Love your design inspo, your consideration for energy efficiency, sustainable product sourcing and hiring skilled locals. Can I just say how much I admire Sanders brain. He’s such an asset to the entire Flocks project. The three of you bring differing skills and opinions which truly creates a better outcome in the long run (even if getting consensus sometimes feels like a giant pain in the ass). I’m so excited to watch all of your progress. 🙏🏻
Thanks for your glowing positivity and especially accolades to Sander. We appreciate him too! He's the most technical and logical thinking of us all, so he's a real asset and nice balance. He's always interested in tackling the hardest of problems-it's where he thrives-and there's no shortage of problem solving!
I am kunst amazed about all the things Snders can do ; from trenching with a ginormous chainsaw to teaching himself auto cad . He’s a renaissance man indeed !
I’m starting to see the 1930’s field biologist cottage vibe (that I commented on last time) revealing itself in color scheme and finishes. Glad I wasn’t too far of from your vision.
We see eye to eye Siloe...If you ever want to sojourn up to the Finger Lakes when we have this finished, please be our guest! P.S. Everyone please go check out Siloe's channel/artistry. We LOVE it!
What you all are doing here is exactly what I hope to accomplish one day. Hopefully one day in the future our paths cross, it would be an honor to interact with you all!
I'm with below - take most of that wall out and whats left build the pantry floor to ceiling so there is still some division of the 2 spaces. The builder is all over his game as well. He's nailed what needs to be done in terms of increasing the energy efficiency of the building as a whole ! Love your whole channel ...
I’ve noticed while decorating my room in a meadow/ cottage vibe that the more you just go with it and layer your decorative piece and colors it will come out so well blended and “natural” layers are the key to this style ❤️
If you remove the wall from the kitchen you can still have a freestanding cupboard on one side and clothing storage closet on the otherwise. Also, having access to the corner fireplace is beautiful to look at from the kitchen. Many people still like to cook on a wood burning stove and enjoy roasting chestnuts. Simmering tea and spice etc.
We considered it but in the end opted for keeping the wall and using an internal windows to connect the spaces. As we do that, we can always see how we feel on it, but really like the separation over the fully open floor plan, based on how two of us potentially living/ working there would feel.
I believe making it an open space would give you more options for design & storage space. Sander, that was a great presentation. I like your commitment to this project, to learn a software so that you can conceptualize the design is commendable. Kudos to you!! I learned a lot about some aspects of construction and remodeling. Summer, I liked that you included the local merchants and samples of the materials and, as always, you provided such attention to detail. This looks like a fun winter project. I look forward to the next video.
I love seeing how you’re working out the design options. I can see you’re making very wise decisions and I love the clay idea. A guy from Europe has a clay home and he says they don’t need heating or cooling because of the clay. I wonder if you FaceTime to include Joey? My brother is in Australia and I’m in Canada so we show each other around our properties with FaceTime and find it super useful, It’s nice to actually see the cows and goats instead of just hearing that they’re fine.
So excited for you! I love listening to speakers who are both enthusiastic and well informed. Summer, it looks like your shirt has all the colors from the design palette :)
I love where the design is going! And it’s so fun watching as you weigh different options. One thing I thought I would mention is that it looks like the porch ceiling has soffit vents. Not sure if the space requires venting, but if it does you would want to get a different kind of vent if you put wood on that ceiling. It really is shaping up beautifully, and your joint excitement is invigorating!
Thanks Barb for your thoughts on that! We'll ask our contractor. He actually built the office and still lives in the area, so we're lucky to be working with him again. :)
Lovely mood board you guys. As an architect and designer from South Africa, you inspire me with your creativity and sustainable approach to solving problems in every episode. Thank you for the great content.
Thanks a great compliment Hernes. If there are considerations that you think we should be thinking of, please feel free to share! We love when folks provide their insights and expertise. We're learning and evolving as we go too! And thoroughly enjoying the process. As an aside: have you ever come across Allan Schwarz's work? www.art-archives-southafrica.ch/SCHWARZ.htm - he's a very dear friend of ours and he's provided some lovely thoughts/insights for us as well.
It's like you picked the color scheme from my house and have read my mind about what I plan to do/would like to do if it would work in my area! Anyway, totally on your wavelength and so excited to see how this turns out! Lots of love from Alaska.
I see your Joy in creating a fabulous space and this brings me joy. As I know you are aware, I will caution against getting carried away, esp. for a rental unit. The layout remodel is brilliant, so kudos to Sander for the 3D mockup. A point I think you missed about the windows is the number of panes increases the insulation, so using at least double pane is imperative in that climate.
You got it Elisabeth. We love creating something beautiful, that we can all be proud of. We've determined since the last walk through that we'll likely all be living in this space at some point because we just don't have enough bedrooms when we're all here. Plus, when the common house goes under renovation, it'll knock out some of those spaces too temporarily. So this will probably be a space we live in soon. And then maybe we can turn it into a rental down the line. Thank you for your cautionary words though because we know a renter may not love/care/understand the space as the people who have created it, though that's not always true too. We are doing double pane e3 glass. Would have loved to do triple pane, but it was a bit outside our budget and would have likely pushed the timeframe of delivery by another month. At this stage, ordering windows in January won't get them until May because of the supply chain disruptions and employee shortages.
I'm liking all your wall and flooring choices! As someone who lives in the land of limestone (= Texas) - just keep in mind that any natural stone has maintenance requirements. They can be a big hassle over the years. The bathroom walls sound dreamy! Zero grout!! Stacking the utility closet, and moving the bathroom door is AWESOME!! I think I would still prefer to switch the layout with flipping the kitchen and bedroom. But hey, I'm not the one living there! No matter what y'all do, it's going to be interesting for us to watch! Thanks for sharing! ❤️
Thanks in regards to the flooring choices. We realize that both travertine and the tadelakt will require some maintenance, but we love the look of them and think it'll be worth the effort. Our plumber may have different ideas in regards to stacking the utility closet, but our second idea, if it comes back as 'not a good idea', will be to place both utilities in front of the window by the toilet, and then that can become a flat space for more .... plants .... er for bathroom items. Another person had mentioned the switching of the kitchen for the bedroom, and we think that would have been a great idea, but what inhibits us is the fact that the plumbing is all on that side already, and the cost of moving the plumbing to the other walls would have been a more extraordinary cost. One thing my dad cautioned us about in the beginning too, which we found out, is most definitely true!
