Crumar Vs Hammond XK5

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  • Опубліковано 12 сер 2023
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  • @jakolbfleisch
    @jakolbfleisch 4 місяці тому +5

    I’m shocked how much more digital the Hammond sounds. Both the tone and the overdrive sounds way more organic on the Crumar to my ear.

  • @clubbell
    @clubbell 10 місяців тому +12

    Great review!
    The Crumar sounds amazing! Very natural and full sound. Would be nice to hear a comparison with a Nord.

  • @GrumIsMe
    @GrumIsMe 10 місяців тому +1

    I could see tweaking either one into a very enjoyable sound - thanks for the comparison!

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  10 місяців тому

      Agreed. Thanks for watching

  • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
    @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 8 місяців тому +5

    If you want a real bargain, or ultra portability, be aware that the VB3 software powers the Crumar Mojo organ.
    It's available for Windows at Mac, and also available for iOS for just $15. Even runs on an iPhone!

    • @SLHkeyboards
      @SLHkeyboards 5 місяців тому +1

      the $15 version (VB3m) does not give you the Mojo organ sound, but "VB3-II 2023 Edition" does (available for iPad but not iPhone)

    • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
      @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 5 місяців тому

      @@SLHkeyboards I think it's similar to 1.4
      Other rockers like me say the 1.something editions sound better for rock organ, but I hear the new version from late 2023 brings back the 1.something organ sound for those of us that prefer it.

  • @nicklisac4667
    @nicklisac4667 10 місяців тому +2

    I loved this video. I own a Mojo 61so your review was really appreciated.
    I wonder how it would have compared to your C3.
    The XK-5 is a Hammond keyboard, no doubt the best that money can buy, but it's still a digital clone of the electromechanical tonewheel generator of yesteryear which is what all clones are trying to emulate so in a way it was comparing one clone to another.
    This is just an observation and in NOT NOT NOT a criticism.
    You do a hell of a lot for us viewers. We just sit back and take it all in.
    It's so easy for us to be critical when most of us, myself included, don't experience the time, effort and frustration you more than likely go through creating these videos.💯
    I guess it would have been much more difficult to set up a fair comparison with the vintage beast.
    Thankyou so much for all the trouble and effort it takes to put this content together.
    👍👍👍👍

  • @JetBucksley
    @JetBucksley 10 місяців тому +7

    After years with Korg Kronos workstation-ish organ and also having a Hammond SK1 for a while I got myself the Crumar Mojo 61. Never been happier with my organ sound.

    • @tonyr.4778
      @tonyr.4778 10 місяців тому

      Same here.

    • @danielmerriman3856
      @danielmerriman3856 10 місяців тому +3

      To my ear, all of the Hammond SKs and XKs have a certain ‘artificial’ (LOL) quality that irritates me. The Mojo seems to nail the tone better and the overall effect is more authentic - IMO

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  10 місяців тому

      Great!

    • @davidjacques768
      @davidjacques768 9 місяців тому

      Agreed

  • @dickhindmanpiano302
    @dickhindmanpiano302 6 місяців тому +1

    @ 8:04 you have them sounding more similar. Slightly more clear, transparent sound in the XK-5 but for rock either would do.

  • @Reto7219
    @Reto7219 5 місяців тому +1

    Can i see there is some Gain on the Overdrive of the XK-5? For me it sounds the XK-5 make some Distorted Overtones.
    And im sure both Organs have different Preamp Presets. But Anyway...i like the Mojo 61. Many thanks for this Video!

  • @crazypainter56
    @crazypainter56 9 місяців тому +1

    I have the dual manual Mojo =bought a EH Lizard queen and hooked it to the Mojo ---it rocks also use the Lounsberry pedals-------- loud and fat

  • @markr8326
    @markr8326 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi Nick, can you tell me please do the 2 sets of drawbars (like on the XK5) on the upper & lower manuals enable you to 'split' the manuals /have 2 settings per manual ?
    I got the Crumar Mojo 2 x manual but I can see that you can split either manual.
    Was wondering how you comp & play walking bass with lower manual, leaving you to have the Percussion set on the top manual (?)

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  3 місяці тому

      On the XK-5 there are 2 sets of drawbars per manual and you can switch between then using the inverse keys to jump-to a new drawbar setting quickly. You can definitely split the XK5 when its in single manual form but you know, I've never tried to do it in dual manual form as its physically split. I'll have a look but my money is on yes you can do it, but I've never tried!

