precision out of both airarms and weihrauch but I must say that the walter lgu got the best safety catch
@@sap3055 theyre not the same quality its like saying how can ford be so famous .. against BMW them germans have got the best engineers going .. always have had .. we import parts made abroad .. and because theyre assembled here put a uk sticker on it ... bsa are famous too they certainly arent made here anymore , webley
@@tomhughes5123 yes airarms use German walter lothar barrel and the stock is made in Italy I'm also a fan of hatsan air rifles i own a mod 125 sniper vortex piston and it's quite good for what it is but hven we talk about cars I'm on my second Volkswagen amarok v6 i also had the Ford ranger limited it was good except from the electrical problems it had the amarok s haven't been free from problems either butt it's just miner problems
R&L, would love your opinion, I'm looking at either the LGU or the HW98. Have you looked at the HW98 because your review of this is swaying me towards the LGU?
+Simon Long Hi buddy, it's a hard choice, the LGU, TX200, the HW. I must admit, I'm a fan of the TX. All good rifles though you can't really go wrong with either. Atb, Rack
R&L, brought myself a LUG based on your review...one word sums it up...incredible!! Really tight groups at 25 yards, matching the HW100 on the range next to me.
Hey Rack. Recently purchased a second hand LGU. Whilst generally happy with it, and knowing you are a dab hand at finding a rattle, I was just posting to ask whether you and other LGU owners have found that the safety is a tad rattly? Cheers in advance, John
ok so my son is a lefty and I am looking for an ambidextrous rifle. I already shortlisted weihrarch 97 and I have added this to the list as well I am after a springer but want to avoid a break barrel type due to accuracy issues over the period of time. so I selected under lever types which are expensive which is an acceptable trade off.
I know you did this vid a while ago have you not reviewed the air arms pro sport ... would like to know how you rate that against this the tx an hw?? Hope your ok keep making em mate
Hi nice Review, Is this the 7.5 J /16J or 24 Joule version. (How much Joule or ft/LBS). Here i only get the 24 Joule version in .177, an im a little concerd about it that the benefits of this gun (silence and accuracy) will be overridden Thx for ur reply.
I'm looking for a field target air rifle (can't afford the PCP rifle and accessories right now) ... I'm a lefty like you, the rifles I have to choose from are Air Arms TX 200 MkIII, HW97k and this Walther LGU... Also which caliber?.. .177 or .22 .. I know the .177 has the flatter trajectory.. although the .22 pellets are less fiddely...lol..I'd appreciate any input you may have... Thanks Greg W.
R&L, forget the steel plate. Step it up and get your arse to a Field Target match with that LGU. BTW, I shot one of these with a UTG compact SWAT scope which made it easy to load. I may have to get one soon.
Guys on pin point accuracy, let me explain why NOTHING with a spring comes close to the Walther LGU. Well almost nothing, maybe Feinwerkbau 300S and the $5000 dollar Wiscombe rifles. If you compare accuracy, shooting beer cans or silhouette targets or even 5 shot groups at 20-30m, all the topend springers outperform most owners. BUT, put up a 25m benchrest target and see how close to a full score of 250 you can come with your topend springer. On a nice sunny windless day the PCP bench shooters easily do 248-250. I went through close to 40 tins of JSB 8.44's and 2 Walther springs, trying to get to close as possible to PCP scores. I started my quest with a self tuned Hatsan 70. The highest score was a once of 218, but the average 195 - 210. Ok, given with a 4x scope. Then I borrowed a HW 97 with 4-12 scope. Average 215-220 with a high of 226. I bought an AA S400 PCP with 4-12 glass an easily average 240 on calm days. Then I sold the PCP and bought the formidable Walther LGV Comp Ultra with a Leapers 8-32 scope. 233 avg in almost any condition with the odd 237/238 here and there with a PB of 243. Then came along my brother with his brand new LGU also with an 8-32 scope. Installed and adjusted a tuning trigger and shoot the first benchrest target, TWO FOURTY FOUR. I had the LGU for a month and shot many 240+ scores. My brother claimed he shot a 246 indoors. Now I dare to say, no HW, Pro Sport,TX or whatever new out there is close to the LGU.
great gun great video and I would like one in 177 so hw have to watch there backs I have used the hw77 and you could not shot it like that its recoils up wards to
Hello I ask for a brief assessment rifles exposing them a place on the podium, taking into account all the pros and cons. The scope of the casting 0.177 (4.5 mm) rifle for competition - Weihrauch HW97KT - Walther LGU Master - Air Arms TX200MK3. The Lord choice I will take into consideration when buying. Of course, after you purchase enters compulsory SPA professional review and amendments, thank you.