You always seem to put out content that aligns with my interests and what I'm doing! I'm in the planning stages of a tiny house too! Planning a 10x24 small cabin which will be completely off grid. Thanks for the videos!
Well that's very exciting for you! This one won't be off the grid though, so we'll have to take some pointers from you for when/if we do an off-the-grid one!
As a veteran of many renovations, please consider transitional spaces as they add emotional and functional space that is not indoors. Examples are Arctic entries, mud porches and screened porches. The idea is that they protect the home and give a transition from outdoors to indoors without the heat/cool load nor the cost.
Looking forward to see it done, looks like a good project. You will learn a lot! You are all so creative. And I could happily live in a house like that!
Bathroom and kitchen are much better this way after shifting the door! Love the idea. Still it is really huge shower. It could be easily just the round part in the corner without the square one. Or the square one just fully glass with entrance from another side (and without wall on one side like right now)
So many great plans! Loving the color options and design ideas - this is going to look amazing. I was going to say make sure you have book nooks in there but Summer came up with the books in hand already. So cool! There's a lot of thought and work that in going into this, excited to see how it evolves. Looks like it's going to be very cosy. Take care!💛
We definitely need MORE book space. We're waiting on how the space "feels" as we begin to fill it in, but we think the console table can double as a book shelf. I personally have to be careful because I'm a crazy book buyer/reader and any space can fill up quickly!
@@FlockFingerLakes Oh yeah, I'm familiar with that challenge! 😅 A book will be waiting for you next time you visit Sean (from Edible Acres) - if you'll visit anytime from the end of February or so. It's on its way atm, not sure how long it will take to reach the US from the UK. I hope you'll enjoy it, whenever it will find you.🤗
Remove the wall. You can still put a huge freestanding cupboard. People in the kitchen can enjoy the glow of the wood stove. Many people cook on a wood stove!
Travertine is actually pretty on trend right now! 😄There's been a general shift towards a warmer palette and more textured surfaces over the last few years! I love your mood board/table and the colours you've chosen, so beautiful! The layout looks good too! The bathroom door makes much more sense in the bedroom area, not the kitchen, and disguising the kink in the roofline with a chimney is a genius move! I have to admit, I flinched a little when you talked about removing windows... but you're right, the building will still have plenty.
Glad to hear it's coming into trend again. Everyone we have met said, "no, no, no." But it may be a regional thing. We went to a builders depot just the other day and they said they used to have "rows of travertine" but now it's delegated to a slim little section. I suppose it seems more popular down south. We find it to be beautiful!
In a smaller space, I like the wainscoting color to match the wall above. You still get the texture but it’s restful to your eye when you have so many other elements in the space. The walls will look taller and if you are using a darker color, they will recede and make the space feel larger. I’d consider taking the wall down between the kitchen and living room. Or make it a half wall by the banquette. You could have a freestanding tall cupboard on the kitchen side with the back finished with shallow book shelves on the living room side.
Love the insights into your color choices Bette. We are definitely still 'on the fence' regarding the wainscoting color. We've tried different options in photoshop to get a feel for it, but it's challenging. It's like you have to see it in the space with the varying different light moods. With clay, it'll be hard to know precisely what color we'll get on the walls, but luckily we will only be painting the wainscoting after the claying of the walls, so can make a more informed paint choice afterwards. We even thought of removing the wainscoting entirely, but it's in such great condition-it'd be a shame. But we do love the vertical theme of board and batten to wainscoting to beadboard cabinets. My grandparents had wainscoting in their home too, like a lot of different farmhouses had. Good for getting bumped into and what not, and will protect the clay plaster somewhat too.
Great design. Maybe consider flipping the orientation of the banquette to look out the window when you're eating instead of inward. Keep the wall between the living room and kitchen for tv on one side and seating backing on the other. You could design your banquette and pantry as one piece with the pantry on the end.
Not a bad idea on the banquette orientation Jill! Someone else also mentioned a TV, but we're going sans TV. None of us have one, and personally I haven't had one since I was 5 (my mom got rid of it), and honestly never missed it since. That being said, I do think that our computers have replaced our entertainment screens, so not saying we're total entertainment ascetics. But having a TV in a space (or in a hotel room or the like), always seemed to affect my psyche a bit. Or the flow of the space, so we're definitely going to just be watching the fire...or the clay dry here. haha.
Such a fun look at the process! The color scheme looks amazing. I still remember you were setting up, I believe, a platform to sell deadstock fabrics...I was introduced to you and your work during the Green Fashion competition which I entered in. It feels like another lifetime, but very happy to see some lovely textiles creeping into the meadow home 😍
Charlotte, it definitely was another lifetime! My goodness. Nice to see transitions between the different lifetimes. Source4Style was started back in 2009 www.summerrayne.net/source4style ... Are you still in the textiles / design world?
@@FlockFingerLakes Ah yes, source4style! I thought the concept was genius! I ended up shifting to crafts after burning myself out working in fashion. Handwork and the meditative slow nature of it helped me back on track. Now I share those skills with others by teaching (sewing, mending, embroidery, goldwork, knitting) and I work as a part-time organic soapmaker. I still love to create and design, but there is magic in teaching. People becoming makers themselves tend to take better care of what they make and that seeps into other areas of their life.
Well, Sander may come to the same conclusion as he starts to build more! He started off in carpentry in the Netherlands and is just getting back into it, so he's getting to know all the products as he goes.
Hello, windows can be a great heat captureer. What a wonderful informative info. I never thought of that. I just replaced 2 of my Hoyas in their hanging planters because the morn. sun was beaming so I felt the area & it had warmed up ( for today only ,I'm in Oh ) I learn so much listening to y'all. Thank U
What a great video! ~ just loving all the design ideas, and all the natural earthy colourways. Also liking the mix of vintage and modern furnishing which will look fab. Personally, I would be a little cautious of over-texturizing walls within a smallish space as it could result in looking a little too 'busy' (you also have clothes to think about, as you could end up snagging everything you wear!). Night stands could be a design that fits directly to the wall (off the floor), maybe in the same colours as the wainscoting which would look more integrated. Am so enjoying following the steady progress of the Meadow House!
