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  • @soraka-chan5070
    @soraka-chan5070 3 місяці тому +293

    T1 baited everyone to counter guma and keria to hide the fact that zeus was the monster they released in the field.

    • @salvadormunoz1845
      @salvadormunoz1845 3 місяці тому +6

      exactly

    • @matthewchan1441
      @matthewchan1441 3 місяці тому +28

      thats what makes t1 so hard to draft against. it's impossible to draft gap t1's bot lane. they literally play everything XD

    • @johnpauljonesisabadass8134
      @johnpauljonesisabadass8134 2 місяці тому

      ​@matthewchan1441 that means you just ignore and target ban zeus and oner. Faker and botlane can play anything, why ban against them?

    • @C0astDelta
      @C0astDelta 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@johnpauljonesisabadass8134 Doing so allows Mid and Bot to run free which are the main carry roles. Even if Zeus is behind bro can ass pull some insane plays. Oner though if banned against does struggles from my understanding.

    • @JinhoIzanagawa
      @JinhoIzanagawa 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@C0astDeltaThe fact that this shit is true idk how Zeus consistently ass pulls a solo kill after being killed 3 times

  • @DuongNguyen-yr5es
    @DuongNguyen-yr5es 3 місяці тому +360

    i watched caedrel back then and he talked about the world meta shift too. t1 is so good at creating their own style, like when they shown 2adc bot to counter luci+nami and zeri+ lulu. i hope they cook something this year too

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому +45

      T1 have always been creative when it comes to draft! 2023 in particular was special because people kept on saying how t1 created the range support meta. But it was actually very different compared to the lpl teams. Theirs was moreso on play making!!

    • @hanscaniagochan8448
      @hanscaniagochan8448 3 місяці тому +1

      @@mvldayos I'm not really familiar with the term but does wbg lux doesn't count as range support ?

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому +11

      @@hanscaniagochan8448 Lux is a range support! If you have a time stamp I can provide clarification

    • @ChoB1den
      @ChoB1den 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@mvldayoshonestly i think t1's meta is a product of their overall dominance. If they arent ahead of the curve their aggressive botlane style becomes very risky and relyant on leads. Wich they get most of the time, bcs they are just better at laneing then 99% of other teams atm. This is why i think other teams just shouldnt blindly copy t1. Scaling is still one of the best ways to achieve a wincon in draft. Ofc u need a draft that can also survive early, but overall scaling is very op. There are actually so many more picks that are good in pro, that remain almost completely unpicked. Teams lack creativity and blindly copy what the good teams are doing...

    • @LOLzum101
      @LOLzum101 3 місяці тому

      T1 weren't the first to counter with two adc

  • @eryalmario5299
    @eryalmario5299 3 місяці тому +206

    T1 was the only team that ran yone top when other teams were running yone mid lane

    • @jlgg369
      @jlgg369 3 місяці тому +31

      In fact, only Zeus can counter Aatrox with Yone.
      There is an analysis about this match up and mostly Aatrox has the favor (slighly more than 50% win rate on Challenger, for any rank below is Aatrox's favor)
      Which require extreme high level skill that on ranked game, only Challenger player can do it.
      But Zeus can make that happen constantly on Worlds.
      He is the best Top lanner 2023 without any doubt.

  • @SeikiRikodou
    @SeikiRikodou 3 місяці тому +101

    I find it funny that the other teams genuinely tried T1's meta but due to the lack of experience and ideas how to play the comps they fail miserably XD

    • @jlgg369
      @jlgg369 3 місяці тому +12

      All they can do is guess the T1's meta by looking at the ban/pick.
      In Worlds 2023, blue side have better win rate, T1 lose every coin toss.
      LNG thought T1 prioritise duo marksman bot lane, saw Senna then picked Blitcrank (both good for either marksman support or tahm kench)
      But T1 last pick Nilah.
      The worst thing is, NO TEAM ARE GIVING T1 blue side, so Keria or Zeus can last pick every game.
      Just a nightmare for them lol

