Thanks to both of you. Another fantastic interview. What an amazing bloke. When the world wasn't aware of what was happening in 2014 in the Donbas he was right there in the thick of it. A Brit ex-pat fighting in the Ukrainian army for the rights of democracy. He was, and still is, fighting for freedom. A very strong man with strong families both home and abroad from whichever perspective you care to look at it. He's seen and endured more than most people in their lives but still retains the strength, both physical and mental, to continue to do his best. I hope viewers everywhere watch this and learn , both from his experiences and from his good, solid, down to earth common sense.
Being pro-Ukrainian does not mean you're fighting for "DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS". Do you only respect Ukrainian rights? 🤔 What about Russian rights? Ethnic Russians have the right to study, read books, receive services in a mother tongue! The Ukrainian government is doing the same as Putin but with a negative sign. They erase everything that is associated with Russia. That's not a freedom, that's oppression.
Total respect to your guest Mr. Shawn Penten. Thank you for sharing your story and experience. As an American I feel Ukraine must not be forgotten. Slava Ukraine ❤️
I remember listening to his story, right after he got released. No less harrowing the second time. I can't imagine what it does to a person, to go through something like this. And yet here he is, still sane and articulate and putting up a fight with everything he has. A true hero 🙏
That is exactly what makes the torture story less credible.... think about it, why would they do this and release him.... makes no sense ... this is fodder for stupid people who do not think for themselves...
@@ParamaHasmo Have you ever lived in Soviet Union? Have you ever lived in Russia? have you ever lived in Ukraine? Have you ever lived in Mariupol? I did and I have relatives there. If you like Stalin -Putin propaganda, its another story.
America is probably safe enough. I doubt if they want to advance beyond Berlin. Like they were before the Berlin wall came down. But regardless of politics, few people would not try to repel invaders, especially if they were breaking into houses. Keep well.
@20chocs.. Of course Russia (nor anyone else) are not capable of invading or occupying US (nor Germany right now) with military. However they have invaded and are pushing it with hybrid warfare, mostly informational fascist black-propaganda. Its Russia's greatest weapon, without wich wars of Chechenya, Georgia and Ukraine wouldn't be possible, nor the Putin's consolidating of power. This informational warfare is tearing up US as we speak, don't underestimate it. Without it Trump, Brexit and many other divisive factors weakening western democracies and unity would not go trough, imo. I'm not saying they orchestrated everything, but they're the most experience in opportunism and finding cracks to drive wedges in. US has too many internal traitors and zombies for democracy to work well by now, so be wary and try to find unity if want it (and other 'Western' countries and human international order) to survive.
At the 1:04:30 mark, Mr Pinner says all the ring leaders of the 2014 invasion have been locked up etc, well he's forgotten about Denis Pushilin, who is still in charge of the co-called DNR where my wife lost her Makiivka flat in 2014 when I first moved to Ukraine. He's right about the Vice news expose from back then, I recall it well, Simon Ostrovsky went round the war zone reporting about it. The most memorable one was when he went to Crimea and the Tartars told him they never got voting cards in that rigged referendum (so they couldn't vote, even though they were boycotting it anyway). In that same episode a bunch of Putin boot lickers form Europe were "over-seeing" the sham referendum and some German sounding guy Simon spoke to from that *delegation* said "I have not see any armed men with guns" - when that Vice news episode showed APC's and soldiers everywhere!
Those Vice episodes with Simon Ostrovsky were legendary, the Russians, ''who never were there'', arrested him, pulled a bag over his head, tortured him and showed him off as propaganda.
I have to get so much information in out there in little time. I cover it more in the book but you are correct about Pushilin. The D.P.R. guy locked up with me & who helped me with clothes and food was actually jailed for posting how Pushilin was un-elected and needed to be removed. Pushilin is a Kremlin gangster who works for Putin. There is virtually nobody left. It was always a Russian invasion.
we have to cover lots in a short time, unfortunately i had the misfortune to meet him in prison. but i speak about this in my book. Pushilin is an appointed thug really.
@@SiliconCurtainWhy no mention that Pinner went to Ukraine as a single man intentionally looking for conflict in 2017! Pinner joined the notorious neo na2i Azov Battalion that call ethnic Russians a different species! Pinner was in Chisinau the capital of Moldova in 2018 walking around in a Azov SS t-shirt! No mention of Pinner Instagram, Snowy Azov! No mention Pinner was saying in 2019 that they were going on the offensive to drive out the ethnic Russians! No mention his wife was a female Azov Battalion member!
Interesting and informative. I'm an American living in Kherson through out the war and all this rings true. I can tell you that the sound of incoming artillery is REALLY scary.