I thought the bthrm door shd be moved to that wall as well! I’m excited to see that lime treatment in the shower, I’ve never heard of that. Can you use bathroom cleaners to sanitize? I love the way Sanders and Summer explain things. Thanks for visual aids like bed placement, 3D diagrams. It all sounds too good to rent out! So many great ideas!
We’re excited about the clay and lime plasters too. Will be nice to show the raw materials and the different application techniques. Traditional materials that have stood the test of time. With the tadelakt and stone, you can use cleaners, but just not any acid-based cleaners.
And Sander’s a whiz with that 3d program. Really has helped all of us visualize the different possibilities and imagine how we ‘feel’ in the space with the layout
Really like your design ideas. My experience with dark flooring, everything shows. I sweep and mop my dark floor daily and at the end of the day it looks like I did nothing.
so funny how everyone in the comments wants to take the wall down. think theres an obsession with open floor plans. im glad youre keeping it, its more cozy and nice that way. also i wanna live there please 😩
Not sure if you should worry about air tightness when R value will be the same. I mean R value is the key - the best glass possible for sure in the windows. But you cannot have house really air tight - it needs some small constant ventilation. If you close or the tiny cracks when you have problem with ventilation and even more condensation inside. Unless you add some specialised systems to circulate the air. In my country right now plastic windows without small ventilation wholes are not even allowed in houses. They added this regulation after people started installing really air tight windows.
Yeah, the passive net zero homes around here are so air tight they need an HVAC system. This one moves/breathes, so I don't think we'll be making this air tight. It's just not how it was designed/constructed from the get-go. We went with the double pane, e3, fiberglass windows... Since we are replacing the siding, it made sense to replace windows too, as the budget would allow. We will likely be recycling these windows for cold frames or windows in the barn. So at least those will get some use past their prime!
Did you consider any tiny house floor plans? Everyone goes through the bedroom to entire the bathroom? Also, if you are building a shed, can you put the water heater in the shed? This would open possibilities for a bathroom redesign. I live in a tiny house and have encountered many good ideas but are not actually viable for staying in the home. Good luck, like your descriptions
We hadn't really gone through any tiny house floor plans-not a bad idea at all! I will say we definitely combed the interwebs for good space-saving ideas (so many good ones in the tiny house living world) and that you just pick up from living in smallish apartments for 2/3rds of your life). Honestly, 600 sq ft feels really ample still. But maybe someone else will feel cramped.
You could rent this place for people who are interested to come to visit your place to get inspired with the project which is going on & enjoy the beautiful place … like a package stay you could say … minimum 3 nights Max 7 nights …🤗🤗🤗…
Thanks Leo for that thought. We're all at some point likely going to be living in this space because we don't really have enough bedrooms for all of us (helpful when we're not all at here at once). But after that, we would love to begin opening up this space more.
Might have missed it, but what's in the attic? I can see it's not big enough to stand in, but it must have quite some usable space (put the water heater up there?). And how's the insulation of the roof? Sounds/looks like it going to be a pretty awesome spot! I though I saw some (silent) clashes between Sander and Joey in the previous video. Although I agree with most of what Sander says, I think you can use more of Joey's ideas, for example about enhancing the usable space on the outside for nice summer evenings.
For that kitchen wall you should demolish the whole thing, and put in a breakfast island. You can put cabinets underneath, and put cabinets where you would put the kitchen table.
I’m sorry, but only a non-painter would so casually remove a north facing window without batting an eye. LOL… But the environmentalist in me agrees with your decision for energy conservation :-)
haha. Sander is a painter of pixels though! But he's also OBSESSED with using as little energy as possible. After seeing the energy bills this winter, I can totally get on board with that! ;)
@@FlockFingerLakes still do calculations if it is really worth :) We did calculations for extra insulation on our walls and outcome was it will pay off in 20+ years when it comes to saving energy during heating. Just because of its cost.
I'm curious if you have to get permits to make all that kind of changes to the layout of the house. In Italy you would have to ask a tonne of permits before going on with the actual work.
You guys have probably researched this but you didn't mention the soffits or vents on the under side of your roof eave overhang. The long strips that are there are long vents and you need to consider that air flow in the attic.
Window pass through is not a good idea, you loose the wall for TV on sofa side. But if you want to be connected, take the whole wall down. Everyone can enjoy the stove and you can add an kitchen island for more storage. You can even put on wheels for flexibility.
We considered the open floor plan, but based on how we feel in the space (say if two of us were living / working there), we liked the added layer of wall for separation but the window for light entry and heat exchange. As we start to demo, we may consider changing our minds…feel the space as we go and be more organic with the process. Open to that. As for a TV -none of us have one nor desire one - so we won’t be bringing one into this space. The old tv in the common house was actually the first thing we removed and recycled! That and the microwave. Guess our computers serve as our entertainment devices; and the range and stove will serve as a replacement for the microwave 🙃
9.40. The kink in the roof adds interest. It’s not weird at all :-) and why buy wood that you need to paint why not use cedar or larch Then there’s no maintenance for years also. You didn’t mention insulating the floors ? I would 100% recommend insulating the floor
I invite you to visit our house in Oneonta we built by hand - takes VERY little to heat. Over the ZIP we put 4 inches of Roxul, then an air wash, then the wood cladding. 2 feet of cellulose above. Lunos e2 ductless HRV. Although it was a labor - now we hardly have any heating costs. I can't express how this system has improved our lives draft free and cheap with fresh air. Warm regards Jennie
I'll take the old windows!!! Recommend instead of scrapping everything - make storm windows on the outside. We did that - it was a game changer. Wow!!!!!! We always want to scrap the old and build new - but... it's 2022. Getting ti the end of all that...
Looking forwarded to seeing the finished home. Surprised that you didn’t make the kitchen into a private bedroom and had a more sociable entrance in the form of a sitting and kitchen room off the front porch.
It's a good idea Yuna-really like that living experience. It's mainly a cost factor for us: Changing up the plumbing too much gets really costly, so we wanted to keep the plumbing on the east side of the home, where it already is. We will have some minor plumbing work in the bathroom, but not as much as if we moved the kitchen to the other side of the home. We don't have a work desk in the tiny home either, so we think the kitchen table will also serve as the workspace. (I personally love working at the kitchen table), so hopefully that will serve as a slightly more closed off space for working.
Put shutters on the windows then as soon s the sun goes down you shut the shutters. Which keeps the heat in ….You could even make shutters where you clad insulation between wood :-)
Do you have access to plant based insulation in the usa ? Much better insulation in the heat of summer for example. Would fit more with your values i think.