    • @markangelobalquero7342
      @markangelobalquero7342 3 місяці тому +5

      @@jlgg369T1 is the only team has highest winrate in redside btw hahaha

    • @ChoB1den
      @ChoB1den 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@mvldayos honestly i think t1's meta is a product of their overall dominance. If they arent ahead of the curve their aggressive botlane style becomes very risky and relyant on leads. Wich they get most of the time, bcs they are just better at laneing then 99% of other teams atm. This is why i think other teams just shouldnt blindly copy t1. Scaling is still one of the best ways to achieve a wincon in draft. Ofc u need a draft that can also survive early, but overall scaling is very op. There are actually so many more picks that are good in pro, that remain almost completely unpicked. Teams lack creativity and blindly copy what the good teams are doing...

    • @ziyou2063
      @ziyou2063 3 місяці тому +4

      @@jlgg369 and even JDG won toin coss and chose red side for their first game 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @jlgg369
      @jlgg369 3 місяці тому

      @@ziyou2063 They were trying to deal with T1's double counter red side(keria and Zeus). But they didn't survive that.

  • @birdsarentrealbro
    @birdsarentrealbro 3 місяці тому +161

    Ignoring??? No sir, they built the meta for the tournament. They were in control the whole time, it was amazing to watch.

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому +36

      I agree!! At the start I said that initially t1 tried to copy other teams but after they struggled they did their own style. In quarters the Chinese teams tried to copy and creat their own bot lane range meta but it was still inferior to t1’s!

    • @birdsarentrealbro
      @birdsarentrealbro 3 місяці тому +6

      @@mvldayos it was absolutely incredible what they did. Defining the meta to start off, and then breaking it anyway to play weird stuff.

    • @gabsterrivera5674
      @gabsterrivera5674 3 місяці тому +10

      I think Caedrel summed it up well: T1 found a counter for the Worlds meta. The approach was either to go deeper in that same meta or just arrive at a full counter for that meta, in which case we haven't exactly arrived at a full circle yet, but a circle will eventually form in this perspective

    • @addy405
      @addy405 3 місяці тому

      No sir r u a noob from 19 hundreds 40 plus talking like that 😂

    • @ChoB1den
      @ChoB1den 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@mvldayos honestly i think t1's meta is a product of their overall dominance. If they arent ahead of the curve their aggressive botlane style becomes very risky and relyant on leads. Wich they get most of the time, bcs they are just better at laneing then 99% of other teams atm. This is why i think other teams just shouldnt blindly copy t1. Scaling is still one of the best ways to achieve a wincon in draft. Ofc u need a draft that can also survive early, but overall scaling is very op. There are actually so many more picks that are good in pro, that remain almost completely unpicked. Teams lack creativity and blindly copy what the good teams are doing...

  • @exekieltura1784
    @exekieltura1784 3 місяці тому +31

    At first I said that this worlds is not for T1 since the bot meta revolves around XAYAH and KAI'SA and then T1 changed it!

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому +8

      Yeah it’s truly impressive. It’s a measure of trust towards keria and everyone on t1 to see the world playing melee supp and xayah kaisa then going “this is wrong I’ll play my own way”

  • @lilpink6192
    @lilpink6192 3 місяці тому +33

    Loved the analysis and outlining what gave them the edge! I've always just heard that "T1 beat/reinvented the meta in Worlds 2023 and that's why they won" but never could really grasp what they did that differently,,, but you're explanations are super clear. 8:58 was truly a “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” Sun Tzu, The Art of War moment.
    Worlds 2023 was absolute CINEMA for T1. I know a lot of people who thought that T1 stomping the LPL only losing 1 game to JDG made the watching experience 'boring', but frankly I think it's more impressive than anything. It gave them the confidence to pull off some of the most memorable plays in the whole tournament and showed them that they are rewarded when they play to their strengths. It made their win feel so much more deserved.