Silicone Curtain continues to shed light on the horror Russia is happy to sanction - makes me shudder to think of what Shawn went through, electric shocks, near starvation - glad he made it through and can tell us to be aware and to be on our guard. Slava Ukraini ❤
Brave and gritty guy! 😮 What the Russians rarely understand is the analogy of the blacksmith! Like any metal, humans rarely break when you repeatedly smash them. Like metals, they start soft and maleable, but if you keep hitting that metal it gets harder, and sharper until it resembles the very sword or spear that will kill you!
Thank you for allowing Shaun to tell us exactly what is happening in Ukraine and the shameful and criminal invasion by Russia of its' neighbour. Russia will not only lose the war, it will lose itself. This was an excellent interview. Slava Ukraini!
Shaun Pinner has been of of your best guest so far. He has his finger on the pulse of his past in Bosnia and how it relates to his recent past in Ukraine. As Shaun eludes to, Ukrainian's have a new view of themselves and their place in Europe as they have been so grievously betrayed by this Kremlin regime. I was only in Ukraine for a few weeks, in September and October this year, and many times I was told how they now a vision of themselves after been attacked by Russia in Kharkiv Oblast and after that in Kherson Oblast. I encourage anyone to go to Ukraine and volunteer to help in whatever way you can. Just Google it and make you own way there. Ukrainians very much appreciate help if you are really doing something, even if you didn't realise it until some old Babushka comes up and the translator tells you that she isn't after money, she's just thanking you for being there.
With Russian leadership and Russian cultural commentators proposing Ukrainians "have no culture" and some openly proposing genocide fits very well into what Serbs did in Srebrenica, Croats nearly did in Mosta and what all sides tried to do at sometime in villages and towns across the country.@DDtch6669
Brilliant interview. I had so many feelings listening to this: anger at the brutality of the Russians and massive admiration for Shaun. Yet he tells his extraordinary story in such a matter of fact way as if he is not the hero he actually is.
Thank you for sharing your story! It helps getting a better understanding. We have been supporting Ukraine from the beginning and we will do so until it is been cleared of the occupiers.
"Torture" , makes me fucking sick. We didn't even torture Rudolf Hess, when he came begging to us for our collective "forgiveness", tells you everything you need to know about how much the Russians wish they were just like the Nazis that we genuinely hoped were all already dead, that they think torturing anyone will somehow impress us
Ahaha, have you missed the memo about the commonplace backdoor sweeper haft 'plumbing' for civilian protestors? Or Chechens vanishing political opposition and activists? Nobody tries to impress you. Gulag has just been gulaging as usual lately. This cuntry in extremely violent, especially siloviki and Cheka spawns.
It’s amazing how for 500+ years, soldiers have always been terrified of being captured by the Russian army because their sadism never changes. The defeated Axis’ race to surrender or be occupied by any ally besides Russia was one of the defining features of the end of WWII.
Russia also imprisoned thousands of their own POW's who were captured by the Germans and returned to Russia after the war. Basically they treated them as traitors and spies.
Yep, nothing new. In Latvia, some partizans and legionnaires coerced into Wermacht during WW2 (not even SS) were pushed out by Red Army and escaped to Sweden. Swedish authorities decided to extradite them as POWs to Russia, despite overwhelming public outcry from most of Swedish public. Days before extradition, many of them committed suicide, one i know of trough relatives smacked a pencil trough his eye full length into his brain, but survived. Subsequent Swedish government made a strong official apology for giving out these soldiers to Latvia after regaining of independence, emphasizing that they weren't in any way complicit in Nazi warcrimes, or ideology, as Russia claims to this day. Most of them perished in captivity.
@dannydetonator was it possible that some of them served as concentration camp guards or in other form cheerfully joined the Germans in the early years of the war?
Why is the UK not shouting out about the systemic torture the Russians inflict against POW's and civilians ? An incredibly courageous spokesperson who should be listened to more widely.
Fascinating interview with the BEST of BRITISH. This man's story is compelling and the interview handled with respect and intelligence. The depravity of the Russians is a Hell story every time, many thanks for sharing, hard to listen to but SO IMPORTANT! xxx
Yes .. but .... I think we SHOULD be proud to be British ,,, But keep it quiet , because Russian nationalism is our enemy ... and English nationalism is related to that
💛💙💜💙💛 Jonathan, thank you for doing this interview. I will listen later. I'm having a meltdown again. I'm American and a defender of democracy and a supporter of Ukraine. I'll be back. I promise. 🇺🇦 🌏 🇺🇸
@@PL-rf4hy Good news: If your senators and reps have invested into Ukraine, they are already aboard. Bad news: If they didn't, then they won't give a sh*t if you try to pull a "concerend citizen" trick on them.
