115 charges means City must be guilty, right? That's what I keep hearing... "However, The Times, external says it has seen a 165-page legal document in which City claim they are victims of "discrimination", that the amended rules were approved by rivals to "stifle" their success on the pitch, and call it "a tyranny of the majority." So what does that makes 165 PAGES? All prems are MORE guilty than City. 😂
@@sifisomgaga4760 THE FACT CITY FILED CASE FOR NULLIFYING FINANCIAL FAIR PLAY RULE, WHICH DISALLOWS RICH FROM GETTING RICHER, PROVES THEY R CORRUPT AND GUILTY. MUST B PUNISHED FAIRLY🙂. ITS LIKE CLAIMING INNOCENCE POST ABUSING LAW BY TARGETING D VICTIM.
@@Renegade76892 The best things in life are those earned with honesty and integrity. Only then can a person have a true sense of accomplishment and sleep well knowing they truly and fairly earned what they've got. Anyone who can celebrate and sleep well knowing that their achievements were dishonest must have something fundamentally wrong with their character. Its no different to a fighter using PEDS or a marathon runner getting a lift for the last 5 miles.....................its an advantage that you haven't earned. And an advantage that isn't earned isn't success.
The pl opened this can of worms they must have known when putting these charges there was gonna be a backlash from city you can't protect the elite club arsenal man utd Liverpool Tottenham Chelsea the old firms from teams who have the financial prowess from challenging their strangle hold on the pl nobody was complaining when utd were dominating the pl
Because man I ited money /investment was in line with it's income and net worth. Not like city where they want to write a blank cheque for dodgy sponsorship deals so they can have more money to spend. Same person owns the sponsors and the club. Do you not see the problem?
Oh he's okay for primar league to tarnish cities name and all funs but when the city fights back it's not okay it's big problem now Premier league in jeopardy
Would have been good to hear a balanced view ? Very skewed from point of view of traditional top teams, they hate the challenge and that’s what also needs reporting and discussing on SKY !
Manchester City were a traditional team, long history, amazing supporters. But this ownership has ruined them by showering them with gold coin. It’s classic tragedy and everyone fell for it - now they show their true face. Surely you can’t defend this as a City fan? You should be fighting to get your club back.
@@gooblegooble99I'm sure city fans are far happier now with winning than then. Tell me how can a team organically grow to the level of the big teams without what city has done. If the status quo is maintained then the few big teams will forever be on top
@@zeeusman3698 I understand this argument, but let’s look at City: 4 titles in a row, won everything, got huge sponsorship way inflated over its value, best manager, best players, best academy, yet the owners want MORE. It’s not enough to be on top; they want to throw all the regulations out the window. What’s the motive for this? I think we have to separate the club from its owners. Fans feel attacked by this, but it’s not about sporting rivalry - it’s about a country buying a club to sportwash their image and get everything they want. When Abramovich came along the game was ill-prepared. It was a shock for someone that wealthy - and obviously criminal - to come into a club and there were no checks and balances in place. Now they are in place, why are some owners trying to burn it all down to the ground?
@garyburns6473 , you left the legal ploy hanging ,why ? Am I to read this as city not contesting football on the field ,? Because I see city win four prem titles in a row and I hear you all saying city cheat for those titles , has city no rights to defend themselves or something that affects them, how can you value all the clubs equally in the premier league, is Ipswich town the same value as arsenal ? Is Lester the same value as city , ? English league will soon be American soccer , that is why the biggest stadium outside of Wembley , Manchester united is in disrepair , water fall cascading down trough the roof ,if city is cheating to win trophies , then all the teams are cheating for money too , if the game is played on the field with 22 players and four referees , city must be paying some of the players on opposing teams ,refs and managers to throw games in city favour , in that case , I think the football association and affiliates have serious charges against all clubs , except ARSENAL , they are the more severely hurt victim , and the only honest team in the league ,,
I did leave a second comment. I look forward to man citys defence against all the charges. Strange that they are taking preemptive court action now? Toys out of the pram, attack best part of defence?
They had all the money and time since 2011 to build a power house and a very sustainable entity, with all the money they have. But they chosen to go xxl and compete with Real Madrid & other big clubs who have built their club for +200 years. Learn people, never take short cuts, it takes time to build good things. Don't cheat!
Idiot, say you are running family business and you have a ton of money to invest and upgrade equipment to increase a production, wouldn't you do that? And then some other guy who is producing exactly the same stuff as you goes to a court and calls you a cheater bc you invest a ton of money in your business therefore you are screwing his business. Would you agree that you are a cheater?
About time stupid rules are abolished, these rules are crippling the PL, for once in my lifetime we have the financial muscle but cannot use it, when the Italians had the dosh they could spend what they want, the Spanish could but when we had the the financial clout - RESTRICTIONS. I’m not a city fan but a life long Liverpool fan
City save football again just like they are the first to reject super league, premier league is corrupted by certain big clubs official which benefit from the past.
This rule should have been in place when Roman Abromovich acquired Chelsea some many years ago. But it’s not too late to start from somewhere. I feel City are feeling let down as to why they cannot do same. The premier league board are heading in the right direction and need to stamp their authority as to set the rules that you cannot flaunt cash in a competition like the premier league and get away with it. It’s simple spend what you earn.