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому +6

      Yeah! I enjoyed watching this worlds a ton because of how adaptive t1 was as a team. It’s easy as a spectator but imagine having to scout or play vs them! Suddenly out of nowhere you have to think about bard. The next week jinx tk. The next week senna. The next week Ashe support. You not only had to be ready for what t1 has done but what they WILL do. Master class of adaptation in tournament

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому

      Yeah! I enjoyed watching this worlds a ton because of how adaptive t1 was as a team. It’s easy as a spectator but imagine having to scout or play vs them! Suddenly out of nowhere you have to think about bard. The next week jinx tk. The next week senna. The next week Ashe support. You not only had to be ready for what t1 has done but what they WILL do. Master class of adaptation in tournament

  • @ahkilleuskosmos6836
    @ahkilleuskosmos6836 3 місяці тому +67

    The funny thing is that drafting for hard bot prio and using Guma and Keria to just mechanically beat down their opponents was T1's bread and butter for the entire year (fitting considering how they ultimately won), I remember after watching a couple of the first worlds games with my friend and he went "Huh... Is it just me or is T1's usual draft a hard counter into the meta rn?"

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому +20

      Agreed! What’s even more interesting is that t1 would draft lanes like Ashe-varus and would actually get more advantage topside! The enemy jungle would come bottom because that’s what expected and oner would be invading or ganking. But guma and keria would continue to play like oner was right behind them. This meant that for the enemy team it’s like they were playing vs 2 junglers at the same time!

    • @phantomhearts5577
      @phantomhearts5577 3 місяці тому +3

      You forgot about Zeus owning so much and faker carry when his kids are falling behind and how Oner can steal dragon / baron. Aswell as how oner and faker have synergy.

    • @psy_99
      @psy_99 3 місяці тому +1

      @@phantomhearts5577 Those are things outside of drafting and meta reading. It's worth talking about but I think that's outside the scope of the discussion

    • @chriswho12345
      @chriswho12345 3 місяці тому

      Dwg/DK won in 2020 similarly with nuguri top 1v3 while bot lane existed and shared some pressure with canyon jg making sure things go smoothly

  • @doniherald7745
    @doniherald7745 3 місяці тому +14

    Keria just too OP, he can play anything, and Gumayusi also too good.

  • @WildRiftGameplayandTutorial
    @WildRiftGameplayandTutorial 3 місяці тому +8

    The goal is simple. Allow bot lane to push back enemy adc and support to get plates rather than getting kills and allow Oner to roam on the top side and help Zeus get his powerspikes to take down squishy members. While Faker only has to do is babysit Oner on his jungle pathing and scale. That's why Zeus didn't pick any tank because their primary carry was Zeus and Faker who picks mostly Ori and Azir.

  • @bentucky4324
    @bentucky4324 3 місяці тому +12

    Thanks for the highly informative and educational video.
    Even though months have since passed after Worlds, it’s these incredibly well versed analysis that always brings me back to that Worlds hype moments.

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому

      Hope you’re excited for msi!

  • @SamusAram
    @SamusAram 3 місяці тому

    Really enjoy the meta reading and would like to see more for previous Worlds tournaments!

  • @keroga8635
    @keroga8635 3 місяці тому +6

    Kkoma would never think of this, unless he saw this video.

  • @panagiotisbogiatzis2221
    @panagiotisbogiatzis2221 3 місяці тому +4

    Tom is the god of draft also in psg his drafting was amazing

  • @SW-xg6me
    @SW-xg6me 3 місяці тому +9

    FINALLY a vid from Coach Dayos. You're a beast, bro. Love your work

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому

      Ty Ty appreciate all the support

  • @long9961
    @long9961 3 місяці тому +1

    my goat coach dayos back at it again

  • @itemtest1
    @itemtest1 3 місяці тому +3

    The main problem is that every team is just copying whoever is winning, instead trying to counter it. There is a counter to every style you just have to find it🤔🤔

  • @lirinnaufal
    @lirinnaufal 3 місяці тому

    Never played lol and never followed the pro scene but it was interesting to see a team shape a meta single handedly.

