1946 Toscanini "La boheme" broadcast - Jan Peerce & Licia Albanese - "Che gelida manina"

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    Act I excerpt & "Che gelida manina" from Puccini's "La bohème" sung by Jan Peerce (Rodolfo), Frank Valentino (Marcello), Nicola Moscona (Colline), George Cehanovsky (Schaunard), and Licia Albanese (Mimì). Arturo Toscanini conducts the NBC Symphony Orchestra. February 3, 1946 radio broadcast from NBC Studio 8-H, New York, NY. This was dubbed and remastered by me from the original LP release and (I think) the sound is better than the official CD release!
    Pictures are of Toscanini conducting in 1946.

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  • @dracher
    @dracher 7 років тому +22

    Anyone who listens to this recording and finds fault with Mr Peerce's diction, phrasing or singing voice, has very little knowledge of opera singing. Jan Peerce was one of the giants of the art form, his musicianship was second to none, and his technique was as solid as a rock.

    • @sebastiandangerfield9933
      @sebastiandangerfield9933 5 років тому +11

      I totally agree with dracher - Jan Peerce was a great, great tenor, and a great musician. His singing on this recording is phenomenal, especially in Act III. Some of you people out there are just deaf!!

    • @shicoff1398
      @shicoff1398 2 роки тому +1

      @@sebastiandangerfield9933 correct! Act 3 is tough and he was wonderful in it.

    • @user-co5eo3ow8b
      @user-co5eo3ow8b 9 місяців тому

      Toscanini dirigeva con note elevate il problema era lui

    • @Colgate64
      @Colgate64 7 місяців тому

      Couldn't agree more. Peerce was an incredibly talented tenor and was a giant in his time. Listening to this recording still gives me shivers to hear the excellence of Peerce and Ms. Albanese.

  • @Gorboduc
    @Gorboduc 5 років тому +24

    "In the broadcast of La Boheme he sang along with me - in the aria especially; and in the third act, my God, he helped me cry. You can hear it on the record; and there are some people who say 'It spoils the record'. And I tell them, 'Isn't that funny; for me it makes the record'. Imagine hearing Toscanini - not planning it, just naturally singing faintly in the background - and knowing this guy's blood is on that record; and some shmo says 'That spoils it'. They don't know what inspires people." - Jan Peerce, The Toscanini Musicians Knew, pg. 115

  • @glenhaddock6065
    @glenhaddock6065 10 років тому +36

    I met Jan Peerce twice, 5 years apart in a receiving line after performances. I introduced myself with a handshake and moved on. Five years later I met him again under similar circumstances 2,500 miles away. At the 2nd meeting without my saying a word, he looked me in the eye and said "I know you, you're Glen Haddock. I met you 5 years ago" and he named the place. I have marveled at his remarkable memory these many years as well as admiring his work. I also have his autograph on his program if it is worth anything to anybody.

    • @q2breath
      @q2breath 6 років тому +1

      It should be aortha great deal...To you! ;)

    • @rubenorta7189
      @rubenorta7189 6 років тому

      I suppose you were or still is a very importan person

    • @richardschewel3674
      @richardschewel3674 6 років тому +1

      Did anyone notice the voice of God and VB singing with Pierce?

    • @richardschewel3674
      @richardschewel3674 6 років тому

      Sorry,Toscaninii

    • @Ruffiello
      @Ruffiello 5 років тому +1

      Merrill, in one of his books, mentions Peerce's remarkable ability to do this! What you experienced was not a singular occurrence. Smart man!

  • @mrspanamadi
    @mrspanamadi 13 років тому +10

    I just love it when I can hear Toscannini getting carried away....it makes it even more human and beautiful to me.

  • @spizzell1
    @spizzell1 12 років тому +13

    this is just great!!! I love it. I love hearing him sing along!!!!!!!! Jan Peerce is great!!!!

  • @stevenj9970
    @stevenj9970 3 роки тому +5

    What a wonderful post! Pierce sounds amazing as was Toscanini the conductor who premiered this opera and the NBC symphony, it just doesn’t get any better than that, it just doesn’t.

