Camera Mirror Lenses Part 1: Visual and Interferometric Testing

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  • @GuagoFruit
    @GuagoFruit 2 роки тому +221

    Optics is one of the most taken for granted technologies in humanity. Love seeing it explained in detail.

  • @chopper3lw
    @chopper3lw 2 роки тому +277

    Your explanations are wonderful. I had a realtime holographic interferometry project in the 80's and as a software engineer I was very much out of my field, but I've always enjoyed optics since. Your channel covers interesting aspects without getting too deep in the weeds. Thanks

    • @pcaridad
      @pcaridad 2 роки тому +2

      Agree

    • @jannejohansson3383
      @jannejohansson3383 2 роки тому

      Yep, enough deep to get new info and understanding, but not brain surgery..

  • @nuffsaid0
    @nuffsaid0 2 роки тому +76

    One of the absolutely excellent channels on youtube. Pure gem.

  • @skelingtonrick
    @skelingtonrick 2 роки тому +85

    I really appreciate your casual total mastery of the subject of optics. it makes your explanations very clear and easy to follow

  • @nweston5070
    @nweston5070 2 роки тому +47

    Masterful understatement of the difficulty of doing those interferometric tests!

    • @HuygensOptics
      @HuygensOptics  2 роки тому +18

      Yes that is why I put a warning in the video: it looks simple but in practice it is really quite difficult to do correctly.

  • @colinbrown7947
    @colinbrown7947 2 роки тому +25

    Just wanna say this channel inspired me to major in optical engineering at my college! We are one of the few universities in the US with a dedicated optics program, and I'm blessed to have it in-state

  • @OccultDemonCassette
    @OccultDemonCassette 2 роки тому +11

    Oh man, improving vintage photographic lenses is 1000% in my interests. This is the kind of content that I've been dreaming about! Can't wait for part 2!

  • @hrtlsbstrd
    @hrtlsbstrd 2 роки тому +33

    A tremendous transfer of knowledge for interested amateurs as usual. Thanks so much for putting your expertise out here for us to enjoy!

  • @thethirdman225
    @thethirdman225 2 роки тому +14

    This is terrific. You get so many self-appointed lens experts that it's really refreshing when someone actually demonstrates and explains what's really going on. As someone who has had to test lenses as part of my job (I spent three decades in film, television and photographic industries), I'm aware of how misleading some of the comments online can be. I'm really looking forward to seeing how these turn out.

  • @GoldSrc_
    @GoldSrc_ 2 роки тому +9

    This is the type of content that youtube should be promoting more.

    • @HuygensOptics
      @HuygensOptics  2 роки тому +5

      Gordon! It is probably Half a Life time ago since we last met!

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    @Nickle314 2 роки тому +7

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  • @AppliedCryogenics
    @AppliedCryogenics 2 роки тому +15

    Another magnificent episode! Apparently, I'm strangely excited about non-monolithic reflecting lenses also. Thanks for broadening my horizons. Looking forward to next ep.

  • @Pesc0-conti
    @Pesc0-conti 2 роки тому +7

    This channel is literally a goldmine of knowledge. Thank you so much for all the effort you put into making these videos. You're awesome

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    @mceajc 2 роки тому +2

    Every video you produce astonishes me with your knowledge, passion, humour and clarity. Always appreciated!

  • @rolandrick
    @rolandrick 2 роки тому +5

    Wow 🤩! Can’t wait for part two. I once studied mechanical engineering, because it’s interdisciplinary covering kinda all fields of natural sciences, qualifies you to put the things together, understanding the big picture as good as possible. Watching this channel, I realise we were back then deprived of the most interesting one, optics. My brain literally sucks in each world like a sponge. To me, this is the most interesting channel on UA-cam.

  • @JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
    @JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 2 роки тому +8

    Surprisingly accessible video, having in mind the complex concepts involved. Very interesting to watch. Looking forward to Part 2 🙂

  • @OrionFyre
    @OrionFyre 2 роки тому +1

    Jeroen, I just want to say I always get giddy whenever I see a new video from you. Your explanation of the physics and science in application is always impressive. I appreciate all the time and effort you put into your productions and the sharing of your expertise and experience.

  • @kudui21
    @kudui21 2 роки тому +3

    This has been a treat. Can't wait to see future episodes of this series.

  • @blablabliam
    @blablabliam 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent description of Strehl. Too many people think that that is the only number that matters in a telescope, and will flip out over very minor differences from one to the next. As you say, in optical design there must be compromise, and Strehl is only one of many parameters deciding the usefulness of the optics. Love these videos!