We may consider solar on the nearby barn and having that as a power generator for the rest of the land, but we have to do a lot more research on that before making any decisions.
Seems like a lot of work and expense for the lime application for the shower. Weren't you doing this on a budget for a potential renter? If one of the group wants to live there, it makes more sense. You can use vintage tile to get the shabby chic look you seem to be going for with a lot less hassle.
We determined that we all will likely be living in the Meadow Home at some point. We don’t have enough bedroom space in the common home when we are all there and we aren’t going to be building our own spaces any time soon; and once that common space goes under renovation, this will give us a place to stay. At first we initially thought minimal effort, but we enjoy putting in the extra effort and learning new techniques at this stage of our life, so choosing to do something beautiful and interesting is exciting for us and something the three of us can learn from and hopefully be proud of. We spoke with our clay plasterer about using clay in the bathroom, and that’s how we discovered tadelakt and found out he does that too-and that there are US sources for it (done by another artisan), so we are excited to give that a try. We also love the idea of opening this space up to our family and friends and renters down the line as an option, but it first will serve as a place for us to reside in the midst of other renovations.
@@FlockFingerLakes Thanks for the explanation. I was confused about the purpose based on the prior video. Now that it is going to more of a home for your members, it makes sense to add these artistic personal touches. I look forward to seeing how it all turns out.
Why not remove the wall between kitchen/dinning area and living room and close off the bedroom space ! That way you would have a completely separate space and the option for a guest sleeping in the living room with more privacy. Also the concept that you will limit your ability for placing furniture is not really true, you can still set up furniture as if there were a wall there, like a couch with its back to where the wall once was and a low cupboard/credenza behind it ! Just a thought. Good luck guys ☺️
yes, double pane is the norm here too. We are also getting e3 windows with the fiberglass trim. Triple pane will be luxe, but it's not within the budget unfortunately-and would have also taken much longer to ship.
I have to admit I am a bit surprised you are putting clay on perfectly ready walls which just need repaiting. Definitely you are not doing it the easier & cheaper way possible ;) I like lime & clay though :)
We decided we wanted to make it beautiful. In the end, we're not MVP people. The clay will definitely be more costly compared to a lick of paint, but it's hard to get the same "feeling" with paint. After walking into mother earth's womb, you don't want to leave! :)
My only word of advice is to have fun with it , so many people are afraid of color and I find bland white and tan walls so very boring , Make your renters say "WOW" when they walk through the door.
Ugh, I hate to be a downer I see you making changes adding huge expenses to a building in areas where it’s already ‘done’. It’s one thing to make changes necessary to turn an office into a home-but this is a RENTAL home. Putting in engineered flooring (ohmygosh they will TRASH it!), cladding it in wood siding and altering the walls when painting the wood one color and a neutral on top of the existing would suffice- I wouldn’t do anything that wasn’t absolutely necessary-especially to the bathroom. and replacing newer perfectly fine windows, while going overkill on heating for such a small building-you’ll never get your money back on removing those windows You’re making decisions someone else will have to live with, and they may not have your esthetics. They may prefer vinyl siding and find wood cladding to be a high-maintenance undesirable (as many do). Custom built interior for a rental is a risk, as well. Spend that kind of money on yourselves- not a stranger who may not appreciate what you put into this. If you were turning this into a visitor’s quarters or in-law house, I could see this attentiveness, but you impose your ideas on a renter-then expect them to foot the bill in their rent- How do you plan to recoup all that expense? Whose money are you really spending? It’s your money to spend how you like, but I’d find wisdom in researching what are the necessities of a rental property, make a check list, and fill that need ONLY. If you really can’t stand the look of the place as it is, fine, but why not wait until you have an actual income before changing the outside? I enjoy these videos, and feel kindred in many of your goals. This one-it’s a hard one to swallow. I feel like there’s a huge amount of money getting played with, with little to no experience, and you will look back and cringe at how it was spent. Best-sincerely
Foam is toxic 😢 people are using sheep wool and cotton > do you guys know a sheep 🐑 farmer in the region??? ALSO cotton and wool breath > plastic bags are not healthy for humans to wear or for houses
The space has 11 windows (8 still if we take the 3 out). Very ample in windows for such a quaint space, even though they aren’t picture/curtain windows. The north windows don’t add a lot of light -they are blocked by the plantings and a lot of energy is lost out of the north side of the building. Plus it adds more privacy and sound dampening for the bedroom (not that there’s a lot of sound pollution here). But it feels cozier at night and hopefully it will keep more heat in. Always a push-pull with windows since they aren’t the best insulative surfaces.
Love your design inspo, your consideration for energy efficiency, sustainable product sourcing and hiring skilled locals. Can I just say how much I admire Sanders brain. He’s such an asset to the entire Flocks project. The three of you bring differing skills and opinions which truly creates a better outcome in the long run (even if getting consensus sometimes feels like a giant pain in the ass). I’m so excited to watch all of your progress. 🙏🏻
Thanks for your glowing positivity and especially accolades to Sander. We appreciate him too! He's the most technical and logical thinking of us all, so he's a real asset and nice balance. He's always interested in tackling the hardest of problems-it's where he thrives-and there's no shortage of problem solving!
Sander looks much more confident in this setting then during the minimalist house tour! Way to go Sander!
He's in his element!
I am kunst amazed about all the things Snders can do ; from trenching with a ginormous chainsaw to teaching himself auto cad . He’s a renaissance man indeed !
yay, vintage pieces and interior design, love it! This channel is such an interesting addon to the usual plant content.
I’m starting to see the 1930’s field biologist cottage vibe (that I commented on last time) revealing itself in color scheme and finishes. Glad I wasn’t too far of from your vision.
We see eye to eye Siloe...If you ever want to sojourn up to the Finger Lakes when we have this finished, please be our guest! P.S. Everyone please go check out Siloe's channel/artistry. We LOVE it!
@@FlockFingerLakes thanks Summer. Maybe one day I’ll go paint landscapes in the finger lakes.
What you all are doing here is exactly what I hope to accomplish one day. Hopefully one day in the future our paths cross, it would be an honor to interact with you all!
I'm with below - take most of that wall out and whats left build the pantry floor to ceiling so there is still some division of the 2 spaces. The builder is all over his game as well. He's nailed what needs to be done in terms of increasing the energy efficiency of the building as a whole ! Love your whole channel ...