  • @MegaCraptacular
    @MegaCraptacular 3 місяці тому

    Guido Scognamilio is the designer of the Mojo and was very particular in designing the modeling for the Mojo. As you can tell, he did a remarkable job.

  • @B3-R
    @B3-R 10 місяців тому +1

    Nick, thanks for your presentation, wanted to tell to you that there is also an interesting review done by Tony Monaco with his own A-100 compared to the Mojo organ that he own too.

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  10 місяців тому

      I will check it out

    • @standominguez8172
      @standominguez8172 6 місяців тому

      I've seen that comparison. Very good comparison.

  • @cemorse01
    @cemorse01 10 місяців тому +2

    Which model/variation is your XK-5 emulating? On the Crumar (assume the 61 is running the same engine as the Mojo suitcase) you can select from a pretty wide range of models & ages. Some of the sonic differences between the two in the video could easily be due to emulating different models.

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  10 місяців тому

      I'll take a look, I think its firmly set to C3/122

    • @cemorse01
      @cemorse01 10 місяців тому

      @@nickfoleyuk - switching the various emulations (on Mojo at least) has to be done via the web interface. Not adjustable from the front panel.

  • @vanessajazp6341
    @vanessajazp6341 10 місяців тому +2

    I just tried out a Hammond XK4, which has the same engine and key touch as the XK5. I loved the sound, but the Leslie emulation was terrible. It's a mono effect that sounds almost more like a tremolo than a Leslie. My YC61 has a better rotary speaker emulation.
    Would love to get my hands on a Crumar, though!

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  10 місяців тому

      Yup, its a bit of a beast

  • @pianomikeoct
    @pianomikeoct 6 місяців тому +1

    I have a small 61 key xk-1c Hammond and the Crumar Mojo, they both sound different, the hammond is a more refined sound and the Mojo is a strong more full bodied sound with not as much detail as the hammond, but I think they both sound great.

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  5 місяців тому

      I enjoyed the Crumar I have to say

  • @maurodonnini928
    @maurodonnini928 3 місяці тому

    Non so se atraverso il Sw è possibile cambiare il tono del distorsore. Sentito così mi sembra imparagonabile. Forse occorre alzare un po le alte frequenze sul MOJO.

  • @Blues.Fusion
    @Blues.Fusion 10 місяців тому +4

    I think the xk5 is intended to be ran through a real 122 which smooths out the sound.
    The mojo assumes you'll be using the leslie sim so the sound is idealized a little more and some of the warts like frequency spikes are trimmed back.

    • @marcoballa
      @marcoballa 10 місяців тому +6

      Also... the Mojo has 20 different tonewheel generators.
      Some of them are more "clear", some are "dark" 😂
      Leslie sim can sound more "open", depending on different settings...

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  10 місяців тому

      @@marcoballa Interesting stuff!

    • @marcoballa
      @marcoballa 10 місяців тому +1

      Just as example 🤗
      (Same generator of the Mojo61)
      ua-cam.com/video/8Fod5PIAbiU/v-deo.html

  • @danieldion8825
    @danieldion8825 5 місяців тому

    I would pick the Mojo, thanks for the video!

  • @fabiomontagnolahammond78
    @fabiomontagnolahammond78 10 місяців тому +3

    very interesting video. saturation is conceived differently, on xk5 it is tube, on crumar it is a simulation. otherwise crumar mojo seems superior to me, with a warmer sound.

  • @user-sy6ch2fy7e
    @user-sy6ch2fy7e 5 місяців тому

    Is it possible to hook the Crumar up to a pair of yamaha HS8 studio monitors for playing at home? Also is Crumar reliable ?

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  4 місяці тому

      I'm sure it is, via a small mixer perhaps. I've not had a Crumar for long enough to comment on its reliability I'm afraid

  • @davidjacques768
    @davidjacques768 9 місяців тому +2

    I am surprised that you did not A/B the chorus vibrato. The Mojo would have buried the XK5 on that comparison.

  • @JONBRION22
    @JONBRION22 10 місяців тому +9

    To my ears the Crumar has "THE SOUND" and the xk5 5 sounds too clean . Almost Farfisa like . The Crumar could use more Bass on the overdrive . Crumar Leslie definitely wins .

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  10 місяців тому +1

      Interesting. I think the Crumar stars of sounding better and thicker and then the fast leslie sounds a little strange to my ears anyway

    • @organeu
      @organeu 10 місяців тому +1

      Mojo is good, very good, but lovers of HAMMOND play on Hammond. The XK5 is fabulous, a little better than Mojo.