  • @nightslayer5066
    @nightslayer5066 3 місяці тому +6

    With what you said about T1 generating strong Lvl 1 and bot pressure, can you make a video in how they faltered in JDG games in that style. Im not saying they were bad there, but it can be seen that T1 had struggles in the Early game in the JDG Series. Notably the 3rd game where T1 narrowly win.

    • @markangelobalquero7342
      @markangelobalquero7342 3 місяці тому

      bro JDG is by far the greatest team that time and the heavy favorites to win worlds. even T1 shifted the meta is not easy to beat JDG tho. but because T1 shift meta strat made JDG not to play LPL playstyle but to adjust and to play for T1 playstyle the reason JDG faltered.

    • @nightslayer5066
      @nightslayer5066 3 місяці тому +1

      @@markangelobalquero7342 that is pretty doubtful, because Ruler is the best ADC in that tourney, with T1 strat literally being read by JDG. T1 faltered cause JDG read it, yet they lost not cause of the Strat. Ruler literally generated huge pressure for T1 even in Lvl1. Look at game 3, They dove T1 even though it failed, They actually read that they are losing the fight (T1 read they will lose) but they did not expect Ashe to die perhaps... Ruler knows how to fight the Aggressive Lvl1 Bot, they implemented it even...

    • @cryofrostrs3856
      @cryofrostrs3856 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@nightslayer5066They lost because they tried imitating T1's meta instead of using their strengths. It was clear in the entire series. Besides, even then, they were still losing individually in most of the series

  • @keychrons7200
    @keychrons7200 3 місяці тому +2

    Good video, I think you should also mention that in their final game at worlds vs WBG they went back to the Xayah Rakan botlane

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому +1

      I mentioned it briefly but vs wbg t1 changed their draft style again. This time locking in strong bot lane comboes 1-2 to give Zeus counter pick vs the shy. It’s very impressive because they were one of the few teams to actively prep vs each teams tendencies!

    • @plebbutter3811
      @plebbutter3811 3 місяці тому +1

      @@mvldayos And as caedrel's chat is always keen to remind him, it definitely worked lmao

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому

      @@plebbutter3811 bring back the shy!

  • @CollinTesta
    @CollinTesta 3 місяці тому +1

    The best example of them getting information and prioritizing top and mid for early trades is LNG vs T1 in game 3 of worlds. When oner invaded sej's blue, we see that bot lane can safely trade and push their lane from jg being top side along with mid and top being able to take safe trades. This resulted in oner and faker nearly killing ahri level 3 and giving faker pressure mid while also setting Sej behind.
    It really was all calculated geniusly by Tom and the Players. Well deserved worlds win.

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому +1

      Have you seen my other video? I actually talk about this exactly play great eye!! ua-cam.com/video/kkZECOzvYiM/v-deo.htmlsi=mWEmUI0F5OX-jQZO

    • @zombieprodigyz
      @zombieprodigyz 3 місяці тому

      Ill watch it now! T1 were crazy during worlds ​@@mvldayos

  • @tgseetoh
    @tgseetoh 3 місяці тому

    T1 didn't ignore the meta, the redefined it causing everyone else to change their gameplan and play comps that they are not used to just to follow. Similar to how FPX played in 2019 where they played whatever dark tech doinb had to confuse their opponents to make them play out of their comfort zones and move one step faster than the rest of the competition

  • @TheKevinGeee
    @TheKevinGeee 3 місяці тому +5

    T1 always follows the meta against GENG then loses. At this currentl lose-streak against GENG they should just wing it.