I’ve noticed while decorating my room in a meadow/ cottage vibe that the more you just go with it and layer your decorative piece and colors it will come out so well blended and “natural” layers are the key to this style ❤️
Love that philosophy Jamie.
If you remove the wall from the kitchen you can still have a freestanding cupboard on one side and clothing storage closet on the otherwise. Also, having access to the corner fireplace is beautiful to look at from the kitchen. Many people still like to cook on a wood burning stove and enjoy roasting chestnuts. Simmering tea and spice etc.
We considered it but in the end opted for keeping the wall and using an internal windows to connect the spaces. As we do that, we can always see how we feel on it, but really like the separation over the fully open floor plan, based on how two of us potentially living/ working there would feel.
I believe making it an open space would give you more options for design & storage space.
Sander, that was a great presentation. I like your commitment to this project, to learn a software so that you can conceptualize the design is commendable. Kudos to you!! I learned a lot about some aspects of construction and remodeling. Summer, I liked that you included the local merchants and samples of the materials and, as always, you provided such attention to detail. This looks like a fun winter project. I look forward to the next video.
Thanks Maria for your lovely positivity!
It's going to be amazing
I love seeing how you’re working out the design options. I can see you’re making very wise decisions and I love the clay idea. A guy from Europe has a clay home and he says they don’t need heating or cooling because of the clay.
I wonder if you FaceTime to include Joey? My brother is in Australia and I’m in Canada so we show each other around our properties with FaceTime and find it super useful, It’s nice to actually see the cows and goats instead of just hearing that they’re fine.
So excited for you! I love listening to speakers who are both enthusiastic and well informed. Summer, it looks like your shirt has all the colors from the design palette :)
We definitely like those earthy tones.
I love where the design is going! And it’s so fun watching as you weigh different options. One thing I thought I would mention is that it looks like the porch ceiling has soffit vents. Not sure if the space requires venting, but if it does you would want to get a different kind of vent if you put wood on that ceiling. It really is shaping up beautifully, and your joint excitement is invigorating!
Thanks Barb for your thoughts on that! We'll ask our contractor. He actually built the office and still lives in the area, so we're lucky to be working with him again. :)
So glad to see you're going with clay and a stove! Last episode I was thinking exactly about these two.
Lovely mood board you guys. As an architect and designer from South Africa, you inspire me with your creativity and sustainable approach to solving problems in every episode. Thank you for the great content.
Thanks a great compliment Hernes. If there are considerations that you think we should be thinking of, please feel free to share! We love when folks provide their insights and expertise. We're learning and evolving as we go too! And thoroughly enjoying the process. As an aside: have you ever come across Allan Schwarz's work? www.art-archives-southafrica.ch/SCHWARZ.htm - he's a very dear friend of ours and he's provided some lovely thoughts/insights for us as well.
Windows are super important for energy efficiency. Good going Stuart. I thought it was some with E not R but you got it.
I'm loving seeing the process. Going to be perfect.
It's like you picked the color scheme from my house and have read my mind about what I plan to do/would like to do if it would work in my area! Anyway, totally on your wavelength and so excited to see how this turns out! Lots of love from Alaska.
I see your Joy in creating a fabulous space and this brings me joy. As I know you are aware, I will caution against getting carried away, esp. for a rental unit. The layout remodel is brilliant, so kudos to Sander for the 3D mockup. A point I think you missed about the windows is the number of panes increases the insulation, so using at least double pane is imperative in that climate.
You got it Elisabeth. We love creating something beautiful, that we can all be proud of. We've determined since the last walk through that we'll likely all be living in this space at some point because we just don't have enough bedrooms when we're all here. Plus, when the common house goes under renovation, it'll knock out some of those spaces too temporarily. So this will probably be a space we live in soon. And then maybe we can turn it into a rental down the line. Thank you for your cautionary words though because we know a renter may not love/care/understand the space as the people who have created it, though that's not always true too. We are doing double pane e3 glass. Would have loved to do triple pane, but it was a bit outside our budget and would have likely pushed the timeframe of delivery by another month. At this stage, ordering windows in January won't get them until May because of the supply chain disruptions and employee shortages.
I'm liking all your wall and flooring choices!
As someone who lives in the land of limestone (= Texas)
- just keep in mind that any natural stone has maintenance requirements. They can be a big hassle over the years.
The bathroom walls sound dreamy! Zero grout!!
Stacking the utility closet, and moving the bathroom door is AWESOME!!
I think I would still prefer to switch the layout with flipping the kitchen and bedroom.
But hey, I'm not the one living there!
No matter what y'all do, it's going to be interesting for us to watch!
Thanks for sharing! ❤️
Thanks in regards to the flooring choices. We realize that both travertine and the tadelakt will require some maintenance, but we love the look of them and think it'll be worth the effort. Our plumber may have different ideas in regards to stacking the utility closet, but our second idea, if it comes back as 'not a good idea', will be to place both utilities in front of the window by the toilet, and then that can become a flat space for more .... plants .... er for bathroom items. Another person had mentioned the switching of the kitchen for the bedroom, and we think that would have been a great idea, but what inhibits us is the fact that the plumbing is all on that side already, and the cost of moving the plumbing to the other walls would have been a more extraordinary cost. One thing my dad cautioned us about in the beginning too, which we found out, is most definitely true!
Making the projects fun and not fight is really cool! Looking forward to what's to come!
You always seem to put out content that aligns with my interests and what I'm doing! I'm in the planning stages of a tiny house too! Planning a 10x24 small cabin which will be completely off grid. Thanks for the videos!
Well that's very exciting for you! This one won't be off the grid though, so we'll have to take some pointers from you for when/if we do an off-the-grid one!
Love the vision for this space! Can’t wait to see the final product! 💚
As a veteran of many renovations, please consider transitional spaces as they add emotional and functional space that is not indoors. Examples are Arctic entries, mud porches and screened porches. The idea is that they protect the home and give a transition from outdoors to indoors without the heat/cool load nor the cost.
Looking forward to see it done, looks like a good project. You will learn a lot! You are all so creative. And I could happily live in a house like that!
Bathroom and kitchen are much better this way after shifting the door!
Love the idea.
Still it is really huge shower. It could be easily just the round part in the corner without the square one.