    • @1970piano
      @1970piano 9 місяців тому +5

      Maybe that the xk5 sounds a little bit better than the Mojo, but this has nothing to do with the name „Hammond“. The current Hammond-Suzuki has nothing to do with the old Hammond company. And technically, a Hammond xk5 is a digital clone like any other clone and has technically nothing in common with the old tonewheel Hammond A100‘s/B3‘s or C3‘s. .

    • @davidjacques768
      @davidjacques768 9 місяців тому +1

      @@organeutoo bad is not a Hammond. Its a Suzuki and they have done little to honor Hammond’s reputation. I am a Hammond player with several vintage consoles and have owned and performed with Suzuki organs for years. I was so tired putting up with Suzuki’s lazy sound development and basically selling their crappy organs for premium prices just because they slap the “Hammond” name on it, that I switched to a Mojo 6 years ago and never turned back.

    • @marcusstrymon693
      @marcusstrymon693 7 місяців тому

      My yamaha ck 88 has a farfisa sound which is per default very distorted and you cant get rid of
      WHAT A FUCKING LETDOWN

  • @FullnMellow
    @FullnMellow 10 місяців тому +3

    To me both sound very much different from each other. Seems the XK5 has more overdrive running, which I dislike and I wonder why this seems to be hyped so much today. I miss that both instruments are tuned to sound the same as closely as possible to make a better statement which one seems better.

  • @stevec.1802
    @stevec.1802 10 місяців тому +3

    Both are excellent. 🎧The XK5 has a bit more girth and eq in certain frequencies, but the mojo 61 deserves a consideration when portability and cost are a determining factor. Nice presentation, Nick.

  • @IMCcanTWEESTED
    @IMCcanTWEESTED 2 місяці тому

    Yeah...but is there a setting on the Crumar that produces that overdriven growl associated with classic B3 tube amp volume pot adjustment. It sounds to me that the XK-5 either has a tube preamp or at least a digital overdrive simulaor. Either way. the difference or "brighter" sound of the Hammond I think is due to the slight rasp of the overdrive simulation. You can't have a true B3 simulator without the ability to add that dirty pot growl. Otherwise it's sort of useless as a rock organ. Better suited for a cleaner "gospel" sound.

  • @devinneiss4198
    @devinneiss4198 7 місяців тому

    Picked up a Crumar Classic Suitcase (the one w/reverse keys) Had no experience with Crumar - only ever owned Hammonds - bought it for looks because it looked like a custom chopped C3. Very impressive instrument - not built to the same spec as a genuine Hammond but man this thing smokes! John Lord fans look no further.

  • @akallons
    @akallons 10 місяців тому +1

    When disengaging the Leslie on the crumar (not stop function but fully off), the brightness comes back and can certainly suit a real Leslie. Perhaps the different voicing between the Mojo and xk5 is mainly caused by the Leslie Sim with cabinet emulation

    • @akallons
      @akallons 10 місяців тому +1

      The Mojo has definitely more mids which can be felt as well on the overdrive character. Tuning the EQ or internal settings in the editor could be worth spending a little time to adjust things

    • @akallons
      @akallons 10 місяців тому +2

      Slow Leslie seems nicer on the Mojo but fast rather on the xk5... The trick would be to tame down the Doppler effect on the Mojo (editor) to improve a bit the fast Leslie which can be a bit wobbly

    • @akallons
      @akallons 10 місяців тому +1

      In overall, it is impressive to see that despite a big price difference, both of them are good and different in terms of characters ! Italians can be proud :)

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  10 місяців тому

      @@akallons Cheers

    • @nicklisac4667
      @nicklisac4667 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@akallonsI love the mojo chorale (slow) Leslie and I've slowed down the tremolo a bit.
      Horn slow 0.80
      Horn fast 6.66
      Mic angle 76
      Mic distance 76
      Dry leak 10
      It's a work always in progress 🤭

  • @drumstudiomonchengladbach8131
    @drumstudiomonchengladbach8131 5 місяців тому +1

    In my opinion at 4:26 the HAMMOND is a bit more brilliant with more attack... but I guess there's more to come later on in this video!
    After just listening to the whole video it's - at least for me - pretty difficult to decide WHAT keyboard you used WHEN!
    Regarding the price I'd always chose the CRUMAR bc it almost gives the "better bang" for half of the price of a HAMMOND and I doubt that anybody in the audience can tell the difference!
    I'd love to hear the "Ferrofish 4000+ " compared to a Hammond B3!
    Have a nice day fro Germany"

  • @thomaskorthals5894
    @thomaskorthals5894 10 місяців тому

    Nick makes some good videos. The sound of the XK5 is on other videos from him much better. The Leslie sim of the XK5 is not the burner. Comparison should be made with a real Leslie.