    • @JY-mh8fr
      @JY-mh8fr 3 місяці тому +4

      Godamn right! T1 plays incredible without relying on the meta so much. T1 plays a comp with stronger synergies. I hate it when t1 wants to match geng by playing geng style as well. Hopefully t1 play great at playoffs 14.6 seems a good fit for their playstyle

    • @mykellederickpalad7883
      @mykellederickpalad7883 3 місяці тому +5

      Their draft against gen.g looks way different versus when they fight other teams. They should show the confidence they had last worlds when fighting gen.g

  • @CorruptedDust
    @CorruptedDust 3 місяці тому

    T1 never has to follow the meta. They are the meta

  • @rylentsuha4705
    @rylentsuha4705 3 місяці тому

    such a good vid

  • @Yujix-dj8xr
    @Yujix-dj8xr 3 місяці тому

    Hope they are cooking something for playoffs 😬

  • @pshyduc9583
    @pshyduc9583 Місяць тому

    Even now, they use kalista as a support

  • @dave1123
    @dave1123 3 місяці тому

    If you have the best support in the world, you can create a new meta in bot lane anytime...most of their success in creating the new meta was mainly due to Keria pulling out these support picks that works for their advantage...

  • @Zyra_Cameron
    @Zyra_Cameron 2 місяці тому

    the thing is, T1 plays even the riskiest champs, thats why they can experiment and throw off other teams because they cant counter weird selections.

  • @KomplaseChankaewrae
    @KomplaseChankaewrae 3 місяці тому +4

    i love u content brother 😍

  • @RC-hi5sj
    @RC-hi5sj 3 місяці тому +1

    Good content I hope more will notice the channel

  • @babyboomer3388
    @babyboomer3388 3 місяці тому

    The real reason is everyone on T1 (especially Guma/Keria) has a very large champ pool, even later in the playoffs when other LPL teams start to adapt their draft. BLG vs WBG for example, every time they play something like Bard or Ashe it’s just a shitshow

  • @princedirt87
    @princedirt87 3 місяці тому +2

    HOW T1 won WORLDS
    1. Recruit Keria
    2. Let him cook.

  • @grozaleonard
    @grozaleonard 2 місяці тому

    Mark my words, if someone manages to kick out GenG out of MSI, T1 are bringing it home

  • @Airrenlol
    @Airrenlol 2 місяці тому

    this shit waas so good

  • @alexalvarado2048
    @alexalvarado2048 3 місяці тому +1

    This is such a great vid explainign how T1 shifted de meta completly, really deserves a like and subscibe. I recomend you to watch "Pirámides al 13.19" by Cabramaravilla, he's an spanish analyst and that video is an indept view of how world's meta evolved from playin all the way to finals, youtube automatic subtitles aren't great, but they help to understand.

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому

      I just watched! I was very impressed by his editing, knowledge, and story telling. I think English speakers are missing content creators like that. I will do my best to fill that gap!

  • @conneryechout7143
    @conneryechout7143 2 місяці тому

    4:50 "cheems"

  • @tristan2338
    @tristan2338 3 місяці тому

    Think corku will be T1 again as the mid meta pushes anything melee ranged

  • @skywalkerjohn8965
    @skywalkerjohn8965 3 місяці тому +1

    Everything is meta if you are goodenough

  • @gordonvincent29
    @gordonvincent29 3 місяці тому

    Good video

  • @tristan2338
    @tristan2338 3 місяці тому +1

    Do you think there will be a death of the adc bot role?

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому

      I think adc will remain strong! One time mages bot were op and I think the community didn’t like it so riot will prob make sure it doesn’t happen again

  • @CanyoufeelitnowMrKrabzz
    @CanyoufeelitnowMrKrabzz 3 місяці тому +4

    This is like ASMR 😅

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому +1

      Good thing or bad thing! Haha

  • @hiw3128
    @hiw3128 3 місяці тому +9

    Essentially they couldnt play the meta so they changed the meta

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  3 місяці тому +6

      I think a big part of it too was that they thought the meta didn’t make sense! In the vid there was a translation of Keira’s thoughts where he said that he was confused why people were picking melee supports. That he wouldn’t want to play melee vs the top side meta

    • @klumzyee
      @klumzyee 3 місяці тому

      well yes and no, because by definition this is a superior meta

  • @tarantulatar1410
    @tarantulatar1410 3 місяці тому +2

    blud is yapping nonsense

  • @Karenmarquesf
    @Karenmarquesf 3 місяці тому

    T1 was the meta

  • @qwacker9596
    @qwacker9596 3 місяці тому

    dayos got that skibidi rizz

  • @user-pg4cm6ep8n
    @user-pg4cm6ep8n 3 місяці тому

    sadly this genius idea of range supp will be shut down by a stupid champ called smolder

    • @ziyou2063
      @ziyou2063 3 місяці тому +4

      and glad to see significant nerf in patch 14.6 and the smolder couldn't used in pro match anymore.