Or the square one just fully glass with entrance from another side (and without wall on one side like right now)
Fun stuff. Brings back memories of my first home
So many great plans! Loving the color options and design ideas - this is going to look amazing. I was going to say make sure you have book nooks in there but Summer came up with the books in hand already. So cool! There's a lot of thought and work that in going into this, excited to see how it evolves. Looks like it's going to be very cosy. Take care!💛
We definitely need MORE book space. We're waiting on how the space "feels" as we begin to fill it in, but we think the console table can double as a book shelf. I personally have to be careful because I'm a crazy book buyer/reader and any space can fill up quickly!
@@FlockFingerLakes Oh yeah, I'm familiar with that challenge! 😅
A book will be waiting for you next time you visit Sean (from Edible Acres) - if you'll visit anytime from the end of February or so. It's on its way atm, not sure how long it will take to reach the US from the UK. I hope you'll enjoy it, whenever it will find you.🤗
Remove the wall. You can still put a huge freestanding cupboard. People in the kitchen can enjoy the glow of the wood stove. Many people cook on a wood stove!
We considered it but opted for keeping the wall
Travertine is actually pretty on trend right now! 😄There's been a general shift towards a warmer palette and more textured surfaces over the last few years!
I love your mood board/table and the colours you've chosen, so beautiful! The layout looks good too! The bathroom door makes much more sense in the bedroom area, not the kitchen, and disguising the kink in the roofline with a chimney is a genius move! I have to admit, I flinched a little when you talked about removing windows... but you're right, the building will still have plenty.
Glad to hear it's coming into trend again. Everyone we have met said, "no, no, no." But it may be a regional thing. We went to a builders depot just the other day and they said they used to have "rows of travertine" but now it's delegated to a slim little section. I suppose it seems more popular down south. We find it to be beautiful!
In a smaller space, I like the wainscoting color to match the wall above. You still get the texture but it’s restful to your eye when you have so many other elements in the space. The walls will look taller and if you are using a darker color, they will recede and make the space feel larger. I’d consider taking the wall down between the kitchen and living room. Or make it a half wall by the banquette. You could have a freestanding tall cupboard on the kitchen side with the back finished with shallow book shelves on the living room side.
Love the insights into your color choices Bette. We are definitely still 'on the fence' regarding the wainscoting color. We've tried different options in photoshop to get a feel for it, but it's challenging. It's like you have to see it in the space with the varying different light moods. With clay, it'll be hard to know precisely what color we'll get on the walls, but luckily we will only be painting the wainscoting after the claying of the walls, so can make a more informed paint choice afterwards. We even thought of removing the wainscoting entirely, but it's in such great condition-it'd be a shame. But we do love the vertical theme of board and batten to wainscoting to beadboard cabinets. My grandparents had wainscoting in their home too, like a lot of different farmhouses had. Good for getting bumped into and what not, and will protect the clay plaster somewhat too.
Great design. Maybe consider flipping the orientation of the banquette to look out the window when you're eating instead of inward. Keep the wall between the living room and kitchen for tv on one side and seating backing on the other. You could design your banquette and pantry as one piece with the pantry on the end.
This is exactly what I came here to say! 🙂
Not a bad idea on the banquette orientation Jill! Someone else also mentioned a TV, but we're going sans TV. None of us have one, and personally I haven't had one since I was 5 (my mom got rid of it), and honestly never missed it since. That being said, I do think that our computers have replaced our entertainment screens, so not saying we're total entertainment ascetics. But having a TV in a space (or in a hotel room or the like), always seemed to affect my psyche a bit. Or the flow of the space, so we're definitely going to just be watching the fire...or the clay dry here. haha.
Good for you going sans TV!! Can't wait to see how the space develops.
Such a fun look at the process! The color scheme looks amazing. I still remember you were setting up, I believe, a platform to sell deadstock fabrics...I was introduced to you and your work during the Green Fashion competition which I entered in. It feels like another lifetime, but very happy to see some lovely textiles creeping into the meadow home 😍
Charlotte, it definitely was another lifetime! My goodness. Nice to see transitions between the different lifetimes. Source4Style was started back in 2009 www.summerrayne.net/source4style ... Are you still in the textiles / design world?
@@FlockFingerLakes Ah yes, source4style! I thought the concept was genius! I ended up shifting to crafts after burning myself out working in fashion. Handwork and the meditative slow nature of it helped me back on track. Now I share those skills with others by teaching (sewing, mending, embroidery, goldwork, knitting) and I work as a part-time organic soapmaker. I still love to create and design, but there is magic in teaching. People becoming makers themselves tend to take better care of what they make and that seeps into other areas of their life.
Enjoy the process 🚪🪟📚
Sander is much more polite than my Grandpa when it comes to composite wood products. He always referred to MDF as "goose-sh*t"!
Well, Sander may come to the same conclusion as he starts to build more! He started off in carpentry in the Netherlands and is just getting back into it, so he's getting to know all the products as he goes.
that’s exciting! 👏🏽
Hello, windows can be a great heat captureer. What a wonderful informative info. I never thought of that. I just replaced 2 of my Hoyas in their hanging planters because the morn. sun was beaming so I felt the area & it had warmed up ( for today only ,I'm in Oh ) I learn so much listening to y'all. Thank U
Thank you Dorothy. Nice to hear from you and glad you found elements of this informative. Some of my plants, too, can get burned from too much sun.
What a great video! ~ just loving all the design ideas, and all the natural earthy colourways. Also liking the mix of vintage and modern furnishing which will look fab. Personally, I would be a little cautious of over-texturizing walls within a smallish space as it could result in looking a little too 'busy' (you also have clothes to think about, as you could end up snagging everything you wear!). Night stands could be a design that fits directly to the wall (off the floor), maybe in the same colours as the wainscoting which would look more integrated. Am so enjoying following the steady progress of the Meadow House!
i just learned so much about home building
Looking forward to the upgrade. Maybe look at using sliding barn doors in a small space. Kind of act like a pocket door.
Full color blue stone is local and can make great bathroom flooring - especially heated from below. Also works with your color scheme.
SOME PLANTS IF YOU WILL!!! I'm dead 🤣🤣🤣🌻
I thought the bthrm door shd be moved to that wall as well! I’m excited to see that lime treatment in the shower, I’ve never heard of that. Can you use bathroom cleaners to sanitize? I love the way Sanders and Summer explain things. Thanks for visual aids like bed placement, 3D diagrams. It all sounds too good to rent out! So many great ideas!