  • @kylehorner8782
    @kylehorner8782 2 місяці тому

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  • @organeu
    @organeu 10 місяців тому +1

    Lovers of Hammond play on Hammond. Reason of respect.
    So, Mojo is very good, the best copy of New HAMMOND made in Italia.

    • @davidjacques768
      @davidjacques768 9 місяців тому +1

      OY. Its not a “Hammond”, its a Suzuki. Crumar is recreating real tonewheel organ sounds. Suzuki sounds like its trying to recreate a Farfisa.

  • @santellavision
    @santellavision 9 місяців тому +3

    Coming from a Hammond XK1c to the Mojo 61, I feel there's a big difference. The Mojo just sound more like a real Hammond. There's more depth to the overall tone. And in the lower register, the Mojo wins hands-down. The growl of the lower end with overdrive just kills. I prefer the Mojo's Leslie Sim too. Don't get me wrong, the 1c is a nice, lightweight portable keyboard and that's is a plus, the Mojo is much heavier if you gig. In the end, I sold the 1c and kept the Mojo. Just my 2.5¢.

    • @marcusstrymon693
      @marcusstrymon693 7 місяців тому

      Does the crumar also have farfisa and vox? And does it have more rotary sounds than 1?

    • @WayneMusicianUK
      @WayneMusicianUK 7 місяців тому

      Sold my Hammond XK1c, I just hated it! now bought a Crumar Mojo Suitcase, it’s like night and day.. would like to try a Neo Vent II on my Mojo, although I don’t really think I need it

    • @marcusstrymon693
      @marcusstrymon693 7 місяців тому

      @@WayneMusicianUK What did you hate about it?

    • @WayneMusicianUK
      @WayneMusicianUK 7 місяців тому

      @@marcusstrymon693 the sound, the Keybed everything

    • @marcusstrymon693
      @marcusstrymon693 7 місяців тому

      @@WayneMusicianUK Would be curious on how the mojo compares to the yamaha yc 61,73,88
      Since I thinkr the fm synthesis sounds may be super fun

  • @tied515
    @tied515 2 місяці тому

    This is pretty shocking, the Crumar is much cleaner. Is it sample based or tonewheel modeling ?

  • @JamesAveeno-eb1ft
    @JamesAveeno-eb1ft 10 місяців тому +1

    Can you pls do a tutorial on the house of the rising sun pls I love the organ solo thanks.

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  10 місяців тому

      I'll stick it on my list :-)

    • @JamesAveeno-eb1ft
      @JamesAveeno-eb1ft 10 місяців тому

      Thx so much I love your tutorials on deep purple songs

  • @tonyr.4778
    @tonyr.4778 10 місяців тому +1

    Just got a mojo 61. Sound is fantastic. A few things I would like though. A wah for the clav, and less bright LEDs. They are so bright that in a dark environment (on stage) you can't see what's selected. Electric pianos are great. Best thing is the waterfall keyboard. Phenomenal dynamics makes the playing so fun and alive. The organ sound is better than Hammond as it also has all the noise included which gives it real character. The comparison to me makes the hammond sound muffled. The mojo leslie is far better. The hammond has a weird emphasis on the pulsing that distracts from the sound, where the mojo Leslie is sweet and doesnt sound sythetic like the hammond.

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  10 місяців тому

      Thanks

    • @nicklisac4667
      @nicklisac4667 10 місяців тому

      You're not wrong about those LEDs. You can play the thing without switching the overhead light on 🤣

    • @tonyr.4778
      @tonyr.4778 10 місяців тому

      @@nickfoleyuk and thank you for the reviews and comparison videos.

    • @davidjacques768
      @davidjacques768 9 місяців тому

      I am surprised that you did not A/B the chorus vibrato. The Mojo would have buried the XK5 on that comparison.

    • @benmillen9263
      @benmillen9263 8 місяців тому

      The wah for the clav is a real disappointment. I know the clav is not their focus, but it seems like a real oversight.