Hello Jonathan 👋 Yet another superb interview. Please slow down. I can't keep up with you! My big takeaway from this interview was something I believed, but needed to have confirmed by someone living in Ukraine. It is clear that russia has no real connection, no affinity or affection, for russian speaking Ukrainians. russia treats ALL Ukrainians with the same contempt whether in the East or West, whether russian speaking or not. Despicable. I was also horrified by the extent of state controlled torture. I will have to now buy Shaun's book. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇬🇧💙💛
I don't know if this will work for you, but can you find Settings on the video and then go down to the speed it is playing at and choose something less than 1.
@@20chocsaday I actually meant the speed of his output. I realise I phrased it poorly, so thank you. I find that by the time I get around to watching a new release, Jonathan has uploaded another two! Thanks for the advice all the same. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇬🇧💙💛
I am glad Shaun Pinner survived the horrors he spoke of and commend the two of you for the quality of the discussion. This conflict is a terrible tragedy, but one positive for me is that while doing research via UA-cam I discovered Ukrainian singers Sophia Rotoru and Ani Lorak. Both are talented singers very popular in Russia as well as in Ukraine. Sophia Rotoru often sang with Russian singer Nikolay Baskov and in 2018 Ani Lorak recieved an enormously positive audience reaction in Moscow. When the politicians find a way to achieve peace, I hope singers such as these can help heal wounds and bring the peoples of both countries together.
Very popular is a strong word, but rather "popular among boomers". Ironically, Ani Lorak still making money in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus right now. She has a concert on 10th January 2023 in Moscow, 15th February in Saint Petersburg, 21th March 2023 in Kiev, 1st April in Minsk Belarus. Even though everyone knows that she helps Ukrainian army... And where is the Russian brutality here when it's really needed?
A very good listen to. As a ex British army vet from the 70s I was told by my csm at the time that if we were at war with the Russians then we should never ever surrender to the Russians as they will treat you bad or kill you. Now this was in the 70s so their attitude then was still the same today. It seems that they are taught from the get go to treat people with competent.
The Cockney accent is a bit hard for me to understand, but Shaun is such an interesting speaker that I persevered. I wish him and his wife all the best 🌻 . Thanks for the upload SC!🌻 By the way, isn't it sad that most of the hate mails Shaun gets are from Americans? (I'm guessing MAGAs 😒 and/or former Russians now living in a prosperous democratic safe country. grody.)
IMHO, the most insisive guest yet - huge thanks Shaun Pinner! If he ever comes to my town I will buy him a beer! Also goes for you Jonathan - thanks for all you are doing!👍
Great channel, sir. I appreciate the time that you put into these videos to help give folks a clearer picture of what is really going on, and actually keeping the discussion alive about the Ukraine War
Thanks for posting this interview with Sean. I suggest you divide it up and repost focused segments with introductions, that can be used in various media to inform citizens to care about the defense against Putin’s Russian aggression, war crimes, systematic torture and terror.
A majority of Americans support arms/aid to Ukraine -- latest poll I saw was 60% in favor. I am one of them. I predict the aid will flow again for Ukraine shortly.
Thank you for this wonderful interview! Please ask Azov fighters, medical personnel, civilians for an interview as well. Mariupol defenders saved time for whole country to stop invaders without even help from allies. Azov surrendered only because 600 severely wounded soldiers could die. High moral standards of Azov is example for the whole world. That's why they were slandered by KGB Russia.
@@Robert-xy4xi Who told you so? Do you know that captured Russian soldiers were happy to be taken by Azov, because civilians were going to tear them to pieces. Also you have no idea why Russia hate Azov so much. Azov stopped them from further invasion of Ukraine and kicked them from Mariupol and other cities in 2014. Women from Mariupol told that in order to escape from the city, they signed whatever Russians demanded and gave them, whatever was in the purse. In 2022 Azov was resisting 40000 Russians in order for whole Ukraine to recover from harsh invasion, saving whole country. Azov surrendered only because they have 600 seriously wounded, and Red cross promise to release them immediately. Even 900 soldiers from Azov are still in captivity, burned alive, tortured... Azov is always on a front line fighting for FREEDOM.
@@Robert-xy4xi Are you talking about Azovstal? Civilians started to go there to hide after Russians started to bomb Mariupol to make it flat to the ground and killed around 100000 civilians. They were in different part of the plant, that's why several Azov soldiers were killed when they helped civilians to get to the place of evacuation. You are fooled or just serving putin propaganda
If you were dealing with a sane country, perhaps, but Russia projects their own treatment of PoWs onto others, so they tell their troops they’ll be tortured and beaten in captivity…because that’s exactly how they treat their own POWs (and conscripts TBH, hazing and such is terrible in their ranks as is!).