We’re excited about the clay and lime plasters too. Will be nice to show the raw materials and the different application techniques. Traditional materials that have stood the test of time. With the tadelakt and stone, you can use cleaners, but just not any acid-based cleaners.
And Sander’s a whiz with that 3d program. Really has helped all of us visualize the different possibilities and imagine how we ‘feel’ in the space with the layout
Such a pretty video
Really like your design ideas. My experience with dark flooring, everything shows. I sweep and mop my dark floor daily and at the end of the day it looks like I did nothing.
So true! I wish I could redo my fairly new floors - they're an espresso color, and I'm always steam mopping them.
Hahaha. So we should definitely get a broom in every room! :)
so funny how everyone in the comments wants to take the wall down. think theres an obsession with open floor plans. im glad youre keeping it, its more cozy and nice that way. also i wanna live there please 😩
Vox recently posted a video explaining why linoleum is actually the most eco-friendly flooring option. Maybe of interest to you!
Not sure if you should worry about air tightness when R value will be the same. I mean R value is the key - the best glass possible for sure in the windows.
But you cannot have house really air tight - it needs some small constant ventilation. If you close or the tiny cracks when you have problem with ventilation and even more condensation inside. Unless you add some specialised systems to circulate the air.
In my country right now plastic windows without small ventilation wholes are not even allowed in houses. They added this regulation after people started installing really air tight windows.
Yeah, the passive net zero homes around here are so air tight they need an HVAC system. This one moves/breathes, so I don't think we'll be making this air tight. It's just not how it was designed/constructed from the get-go. We went with the double pane, e3, fiberglass windows... Since we are replacing the siding, it made sense to replace windows too, as the budget would allow. We will likely be recycling these windows for cold frames or windows in the barn. So at least those will get some use past their prime!
Did you consider any tiny house floor plans? Everyone goes through the bedroom to entire the bathroom? Also, if you are building a shed, can you put the water heater in the shed? This would open possibilities for a bathroom redesign. I live in a tiny house and have encountered many good ideas but are not actually viable for staying in the home. Good luck, like your descriptions
We hadn't really gone through any tiny house floor plans-not a bad idea at all! I will say we definitely combed the interwebs for good space-saving ideas (so many good ones in the tiny house living world) and that you just pick up from living in smallish apartments for 2/3rds of your life). Honestly, 600 sq ft feels really ample still. But maybe someone else will feel cramped.
You could rent this place for people who are interested to come to visit your place to get inspired with the project which is going on & enjoy the beautiful place … like a package stay you could say … minimum 3 nights Max 7 nights …🤗🤗🤗…
Thanks Leo for that thought. We're all at some point likely going to be living in this space because we don't really have enough bedrooms for all of us (helpful when we're not all at here at once). But after that, we would love to begin opening up this space more.
Think about a cedar or pine T&G wood ceilings, would really make it look cozy cabin feel.
Might have missed it, but what's in the attic? I can see it's not big enough to stand in, but it must have quite some usable space (put the water heater up there?). And how's the insulation of the roof?
Sounds/looks like it going to be a pretty awesome spot!
I though I saw some (silent) clashes between Sander and Joey in the previous video. Although I agree with most of what Sander says, I think you can use more of Joey's ideas, for example about enhancing the usable space on the outside for nice summer evenings.
For that kitchen wall you should demolish the whole thing, and put in a breakfast island. You can put cabinets underneath, and put cabinets where you would put the kitchen table.
Hahaha…your pallet is exactly Summer’s shirt (and wardrobe in general!…!).
we love our earthy tones. :)
They are really lovely…!
If you still plan on doing Airbnb, a wood stove is a no go!
I love u guys!
Ahhh shucks. Sending love your way too! 🐒
I’m sorry, but only a non-painter would so casually remove a north facing window without batting an eye. LOL… But the environmentalist in me agrees with your decision for energy conservation :-)
haha. Sander is a painter of pixels though! But he's also OBSESSED with using as little energy as possible. After seeing the energy bills this winter, I can totally get on board with that! ;)
@@FlockFingerLakes that is very true. And Sander’s work is impeccable!
@@FlockFingerLakes still do calculations if it is really worth :) We did calculations for extra insulation on our walls and outcome was it will pay off in 20+ years when it comes to saving energy during heating. Just because of its cost.
I'm curious if you have to get permits to make all that kind of changes to the layout of the house. In Italy you would have to ask a tonne of permits before going on with the actual work.
A small generator with an automatic flip switch would be great - in the shed (?).
You guys have probably researched this but you didn't mention the soffits or vents on the under side of your roof eave overhang. The long strips that are there are long vents and you need to consider that air flow in the attic.
Window pass through is not a good idea, you loose the wall for TV on sofa side. But if you want to be connected, take the whole wall down. Everyone can enjoy the stove and you can add an kitchen island for more storage. You can even put on wheels for flexibility.
TV can always be mounted suspended from the ceiling.
We considered the open floor plan, but based on how we feel in the space (say if two of us were living / working there), we liked the added layer of wall for separation but the window for light entry and heat exchange. As we start to demo, we may consider changing our minds…feel the space as we go and be more organic with the process. Open to that. As for a TV -none of us have one nor desire one - so we won’t be bringing one into this space. The old tv in the common house was actually the first thing we removed and recycled! That and the microwave. Guess our computers serve as our entertainment devices; and the range and stove will serve as a replacement for the microwave 🙃
Stuart you are so right.
I love the travateen
9.40. The kink in the roof adds interest. It’s not weird at all :-) and why buy wood that you need to paint why not use cedar or larch Then there’s no maintenance for years also. You didn’t mention insulating the floors ? I would 100% recommend insulating the floor
I invite you to visit our house in Oneonta we built by hand - takes VERY little to heat. Over the ZIP we put 4 inches of Roxul, then an air wash, then the wood cladding. 2 feet of cellulose above.
Lunos e2 ductless HRV.
Although it was a labor - now we hardly have any heating costs.
I can't express how this system has improved our lives draft free and cheap with fresh air.
Warm regards
Jennie
Roxul breathes. It's like a warm wool sweater....
One more thing.... Roxul is fireproof. Foam insulation is toxic to inhale in a fire...