  • @AdmiralSym
    @AdmiralSym 2 роки тому +56

    I have three mirror lenses and I turned my Tamron 500mm f/8 into a tabletop telescope by removing the infinity focus stop and attaching a prism diagonal. Works great and is extremely portable

    • @AdmiralSym
      @AdmiralSym 2 роки тому +5

      I could talk about mirror lenses all day!

    • @randallstewart175
      @randallstewart175 2 роки тому +5

      Tamron sold a very high quality right angle prism/eyepiece with magnifier to attach to the mirror lens in lieu of a camera. There is also a doubler to increase the telephoto focal length at a modest cost of reduced performance (which should not matter if using the lens as a telescope). These accessories connect with the Tamron proprietary Adaptall II interface, so are not usable with non-Adaptall mount lenses. I've intended to use this combo to watch an eclippse, but so far I forget to set up fot it.

    • @mal2ksc
      @mal2ksc 2 роки тому +3

      @@randallstewart175 Just remember you lose two stops when you insert a doubler. In terms of light-gathering capability, you have an f/16 lens.

    • @AdmiralSym
      @AdmiralSym 2 роки тому +3

      @@randallstewart175 I’ve seen the “02F” come up in my research but they’re pretty hard to find! I see one on eBay with with a starting bid of $50! I wonder if i can make something like this myself using surplus binoculars prism optics

    • @randallstewart175
      @randallstewart175 2 роки тому +2

      @@AdmiralSym Tamron made an Adaptall II doubler, 6 element, fairly high quality, which fits all of those lenses, the 01F. This is quite common and cheap, commonly in the range of $20 - 40. They also made a model 200F, also a 6 element doubler with ED type glass, which is very high quality and gives a much better optical performance than the 01F. It is very rare and fairly expensive as doublers go. It does not fit most Adaptall lenses except for prime and zoom telephotos. If a 500mm mirror lens is used as a telescope, either doubler will fit, but the optical advantage of the 200F will mean little or nothing because it's improvements show in the edges and corners of a photo image format, probably outside the visual area of a telescope usage, and the human eye' would probably not see the difference anyway.

  • @ARVash
    @ARVash 2 роки тому +2

    Every single video you make is hugely eye opening! Thank you so much for all your contributions to global freely available knowledge.

  • @smellslikeupdog80
    @smellslikeupdog80 2 роки тому +1

    there is so much information in each video's brief overview I deeply enjoy a dive into a feild I wouldn't otherwise be exposed to

  • @peterschrauth90
    @peterschrauth90 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for bringing back memories of my FIRST 35mm film camera, a Vivitar SLR with 1.8f ~50mm lens, circa 1968. 😊

  • @TheHouseBlog
    @TheHouseBlog 2 роки тому +2

    I really appreciate the effort you put into your video content overall, it's top notch. The pacing of your videos and the quality and readability of your graphics really stand out.

  • @klx6265
    @klx6265 2 роки тому +21

    Really grateful to you for providing me with knowledge free from any ideas of profit. There's a certain purity to enjoying knowledge handed down this way, that evokes a child like wonder in the mind.
    I am in no way connected to the field of optics, but I love watching your videos for the sheer education they provide.
    Thank you sir!
    God bless! :)

  • @kingpoopra6084
    @kingpoopra6084 7 місяців тому

    By far, the most entertaining documentary I've watched in years!

  • @AlejandroMironov
    @AlejandroMironov 2 роки тому +2

    Absolutely fascinating! Your delivery of information and knowledge is absolutely on point. Can’t wait for the next part!

  • @markfallu2389
    @markfallu2389 2 роки тому +1

    I really appreciate the "clarity" of your explanations (no pun intended)

  • @GregCoonrod
    @GregCoonrod 2 роки тому +2

    I don't know anything about optics but your explanations are very accessible and entertaining! I look forward to seeing how much you're able to improve those lenses.

  • @goranjosic
    @goranjosic 2 роки тому +2

    Can't wait for the next video! Surprisingly interesting! As usual on this channel!

  • @davidjoelsen3399
    @davidjoelsen3399 2 роки тому

    It is a true pleasure to listen to all the information you present - never knew that optics were one of my favorite subjects.

  • @jim5148
    @jim5148 2 роки тому +1

    I've always been fascinated with optics, and I thoroughly enjoy your videos. I can hardly wait for the next one. Thanks!

  • @LiyangHU
    @LiyangHU 2 роки тому +4

    6:21 Your pronunciation of boke / 暈け is spot-on; your Dutch accent actually helps. :) It's of Japanese origin and just means _blur, haze, fade, … & c._

    • @bjnslc
      @bjnslc 2 роки тому +1

      In its "before the web use", the word specifically meant aesthetic quality of that blur. Donuts are tasty, but make for very bad bokeh.