  • @KASH10043
    @KASH10043 9 років тому +4

    This is truly amazing; to think that Toscanini conducted the premier of La Boheme in 1890 and did it again here in this 1946 broadcast. And to hear him humming along in parts is wonderful.

  • @wendychen5779
    @wendychen5779 2 роки тому +3

    A side note for those interested in the art of Jan Peerce: his prominent role in the performance of Toscanini's rearrangement of Verdi's "The Hymn of the Nations" (available in a rare war-time (WW II) patriotic-themed film recording) is supreme, unmatched by any other tenor in the same role that I have heard, including one by the world-famous tenor (hint: his name begins with a P, under the baton of James Levine). It's small wonder that Toscanini also chose Peerce in his (final?) recording of Beethoven's 9th Symphony with the NBC Symphony Orchestra.

    • @sgnmath1234
      @sgnmath1234 Рік тому

      That tenor whose last name begins with P...Hmmm, let's see......O yes...Paul Potts !!!

  • @marianneluban3347
    @marianneluban3347 7 років тому +4

    Excellent singing and no slow tempo for the maestro, obviously I don't think I've ever heard "Boheme" at this pace otherwise.

  • @TonyGonzalez-jz8jm
    @TonyGonzalez-jz8jm Рік тому +1

    I have read that Toscanini was moved when humming along and was in tears throughout the aria

  • @Musacalliope
    @Musacalliope 12 років тому +3

    Toscanini che canta mentre dirige è commovente.

  • @16785801
    @16785801 11 років тому +16

    I'm listening to my almost flawless copy of Toscanini’s 1946 NBC recording of La Boheme. Toscanini conducted the 1890 premiere. This 1946 recording is considered by many including me to be the definitive recording. The close collaboration between Toscanini and Puccini during the 1890 production sets this 1946 recording apart from others. A single microphone above Toscanini’s head “heard” the same as Toscanini. A second microphone was used for the vocals. No editing or overdubs. It's Toscanini.

  • @FAUSTORICCARDO
    @FAUSTORICCARDO 13 років тому +2

    A beautiful recording. A voice clean and clear.
    Very good, grazie

  • @cimbassovr
    @cimbassovr 2 роки тому

    Fantastico❤👍❤👍❤👍grazie della condivisione!!!Grandissimo Jan Peerce!!!

  • @rickos1915
    @rickos1915 10 років тому +9

    Peerce had a phenomenal technique and a glow to his sound...and impeccable musicianship

  • @marie-jeannevallecalle9991
    @marie-jeannevallecalle9991 10 місяців тому

    Toscanini génial 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @abcnowcontrol
    @abcnowcontrol 3 роки тому +3

    Jan Peerce...Licia Albanese...Toscanini (Immortal Supreme perfection).

  • @Deedee5858
    @Deedee5858 7 років тому +1

    Very nice job with the remastering!

  • @XX-gy7ue
    @XX-gy7ue 4 роки тому +2

    MAGNIFICENT !!!!

  • @Ruffiello
    @Ruffiello 5 років тому +2

    Marvelous singing.

  • @MrGer2295
    @MrGer2295 5 років тому

    Wonderful ! Thank you for posting.

  • @YTM021807
    @YTM021807 13 років тому +2

    Awesome!

  • @mino7520
    @mino7520 3 роки тому +2

    Che piaccere, questi si che erano cantanti !

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo  11 років тому +2

    Actually, Toscanini brought out the best from the singers that performed under him. Few of the them would even agree with your comments.

  • @MariaMorales-cr8hi
    @MariaMorales-cr8hi Рік тому +1

    La unica opera de Puccini realizada por su director de simfonia original, Toscanini. Only left opera of Puccini directed by the original director from the opening from1896.