only drawback of the LGU is that's its almost impossible to clean the barrel w/o removing barrel weight, pull through or rod they both just get stuck where the barrel ends inside the barrel weight ., I've got LGU .22 and while it shoots beautifully cleaning the bbl is a nightmare
I recently seen a review by air gun web that said this LGU wouldn't be good for hunting because it is slow. What is your opinion on a accurate air gun for small game? Also a scope. Thank you
shameless716 Well, it is a single shot and that is all we used to hunt with years ago air gun wise. Like any gun, you get the feel of it and loading it then becomes second nature. As for scopes, depends on your budget, I'm a big fan of Hawke scopes for the money.....
those groups he showed in the video, been out with my lgu today and im getting the same hole near enough at 30yds, .177 jsb exacts. off a bench, take you time, a good pellet and the lgu can do way better than the groups shown in this video. just thought id put that out there, . this lgu has pcp accuracy
Great vid Rack,,Got me self the LGV and LGU, shot everything in my day, theses are the best out of the box springers on the market today no doubt, accurate as hell and super silent, they do a silencer mod now for the LGU which I have and it reduces twhat noise there is to next to nothing, Cheers Rackmiester
Oh no! What a gutter! I was really enjoying this rifle and actually looking forward to having this puppy for a few years until I saw the under lever. We can already see the wear and tear coming through on the lever of which then I see a lever dropping out as the steel ball digs its path. Such a shame really and to be fair with the HW97 around the same price and with a superior locking system, it could be a deal breaker. As we can see it is the lever that will wear out first which also makes it more expensive to restore. I am wondering if the actual ball head can be converted? It looks like there is a screw there on the head so do we have a firmware upgrade possibility here?
gosh, I keep hearing about these LGVs and now this LGU is making me think hard about this one. Being a 34 year owner of an original Beeman branded Hw77 (25mm tube) and recently purchasing a newer TX200 MkIII I do love my underlevers for hunter field target and light pest control work. Nothing but excellent reviews on these new Walthers so I can either get into my first PCP, have my TX200 tuned up for next years shooting season OR get this super cool LGU. What to do? Cheapest way out is to get my TX worked over but this thing is tempting me big time. Are the triggers still made of plastic?
These are NOT under-rated, that's for sure. Between my Diana, my roomie's Walther LGV and my dad's Weihrauch...it's a battle of the giants between the Weihrauch and the Walther...my Diana doesn't even come close. It would help if RWS could put a barrel on straight. How concentricity continues to elude Diana is beyond me. The Walther's trigger IS plastic, however, unlike the newer Rubber 10/22 ( oh, did I mean Ruger? ) the trigger on the Walther is fantastic....in fact, I give it the edge over a Weihrauch Rekord. If I were you, I'd definitely look into an LGU as shown in RACKNLOAD's video. Get a good mount and nice, clean optics and you'll be in heaven. Unlike other springers, the LG series is so incredible soft shooting you won't have to worry about tearing up a good scope like you will on other springers.
Had one of these apart and my 97 apart many times, these although a nice gun definitely not as good quality as the 97, and trigger no way as good as the record. Ya CAN NOT get better than the Weihrauch.
Totally agree HW97 alot better. LGU is horrible to load and i know this gun has has issues with beartrap falling off etc. Perfection what a load of bollox
those are break barrel guns so you aren't comparing guns in the same category. I'd rather have an underlever than a break any day. You post is nothing more than a fanboy post.
No.. Tx is not a copy of the 97/77 internally.. The only copying part is the underlever design itself.. Tx has a rotary piston design and so does the lgu.. The 97/77 does not have a rotary piston.. Also the piston and sliding breech are of a cheaper quality and poorly finished comapared to a lgu or tx200.. So no.. Its not a copy.. The Rotary piston of a tx and lgu give much more of a smoother shot cycle and less recoil compared to a hw.