I really enjoyed this interview. Very insightful. Shaun is both a very interesting person who charts his own course and really brave in an understated way.
@@olddog3941Neither have I, but 20 years ago they were exposed by a 222 page U.N report, the study found evidence confirming CIA “black sites” in 20 locations around the world, including Thailand, Poland, Romania, Lithuania and Kosovo. Here is some of the content of the report - "The detailed study conducted by four independent UN human rights experts accuses the Bush administration of utilizing practices in severe violation of international law. Following the 9/11 attacks, the U.S. began to limit and remove mechanisms protecting human rights in the context of the Global War on Terror. Lumping the United States with the likes of Stalin and Pinochet, the study cites the U.S. practices as an “unprecedented departure” from established international humanitarian and human rights law, specifically pointing to the Geneva Convention. The report focuses on the CIA run secret detention facilities and the use of enhanced interrogation techniques on high value detainees." Memory is a great asset to have when listening to the news media propaganda to sort the wheat from the chaff.
That was an excellent interview. Thank you for letting Shaun speak freely and not interrupting him.
Thanks to both of you. Another fantastic interview. What an amazing bloke. When the world wasn't aware of what was happening in 2014 in the Donbas he was right there in the thick of it. A Brit ex-pat fighting in the Ukrainian army for the rights of democracy. He was, and still is, fighting for freedom. A very strong man with strong families both home and abroad from whichever perspective you care to look at it. He's seen and endured more than most people in their lives but still retains the strength, both physical and mental, to continue to do his best. I hope viewers everywhere watch this and learn , both from his experiences and from his good, solid, down to earth common sense.
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Being pro-Ukrainian does not mean you're fighting for "DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS". Do you only respect Ukrainian rights? 🤔 What about Russian rights? Ethnic Russians have the right to study, read books, receive services in a mother tongue! The Ukrainian government is doing the same as Putin but with a negative sign. They erase everything that is associated with Russia. That's not a freedom, that's oppression.
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Total respect to your guest Mr. Shawn Penten. Thank you for sharing your story and experience. As an American I feel Ukraine must not be forgotten. Slava Ukraine ❤️
Who is Shawn Penten ?
@@APW554 sorry I didn't see how his name was spelled, so went with my best guess... I had a friend named Shawn and that's how he spelled his name.
It's Shaun Pinner, but that really doesn't matter. You understood the importance and integrity of the message.
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@@TheAmericanDreamLives 😂 thanks
@@franksims6452 You're welcome. I'd actually never heard of him before but must now buy his book.
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Smart guy. I hope, the people he talks to about his security concerns, listen to him.
I remember listening to his story, right after he got released. No less harrowing the second time.
I can't imagine what it does to a person, to go through something like this. And yet here he is, still sane and articulate and putting up a fight with everything he has.
A true hero 🙏
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Miss clean your little nazzi tears, you make us cry. Go to Ukraine WARPIG
That is exactly what makes the torture story less credible.... think about it, why would they do this and release him.... makes no sense ... this is fodder for stupid people who do not think for themselves...
He was a disgusting mercenary!! He kill people for money, ¿why the Russians let him go?
You guys are losers and nazzis
@@ParamaHasmo Have you ever lived in Soviet Union? Have you ever lived in Russia? have you ever lived in Ukraine? Have you ever lived in Mariupol? I did and I have relatives there. If you like Stalin -Putin propaganda, its another story.
Oh, my God, Johnathan. Yet another gut-wrenching interview. I'm terrified for Ukraine as well as America
America is probably safe enough. I doubt if they want to advance beyond Berlin. Like they were before the Berlin wall came down.
But regardless of politics, few people would not try to repel invaders, especially if they were breaking into houses.
Keep well.
@20chocs.. Of course Russia (nor anyone else) are not capable of invading or occupying US (nor Germany right now) with military. However they have invaded and are pushing it with hybrid warfare, mostly informational fascist black-propaganda. Its Russia's greatest weapon, without wich wars of Chechenya, Georgia and Ukraine wouldn't be possible, nor the Putin's consolidating of power. This informational warfare is tearing up US as we speak, don't underestimate it. Without it Trump, Brexit and many other divisive factors weakening western democracies and unity would not go trough, imo. I'm not saying they orchestrated everything, but they're the most experience in opportunism and finding cracks to drive wedges in. US has too many internal traitors and zombies for democracy to work well by now, so be wary and try to find unity if want it (and other 'Western' countries and human international order) to survive.
