You are right about retaking the shot, most bloggers would explain it away or not even admit it. Analog is more rewarding but then it’s more punishing... O squeezed out 3 hours from my schedule to do printing and did 8 prints in total. All were scrapped.
Each video is a masterclass of photography. Not by result, but by the process and the thorns you gotta get through. Matthew, thank you ever so much. I’ve just obtained an Hasselblad 500c, and your videos are a wonderful display of what I gotta overcome. Please, keep producing the videos, and say if there is a modest way to cover the time you spend on producing them.
Thank you. That means a great deal to me. You have gotten yourself a real gem of a camera! Nothing built today can compare with how these cameras were made. They are a piece of art and history in my opinion. Among the most enjoyable cameras to use. I do have affiliate links set up and have thought about Patreon and other things... this for me has not really about making money (though money helps for sure.) I have enjoyed learning new video skills (as well as learning more about film, scanning, darkroom, etc...) It has so far been a labor of love and very rewarding to see people learning new skills from these videos. One thing is for sure. I have a new appreciation for all of the UA-cam channels out there. I had no idea the amount of work that goes into a channel! I want to create a resource for young (and old photographers) who want to learn darkroom & photography skills. I am and will be developing some in-depth courses in the future for anyone who really wants to learn how to master shooting and printing black and white film.
I enjoy following your process, and even more so your thoughts. Thank you for sharing. I also have a Technika and Linhof 6x12 back. "Yep" to everything. 👌 Actually, I can totally relate to the abridged decisions in the cold, because I lived in Noway for 18 years, but then I was managing a Hasselblad outfit, with all that went with -20°C. From there I relocated in Central Thailand, where instead of fingers going numb, sweat from the heat runs down into the eyes, and just for fun, the old bladder decides it's time for relief. The things we do for art, hey. 😊
Cold? Your dark cloth sounded like a crispy taco😂. I love shooting with my 6x12 back. I currently have a Chamonix but am lusting for the Linhof. Great video.
6x12 is the format I most enjoy. Had a Shenhao 6x17 but sold it. However, Horseman backs are not inexpensive anymore (cheapest on EBay at $700 USD). I would love to find a similar scene using Vision3 500T cut for 120 format. Your images are beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
Wow, they did go up in price ( like everything else). I believe I paid about half of that a few years back. Still worth it if you want the format. Not much else that come close to the quality that I know of.
Thanks for the video. I have a 6x7cm back for my 4x5 inch view camera and was considering buying a 6x12cm back for panoramic images; however, based on the price of a 6x12 back, I think I will continue cropping my 4x5 images instead.
Yes, it makes placing the zone values so much easier... Not sure who came up with it but it is as if it should have been made from the factory with this scale on it!
All things considered, that' a very nice result. You might be able to correct the verticals you were worried about while printing by tilting your enlarging ease just a bit. It's not an absolute way to correct that 100% of the time but there are times when it offers a simple solution and especially handy in those situations where you can't really go back and shoot again for whatever reason.
Thank you! I did think about that but my lens plane on the enlarger does not tilt at all so could cause focus problems too. This is right down the street from me so not hard to redo!
@@Distphoto yeah it definitely is a solution with lots of limitations. I mentioned the "can't really go back and re-shoot" scenario because I seem to fall into that nasty habit of saying "I'll stop and shoot that later when I have camera X or Y with me" and then inevitably I stop by the subject the next day with camera X or Y and there is a bulldozer out front and half the building is gone. At least with this one they just restored the marquee on the hotel so that's definitely a step in the right direction of conservation. Definitely let that building facade give you a few more chances at it.
@@GreggObst been there too😂.. hopefully they will keep this place standing for a few more weeks. They do seem to tear down most of the coolest architecture and old buildings around here!