  • @woodymeow2330
    @woodymeow2330 2 роки тому +1

    Your videos are the most informative videos about optics I've seen

  • @davidwillmore
    @davidwillmore 2 роки тому +2

    Your pronunciation was perfect, sir. Nothing to apologize for!

  • @isoslow
    @isoslow 2 роки тому +17

    This is content out of pure gold. Very good and interesting. And I can't wait to see part 2.

  • @aclearlight
    @aclearlight 2 роки тому +1

    A very efficient, lovely intro class in practical optics, thank you SO much! Looking forward now to part 2!

  • @jmannUSMC
    @jmannUSMC 2 роки тому

    This channel always scratches that itch for knowledge. I know nothing of optics really but oh boy do I love learning new stuff about it.

  • @michaelseitz8938
    @michaelseitz8938 2 роки тому +2

    Damn, this video is such a teaser! I can't wait to see the results of your repairs 😁

  • @Jimmymcjimthejim
    @Jimmymcjimthejim 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent detail and presentation. Thank you!

  • @Veptis
    @Veptis Рік тому

    Thank you for bringing this highly technical content and explaining it really well.

  • @LaViejaConsolada
    @LaViejaConsolada 2 роки тому +2

    If only I could have someone like you at my disposal to teach me stuff... Fantastic video!

  • @xavierdemers-bouchard2747
    @xavierdemers-bouchard2747 2 роки тому +1

    Can't wait for the next video! This is so interesting but I think this has something to do with your approach. I would listen to you for hours. Such a great balance in taking us along and explaining what's going on in a way that doesn't make me feel like I'm being talked down to. My hat to you sir.

  • @mrcpu9999
    @mrcpu9999 Рік тому

    I get that this is a super complicated field. But your explanations continually help me understand this way better than I ever thought I would. Good stuff.

  • @gyrogearloose1345
    @gyrogearloose1345 2 роки тому +2

    Very interesting . . . thank you for sharing your knowledge. Looking forward to Part 2 and more. Great to see Tommy Cooper at 4:57 !

  • @4dirt2racer0
    @4dirt2racer0 2 роки тому +3

    idk anything about optics n im especially no photographer, but u still make these videos interesting somehow, im genuinely excited for part 2 to come out u do awesome videos man thanks, its nice having worthwhile stuff to watch

    • @HuygensOptics
      @HuygensOptics  2 роки тому +1

      Part 2 is already out, but somehow not really promoted by UA-cam:
      ua-cam.com/video/1AzQ4y_qwrM/v-deo.html

    • @4dirt2racer0
      @4dirt2racer0 2 роки тому

      @@HuygensOptics hmm that's strange..I even specifically searched for it on ur channels page.. would it help if I mentioned something to UA-cam about not being able to find it? Btw thanks for the reply n bringin part 2 to my attention

  • @d37tae
    @d37tae 2 роки тому

    Super excited about this series! I love the idea of measuring and fixing off-the-shelf and old optics.

  • @bansci
    @bansci 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing video, thoroughly enjoyed the technical detail, humour, concise focus on the topic, and thread of the story! Something to aspire to

  • @glentyan2505
    @glentyan2505 2 роки тому +13

    Excellent Video as usual. Speaking as an Astrophotographer I can say without question of doubt that imaging a field of stars places the most difficult test of any optics as stars contain wavelengths from UV to IR and as the stars are round recreating this faithfully on Film, CCD or a CMOS colour device is extremely difficult and very expensive. This is due to the need to focus all wavelengths to the same spot equally regardless of wavelength to retain roundness and point spread function (PSF) across the field. Every single type of aberration you can think of may show up in even the most expensive of optics. For mirror optics the percentage of obstruction should be low for planets to retain the detail and as the field of view increases so does the obstruction ratio but nebulae and star field images are not affected by this. However using a big chipped camera with a low obstruction ratio will result in unacceptable light fall off from the centre of the optical axis. So, if you want a quick way to test optics ...... try pointing them at the stars as many of these errors are not readily noticed on terrestrial images.

    • @iestynne
      @iestynne 2 роки тому

      Is using a filter to narrow the light spectrum a viable approach?

    • @glentyan2505
      @glentyan2505 2 роки тому

      @@iestynne For what purpose?