What a credit to humanity this man is , makes me proud to be a brit and support ukraine ,thank you both
Great interview, Shaun my man Im glad you're safe and bestvinbthe future.
At the 1:04:30 mark, Mr Pinner says all the ring leaders of the 2014 invasion have been locked up etc, well he's forgotten about Denis Pushilin, who is still in charge of the co-called DNR where my wife lost her Makiivka flat in 2014 when I first moved to Ukraine. He's right about the Vice news expose from back then, I recall it well, Simon Ostrovsky went round the war zone reporting about it. The most memorable one was when he went to Crimea and the Tartars told him they never got voting cards in that rigged referendum (so they couldn't vote, even though they were boycotting it anyway). In that same episode a bunch of Putin boot lickers form Europe were "over-seeing" the sham referendum and some German sounding guy Simon spoke to from that *delegation* said "I have not see any armed men with guns" - when that Vice news episode showed APC's and soldiers everywhere!
Those Vice episodes with Simon Ostrovsky were legendary, the Russians, ''who never were there'', arrested him, pulled a bag over his head, tortured him and showed him off as propaganda.
I have to get so much information in out there in little time. I cover it more in the book but you are correct about Pushilin. The D.P.R. guy locked up with me & who helped me with clothes and food was actually jailed for posting how Pushilin was un-elected and needed to be removed. Pushilin is a Kremlin gangster who works for Putin. There is virtually nobody left. It was always a Russian invasion.
The delegation wanted to go home so they said what was necessary, and escaped.
we have to cover lots in a short time, unfortunately i had the misfortune to meet him in prison. but i speak about this in my book. Pushilin is an appointed thug really.
Great interview Johnathon!! Thank you Shaun, wishing you and your wife ..and two cats stay safe!!
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Fantastic conversation. Shaun Pinner has written an excellent book about his time in Russian detention and given you a fantastic interview too.
I was hesitant to watch a movie length video, but I am glad I did. What an interesting guest. Great conversation, Johnathan.
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It’s an incredible story…
What a fantastic guest. Than you Jonathon. Mr Pinner has answered so many questions I had. I’m so glad he’s safe.
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@@SiliconCurtainWhy no mention that Pinner went to Ukraine as a single man intentionally looking for conflict in 2017! Pinner joined the notorious neo na2i Azov Battalion that call ethnic Russians a different species! Pinner was in Chisinau the capital of Moldova in 2018 walking around in a Azov SS t-shirt! No mention of Pinner Instagram, Snowy Azov! No mention Pinner was saying in 2019 that they were going on the offensive to drive out the ethnic Russians! No mention his wife was a female Azov Battalion member!
But it is a lie
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Interesting and informative. I'm an American living in Kherson through out the war and all this rings true. I can tell you that the sound of incoming artillery is REALLY scary.
Respect brother
sex tourist?
Jonathan and Silicon Curtain - you are a hero for tirelessly continuing to provide stellar content through your channel. Thank you very much.
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Silicone Curtain continues to shed light on the horror Russia is happy to sanction - makes me shudder to think of what Shawn went through, electric shocks, near starvation - glad he made it through and can tell us to be aware and to be on our guard. Slava Ukraini ❤
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It IS a war dimwit
Outstanding guest and interview once again Jonathan! 💙💛
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What a legend, thx Shaun, for your service.
Great interview, both of you
Silicon Curtain , Thanks Much !.......
Brave and gritty guy! 😮
What the Russians rarely understand is the analogy of the blacksmith! Like any metal, humans rarely break when you repeatedly smash them. Like metals, they start soft and maleable, but if you keep hitting that metal it gets harder, and sharper until it resembles the very sword or spear that will kill you!
Shaun gave a very honest and vivid account of his experiences, quite a story.
What a lie....
@@ParamaHasmo..the delusion is strong in this one..
@@tarasbulba7476 It to s hard to understand very f you are talking about the interview or if you are ukro brainwashed saying I am delusional...
Thank you for a great interview again.
Thank you so much, interesting and heroic
Slava Ukraine. Thank you both very much. Great cast...
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And beautiful interview by the way
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Thank you for allowing Shaun to tell us exactly what is happening in Ukraine and the shameful and criminal invasion by Russia of its' neighbour. Russia will not only lose the war, it will lose itself. This was an excellent interview. Slava Ukraini!
