If they give melee weapons a passive bonus it might bring them out of skill gap to viable. Imagine dagger with a slight speed bonus and sword with a hp on kill or faster regen.
I said this to a friend the other day. While light is faster then say medium, if the medium is running away from u while you are said 5-10m you are stuck running after him for like 3-4 seconds before you catch up. It needs some extra speed or smth.
I'm seeing alot comments of people hating on the high mobility stuff here and on other vids and I really hope this game doesnt bend the knee to people that cant aim at anything that isnt stiff as a board because this always happens to these fun games, they come out with stuff like genji in ow or pathfinder in apex and they slowly get nerfed to the point where most the community cant even use it anymore while the other more brain dead stuff gets to stay broken and easy to use. Like dont call our fun movement broken and we wont call your 1 shotting rocket launchers and lewis gun with a ttk higher than meds ak broken 😂
Something I learned with the dagger is that you can slide jump and use the heavy mid air to hit right as you get behind them (learned this as im a filthy invis player)
the dagger was so good in the beta. idk why they changed it, u had the heavy hold like with the sword but only for 5 ish seconds and the active frames were the same as the sword. need it back
Actually there is a quicker way to kill mediums and heavies for the dmg combos, it is super hard but i found out a way quicker way but harder. (Right click into medium, quickly switch to one of your equipment then quickly switch back to your sword this animation cancels the lunge cooldown allowing you to instantly get a left click swipe in then quick melee.) This kills mediums way quicker then the normal lunge, left click then melee combo but omg is it hard to pull off i have only done it once and that medium got killed in a second. ANIMATION CANCELING IS OP WITH THE SWORD Simple way to explain combo Right click Lunge, animation cancel after hit then instantly left click swing then quick melee after left swing connects.
Also another tip, if you want to get good at animation canceling so you can swing quicker, what i did was rebind my scoll down to equip sword, so you can scroll up to switch to a equipment then scroll down to swap back to sword.
@@JacobYuan_ no, you can't do inputs that quick on controller. It isn't even worth it cause you can't input that fast compared to keyboard and mouse, like this tech is really hard to do
@@3RICtion lol good luck I got over 70 hours in the sword so far and it is such a hard combo to pull off but god dam does it feel good when you do. I fuck people up in tournament, I dropped 27 kills 20 mins ago. Tbh the day I see someone master that combo and pull it off regularly is the day I will believe we found a master sword user
Allegedly there’s a quicker kill method on Mediums with sword (harder to pull off but shaved off a second and a half) Right click Quickly start to swap to another gadet then cancel that animation by swapping back to sword before you’ve even pulled out the other gadget Then left click melee
Thanks for the vid broski, I've been trying to understand light melee for multiple playtests. Learning about the fact that if you autolock on someone the trickstab becomes easier is so good to learn.
I'm curious why your training models have yellow outlines? Also my backstab doesn't do a yellow hitmarker. Sitting here labbing this and wondering~ XD!!
Ive been using the throwing knifes with evasive dash, and im using the dash similarly to you to use my heavy attack as a melee attack, i use it than time it out and dash into someone for a big burst of dmg, usually trying to hit for their blind spot, than you dash away and toss out a set of normal blades as you're leaving and you can side by people so quickly they dont even know what hit them.
@@3RICtion with the invis nade? Cause I already have evasive dash equipt, and prob wont even buy the invis special because evasive dash is never getting taken off my light 😂
Yesterday dropped my first 20 bomb with sword in quick cash! Its really good and fun weapon to use but skill ceiling is high. Its really about positioning and trickery too, otherwise just will get blasted 😂
Ima light main and have always mained dash over cloak but why no stun gun fam? I feel like the stun gun is a MUST no matter wat else you are using the stun is a MUSTTTT
@@popiop I use both at the same time. Most games have separate binds for crouch, I put my main one as hold and the other one on toggle. If I'm in a gunfight for one, I don't want to worry about having to uncrouch while dealing with everything else and if I need to stay crouched normally I have time to go press another button and toggle it. This is game dependent as well though, for example Modern Warfare you need to have toggle crouch on for slide canceling but in games like Titanfall and Apex hold to crouch allows for easier slide hopping. Otherwise its personal preference.
@@3RICtion lock on doesnt exist with mouse and keyboard, only with controller or if u use a third party like rewasd to make the game thinks u are playing on a controller so u get aim assist on mouse and keyboard, wich is cheating
How easy is it to get kills with a sword!? Step 1: Cloak Step 2: get behind enemy & swing! Simple! Now your a pro! Go rack up 25+kills! It’s that easy guys!
I'm a medium player, but I run light with dash and sword sometimes for fun. I always shit on the dagger because I figured it was just a worse sword with very high risk for little reward, I now realize it's still very high risk, but at least usable and can be devastating to counter heavies with some practice. I'll be messing around with the dagger next session 👀
Saw the eyes and said, "yea this mf knows what he's talking about"
If they give melee weapons a passive bonus it might bring them out of skill gap to viable. Imagine dagger with a slight speed bonus and sword with a hp on kill or faster regen.