    • @iestynne
      @iestynne 2 роки тому

      So you only need to deal with monochromatic light

    • @glentyan2505
      @glentyan2505 2 роки тому

      ​@@iestynne I take we are talking about Astrophotography and the answer is yes however that answer could be an hours long video in itself. When dealing with monochromatic light we get smaller tighter stars due to the better control of LCA (longitudinal Chromatic Aberration) assuming of course focus is perfect. The main filters we use are Red, Green, Blue, H-Alpha which is at 656nm a deep Red and is Ionized Hydrogen, O111 (Oxygen 111) , and S11 (Sulfur-11). We also use a Luminance filter which is clear. The Ha, O111 & S11 are classed as Narrowband filters and these colours when mapped give a different palette the most popular being the Hubble Palette which blue and Yellow resulting images. As I said the topic is vast, just hope I've answered the right question. 🙂

  • @MisakaMikotoDesu
    @MisakaMikotoDesu 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for tying physics into photography. Both are super interesting, and having them combined is good stuff. Your video are great!

  • @antoncronet6104
    @antoncronet6104 2 роки тому +1

    I know very little in the field of optics, but i really enjoy the content and find it is always perfectly explained

  • @simonstergaard
    @simonstergaard 2 роки тому +2

    Thankyou for always de-mystifying optics. Cant wait for part 2 !!!!

  • @parranoic
    @parranoic 2 роки тому

    Stuff I wish I learned in my physics class. You managed to keep my attention through the full 21 minutes, great job

  • @TheMeccio
    @TheMeccio 2 роки тому

    This is literally a pure diamond of content inside youtube. Very well done!

  • @AlanW
    @AlanW 2 роки тому +1

    I am unreasonably excited for the promised follow up.

  • @Petars24
    @Petars24 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing work, I appreciate your depth and breath of knowledge on this subject. I look forward to the next video, regarding the possible upgrade of the mirror lens.

  • @jeromejooste3493
    @jeromejooste3493 2 роки тому +1

    Great explanation and video. Can't wait to see how you tackle the refiguring of the optics.

  • @PixelSchnitzel
    @PixelSchnitzel 2 роки тому +2

    I absolutely love this channel. Optics are well outside my abilities, but your explanations make a lot of sense and inspire me to continue learning and to experiment on my own. Thanks!!!

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    @qwerty123443wifi 2 роки тому +1

    this is exactly the kind of niche but extremely interested stuff that I'm in to! Love this channel, thanks for your work :)

  • @allenmaudiln
    @allenmaudiln 2 роки тому +1

    This was such a fascinating video! I’m really looking forward to the next one.

  • @csours
    @csours 2 роки тому +2

    A day that Huygens uploads is a beautiful day.

  • @CanyonWanderer
    @CanyonWanderer 2 роки тому +3

    What a great explanation! Those optical setups remind me of my graduation project which involved optical rails, an IR laser diode an .95 Aperture lens (still fascinated by how that was possible), a 3D object and a special sensor (the actual subject of my project). The other part of the project was making software to read out the sensor. After 6 years of studying Applied Physics and graduating, I turned to become a software developer for the rest of my life 🙂Still fascinated by anything related to physics / optics of course.
    By coincidence, 20 years ago, I got married 700 meters from my house in Hofwijck, former residence of the Huygens' brothers 🙂

  • @lumotroph
    @lumotroph 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant to watch as always. Thank you 😊 looking forward to the next part!

  • @AdamvanAlderwerelt
    @AdamvanAlderwerelt 2 роки тому

    I have no idea how I got here, but this video was really cool. This was so educational and I really appreciate the work you put into these videos.

  • @sean_vikoren
    @sean_vikoren 2 роки тому +1

    An absolute delight hanging out in your lab, as always.

  • @realcygnus
    @realcygnus 2 роки тому +1

    Superb as always ! Optics is arguably one of our most useful discoveries. We probably wouldn't even know about bacteria or galaxies for instance otherwise.

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    @blooregart Рік тому

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    I found my new fav channel! Just so happy i found your videos!!

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    @n1352-m1i 2 роки тому +1

    clear, focused and to the point : thank you for this pretty sharp video !

  • @ЭтоДрючинский
    @ЭтоДрючинский 2 роки тому +2

    Oh, and here you've triggered me to dive in optics once again... What a wicked trick!

  • @nabintimalsina5628
    @nabintimalsina5628 8 місяців тому +1

    I like watching your videos on Optics. You describe things very well.

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    @n3r0z3r0 2 роки тому

    One of the most underrated channel

  • @kevinocta9716
    @kevinocta9716 2 роки тому +1

    Oh this is awesome! I had looked for a video like this for years about how exactly people test telescope mirrors and what the different numbers mean etc with little success. I found some very scholarly articles that went far above my head with almost no visual representation so they were extra hard to understand without a background in optics. Thanks!
    Side story:
    I had to clean my telescope mirror for the first time. Overall it was really easy, but when I put everything back together I could not get it collimated for the life of me. Turns out it was that mechanical stress you talked about, only my diffraction patterns (or in my case just defocused patters) didn't show up like most people showed, which made it take forever to figure out. The real reason was that only one of my mirror holder clamps was really putting any stress on the mirror, so the astigmatism was very asymmetrical not matching the 120 degree astigmatism you showed here. If I had seen this video first, I bet I would have saved hours!