+silverbackdp..... I bought a Walther Terrus (.22) for my wife a couple of weeks ago.... very nice gun. I ordered the "new" Walther Parrus (.22) for myself and will be here tomorrow (10 - 13 - 16)... then I "discovered" the new Walther LGU "Varmint" Rifle - which will be here on Friday (10 - 14 - 16). I must say that I like the more open breech of the HW 97 much more than the slightly more than half opening of the LGU. I have been really wanting the HW 97 KT (synthetic with blued barrel)... but none have come in for a couple of months now (USA) .... so the LGU "Varmint" caught my attention. Do you "see" any possible issue with the cocking arm on the LGU - with it possibly wearing out.. due to the "ball" retaining system on it... and it possibly wearing a "groove" into the cocking arm "head" and thereby loosening it to the point that it could start "dropping" the cocking arm ?? Also - how long has Walther been using the "rotary piston" ??.... I've never even heard of that.. before. What is the main "difference" between a "rotary" piston... and the piston used by virtually all other Manufacturers in their spring / piston airguns ?? Thanks and would appreciate your reply.
The Hw 97 trigger is better , the loading port is better , the cocking arm is better , anti bare trap on the lgu is to noisy , the Hw 97 is better !!!!!
Firstly, thank you for yet another interesting & informative review. I agree this gun is pretty much as near to perfection as you will get for a springer & for under £350! I have the LGU & LGV master pro... Both are the most accurate springers I've ever shot. The LGU under lever ball bearing lock up isn't something I'd criticize personally as it's effective & simple. Neither the LGU or LGV are light weights, not ideal to carry for long periods, but they are so smooth, quiet & did mention accurate?... an Engineering high point for Walther & springers. I would recommend the LGU or LGV to anyone that can handle the weight of the guns, especially if you're a leftie like myself & refuse to pay the extra £50 or more that certain other manufacturers still charge for a left handed stock!
how does the LGV stack up against the LGU? is the LGV noticably lighter and does the barrel latch compensated for it being a break barrel. thanks in advance
Great review. Our kid has bought a new 2016 Walther LVG Master Pro and has fitted a new A-Tec silencer on it. Unbelievably quiet and smooth. As quiet as a top PCP. I'm looking at an LGU. I own an Air Arms TX200 and the Walther is same standard. Lovely!
but a bit cheaper..I assume you've still got both, so how do they compare,I know the TX is a lot prettier.
I bought a brand new, boxed, today LGU Master in .177 and couldn’t be happier. The place I got it had a further 8 or 10 Masters in .177, a Varmint new in .177 and about 10 brand new boxed Masters in ..22
Just bought mine and agree with everything you say, beautiful rifle apart from the underlever catch ! To overcome this I 3D printed a cover with some lead-in that slips over the ball catch, slightly larger than original but works well and also protects the end of the barrel too !
I've got all three top shelf underlevers, all in .177. Mr. Rack, I very much appreciate the way you pay attention to stock details in your reviews. Even after a few months I'm still struggling with that non-UK plastic trigger and would have preferred a barrel chop by 1 1/2 inch or so. Also the breech is not chamfered and pellets could seat easier. Accuracy is spot on with JSB Exacts, a little less with Express. Other pellets still to be tested. Cocking stroke and shot cycle are indeed amazing for smoothness and silence. The ball is very much in HWs court now (somewhat less in AAs court in view of better internals than HW). As to overall handling & loading for me: tops is still the 97 K and between TX 200 HC and LGU it's still a draw. For hunting / HFT, 97 K seems the the better suited of the three. For pistol grip fit and trigger reach, LGU finishes first for me. However, for non- UK markets, Walther is cordially invited to send the optional "Metal Target" trigger for free as a dealer operated after sales service ! Incorporation of the standard version in this rifle is nothing less than inexcusable.
Have the LGV in 177, its like having a mid-range PCP in your hands. Swear by it me, I have had the 95 97 98 99, tx200, Prosport and this Walther LGV is my go-to rifle, best I have had yet, I did put a Rowan Engineering match trigger on it, it does affect the safety catch for some unknown reason, the catch engages, it just does not engage if you get my drift, you can still fire the rifle even though the safety catch is in its switched on position, I have tried everything to fix this but no luck, the moment I put the old trigger back on it works. Must be the way the Rowan trigger is machined, ah well, get a Walther LGV or LGU you won't go wrong, I know you can't buy them new anymore but if you can find one second hand, buy it, you won't go wrong if it's been looked after.
I have this in .177 it really is the most accurate springer at 20 meters it matches my BSA scorpion.
What looks like a moderator is empty so if you want you can put in washers and curlers.
Love this guy's reviews, always honest opinions presented to help me choose the gun I want, thx bud.
+teno guy Cheers buddy 😀
As a lefty you’re my new favorite reviewer, Thank you! At most we normally get a mention like lefty’s may or may not like it... that’s it!