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Shaun Pinner has been of of your best guest so far. He has his finger on the pulse of his past in Bosnia and how it relates to his recent past in Ukraine. As Shaun eludes to, Ukrainian's have a new view of themselves and their place in Europe as they have been so grievously betrayed by this Kremlin regime. I was only in Ukraine for a few weeks, in September and October this year, and many times I was told how they now a vision of themselves after been attacked by Russia in Kharkiv Oblast and after that in Kherson Oblast. I encourage anyone to go to Ukraine and volunteer to help in whatever way you can. Just Google it and make you own way there. Ukrainians very much appreciate help if you are really doing something, even if you didn't realise it until some old Babushka comes up and the translator tells you that she isn't after money, she's just thanking you for being there.
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With Russian leadership and Russian cultural commentators proposing Ukrainians "have no culture" and some openly proposing genocide fits very well into what Serbs did in Srebrenica, Croats nearly did in Mosta and what all sides tried to do at sometime in villages and towns across the country.@DDtch6669
good job i didn't relate it to the War in Bosnia then, other than a personal view point on some of the things i witnessed. @DDtch6669
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Brilliant interview. I had so many feelings listening to this: anger at the brutality of the Russians and massive admiration for Shaun. Yet he tells his extraordinary story in such a matter of fact way as if he is not the hero he actually is.
Thank you for the insights!! 👏
Thank you both for this great and insightful interview.
Russia is such...a zoo.
Thank you for sharing your story! It helps getting a better understanding. We have been supporting Ukraine from the beginning and we will do so until it is been cleared of the occupiers.
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"Torture" , makes me fucking sick. We didn't even torture Rudolf Hess, when he came begging to us for our collective "forgiveness", tells you everything you need to know about how much the Russians wish they were just like the Nazis that we genuinely hoped were all already dead, that they think torturing anyone will somehow impress us
Ahaha, have you missed the memo about the commonplace backdoor sweeper haft 'plumbing' for civilian protestors? Or Chechens vanishing political opposition and activists? Nobody tries to impress you. Gulag has just been gulaging as usual lately. This cuntry in extremely violent, especially siloviki and Cheka spawns.
Gitmo?
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I enjoyed watching your interview with my close friend Shaun (Snowy) Pinner, Thank you for helping to keep Ukraine in the public eye.
Great interview!!!
Very interesting and real interview Many Thanks for this.
what a top chap. listened from start to finish. so well spoken and articulate. great insight for everyone.
Shaun's book is going on my list.
It was incredibly stirring listening to Shaun's description of life in Ukraine, they couldn't have a better spokesperson in him ♥
Another ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ interview. Thank you!
Will share
Wonderful interview. I learned a great deal and have profound respect.
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There was zero fat on that conversation. That was a great listen from beginning to end.
It’s amazing how for 500+ years, soldiers have always been terrified of being captured by the Russian army because their sadism never changes. The defeated Axis’ race to surrender or be occupied by any ally besides Russia was one of the defining features of the end of WWII.
Russia also imprisoned thousands of their own POW's who were captured by the Germans and returned to Russia after the war. Basically they treated them as traitors and spies.
And this giving that Axis solders killed around 20 million civilians in USSR? 6 mln civilians in Poland?
Yep, nothing new. In Latvia, some partizans and legionnaires coerced into Wermacht during WW2 (not even SS) were pushed out by Red Army and escaped to Sweden. Swedish authorities decided to extradite them as POWs to Russia, despite overwhelming public outcry from most of Swedish public. Days before extradition, many of them committed suicide, one i know of trough relatives smacked a pencil trough his eye full length into his brain, but survived. Subsequent Swedish government made a strong official apology for giving out these soldiers to Latvia after regaining of independence, emphasizing that they weren't in any way complicit in Nazi warcrimes, or ideology, as Russia claims to this day. Most of them perished in captivity.
@@dannydetonatorI hope we live to see the day when russians finally pay for their crimes.
@dannydetonator was it possible that some of them served as concentration camp guards or in other form cheerfully joined the Germans in the early years of the war?
Why is the UK not shouting out about the systemic torture the Russians inflict against POW's and civilians ? An incredibly courageous spokesperson who should be listened to more widely.
Great, real, honest insight thanks
Fascinating interview with the BEST of BRITISH.
This man's story is compelling and the interview handled with respect and intelligence.
The depravity of the Russians is a Hell story every time, many thanks for sharing, hard to listen to but SO IMPORTANT! xxx
Great interview.
A great guest! Thank you for your service.
I loved that Shaun called out that ridiculous BBC documentary about Ukrainian draft dodgers - the BBC aiding Russian propaganda - deplorable
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@@Aggrobiscuitnot really. The BBC spouts rubbish. Most Brits dislike the BBC.
There are still people who make me proud to be British.
Yes .. but .... I think we SHOULD be proud to be British ,,, But keep it quiet , because Russian nationalism is our enemy ... and English nationalism is related to that
Great interview. Well done x
Very insightful.