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo  12 років тому +1

    @gavotter In no specific order - Enrico Caruso, Beniamino Gigli, Tito Schipa, Lauritz Melchior, Joseph Schmidt, Giovanni Martinelli, Giacomo Lauri Volpi, Richard Tauber, Mario Chamlee, Richard Crooks, Jussi Bjorling, Raoul Jobin, James Melton, Richard Tucker, Kurt Baum, Leopold Simoneau, Rudolf Schock, Ramon Vinay, Giuseppe Di Stefano, Eugene Conley, Mario Del Monaco, Nicolai Gedda, Brian Sullivan, Neil Shicoff, and Alfredo Kraus.

  • @FaustinaBordoni
    @FaustinaBordoni 11 років тому +7

    Although Mario Lanza was an exciting artist, I don't see how anyone could rank him above Jan Peerce, who was a more technically accomplished and versatile singer. Peerce had gorgeous tone, ringing high notes, great linguistic ability, and vocal agility (listen to his rendition of "Il mio tesoro" from DON GIOVANNI).

    • @rubenorta7189
      @rubenorta7189 6 років тому +1

      I think bringin Lanza in an opera conversation is foolish

    • @operadog2000
      @operadog2000 3 роки тому

      Lanza had by far the greatest tenor voice of all time.

    • @operadog2000
      @operadog2000 3 роки тому

      @@rubenorta7189 you're the fool.

    • @edwardkerrigan5356
      @edwardkerrigan5356 2 роки тому

      @@rubenorta7189 His 1949 recording of Che Gelida is one of the finest ever made - real opera singer or not.

    • @shicoff1398
      @shicoff1398 2 роки тому +1

      Polished tenor and artist .

  • @ksopranotv2940
    @ksopranotv2940 4 роки тому +1

    Bellissimi ..

  • @piesseesse
    @piesseesse 12 років тому +1

    Great emotion!

  • @GermanOperaSinger
    @GermanOperaSinger 13 років тому +3

    IMO There are sections where Toscanini should have held back more; sometimes Peerce is somewhat hard to hear over the orchestra. Other than that, this was a great performance by a quality cast, and a fantastic 'che gelida' from Peerce who never sang an unmusical note in his career. You can understand why Toscanini loved working with Peerce, he was never self indulgent like many others and always sang with the musical context, never prioritizing his own voice above the music as a whole.

  • @averygordon5334
    @averygordon5334 Рік тому

    Anyone who says Puccini was a hack has never heard this recording. A revelation!

  • @gacharose1738
    @gacharose1738 9 років тому +2

    My mother met jan peerce at a party nelly diamond held in jan s honour.

  • @GeddaBjorling
    @GeddaBjorling 13 років тому +2

    Fantastic post! It sounds like Toscanini is also singing in some place together with Jan Peerce, or is that a sound illusion.

  • @abcnowcontrol
    @abcnowcontrol 3 роки тому

    the super perfect conductor.

  • @ShawDAMAN
    @ShawDAMAN 13 років тому +2

    That was great. Albanese sounds really sweet and innocent. And I must admit one of the best live che gelida manina's I've ever heard... what a gorgeous warm 'la speranza-' I was grinning.
    Great sound too! Might I ask what audio format you dub to? .wav?

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo  13 років тому +1

    @ShawDAMAN WAV is the only format I work with; in fact it's the only type of file my pop and click removal software will accept. MP3 and WMA files to me sound worse than cassette tape.

  • @matteopagliari
    @matteopagliari 13 років тому +1

    @VinylToVideo He always sang during performances. Actually it was his habit and he did not care about the mics :)

  • @stevendavies2312
    @stevendavies2312 5 років тому

    A few bars before Che Gelida Manina you can hear Toscanini humming away to himself.

  • @jmccracken1963
    @jmccracken1963 13 років тому +1

    Thank you VERY MUCH for sharing this wonderful selection with us!!!! I have this recording on LP and on the RCA "Black and White" Toscanini edition re-release on CD. Toscanini 's and Beecham's recordings of this work are still the BEST ever done of this work (with Serafin's and Leinsdorf's stereo recordings coming in a somewhat distant second). What poetry from Peerce and Albanese, under Toscanini's expert guidance - and what impassioned and MUSICAL orchestral playing, too!!!!!