Ambidextrous stock fair enough but what´s about the loading port ? Hardly ambidextrous. Check the HW97 ... still the best springer. Record trigger still unmatched, design far superior, 97 underlever and lighter weight. So what exactly is better on the Walther ?
the thing that makes the 97k so good which air arms havnt managed to copy is the weihrauch barrels , which are key to weihrauch accuracy , you can copy the rifles all day ..even lothar walther arent a match .. 30 years of testing barrels prove this
@@tomhughes5123 I own both the airarms tx200hc and pro sport plus the weihrauch and I really can't say that the weihrauch is more superior compared to airarms I think they are quite equal
@@sap3055 iv owned both the newer model and mk2 both air arms had sloppy underlevers which was bad enough . the fac 97k was knocking the crap out of golf balls at 150yards thhe video is on you tube lazer ranged 138m 150y . with a vortex ffp scope and ll night vision add on .. every shot a hit .. iv not got a pre charged that will do it .. all trigger units honed and polished sears .. with extended triggers set to literally ozs .with 177 7.9 cpls .. my krall puncher jumbo and brocock cant touch this springer .. ridiculous it sounds ..watch the video see yourself
@@sap3055 considering air arms are the equivalent as ( venom lazaglided ) in factory and custom looking . they just dont perform like a weihrauch with the same custom + tune treatment . they never have . since the mistrals and boras sidelever jobs , they always looked great mirror blued .cheap african version of walnut hyedua stocks to keep cost down sometimes padouk or rapala lacewood .depending on availability .. iv had them all i bench shoot some fac rifles 12 bangers . and always go back to custom tuned hw 97s .brit stuff isnt really brit stuff anymore as nostalgic as you want to be .. it just isnt
I've got this rifle, the limited edition walnut stock, number 81/100. Beautiful and accurate,, it likes Bisley Long Range Gold pellets.
It's better than pcp p10 in long range? Because I want purchase this one
thanks for this just ordered my lgu today.
Congratulations on the 200 videos..... Keep them coming and thank you for them all. Well done mate.
jjab99 Thanks buddy! All the best, Rack.
In my opinion the airarms tx200hc looks way better and the silencer is built in to the barrel itself plus the wooden stock locks and feels better to hold so in my opinion the airarms tx200hc is better value for the money
Good review , I’m left handed and watched this because I’ve been offered a new one , but put off buy one sided loading bay and catch for under lever , think I’ll buy the 97, like the looks more and and under lever action as well as more room to load pellets cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧,, oh and lovely gold trigger
Did you plump for the 97K. how you getting on with it. Im torn between LGU , HW97 and second hand TX200.
I have one of these, astonishing piece of kit for the money, uber accurate with every pellet type I`ve tried so far, I agree it does NOT fire like a `normal` springer, (thankfully)
weighty for sure, but so`s a HW100 & no-one complains about them!
I bought one last week, amazing rifle, i agree with everything you say...and im a lefthanded shooter aswell.
Hey this is my first time posting here.. I just wanted to say that I enjoy your reviews and being that you are lefty too, your reviews/opinions mean a bit more to me.... Keep up the great work ... Greg W.
Thanks buddy, atb, Rack
Love the ergonomics of this rifle being leftie they should have fully opened the loading breech & don't like the under lever release mech . But it has lovely stock & finish with some nice touches.
I was gonna get one of these but just been putting off for so long now, after careful thought though I'll be putting an extra £30 in and getting the HW97
Got mine yesterday 6x24x50 177 Brilliant also have Air Arms TX200 HC .22 HFT here I come
I own one. It's a great rifle, easily up there with Weihrauch and Air Arms. The only complaint I have is the rod connected to the cocking lever, it's sort of sheet metal'ish, and has a cheap feel to it
Awesome Review Dude. Keep up the great work. Nick.
+Nicholas Aarons (Nick Mini) Thanks mate, appreciate the nice comment, atb, Rack.
Ive owned 2 tx200s, 1 prosport, 1 txsr, 1 lgu, 1 77 and 3 97s.
sold everything apart from 25MM 97, none of the other are as accurate or as ergonomic or refined.
113/5000 very good rifle HFT. Very good airgun for hunting small game. small dig, short cycle shot.
10 for 10
Great review seems to be a very nice rifle !
I own the Legendary Weihrauch 97k the original !!!
But again nice review and rifle peace !!!