Exactly
I said this to a friend the other day. While light is faster then say medium, if the medium is running away from u while you are said 5-10m you are stuck running after him for like 3-4 seconds before you catch up. It needs some extra speed or smth.
And this is why u don't make games becuase ur a half brain fool.
@@sofaking9404that's why Light has dash i guess? I think it makes sense
@@honzabeitler5967 that makes a sound tho
Evasive dash = biggest balls in the finals
Exactly
i guess you use dash then bc that bs 😂
Not even close u stupid little kid
Bro fuck invisebel light dubbelbarrel fukers Hiding like Anna Frank in That corner
that’s grapple hook
Every kill with a sword counts as two if we’re being honest. 1 actual and another for style.
True
no if you use this class your gay
I'm seeing alot comments of people hating on the high mobility stuff here and on other vids and I really hope this game doesnt bend the knee to people that cant aim at anything that isnt stiff as a board because this always happens to these fun games, they come out with stuff like genji in ow or pathfinder in apex and they slowly get nerfed to the point where most the community cant even use it anymore while the other more brain dead stuff gets to stay broken and easy to use. Like dont call our fun movement broken and we wont call your 1 shotting rocket launchers and lewis gun with a ttk higher than meds ak broken 😂
@@lilbeanboi9169 wait im bi what if i use this, does it like reverse it an make me ace or smthn? Im confused about the logistics here.
@@lilbeanboi9169you heavy player?
Just started using the dagger yesterday and had a blast. You posted this just in time. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Great to hear!
Something I learned with the dagger is that you can slide jump and use the heavy mid air to hit right as you get behind them (learned this as im a filthy invis player)
Nice tip!
the dagger was so good in the beta. idk why they changed it, u had the heavy hold like with the sword but only for 5 ish seconds and the active frames were the same as the sword. need it back
I'm not the only one I miss it so much, made me stop using the dagger
But op
@@3RICtion It wasn't to bad as everyone one perceive it, but that's just me ofc
I legit thought the knife was only good with the cloak so i never bought it but now i gotta try, amazing video
both good, gl in games
Actually there is a quicker way to kill mediums and heavies for the dmg combos, it is super hard but i found out a way quicker way but harder. (Right click into medium, quickly switch to one of your equipment then quickly switch back to your sword this animation cancels the lunge cooldown allowing you to instantly get a left click swipe in then quick melee.) This kills mediums way quicker then the normal lunge, left click then melee combo but omg is it hard to pull off i have only done it once and that medium got killed in a second.
ANIMATION CANCELING IS OP WITH THE SWORD
Simple way to explain combo
Right click Lunge, animation cancel after hit then instantly left click swing then quick melee after left swing connects.
Also another tip, if you want to get good at animation canceling so you can swing quicker, what i did was rebind my scoll down to equip sword, so you can scroll up to switch to a equipment then scroll down to swap back to sword.
wtf is this possible on controller
@@JacobYuan_ no, you can't do inputs that quick on controller. It isn't even worth it cause you can't input that fast compared to keyboard and mouse, like this tech is really hard to do
Damn I will try this out, and if consistent in ranked play, I will make video about it
@@3RICtion lol good luck I got over 70 hours in the sword so far and it is such a hard combo to pull off but god dam does it feel good when you do. I fuck people up in tournament, I dropped 27 kills 20 mins ago. Tbh the day I see someone master that combo and pull it off regularly is the day I will believe we found a master sword user
Commented a lot by now but PLEASE UPLOAD ON THE FINALS
Yes sir
Allegedly there’s a quicker kill method on Mediums with sword (harder to pull off but shaved off a second and a half)
Right click
Quickly start to swap to another gadet then cancel that animation by swapping back to sword before you’ve even pulled out the other gadget
Then left click melee
mentioned in my second sword guide
Thanks for the vid broski, I've been trying to understand light melee for multiple playtests. Learning about the fact that if you autolock on someone the trickstab becomes easier is so good to learn.
Glad to hear it!
I am making a guide on trickstabbing, it will probably help you
I think this video will probably help you
@@tf2juicehello spy player from tf2
I'm curious why your training models have yellow outlines? Also my backstab doesn't do a yellow hitmarker. Sitting here labbing this and wondering~ XD!!
It's in the preferences. All in the settings
videos under 300 views is always a banger
I AGREE
I may want to run dagger 👀
The dagger combos in this vid work pretty well
Ive been using the throwing knifes with evasive dash, and im using the dash similarly to you to use my heavy attack as a melee attack, i use it than time it out and dash into someone for a big burst of dmg, usually trying to hit for their blind spot, than you dash away and toss out a set of normal blades as you're leaving and you can side by people so quickly they dont even know what hit them.