That was one of those really cold and not at all used to kinda nights... Mostly its the wind chill other wise not so bad! I had LAFlex Camera do it for me but have done light seals before. you basically have to carefully scrape and clean the old deteriorated seal out and glue in a new one. you can buy kits for most cameras or just cut your own material. They did a really nice job and it looks good as new!
@@Distphoto you only cut the dark slide in half for the area that is exposed to Film. The end at the slit stays full size. I made my own but you can buy one fromChamonix
My Wista45DX doesn't take Graflok backs, but Wista made roll film holders for their cameras luckily. My 6x9 is fun, though it's a bit weird to have such large negatives in 3x2 ratio.
Wista’s are beautiful cameras I like 6x9 too as lit is so familiar. I find 6x 12 a little more challenging to find the right composition. But when you find something that it fits well it is nice 👍
one tip to note here, this is a LATER technika (IV, V, 2000,3000); these have a graflok back, or otherwise termed an "international fit back", same thing, a graffic back, was as I have heard on a youtubers video, can't remember who, is SPECIFIC to speed graffic cameras (the SLR's that look like a car battery in size), these have specific rails that the holders fit inside, and are DIFFERENT to the Graflok system; the early Technikas' have an option of a spring back, the glass frame is not separable from the format frame (the thing which rotates on the rear standard ring mount), the other, as used on single sheet metal double_dark holders, esp. on early 5x7 formats, is what can be likened to a window cill, fixed cill on bottom, and a spring bar the whole width of the format, on top, which locks the holder onto the frame, and these BOTH can not take any 120 back holders, the spring CAN, but this is the special horesman/toyo so called "there & back again" backs, which fit in the holder gap, no modification required. the only other option is Linhof's own 56x72 (70mm film) or super rollex 120 holders, which have the ring fixing on a plate on the rear of these backs.
Thanks! What kind of focusing cloth do you use and how it is connected to your Linhof (it sounds like Velcro but I would hesitate to glue some Velcro on my Linhof).
It is the Harrison small version.... There is velcro on the inside edges of the dark cloth and I put small self adhesive tabs on the Linhof. They tend to fall off and do not want to use Glue,,,,, or will not I should say. best system I have come up with so far. I also have a BTZS dark cloth witch I like and it has an aelastc opening for around the camera. But I find I am always paranoid about knocking the camera out of place when removing it so have moved to the current setup.
I know exactly how you feel! Most would not really notice the lines except maybe critical photographers and yourself! In the end it's your work ant you care enough to want it to be your best effort!
Why not add some more rise on your lens. Sadly, this photo is not square and plumb. Look at the window on the far right. So close to greatness, but not quite.
You are right about retaking the shot, most bloggers would explain it away or not even admit it. Analog is more rewarding but then it’s more punishing... O squeezed out 3 hours from my schedule to do printing and did 8 prints in total. All were scrapped.
I feel your pain... I scrap way more than I keep!
Each video is a masterclass of photography. Not by result, but by the process and the thorns you gotta get through. Matthew, thank you ever so much. I’ve just obtained an Hasselblad 500c, and your videos are a wonderful display of what I gotta overcome. Please, keep producing the videos, and say if there is a modest way to cover the time you spend on producing them.
Thank you. That means a great deal to me.
You have gotten yourself a real gem of a camera! Nothing built today can compare with how these cameras were made. They are a piece of art and history in my opinion. Among the most enjoyable cameras to use.
I do have affiliate links set up and have thought about Patreon and other things... this for me has not really about making money (though money helps for sure.) I have enjoyed learning new video skills (as well as learning more about film, scanning, darkroom, etc...) It has so far been a labor of love and very rewarding to see people learning new skills from these videos.
One thing is for sure. I have a new appreciation for all of the UA-cam channels out there. I had no idea the amount of work that goes into a channel!
I want to create a resource for young (and old photographers) who want to learn darkroom & photography skills. I am and will be developing some in-depth courses in the future for anyone who really wants to learn how to master shooting and printing black and white film.
Thank you for the “warts and all “ presentation loved it !