I really fell in love with this rifle after your review. I'm looking to by my first air rifle and have trouble choosing the right one for me. Before I saw this video, I wanted to buy a Gamo 1250 G-Magnum IGT, but I am a little bit afraid that it is to loud for my backyard,..and I don't want to disturb the neighbors. I wanted the Gamo because it is powerful and I like to shoot long distances,..but to be honest, I probably don't need that much power anyways (?). The Walter is so beautiful and looks so well made but the Gamo was already on the edge of what I can afford and the Walter is almost twice as expensive, even without the scope :( ...
íss the Albatross this rifle is nice but 630 fps?? I’d go with the Gamo.I don’t see how it can effectively hit anything at 50 yds.Maybe I’m missing something but it doesn’t seem powerful at all.
@@echochambers8418 It's one of the most popular field target springer rifles. People shoot it up to 150 yds and beyond. I decided to buy the Weihrauch HW97 btw (wich is the most popular :) The problem with the gamo is the built quality and accuracy in comparison with the Walther and the Weihrauch. Not saying, that it is a bad rifle, its powerful and all,...its just not as good as the other two.
had mine over 2 years now, pcp accurate, only gripe, its bloody heavy!!
Great video, would you need a licence for this Walther LGU
No
Which is your fave spring airgun rack of all time....
Tx200....97k....lgu....pro sport....or something else.
Cheers
hey,
great vid...
really enjoyed it, could you do a review on the walther century?
thanks and keep up the good work
Racknload, i'm thinking seriously of getting one of these gorgeous guns, can you tell me does the scope have a tendency to slide and need retightening a lot? And does it pound your scopes to pieces with the recoil?
Nice rifle, wouldn't buy one though, unless it was significantly cheaper than a hw97, that rubber rings on the clocking lever look a bit naff, it falls a bit short of the quality of the hw97
It has also had alot of issues with LGU with beartrap falling off and a bloody plastic trigger. Trying to load it is horrible. Hw97 alot better
always great reviews! enough said!
+Gareth Parry Thanks buddy, ATB, Rack
I think I just found the British Nutnfancy...
If you do a gun review on a table people think you are copying nutnfancy lol! I have access to plenty of firearms and own plenty of firearms including AR's, tactical shotguns and rifles all of which are available here in the UK and perfectly legal. I do airguns to keep things interesting for all types of shooters and will be doing archery videos soon. If you have not seen any firearms on this channel please look through the playlists 😀
RACKNLOAD I think your clips a great, and Im a Airgun addict lol so keep um coming. Cheers
Vermont Airgunner
Good review !
yes i checked one out , still prefer my tuned 97s 25 yard accuracy an inch from a rest ? not so perfect
Really good reviews and useful for a first time buyer like myself thank you. Was decided on a Weihrauch HW97 but after seeing this Walther...what to do?!
+slipnpitch Try them both if you can buddy! ATB, Rack
same problem right now. which did you go for slipnpitch?
Best springer on the market in my opinion ..... i got the royale
When these came out they were great value but not anymore. They have become Pro Sport prices!
First off love your vids great job, 1 Q where'd you get your crony that your using and price if possible cheers.
Patrick Smith Thanks bud, it's an Airsoft one but does the job, it's an Xortech one from most Airsoft outlets :-)
What caliber is this? Can't seem to find the mention.
Great talking detail, but what is the f***ing caliber?
Tried it but went for the airarms tx200hc it has a way better trigger unit better and more beautiful stock
they look great . thats what pulled me in , but after tuning the german rifle then fully customising a few . like the cars german stuff is much better made solid and performs much better than anything we call british these days .. british means anything from put together in the uk 😂😂😂😂
@@tomhughes5123 how can airarms be so famous for quality precision and durability if they are so bad as you say yes the weihrauch is tighter but I am getting perfect precision out of both airarms and weihrauch but I must say that the walter lgu got the best safety catch
@@sap3055 good for lgu .. my triggers set for ozs .. i never touch it untill my cross hairs on target .
@@sap3055 theyre not the same quality its like saying how can ford be so famous .. against BMW them germans have got the best engineers going .. always have had .. we import parts made abroad .. and because theyre assembled here put a uk sticker on it ... bsa are famous too they certainly arent made here anymore , webley
@@tomhughes5123 yes airarms use German walter lothar barrel and the stock is made in Italy I'm also a fan of hatsan air rifles i own a mod 125 sniper vortex piston and it's quite good for what it is but hven we talk about cars I'm on my second Volkswagen amarok v6 i also had the Ford ranger limited it was good except from the electrical problems it had the amarok s haven't been free from problems either butt it's just miner problems
Any good for hunting game?