Fascinating interview!
💛💙💜💙💛 Jonathan, thank you for doing this interview. I will listen later. I'm having a meltdown again. I'm American and a defender of democracy and a supporter of Ukraine. I'll be back. I promise.
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Get help 🙄🤡 First you troll every pro-🇺🇦 channel, now you’re seeking backwards sympathy for having some meltdown like a GD toddler. Grow up!
Please don’t vote for Trump
Putin’s puppet or clone depends how you look at it
It’s our internal fascists that complain about and don’t want to contribute aid to Ukraine. Most of us here in the U.S. support Ukraine
I know. We know Thank you
Please write your congress person letting them know. 🙏
@@paulbrowne6087 Did that to both my senators and representative a few weeks ago; told them to get the aid package to Ukraine passed fast.
@@PL-rf4hy Good news: If your senators and reps have invested into Ukraine, they are already aboard.
Bad news: If they didn't, then they won't give a sh*t if you try to pull a "concerend citizen" trick on them.
except for the 71 million MAGA trump supporters who are traitors to democracy
Very interesting interview.Learned alot.Many thanks.
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Pinner, you came throgh. Respect from Australia.
💙💛🫂🙏🏻 Thank you, Shaun Pinner, much respect! 🫡
Great attitude.
What fantastic guest. So interesting. Thank you again Jonathan.
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Tx for your service
Great interview, great guest!
Hello Jonathan 👋
Yet another superb interview. Please slow down. I can't keep up with you!
My big takeaway from this interview was something I believed, but needed to have confirmed by someone living in Ukraine. It is clear that russia has no real connection, no affinity or affection, for russian speaking Ukrainians. russia treats ALL Ukrainians with the same contempt whether in the East or West, whether russian speaking or not. Despicable.
I was also horrified by the extent of state controlled torture. I will have to now buy Shaun's book.
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I don't know if this will work for you, but can you find Settings on the video and then go down to the speed it is playing at and choose something less than 1.
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I actually meant the speed of his output. I realise I phrased it poorly, so thank you.
I find that by the time I get around to watching a new release, Jonathan has uploaded another two!
Thanks for the advice all the same.
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I am glad Shaun Pinner survived the horrors he spoke of and commend the two of you for the quality of the discussion. This conflict is a terrible tragedy, but one positive for me is that while doing research via UA-cam I discovered Ukrainian singers Sophia Rotoru and Ani Lorak. Both are talented singers very popular in Russia as well as in Ukraine. Sophia Rotoru often sang with Russian singer Nikolay Baskov and in 2018 Ani Lorak recieved an enormously positive audience reaction in Moscow. When the politicians find a way to achieve peace, I hope singers such as these can help heal wounds and bring the peoples of both countries together.
Very popular is a strong word, but rather "popular among boomers". Ironically, Ani Lorak still making money in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus right now. She has a concert on 10th January 2023 in Moscow, 15th February in Saint Petersburg, 21th March 2023 in Kiev, 1st April in Minsk Belarus. Even though everyone knows that she helps Ukrainian army... And where is the Russian brutality here when it's really needed?
Top 5 guest ever..loved the show...Please continue to do what you do...
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Great interview but why is no one commenting about the real miracle here, the fact the video is exactly 1:23:45… well played.
A very good listen to.
As a ex British army vet from the 70s I was told by my csm at the time that if we were at war with the Russians then we should never ever surrender to the Russians as they will treat you bad or kill you. Now this was in the 70s so their attitude then was still the same today. It seems that they are taught from the get go to treat people with competent.
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Jonathan thank you for keeping 🇺🇦 relevant on the Tube 👍✊✌️
Looking forward to the next interview.
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Wow. 😔
Business as usual in Pootinistan💀
A pleasure to listen to Shaun so honest grounded and skilled person.
Thank You for informing this Canadian. glad you made it thru to now help others.
Great interview. Please share link to his book
www.amazon.co.uk/Live-Fight-Survive-ex-British-resistance/dp/0241668085?nodl=1&dplnkId=2e45d4b9-af24-4d99-99fd-80c2e45795d3
The Cockney accent is a bit hard for me to understand, but Shaun is such an interesting speaker that I persevered. I wish him and his wife all the best 🌻 .
Thanks for the upload SC!🌻
By the way, isn't it sad that most of the hate mails Shaun gets are from Americans? (I'm guessing MAGAs 😒 and/or former Russians now living in a prosperous democratic safe country. grody.)
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As a military historian and retired from the US military, I find this video fascinating. I thank you for adding to my education.
Wow, probably the best SC interview yet.
Thanks to both of you. Very insightful points made. Proud of you. Slava Ukraine! 💙💛
Great interview!