    • @atehvir800
      @atehvir800 3 місяці тому

      They have bans lol

    • @user-pg4cm6ep8n
      @user-pg4cm6ep8n 3 місяці тому

      @@atehvir800 then u just wasting bans and constant ban on smolder doesn't look good on mainstage

    • @papadwarf3953
      @papadwarf3953 3 місяці тому

      @@user-pg4cm6ep8n if a champ is op why not?

  • @R0ronoaZor0
    @R0ronoaZor0 3 місяці тому

    And now their draft is shit

  • @frasierjoseph
    @frasierjoseph 3 місяці тому

    can you not put the words on the screen for what you are just going to say? It's not necessary as the pictures and your commentary are good enough.

  • @valiboss2012
    @valiboss2012 3 місяці тому

    Yeah still is GenG>T1>LPL>GenG kekw , I’m a huge T1 fan but this is the reality at least in my opinion they can win 2024 also if is not GenG in finals kekw

    • @alvinlim9142
      @alvinlim9142 2 місяці тому +1

      Im a GenG fan but Ksante merchant just to win? I don't think they're the best team in LCK. Scared of Vayne LOL

  • @jorgam1
    @jorgam1 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey man, the content is pretty good but the editing is the worst i've seen on youtube in a long time. The actual information (like the picks, or what keria is saying about a certain pick) flashes on the screen for 1 second, but then there's long takes of the exact thing you're saying in the middle of the page and random illustrations. It also has a very static cutting rhytm. I understand it's easy to edit like this but it makes for a borderline unwatchable video, which is a shame cause the stuff you're saying is very interesting.
    Please re-consider editing your own stuff, or change styles to something more substantial.

  • @Frstypwngaming
    @Frstypwngaming 3 місяці тому

    Nah faker really just scared all of China with the "All Roads Lead To Me" and "I've never lost to an LPL team at world's and I won't start now"

  • @RobloxLOL415
    @RobloxLOL415 3 місяці тому

    Imagine if WBG banned aatrox every game would've been GG

  • @stormace343
    @stormace343 3 місяці тому

    all you need to do was ban aatrox, rell and rumble. rito kept azir and orianna in meta cos faker can only play those and ahri.
    rito wants t1 to win worlds. cos lck wievers are dropping its all about money boys.
    there is no world t1 wins against that lng nor jdg

  • @onlybier9821
    @onlybier9821 3 місяці тому

    cringe T1 glazer

    • @papadwarf3953
      @papadwarf3953 3 місяці тому

      they gapped the entire lpl lol what you mean

  • @Spryzing
    @Spryzing 3 місяці тому +1

    Not going to take away what T1 has done but If Gen G Hadnt choked against Blg it could've been very different

    • @aznfox3567
      @aznfox3567 3 місяці тому

      GenG only good at LCK, T1 is the only true international team vs 3 chinese powerhouse

    • @papadwarf3953
      @papadwarf3953 3 місяці тому

      but they did tho. If we go by ifs and maybes then t1 should be 6-7 times world champion by now

    • @clp4869
      @clp4869 2 місяці тому

      they put blg in game 5 but I dont think 2023 Geng can win against Lng or Wbg either,
      t1 style is just good against these 2 teams which makes their worlds run easier

  • @Chris-ih4hj
    @Chris-ih4hj 3 місяці тому +2

    This video is bullsht

  • @ClickHere4Naruto
    @ClickHere4Naruto 3 місяці тому

    They didnt ignore the meta and played their style. Their style happened to be a big part of the meta, at least as far as it was discovered.