R&L, would love your opinion, I'm looking at either the LGU or the HW98. Have you looked at the HW98 because your review of this is swaying me towards the LGU?
+Simon Long ua-cam.com/video/4TImxtUIOXw/v-deo.html
+Simon Long Hi buddy, it's a hard choice, the LGU, TX200, the HW. I must admit, I'm a fan of the TX. All good rifles though you can't really go wrong with either. Atb, Rack
Thanks for your help, have you shot the break barrel HW98?
R&L, brought myself a LUG based on your review...one word sums it up...incredible!! Really tight groups at 25 yards, matching the HW100 on the range next to me.
Hey Rack. Recently purchased a second hand LGU. Whilst generally happy with it, and knowing you are a dab hand at finding a rattle, I was just posting to ask whether you and other LGU owners have found that the safety is a tad rattly? Cheers in advance, John
+john Okelly Hi buddy, I don't have the rifle anymore as it was a loan gun for review.....
OK, no worries but thanks for your reply. I'll maybe ask on one of the forums or truck over to the local stockist to have a look. Cheers
Hello. What pellets did you use to chrono?
tactical gloves, nothing alse...
bardzo dobry karabin HFT. Bardzo dobra wiatrówka do polowań small game. mały kop, krótki cykl strzału.
10 for 10
ok so my son is a lefty and I am looking for an ambidextrous rifle. I already shortlisted weihrarch 97 and I have added this to the list as well
I am after a springer but want to avoid a break barrel type due to accuracy issues over the period of time. so I selected under lever types which are expensive which is an acceptable trade off.
I know you did this vid a while ago have you not reviewed the air arms pro sport ... would like to know how you rate that against this the tx an hw?? Hope your ok keep making em mate
I'll try and get hold of one buddy! Atb, Rack
Thanks appreciated
Hi nice Review,
Is this the 7.5 J /16J or 24 Joule version. (How much Joule or ft/LBS).
Here i only get the 24 Joule version in .177, an im a little concerd about it that the benefits of this gun (silence and accuracy) will be overridden
Thx for ur reply.
I'm looking for a field target air rifle (can't afford the PCP rifle and accessories right now) ... I'm a lefty like you, the rifles I have to choose from are Air Arms TX 200 MkIII, HW97k and this Walther LGU... Also which caliber?.. .177 or .22 .. I know the .177 has the flatter trajectory.. although the .22 pellets are less fiddely...lol..I'd appreciate any input you may have... Thanks Greg W.
Hi mate, I'd personally go for the HW or the TX, they have been around for years and have stood the test of time in my opinion.....
+RACKNLOAD Thank for your recommendation, it is very welcomed and appreciated... Cheers!
+GLAS63 Your welcome! Safe shooting! Rack.
+RACKNLOAD Btw.. which caliber do you think is best for Field Target Shooting .177/.22??? ... Some long range.. Thanks Greg W.
I'd go for .177 because sometimes you will have to get through twigs etc and a flatter trajectory will really help you out....
R&L, forget the steel plate. Step it up and get your arse to a Field Target match with that LGU. BTW, I shot one of these with a UTG compact SWAT scope which made it easy to load. I may have to get one soon.
Guys on pin point accuracy, let me explain why NOTHING with a spring comes close to the Walther LGU. Well almost nothing, maybe Feinwerkbau 300S and the $5000 dollar Wiscombe rifles. If you compare accuracy, shooting beer cans or silhouette targets or even 5 shot groups at 20-30m, all the topend springers outperform most owners. BUT, put up a 25m benchrest target and see how close to a full score of 250 you can come with your topend springer. On a nice sunny windless day the PCP bench shooters easily do 248-250. I went through close to 40 tins of JSB 8.44's and 2 Walther springs, trying to get to close as possible to PCP scores.