Nice you can even time an invis activation in ur combos btw
@@3RICtion with the invis nade? Cause I already have evasive dash equipt, and prob wont even buy the invis special because evasive dash is never getting taken off my light 😂
If you motion sensor an explosive can you can throw the can then grapple onto it to fly :D
Nice but don't get shot in the air
im in love with you for this
Train hard!!!
Nice vid man, I'll practise it and hopefully the build succeeds
YES U WILL
Finally! Another game where i can trickstab!
Yessir show em how it's done
what do you think about the throwing knives?
Not a melee weapon, kinda inbetween skill. Btw you can time the right click throwing knife to still be invis while u throw it
@@3RICtion didnt know that! ty!
Dash Technique - "Not much to it, just spam it"
Yessir
@@3RICtion let's goo
now that the shotgun is nerfed into the ground the dagger is the only way to play the ambush assassin playstyle
Right
You can have 2 weapons in reserve??
U can have 4 in there if you want
Yesterday dropped my first 20 bomb with sword in quick cash! Its really good and fun weapon to use but skill ceiling is high. Its really about positioning and trickery too, otherwise just will get blasted 😂
yesir
"the sword and the daeger"
Ima light main and have always mained dash over cloak but why no stun gun fam? I feel like the stun gun is a MUST no matter wat else you are using the stun is a MUSTTTT
Bro I said stun gun is 10/10
With sword its insane with dagger its bad
Try sledge with mesh shield or slam
But why would I ever try that?
What's the best melee remap button other than V
I personally use F, but I know friends of mine who put it on alternative mouse buttons like mouse 4
I also use F
Hmmm.. last question.
Crotch button? and toggle or hold?
@@popiop I use both at the same time. Most games have separate binds for crouch, I put my main one as hold and the other one on toggle. If I'm in a gunfight for one, I don't want to worry about having to uncrouch while dealing with everything else and if I need to stay crouched normally I have time to go press another button and toggle it. This is game dependent as well though, for example Modern Warfare you need to have toggle crouch on for slide canceling but in games like Titanfall and Apex hold to crouch allows for easier slide hopping. Otherwise its personal preference.
My friends laughed at me when I picked Sword light. Then I dropped 24 kills first game of quick cash.
Yes
Before I noticed the secondary attack on the sword I was running around hacking opponents lol
Hahaha left click warrior
Honestly tried all of lights abilities dash feels like the best and the cloak is absolutely terrible
didnt even mention grapple hook, CORRECT DECISION
I don't know if I'm just using it wrong but cloak is 100% useless if you're fighting anyone with more than one braincell.
I learned something new 11:22
NICE
Akiba dash incoming to meta
Yessir
@@3RICtion btw best guide about dagger so far. Really want you to keep going
ty
Damn bro thanks for the guide. Time to go make some people uninstall. Cheers mate 😅
HAAHAHA give em ptsd
my guy is gonna dash into his screen fr
And beyond!!!!
god tier music cue
YES TY FIRST TO COMMENT THIS
why does your camera lock on if u are using a mouse? no way this guy is cheating with rewasd and puts it on the internet
what?
@@3RICtion lock on doesnt exist with mouse and keyboard, only with controller or if u use a third party like rewasd to make the game thinks u are playing on a controller so u get aim assist on mouse and keyboard, wich is cheating
Maybe you should try things first hand before commenting.
Love the video. Bro, take half the Adderall, your parents won't accept you either way😅
Never heard of Adderall
@@3RICtion good good. Keep up the good work man. This is seriously one of the best guides I've seen
Me who uses the Riot Shield with recon sense😃😃😃
Great video though, i know a friend who will love this
Thanks 😁
ALL HAIL THE SWORD LORD
YESSIR
Why dont you show them in game instead of all talk
i mean the skill cealing of the dagger is pretty much infinite
Yessir
Nice
Nice c*ck
How easy is it to get kills with a sword!?
Step 1: Cloak
Step 2: get behind enemy & swing!
Simple! Now your a pro! Go rack up 25+kills! It’s that easy guys!
GET OUT
RIOT SHIELD GUIDE NEXT PLEASE!
THATS MEDIUM
I'm a medium player, but I run light with dash and sword sometimes for fun. I always shit on the dagger because I figured it was just a worse sword with very high risk for little reward, I now realize it's still very high risk, but at least usable and can be devastating to counter heavies with some practice. I'll be messing around with the dagger next session 👀
w video
W viewer
I use sword with grapple and pretend im attack on titan
With good practice...YES YOU ARE IN AOT
“Daegger” haha Canadian?? Midwest???
Digger
@@3RICtion 😮
EHREN DAEGGER!!
if dash gets nerfed im ngl im quitting
I'll be sad
Real
FAKE
Talks shit about cloak then uses vanishing bomb which is the same thing 😅