    • @allenjones3130
      @allenjones3130 Рік тому +1

      I too like the Leinsdorf recording, which stars Moffo, Tucker, Merrill, Tozzi, and last but not least, the great Mary Costa as Musetta!

  • @marie-jeannevallecalle9991
    @marie-jeannevallecalle9991 10 місяців тому

    Très grand ténor mais franco corelli reste indetronable ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️

  • @shicoff1398
    @shicoff1398 2 роки тому

    Peerce #432 Aria, good live sound 1946.

  • @ShawDAMAN
    @ShawDAMAN 13 років тому +1

    @VinylToVideo Thanks, I figured you used WAV.. I just wanted to know, since there are other so called 'lossless' formats.
    It depends on the cassette lol... but yeah, mp3's and wma are hardly the audiophile's choice... mp3 especially.

  • @BalbirSingh-gr2qk
    @BalbirSingh-gr2qk 3 роки тому

    Nice.

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo  13 років тому

    @SHICOFF1 Does the '46 "Boheme" with Roman exist in decent sound? I have a copy of it but the sound is worse than most live recordings I have from a decade earlier.

  • @jmccracken1963
    @jmccracken1963 13 років тому

    @jmccracken1963 And Jan Peerce's comments about this broadcast (as first printed in B.H. Haggin's THE TOSCANINI MUSICIANS KNEW and later re-printed in THE BLUEBIRD OF HAPPINESS - THE MEMOIRS OF JAN PEERCE, as told to Alan Levy) still hold true and ring true after all these years.

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo  13 років тому

    @jmccracken1963 I agree; those two are also the best "Bohemes" for me. I transferred the Angel "Stereo" version of the Beecham recording from LP a long time ago but haven't gotten around to editing it yet. They did a much better job on it than with the infamous "reprocessed" fake stereo recordings of many mono albums re-released the 60s.

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo  12 років тому

    I'm a bit surprised myself I forgot him.

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo  13 років тому

    @GeddaBjorling Nope, apparently Toscanini forgot or didn't care that there were recordings mics all around him.

    • @CLASSICALFAN100
      @CLASSICALFAN100 4 роки тому

      Past a certain point, **YOU'VE GOT TO NOT CARE** !! The mark of a true maestro ("ma-estro": my teacher)...

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo  12 років тому

    @gavotter I doubt my reaction was much different the first time I heard him.

  • @johnhunter1198
    @johnhunter1198 8 років тому +4

    Dick, often the rules for diction in singing don't match the rules for the spoken language. Sung French is the perfect example. There are also many rolled "R"s in German singing. Jan Peerce's sung Italian diction was so well known, that Italian singers used to work with HIM when he was at the Met. Toscanini didn't pick him just because he had good pipes.

    • @cindywu129
      @cindywu129 6 років тому

      Non potrebbe funzionare in questi tempi moderni..Il suo Italiano arrabbiato......strafalcioni incomprensibili in. Inglese..Già d’allora,i musicisti avranno dovuto avere molta pazienza.......

  • @annanoli
    @annanoli 12 років тому

    please check on YT "TOSCANINI PROVA LA BOHEME DI PUCCINI"
    that's the rehearsal for this opera. to be heard!!

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo  13 років тому

    @GermanOperaSinger The microphones were badly placed here and if it were not a live performance it perhaps have probably been worked out better. Toscanini was obviously carried away by the music; to me this is perfect and cannot be beat by any other recording.

  • @valdengo1
    @valdengo1 12 років тому

    ...first heard this in 1963----the print credits should have read, sung by Jan Peerce and Arturo Toscanini, Frank Valentino, etc

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo  11 років тому +1

    That would be you.