I started my quest with a self tuned Hatsan 70. The highest score was a once of 218, but the average 195 - 210. Ok, given with a 4x scope. Then I borrowed a HW 97 with 4-12 scope. Average 215-220 with a high of 226. I bought an AA S400 PCP with 4-12 glass an easily average 240 on calm days. Then I sold the PCP and bought the formidable Walther LGV Comp Ultra with a Leapers 8-32 scope. 233 avg in almost any condition with the odd 237/238 here and there with a PB of 243. Then came along my brother with his brand new LGU also with an 8-32 scope. Installed and adjusted a tuning trigger and shoot the first benchrest target, TWO FOURTY FOUR. I had the LGU for a month and shot many 240+ scores. My brother claimed he shot a 246 indoors. Now I dare to say, no HW, Pro Sport,TX or whatever new out there is close to the LGU.
great gun great video and I would like one in 177 so hw have to watch there backs I have used the hw77 and you could not shot it like that its recoils up wards to
Please let me know does Walther LGU has built in barrel droop or its barrel is straight like a PCP?
Hello I ask for a brief assessment rifles exposing them a place on the podium, taking into account all the pros and cons. The scope of the casting 0.177 (4.5 mm) rifle for competition - Weihrauch HW97KT - Walther LGU Master - Air Arms TX200MK3. The Lord choice I will take into consideration when buying. Of course, after you purchase enters compulsory SPA professional review and amendments, thank you.
only drawback of the LGU is that's its almost impossible to clean the barrel w/o removing barrel weight, pull through or rod they both just get stuck where the barrel ends inside the barrel weight ., I've got LGU .22 and while it shoots beautifully cleaning the bbl is a nightmare
Use a straw to guide the rod.
Use a drinking straw to guide the pull through
does the LGU have a threaded muzzle,like most Walther rifles.
So when are they gonna hit the USA ?? Cant find one anywhere.
Do you do spring rifle scope reviews for magnum springers .
Weihrauch 97 K is a Legend for a reason and still The Undisputed Heavyweight Champion for QUALITY and History !!!!
And where is the AirArms TX200 HC ?? :-) (the best airgun of the world!)
Agree, HW 97 is a great gun, no doubt, but it has nothing on the TX.
Hi is the safety switch metal or plastic? Please advise tx200 or LGU? I buying one of them in Monday
TX200.
I recently seen a review by air gun web that said this LGU wouldn't be good for hunting because it is slow. What is your opinion on a accurate air gun for small game?
Also a scope. Thank you
shameless716 Well, it is a single shot and that is all we used to hunt with years ago air gun wise. Like any gun, you get the feel of it and loading it then becomes second nature. As for scopes, depends on your budget, I'm a big fan of Hawke scopes for the money.....
So is the LGU good for hunting small game or not ?
shameless716 Yep, its accurate and its powerful
Thank you for your help.
the only down fall for me is that it does not have the iron sights, but it is a good gun! =)
just looking at one of these I have a tuned 98 if you want to review iy
Good review Rack. Ignore the nuggets
do this gun comes in vortex..?? or do walther make them at all...
The loose bit isn't there after its cocked .
those groups he showed in the video, been out with my lgu today and im getting the same hole near enough at 30yds, .177 jsb exacts. off a bench, take you time, a good pellet and the lgu can do way better than the groups shown in this video. just thought id put that out there, . this lgu has pcp accuracy
lgu or lgv?
Great vid Rack,,Got me self the LGV and LGU, shot everything in my day, theses are the best out of the box springers on the market today no doubt, accurate as hell and super silent, they do a silencer mod now for the LGU which I have and it reduces twhat noise there is to next to nothing, Cheers Rackmiester
Karen Jones Thanks Karen, not seen the silencer mod yet. ATB, Rack.....miester! lol :-)
Oh no! What a gutter! I was really enjoying this rifle and actually looking forward to having this puppy for a few years until I saw the under lever. We can already see the wear and tear coming through on the lever of which then I see a lever dropping out as the steel ball digs its path. Such a shame really and to be fair with the HW97 around the same price and with a superior locking system, it could be a deal breaker. As we can see it is the lever that will wear out first which also makes it more expensive to restore. I am wondering if the actual ball head can be converted? It looks like there is a screw there on the head so do we have a firmware upgrade possibility here?
would you be able to do a walther rotex r8 review 177
Bread and Butter productions I will if I can get hold of one :-)
Anyone know what LGU /LGV stand for ?
Lgu= Luftgewehr Unterspannhebel meaning underlever air rifle. Not sure about the lgv though...
Shame there is annoying music playing whilst you take your shots preventing us from hearing how quiet or loud the rifle actually is.
Lgu .22 how much fps.
Please
Is this a gas air riffle?
Springer
What's a Bisley Superdome? I think you mean RWS Superdome.
Jamal Tyrone Yep, my mistake lol!