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Huge respect Shaun and thank you Jonathan 💙💛
IMHO, the most insisive guest yet - huge thanks Shaun Pinner! If he ever comes to my town I will buy him a beer! Also goes for you Jonathan - thanks for all you are doing!👍
Great channel, sir. I appreciate the time that you put into these videos to help give folks a clearer picture of what is really going on, and actually keeping the discussion alive about the Ukraine War
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Thanks for posting this interview with Sean. I suggest you divide it up and repost focused segments with introductions, that can be used in various media to inform citizens to care about the defense against Putin’s Russian aggression, war crimes, systematic torture and terror.
I’m going to be posting more ‘shorts’ this year.
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Jonathan, we really like you as a very nice person and a great interviewer.
Thank you for Silicon Curtain ❤
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It is a tragedy that Americans forgot who their enemy is.
A majority of Americans support arms/aid to Ukraine -- latest poll I saw was 60% in favor. I am one of them. I predict the aid will flow again for Ukraine shortly.
Do we wait until Pearl Harbor.
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Thank you for this wonderful interview! Please ask Azov fighters, medical personnel, civilians for an interview as well. Mariupol defenders saved time for whole country to stop invaders without even help from allies. Azov surrendered only because 600 severely wounded soldiers could die. High moral standards of Azov is example for the whole world. That's why they were slandered by KGB Russia.
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Hiding behind woman and children at steel works! That's Azov!
@@Robert-xy4xi Who told you so? Do you know that captured Russian soldiers were happy to be taken by Azov, because civilians were going to tear them to pieces. Also you have no idea why Russia hate Azov so much. Azov stopped them from further invasion of Ukraine and kicked them from Mariupol and other cities in 2014. Women from Mariupol told that in order to escape from the city, they signed whatever Russians demanded and gave them, whatever was in the purse. In 2022 Azov was resisting 40000 Russians in order for whole Ukraine to recover from harsh invasion, saving whole country. Azov surrendered only because they have 600 seriously wounded, and Red cross promise to release them immediately.
Even 900 soldiers from Azov are still in captivity, burned alive, tortured... Azov is always on a front line fighting for FREEDOM.
@@Robert-xy4xi Are you talking about Azovstal? Civilians started to go there to hide after Russians started to bomb Mariupol to make it flat to the ground and killed around 100000 civilians. They were in different part of the plant, that's why several Azov soldiers were killed when they helped civilians to get to the place of evacuation. You are fooled or just serving putin propaganda
You can also listen to an interview with Mariupol residents about what the Azov battalion did even when the Russian army was not close to the city
Wouldn't treating POW's well, be an advantage, in that the enemy would be more willing to surrender rather than preferring to die fighting?
Good question
If you were dealing with a sane country, perhaps, but Russia projects their own treatment of PoWs onto others, so they tell their troops they’ll be tortured and beaten in captivity…because that’s exactly how they treat their own POWs (and conscripts TBH, hazing and such is terrible in their ranks as is!).
Just finished his book. It's an eye opener. Our leaders should be listening closely to what people like Sean are saying and wake the fuck up.
Our leaders are looking forward to go back to do business with Putin sadly
Graham phillips needs to go to jail
I really enjoyed this interview. Very insightful. Shaun is both a very interesting person who charts his own course and really brave in an understated way.
My God. The horror that they are and bring. I had a visceral reaction as Shaun talked about the waterboarding. Jesus. They’re monsters.
Well done Shaun! Thanks for speaking the truth! God bless you yours wife and your families ❤❤❤
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Would the FSB black site be any different from the CIA black sites? There seems to be a moral equivalency.
I don’t know, I’ve never been or seen a CIA black site
@@olddog3941Neither have I, but 20 years ago they were exposed by a 222 page U.N report, the study found evidence confirming CIA “black sites” in 20 locations around the world, including Thailand, Poland, Romania, Lithuania and Kosovo. Here is some of the content of the report - "The detailed study conducted by four independent UN human rights experts accuses the Bush administration of utilizing practices in severe violation of international law.
Following the 9/11 attacks, the U.S. began to limit and remove mechanisms protecting human rights in the context of the Global War on Terror. Lumping the United States with the likes of Stalin and Pinochet, the study cites the U.S. practices as an “unprecedented departure” from established international humanitarian and human rights law, specifically pointing to the Geneva Convention.
The report focuses on the CIA run secret detention facilities and the use of enhanced interrogation techniques on high value detainees."
Memory is a great asset to have when listening to the news media propaganda to sort the wheat from the chaff.
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Slava Ukraini from a Canadian in Oshawa, Ontario.