Glad you enjoyed it!
I enjoy following your process, and even more so your thoughts. Thank you for sharing. I also have a Technika and Linhof 6x12 back. "Yep" to everything. 👌
Actually, I can totally relate to the abridged decisions in the cold, because I lived in Noway for 18 years, but then I was managing a Hasselblad outfit, with all that went with -20°C. From there I relocated in Central Thailand, where instead of fingers going numb, sweat from the heat runs down into the eyes, and just for fun, the old bladder decides it's time for relief.
The things we do for art, hey. 😊
Indeed🤣
Nice work. Very honest, refreshing.
Thank you!
Cold? Your dark cloth sounded like a crispy taco😂. I love shooting with my 6x12 back. I currently have a Chamonix but am lusting for the Linhof. Great video.
It was quite crunchy :)
6x12 is the format I most enjoy. Had a Shenhao 6x17 but sold it. However, Horseman backs are not inexpensive anymore (cheapest on EBay at $700 USD). I would love to find a similar scene using Vision3 500T cut for 120 format. Your images are beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
Wow, they did go up in price ( like everything else). I believe I paid about half of that a few years back. Still worth it if you want the format. Not much else that come close to the quality that I know of.
Thanks for the video.
I have a 6x7cm back for my 4x5 inch view camera and was considering buying a 6x12cm back for panoramic images; however, based on the price of a 6x12 back, I think I will continue cropping my 4x5 images instead.
The prices have gone up quite a bit since I bought mine. Nice to have for roll film but like you said. Cropping is easily done!
Nice job man, I have a similar setup with a Horseman L45 & Horseman 6x9 roll back, very fun and VERY heavy.
Thanks, yeah it is a bit of a tank 👍
Zone label on Pentax spotmeter is a genius idea!
Yes, it makes placing the zone values so much easier... Not sure who came up with it but it is as if it should have been made from the factory with this scale on it!
All things considered, that' a very nice result. You might be able to correct the verticals you were worried about while printing by tilting your enlarging ease just a bit. It's not an absolute way to correct that 100% of the time but there are times when it offers a simple solution and especially handy in those situations where you can't really go back and shoot again for whatever reason.
Thank you! I did think about that but my lens plane on the enlarger does not tilt at all so could cause focus problems too. This is right down the street from me so not hard to redo!
@@Distphoto yeah it definitely is a solution with lots of limitations. I mentioned the "can't really go back and re-shoot" scenario because I seem to fall into that nasty habit of saying "I'll stop and shoot that later when I have camera X or Y with me" and then inevitably I stop by the subject the next day with camera X or Y and there is a bulldozer out front and half the building is gone. At least with this one they just restored the marquee on the hotel so that's definitely a step in the right direction of conservation. Definitely let that building facade give you a few more chances at it.
@@GreggObst been there too😂.. hopefully they will keep this place standing for a few more weeks. They do seem to tear down most of the coolest architecture and old buildings around here!
Very nice shot, better than me no cold shooting.
How do you replace the light seals?
That was one of those really cold and not at all used to kinda nights... Mostly its the wind chill other wise not so bad!
I had LAFlex Camera do it for me but have done light seals before. you basically have to carefully scrape and clean the old deteriorated seal out and glue in a new one. you can buy kits for most cameras or just cut your own material.
They did a really nice job and it looks good as new!
beautiful.. I only use hassy at the moment and looking into 4*5. This back looks really cool format!
It really is. It is a bit strange but nice coming from shooting a lot of 6x6!
I didn’t know you had a Linhof! I got one. Only one shot so far, but it’s a lovely negative. The camera is so precise :)
Yes! Such an amazing piece of work. Love using it and yes the negs are quite exquisite!
Thanks for sharing this - I am looking for a project and a simple cost savings with 120 film. The backs though are costly...
They have gone up quite a bit since I got mine. can still find them if your patient.