Port ładowania jest bardzo wygodny
gosh, I keep hearing about these LGVs and now this LGU is making me think hard about this one. Being a 34 year owner of an original Beeman branded Hw77 (25mm tube) and recently purchasing a newer TX200 MkIII I do love my underlevers for hunter field target and light pest control work. Nothing but excellent reviews on these new Walthers so I can either get into my first PCP, have my TX200 tuned up for next years shooting season OR get this super cool LGU. What to do? Cheapest way out is to get my TX worked over but this thing is tempting me big time. Are the triggers still made of plastic?
These are NOT under-rated, that's for sure. Between my Diana, my roomie's Walther LGV and my dad's Weihrauch...it's a battle of the giants between the Weihrauch and the Walther...my Diana doesn't even come close. It would help if RWS could put a barrel on straight. How concentricity continues to elude Diana is beyond me.
The Walther's trigger IS plastic, however, unlike the newer Rubber 10/22 ( oh, did I mean Ruger? ) the trigger on the Walther is fantastic....in fact, I give it the edge over a Weihrauch Rekord.
If I were you, I'd definitely look into an LGU as shown in RACKNLOAD's video. Get a good mount and nice, clean optics and you'll be in heaven. Unlike other springers, the LG series is so incredible soft shooting you won't have to worry about tearing up a good scope like you will on other springers.
Except quality internal parts
mmmmm decisions decisions LGV or LGU ??
Why didn't they put a picatinny rail and a adjustable cheek piece on the gun ?
Got mine great :-)
Strange. Ambidextrous stock and monodextrous, right-handed receiver design.
Not more than 620 FPS..
i like it
Would you have this over the weihrauach hw97kt black line thanks
No...
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that trigger.
Ditch that bloody music !
Had one of these apart and my 97 apart many times, these although a nice gun definitely not as good quality as the 97, and trigger no way as good as the record. Ya CAN NOT get better than the Weihrauch.
Totally agree HW97 alot better. LGU is horrible to load and i know this gun has has issues with beartrap falling off etc. Perfection what a load of bollox
those are break barrel guns so you aren't comparing guns in the same category. I'd rather have an underlever than a break any day. You post is nothing more than a fanboy post.
There is nothing better then HW77 & HW97
Bollocks.. 97 77 is shit compared to lgu and tx200.
TX200 is copy of 97k 😀
No.. Tx is not a copy of the 97/77 internally.. The only copying part is the underlever design itself.. Tx has a rotary piston design and so does the lgu.. The 97/77 does not have a rotary piston.. Also the piston and sliding breech are of a cheaper quality and poorly finished comapared to a lgu or tx200.. So no.. Its not a copy.. The Rotary piston of a tx and lgu give much more of a smoother shot cycle and less recoil compared to a hw.
+silverbackdp..... I bought a Walther Terrus (.22) for my wife a couple of weeks ago.... very nice gun. I ordered the "new" Walther Parrus (.22) for myself and will be here tomorrow (10 - 13 - 16)... then I "discovered" the new Walther LGU "Varmint" Rifle - which will be here on Friday (10 - 14 - 16).
I must say that I like the more open breech of the HW 97 much more than the slightly more than half opening of the LGU.
I have been really wanting the HW 97 KT (synthetic with blued barrel)... but none have come in for a couple of months now (USA) .... so the LGU "Varmint" caught my attention.
Do you "see" any possible issue with the cocking arm on the LGU - with it possibly wearing out.. due to the "ball" retaining system on it... and it possibly wearing a "groove" into the cocking arm "head" and thereby loosening it to the point that it could start "dropping" the cocking arm ??
Also - how long has Walther been using the "rotary piston" ??.... I've never even heard of that.. before.
What is the main "difference" between a "rotary" piston... and the piston used by virtually all other Manufacturers in their spring / piston airguns ??
Thanks and would appreciate your reply.
The Hw 97 trigger is better , the loading port is better , the cocking arm is better , anti bare trap on the lgu is to noisy , the Hw 97 is better !!!!!
basically you moaned about the gun the whole time of filming. Don't be left handed bender using a right hand gun.
chris wright Errrm...it's ambidextrous.....
Power in foot pounds
Look like they pinched the design from a air arms tx 200 lol
+Dr Gunsmith (D.Robinson Custom Rifles) probly did, and lopped $200 of the price as well, I don't mind that part
this gun is dieseling bad
opowioada głupoty - odciąga się lekko i nciąga bardzo miękko,
just copied from air arms tx200