I'll take the old windows!!! Recommend instead of scrapping everything - make storm windows on the outside. We did that - it was a game changer. Wow!!!!!!
We always want to scrap the old and build new - but... it's 2022. Getting ti the end of all that...
Looking forwarded to seeing the finished home. Surprised that you didn’t make the kitchen into a private bedroom and had a more sociable entrance in the form of a sitting and kitchen room off the front porch.
It's a good idea Yuna-really like that living experience. It's mainly a cost factor for us: Changing up the plumbing too much gets really costly, so we wanted to keep the plumbing on the east side of the home, where it already is. We will have some minor plumbing work in the bathroom, but not as much as if we moved the kitchen to the other side of the home. We don't have a work desk in the tiny home either, so we think the kitchen table will also serve as the workspace. (I personally love working at the kitchen table), so hopefully that will serve as a slightly more closed off space for working.
Put shutters on the windows then as soon s the sun goes down you shut the shutters. Which keeps the heat in ….You could even make shutters where you clad insulation between wood :-)
I’m giggling at Sander’s questioning tone when he said “diners club”…. 🤣 showing my age…. Do they even have that anymore?
Are there no double-paned windows? It keeps heat inside way better. It's really common in northern countries :)
Good luck.
Do you have access to plant based insulation in the usa ? Much better insulation in the heat of summer for example. Would fit more with your values i think.
What about reclaimed wood flooring?
solar on the roof?
We may consider solar on the nearby barn and having that as a power generator for the rest of the land, but we have to do a lot more research on that before making any decisions.
Seems like a lot of work and expense for the lime application for the shower. Weren't you doing this on a budget for a potential renter? If one of the group wants to live there, it makes more sense. You can use vintage tile to get the shabby chic look you seem to be going for with a lot less hassle.
We determined that we all will likely be living in the Meadow Home at some point. We don’t have enough bedroom space in the common home when we are all there and we aren’t going to be building our own spaces any time soon; and once that common space goes under renovation, this will give us a place to stay. At first we initially thought minimal effort, but we enjoy putting in the extra effort and learning new techniques at this stage of our life, so choosing to do something beautiful and interesting is exciting for us and something the three of us can learn from and hopefully be proud of. We spoke with our clay plasterer about using clay in the bathroom, and that’s how we discovered tadelakt and found out he does that too-and that there are US sources for it (done by another artisan), so we are excited to give that a try. We also love the idea of opening this space up to our family and friends and renters down the line as an option, but it first will serve as a place for us to reside in the midst of other renovations.
@@FlockFingerLakes Thanks for the explanation. I was confused about the purpose based on the prior video. Now that it is going to more of a home for your members, it makes sense to add these artistic personal touches. I look forward to seeing how it all turns out.
Why not remove the wall between kitchen/dinning area and living room and close off the bedroom space ! That way you would have a completely separate space and the option for a guest sleeping in the living room with more privacy. Also the concept that you will limit your ability for placing furniture is not really true, you can still set up furniture as if there were a wall there, like a couch with its back to where the wall once was and a low cupboard/credenza behind it ! Just a thought. Good luck guys ☺️
How about double pane windows for greater insulation? They are common in Europe
yes, double pane is the norm here too. We are also getting e3 windows with the fiberglass trim. Triple pane will be luxe, but it's not within the budget unfortunately-and would have also taken much longer to ship.
Be sure to figure in room for a tv and entertainment electronics 😁
"Tiny house"? It's pretty much the size of my three bed house in London. Lol.
careful with foam insulation - you will have to deal with a lot of small foam particules in your yard. foam is quite an environmental hazard
Yet again Sander teaches himself something new aka complicated 😅🙈
I have to admit I am a bit surprised you are putting clay on perfectly ready walls which just need repaiting. Definitely you are not doing it the easier & cheaper way possible ;)
I like lime & clay though :)
We decided we wanted to make it beautiful. In the end, we're not MVP people. The clay will definitely be more costly compared to a lick of paint, but it's hard to get the same "feeling" with paint. After walking into mother earth's womb, you don't want to leave! :)
My only word of advice is to have fun with it , so many people are afraid of color and I find bland white and tan walls so very boring , Make your renters say "WOW" when they walk through the door.
Ugh, I hate to be a downer
I see you making changes adding huge expenses to a building in areas where it’s already ‘done’.
It’s one thing to make changes necessary to turn an office into a home-but this is a RENTAL home.
Putting in engineered flooring (ohmygosh they will TRASH it!), cladding it in wood siding and altering the walls when painting the wood one color and a neutral on top of the existing would suffice-
I wouldn’t do anything that wasn’t absolutely necessary-especially to the bathroom.
and replacing newer perfectly fine windows, while going overkill on heating for such a small building-you’ll never get your money back on removing those windows
You’re making decisions someone else will have to live with, and they may not have your esthetics.
They may prefer vinyl siding and find wood cladding to be a high-maintenance undesirable (as many do).
Custom built interior for a rental is a risk, as well.
Spend that kind of money on yourselves- not a stranger who may not appreciate what you put into this.
If you were turning this into a visitor’s quarters or in-law house, I could see this attentiveness, but you impose your ideas on a renter-then expect them to foot the bill in their rent-
How do you plan to recoup all that expense?
Whose money are you really spending?
It’s your money to spend how you like, but I’d find wisdom in researching what are the necessities of a rental property, make a check list, and fill that need ONLY.
If you really can’t stand the look of the place as it is, fine, but why not wait until you have an actual income before changing the outside?
I enjoy these videos, and feel kindred in many of your goals.
This one-it’s a hard one to swallow.
I feel like there’s a huge amount of money getting played with, with little to no experience, and you will look back and cringe at how it was spent.
Best-sincerely
Foam is toxic 😢 people are using sheep wool and cotton > do you guys know a sheep 🐑 farmer in the region??? ALSO cotton and wool breath > plastic bags are not healthy for humans to wear or for houses
no natural light left thimbs down
The space has 11 windows (8 still if we take the 3 out). Very ample in windows for such a quaint space, even though they aren’t picture/curtain windows. The north windows don’t add a lot of light -they are blocked by the plantings and a lot of energy is lost out of the north side of the building. Plus it adds more privacy and sound dampening for the bedroom (not that there’s a lot of sound pollution here). But it feels cozier at night and hopefully it will keep more heat in. Always a push-pull with windows since they aren’t the best insulative surfaces.