Another fun option for pano on 4x5 is to cut or buy a half dark slide. You get 4 shots per holder 2"x5" each. :)
That sounds rather interesting. How would you keep light from leaking in the slit?
@@Distphoto you only cut the dark slide in half for the area that is exposed to Film. The end at the slit stays full size. I made my own but you can buy one fromChamonix
Excellent video. Can we attach a Horseman 617 film back to this camera ?? Is it compatible without any modifications? Thanks
Thanks, I believe you can but think they make an adapter and it limits your lenses a bit but not 100% sure.
My enlarger has a 6x9 diffuser box option , so you think I can squeeze 6x12 out of it or do I need something else ? Would I suffer vignette?
You can give it a shot but think you will have vignetting.
@@Distphoto I think a 45 enlarger may be heading my way soon
My Wista45DX doesn't take Graflok backs, but Wista made roll film holders for their cameras luckily. My 6x9 is fun, though it's a bit weird to have such large negatives in 3x2 ratio.
Wista’s are beautiful cameras I like 6x9 too as lit is so familiar. I find 6x 12 a little more challenging to find the right composition. But when you find something that it fits well it is nice 👍
one tip to note here, this is a LATER technika (IV, V, 2000,3000); these have a graflok back, or otherwise termed an "international fit back", same thing, a graffic back, was as I have heard on a youtubers video, can't remember who, is SPECIFIC to speed graffic cameras (the SLR's that look like a car battery in size), these have specific rails that the holders fit inside, and are DIFFERENT to the Graflok system; the early Technikas' have an option of a spring back, the glass frame is not separable from the format frame (the thing which rotates on the rear standard ring mount), the other, as used on single sheet metal double_dark holders, esp. on early 5x7 formats, is what can be likened to a window cill, fixed cill on bottom, and a spring bar the whole width of the format, on top, which locks the holder onto the frame, and these BOTH can not take any 120 back holders, the spring CAN, but this is the special horesman/toyo so called "there & back again" backs, which fit in the holder gap, no modification required. the only other option is Linhof's own 56x72 (70mm film) or super rollex 120 holders, which have the ring fixing on a plate on the rear of these backs.
Thanks, This gets super confusing and the references are hard to come by.
That was the first thing I noticed when I looked at the contact print. :) So sorry, but you cannot get away with that.
I know… It was a bit painful 🤷🏻♂️
@@Distphoto But at least you gained a new subscriber :)
Thanks! What kind of focusing cloth do you use and how it is connected to your Linhof (it sounds like Velcro but I would hesitate to glue some Velcro on my Linhof).
It is the Harrison small version.... There is velcro on the inside edges of the dark cloth and I put small self adhesive tabs on the Linhof. They tend to fall off and do not want to use Glue,,,,, or will not I should say. best system I have come up with so far.
I also have a BTZS dark cloth witch I like and it has an aelastc opening for around the camera. But I find I am always paranoid about knocking the camera out of place when removing it so have moved to the current setup.
@@Distphoto thank you very much!
I know exactly how you feel! Most would not really notice the lines except maybe critical photographers and yourself! In the end it's your work ant you care enough to want it to be your best effort!
Can be so maddening… but worth it in the end. Thanks!
No Multi-focus Viewfinder?
Nope, have the rangefinder coupled but no viewfinder.
Why not get a few Grafmatics and have 6 septums in each Grafmatic?
That said I agree. I'd love the 6x12 but I've got my 6x9 Horseman 8 Exp.
Now that is a very intriguing idea 🤔. Thank you!
@@Distphoto this vod is one of the most detailed I've found on its operation/function. ua-cam.com/video/kk-MzHEmyVc/v-deo.html
@@ElGrecoDaGeek awesome, Thanks!
Why not add some more rise on your lens. Sadly, this photo is not square and plumb. Look at the window on the far right. So close to greatness, but not quite.
Yeah, it was a real bummer to see the negative slightly off...
Just get to the point !!!!