  • @jbdavis7695
    @jbdavis7695 7 років тому

    THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DICTION AND PRONUNCIATION. LANZA'S DICTION WAS THE BEST, SO MUCH SO THAT YOU COULD UNDERSTAND EVERY MISTAKE, IN PRONUNCIATION THAT HE MADE. THE EARLY BJOERLING RECORDINGS WERE MADE BEFORE HE SANG ANYPLACE BUT SWEDEN, EXCEPT WHEN HE WAS A CHILD. i NEVER CARED FOR PEERCE'S SOUND BUT NO ONE CAN DENY HE WAS A GREAT SINGER WITH CLEAR DICTION AND GOOD PRONUNCIATION.

  • @TheSpadey139
    @TheSpadey139 6 років тому

    Am I the only person who hears Toscanini humming along throughout the recording?

    • @sgnmath1234
      @sgnmath1234 4 роки тому +1

      You and 456,765,933 other people

    • @shicoff1398
      @shicoff1398 2 роки тому

      Yes he at the time didn't think about being heard on a record of it, but I love it!

  • @iduefoscari
    @iduefoscari 12 років тому

    @VinylToVideo I will give you another tenor who I reckon could sing abit. and at 88 still can. I think his name is Carlo Bergonzi.

  • @opera888able
    @opera888able 6 років тому

    Historic performance by all involved, but it sounds a bit rushed in places. Other versions are a bit more 'laid back'.

  • @valdengo1
    @valdengo1 11 років тому

    I was for Lanza for 40 years, but now....Flagstad as the greatest singer on the century, what heavenly unlimited sound, even at 55 with Furtwangler in 1950 singing Strauss Four Last Songs......nothing ever forced and a matchless cloud of heavenly sound....this does not take away the greatness of Lanza

  • @01jocooper
    @01jocooper 11 років тому

    There's also an element of fitting into the time constraints of an LP.

  • @sideroadgold
    @sideroadgold 12 років тому +2

    excellent--TOSCANINI best of the best. My choice for voice of the century: Mario Lanza-- magnificent instrument from God.

  • @richardholmesmusic2128
    @richardholmesmusic2128 4 роки тому

    Well, actually, I DO, and have sung with considerable success over 40 years or so. My comments may have been a bit dyspeptic, and for that I’m sorry. But honestly, did that give you permission to denigrate my life’s work...when you don’t even know me?

  • @christopherhosford7805
    @christopherhosford7805 4 роки тому +2

    A much under rated singer, better than Tucker in my opinion. Different repertoire, but a much better musician. Who's the guy who should have a statue outside the Met? I vote for Peerce.

    • @kenwasser6186
      @kenwasser6186 3 роки тому

      I agree. In a class by himself. Imagine if he were singing today. The world would be at his feet.

    • @matthewpeerce9389
      @matthewpeerce9389 3 роки тому

      @@kenwasser6186 I agree. Beautiful singer. Nice man.

    • @edwardkerrigan5356
      @edwardkerrigan5356 2 роки тому

      Hosford: I always preferred him to Tucker. The voice was allegedly smaller than Tucker's, but Peerce's tone was far fuller and much more consistent in quality. In fact few singers demonstrate such a solid and consistent tone quality throughout their whole range. Also Peerce's negotiation of the passagio was virtually seamless.

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo  11 років тому

    I think it was more to do with the fitting into the time constraints of the broadcast.

  • @KANIODF
    @KANIODF 12 років тому

    DE HECHO JAMES LEVINE TIENDE HACER LO MISMO QUE EL GRAN TOSCANINI

  • @yankylichtman4473
    @yankylichtman4473 3 роки тому

    I met Tuscanne once............
    In my dreams

  • @dickdrewes4084
    @dickdrewes4084 10 років тому +1

    Great voice, pity his Italian sucks...."AmoRRRe"

    • @VinylToVideo
      @VinylToVideo  10 років тому

      According to who? There's no one way to pronounce Italian. Toscanini thought he must have had Italian in his family tree!