  • @carlswenson5403
    @carlswenson5403 2 роки тому +2

    Consistently some of the best content on yt

  • @4n2earth22
    @4n2earth22 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent presentation; highly informative. Looking forward to the next vid!

  • @Sigmatechnica
    @Sigmatechnica 2 роки тому +1

    Facinating! Looking forward to the next installment!

  • @jasperdegrood
    @jasperdegrood 2 роки тому

    Weer een top video! Geweldige uitleg, ik krijg bijna t idee dat ik het snap! Prachtig hoe je deze lastige materie goed en met humor uitlegt.

  • @manufranc0
    @manufranc0 2 роки тому +1

    wow ! I was not expecting such a video! thank you for this ! subscribed!

  • @TheBauwssss
    @TheBauwssss 2 роки тому

    Dude... this is incredible!! I don't think I have ever learned so much form one of your videos before, and I always took the subject of optics to be boring and overloaded in incredibly complicated and horrendously difficult math equations, and while that last one may be at least partially true, I never thought this subject could be this incredibly interesting and fun to follow along with, trying to form at least a very basic understanding of the math and the inner workings of this endlessly captivating lens design, and your interesting interferometry based performance evaluation lens testing procedure. Thank you for making this video, dawg!! Ik heb er zeer van genoten! Nog een heel fijn weekend toegewenst!! Mijn dank is groot maat! Kudos!!! 👍👍👍🤓

    • @TheBauwssss
      @TheBauwssss 2 роки тому

      Dit was echt puur genieten!! 😁😁👍

  • @don_marcel
    @don_marcel 2 роки тому +2

    OMG can't wait for the rest of this series :)

  • @nomen_omen
    @nomen_omen 2 роки тому +2

    i cant wait for the next episode!!!

  • @photography_night_school
    @photography_night_school 2 роки тому +2

    My favorite channel) Thank you for your knowledge!

  • @lartsevevgenii6640
    @lartsevevgenii6640 Рік тому

    Absolutely amazing source of pure knowledge! Thank you so much!

  • @joshuam511
    @joshuam511 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. Really looking forward to part 2 :D

  • @testing2517
    @testing2517 2 роки тому +2

    Excited for part 2!!!

  • @WhiteVaille
    @WhiteVaille 2 роки тому

    This looks so fun to tinker with. Thank you for sharing your "toys" and this journey with us!!

  • @themrworf1701
    @themrworf1701 2 роки тому +1

    Just amazing! Can't wait for the next video :)

  • @jgurtz
    @jgurtz 2 роки тому

    Wonderful video! Really enjoyed the introduction to interferometry and look forward to the next part.

  • @anga6275
    @anga6275 2 роки тому +1

    this is a great channel. i don't know anything about optics but this encourages me to learn. cheers!

  • @michielbuse4386
    @michielbuse4386 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for giving us these great explanations to educate us!

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome !! I can not wait...cheers.

  • @sebaschtl9710
    @sebaschtl9710 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for sharing you knowlege. I enjoy your professional explaining so much.

  • @kilimnik1983
    @kilimnik1983 2 роки тому

    As one who works in the optics lab and does exactly same tests , I really appreciate your work.

  • @sjoer
    @sjoer 2 роки тому

    Ik verbaas me toch steeds weer over uw kennis and ik deze videos bekijk!

  • @AnaloguePhoto
    @AnaloguePhoto 2 роки тому +1

    Great video! It went by like it was only 3 minutes long. Afterwards I had a look at the date it was posted, hoping it would be a few months since... I had hoped to see the follow-up video right away.
    Suppose I'll just have to wait. And I'm really looking forward to that coming video.
    Thanks Jeroen!

  • @luke.perkin.online
    @luke.perkin.online 2 роки тому +1

    Another great video, looking forward to seeing the repairs!

  • @xs6819
    @xs6819 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Jeroen
    Thanks for posting these videos they are awesome.

  • @OnnieKoski
    @OnnieKoski 2 роки тому +1

    Great video! I can't wait until part 2!!

  • @tikkafoxer
    @tikkafoxer 2 роки тому

    Zeer wetenschappelijk en goed onderbouwd, u heeft goede kennis van optica.
    Ik ga wat meer video's van u bekijken, chapeau 👍🏼