  • @robertnuckels8792
    @robertnuckels8792 10 місяців тому +5

    The Mojo SMOKES the Hammond !

  • @jazzplayer59
    @jazzplayer59 10 місяців тому +2

    Big price difference... I'm sure someone in the audience wouldn't be able to tell the difference... possibly even the same band members.

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  10 місяців тому +1

      That's very true mate.

  • @philgreco7037
    @philgreco7037 Місяць тому +1

    The Hammond's warmer. Like a step away from a real one.

  • @theloniousmonk81
    @theloniousmonk81 2 місяці тому +1

    crummar!!!!!!

  • @louiscornale5667
    @louiscornale5667 10 місяців тому +1

    Great job but how about wooly bully watch it now 😮

  • @7Freitage
    @7Freitage 2 місяці тому +2

    Hammond or nothing

  • @mr.hamhandleler
    @mr.hamhandleler 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video, but which one should I buy

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  9 місяців тому +1

      Depends on your budget frankly. The mojo is great and cheap. The XK is better and more expensive

    • @mr.hamhandleler
      @mr.hamhandleler 9 місяців тому

      Oh ok, is the crumar a good first expensive organ purchase?

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  9 місяців тому

      @@mr.hamhandleler it’s a pretty
      Good purchase in my view. Not too expensive in real terms. There is a secondhand one in @fairdealmusic right now around £650. Id say that was a bargain. Yes the XK-5 is amazing, totally, but full on price. I’d play a mojo - through a Leslie - all day.

    • @mr.hamhandleler
      @mr.hamhandleler 9 місяців тому

      @nickfoleyuk thanks, and one more thing do you know if the suitcase mojo has the Rp sounds?

    • @nickfoleyuk
      @nickfoleyuk  9 місяців тому

      @@mr.hamhandleler I don’t know sorry

  • @gillianhanan7451
    @gillianhanan7451 3 місяці тому

    The XK5 sounds wishy washy compared to the Crumar ,the percussion in particular.
    Crumar is the winner for me having played real Hammond’s for years .

  • @georgecarlin5047
    @georgecarlin5047 Місяць тому

    Hammond seems a bit more bassy to me...

  • @Tonewheeldude
    @Tonewheeldude 3 місяці тому

    Hammond XK5 is the King 👑

  • @mrdali67
    @mrdali67 7 місяців тому

    Being biazed as a Mojo61 owner it definetly sound much more in your face than the XK5 here. In my taste the sound of the XK is a bit too sloppy sounding here, It does have a more warm sound in the bottom and the high drawbars seem a bit boosted compared to the Mojo, which can of cause be adjusted in both instruments. The mojo does have a boosted mid ootb here. Generally I'm not a big fan of the new Hammond Zuzuki's. The XK5 is definetly the best of their lineup. Don't like the SK Pro's at all. My honest opinion is I'd kill for the virtual multi contact of the XK-5. But as a single keyboard model the XK-5 is definetly not worth the more than twice the price of the Mojo. The sound is generally getting so good today. The Nords has long fallen of the track. The XK-5 is propably the best sound here if they were adjusted to about as close as possible the same sound. But the Mojo is not far off tho. The build quality is .. well like a true Italian keyboard not too great. It does what its good at in the sound. But the white text and black painting gets easy eaten by your fingers if you use the onboard buttons for the leslie sim. The keybed is far better than the Nord Electro despite using the same fatar bed, but god I would love to see a 1keybed Viscount soul model. Blows both of these away imho.

  • @christopherpederson1021
    @christopherpederson1021 4 місяці тому

    crumar for the win

  • @watcher9987
    @watcher9987 Місяць тому

    I've owned several Hammonds. They're not perfect Xk5 sounds like a real hammond, Cromartie too bright thin digital

  • @rpa83
    @rpa83 5 місяців тому +2

    Hammond sounds so much better, more attack, more clarity, more punch.

  • @acebrawler
    @acebrawler 6 місяців тому +3

    Xk5 all day!!

    • @dyinbreedband
      @dyinbreedband Місяць тому

      Leslie on the xk5 makes the entire board sound thin, especially the fast leslie.

  • @philgreco7037
    @philgreco7037 7 місяців тому

    Still not the sound of a Hammond B3. No way close.

  • @attalope3366
    @attalope3366 10 місяців тому +1

    There is no story! Hammond beat Crumar 3- 0 as Hammond played and as an appearance!
    Crumar beats Hammond 3-0 in price!