    • @dickdrewes4084
      @dickdrewes4084 10 років тому

      VinylToVideo If you can't hear that America RRRRRR in the very first phrase "io RRRResto......"you must be deaf, and there are only two ways to sing R in Italian, the non explosive one with the very tip of the tongue and the rolled "double" R

    • @VinylToVideo
      @VinylToVideo  10 років тому

      Dick Drewes
      It's nothing to complain about. You're listening to a non-Italian singing in Italian. What else could you possibly expect? Don't care for it then don't listen, it's quite simple. Toscanini's opinion means a hell of a lot more than yours.

    • @matthewrosenthal4673
      @matthewrosenthal4673 8 років тому +1

      It's called bel canto. Not bel diction.

    • @mmaccheccazzo
      @mmaccheccazzo 7 років тому

      His italian is very good, but obviously he is not italian so to it might sound weird

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo  12 років тому

    Definitely not SINGER of the century though.

  • @OscarLevant1
    @OscarLevant1 10 років тому +5

    Toscanini at this stage of life is highly over-rated out of reverence to his youth. By this time he had lost almost all of his upper frequency hearing. His tempi were often exaggerated and non-vocal. Peerce sounds fine here, though rushed. Complaints about his Italian pronunciation are silly.

    • @LordMgls
      @LordMgls 9 років тому +1

      +Joseph Shore That is an interesting remark about Toscanini. Compared to nowadays standards, this recording's tempi are clearly fast and often seem "non vocal" as you say. But it still makes me wonder whether this was the *original* way they used to do Bohème; the way Puccini listened and imagined it. Yes, this reading of the score seems different and "non vocal"; but who said there is only one right way to do it? Who says Bohème is supposed to be that much vocal as opposed to theatrical? Second thoughts--this may actually feel more movie-like than more typical renditions. I like this particular version but I get your point.

    • @matthewrosenthal4673
      @matthewrosenthal4673 8 років тому +3

      Muscle memory would have allowed him to conduct even if he was completely deaf.

    • @robertaterchinocentini3361
      @robertaterchinocentini3361 5 років тому

      I don't think that the tempi are too fast.. it is weird that you could know more than him who worked side by side with Puccini!!!! about the pronunciation... Toscanini was right!!!! you don't seem to be Italian. I am and "Cecar" and " Facio" is not Italian, even if his pronunciation in general is very good

    • @CLASSICALFAN100
      @CLASSICALFAN100 4 роки тому

      @@matthewrosenthal4673 Yep, muscle memory is so very important. "Just ask Arnold": ua-cam.com/video/Tq1r6FiBfrE/v-deo.html

    • @vincentcastagnacci4414
      @vincentcastagnacci4414 3 роки тому +1

      Non vocal tempi?? As absurd as the rest of your commentary.

  • @richardholmesmusic2128
    @richardholmesmusic2128 7 років тому

    Two comments after re-listening to this set tonight. 1) The conducting is strong, but often absurd. The singers are hustled through the score as if Tsocanini had to make a bus to Riverdale. And then, in some places, such as the end of the first Act, Toscanini will settle down and conduct like a human being. Much of the rest of the performance is sad. I cannot believe that Puccini would have countenanced it, and I do not believe this is the way Toscanini conducted the premiere. 2) The Italian on this set is often poor, and makes for painful listening. However, Peerce is not by far the worst offender. Valentino as Marcello (and he was NOT Italian by any means) is dreadful in this respect, as he has horrible diphthongs and closes most of his final "e"s (unaccented final e's in Italian are always open), so we get a lot of "pingeray", etc. Cehanovsky was a lovely man, but a very mediocre singer, and HIS Italian is all wrong, filled with Russian "L" and wrong vowels. Peerce's was nowhere near as good as he claimed in his autobiography, but it is clear and usually correct.

    • @CLASSICALFAN100
      @CLASSICALFAN100 4 роки тому +2

      "Those who can, do; those who can't, criticize..."

  • @brithgob1620
    @brithgob1620 4 роки тому

    Never cared for Puccini. Sugar lumps with honey. Yuk!