Chelsea were the reason the rules were made & tbf to them there was no rules back then. That's why despite everyone hating what Chelsea did you have to respect them as they never broke the rules
you've been accusing city of being cheaters for a whole year and now they're finally counterattacking and again you're complaining...not guilty until proven but you've always found them guilty...
i think its the timing... if city felt this way why did they wait to win 4 years in a row and then get challenged to then sue about the rules.. no to mention its right before their hearing is suppose to happen they had so much time to sue
@crazywaste1 every legal team has a strategy. If Mancity legal team feels attacking the system enhances their case, there's nothing wrong with it. If the PL feels they have a good case, they'll have the opportunity to defend themselves against Mancity. It's not like Mancity has more money than the PL
@@kontomylitis fair point but do you not feel they should have delt with the 115 first if city knows they didn't do wrong that would have help city have other teams on their side if not proven wrong for it
Trent should play in the games we’ll dominate posession, his creativity and set pieces will be key. I think Wharton would give Rice a bit more freedom, but we just haven’t seen enough of him or Mainoo. If the unthinkable happened and we lost Kane I’d prefer to see Bellingham as a false 9 than Watkins.
Exactly. That's the reason why the prem's gonnna pay the price. They're dispicable and disgrace of an organization to charge City in the fashion they did.
It would make the premier leaugue better if the spending rules changes as it lets the clubs outisde the so called top 6 like newcastle and villa to spend and then be able to challange at the top and stay there.
Yeah no one is necessarily disagreeing with that. The fact is everyone has followed the rules except City that's an unfair advantage. I think they should scrap ffp the Prem are a joke tbh
@mikem8211 they have but one of the big things they pointing out in regards to the sponsorship was changed the second newcastle got took over and they also changed the rules about the multi club ownership after newcastle got took over the premier league is protecting teams like arsenal
@paulstones1451 Oh yeah we've had so much protection from the Prem while we were broke paying back our stadium debt with everyone signing our best player every season & City literally signed half our team when they first struck oil but the rules are because of Arsenal. Everyone hates us because they know we're a proper classy non cheating club already a distant third to United & Liverpool then the oils club came with unlimited budgets & everyone banters us 🙄
So you'd rather have man city sit back and take it without fight back?? If the rules aren't lawful, how can you say they broke them in the first place??
Absolutely NO! The Premier League has brought this upon itself. The jealousy of City, which is hugely magnified and presented here, has left City with no alternative but to defend it's position. City believe they are innocent of the charges. Is that not allowed? 115 charges, some of which are as ridiculous as the length of the grass for certain fixtures and a lack of cooperation, The PL nonsense creators at their best. Really serious those two charges. The truth, City have totally enhanced the PL for the last 15 season's under the new owners. But some don't like that. The nonsense that is the Premier leagues jealous members certainly does need looking into. Let's remember how and when these charges were thrown into the football arena too. Not done in private, but presented on all the back pages right at a vital moment of the season, and clearly designed to upset City's attempt to win an unprecedented treble. The jealousy was at it's highest then and as it is from behind the fake praise displayed here. Oh City, the greatest team ever to play in the Premier league, but it's all their fault. The Premier League, let's all feel sorry for the Premier League, is perfect. More VAR anyone? Hand ball, 120 years of football yet they haven't sorted the hand ball rule out yet. Ball to hand, hand to ball, which is it? Ref's opinion actually. City have every right to ask questions of their accusers if they feel what goes on behind the closed doors of the Premier league members club is not representative of all is member's equally. I say well done City. It's just a bonus to see these so called top journalist's trying to blame City for something brought about by a small jealous group of clubs hiding in the members room of the Premier League farce. P.S. When you win the title 4 times in a row, the previous winners don't like losing their crowns and so this sort of thing is born. Jealousy pure jealousy. 💙
The league didn't need all the rules when United and Chelsea was winning. Real Madrid and Barcelona win in Spain and that doesn't affect the league. Please get journalists who are not supporters of none winning teams to give comments
Yeh but that was post success of class of 92 - Utd had become the most famous club due to their relentless pre season tours abroad and marketing - also the David Beckham factor. Man United legitimately made huge profits themselves, nothing to do with fake sponsorship deals or owner investment.
I thought that with the original case but after this they basically are saying they are bigger than the rules bigger than the premier league ? This has to be a massive punishment because if they win the case it damages football . I think clubs should boycott mcfc
Doesnt the fact that city are challenging the rules PROVE that they knew they were breaking the rules in the first place? Its the leagues rules. City signed up to abide by them. They didnt..... and theyre only defence is HOW the information was retreived. Not the information itself. Goodbye, good riddance, and good luck to those at Manchester Council who received brown envelopes to allow all this on their property. Hopefully the authorities will start looking into the land deal between city and the council. Doesn't anybody else think its strange why somebody would spend 100s of millions of their own money on a stadium the dont own and cant fill..... while at the same time, buying all the surrounding land that the council had been designated for "desperately needed, affordable housing for local community".... but was instead sold on the cheap to sheikh mansoor who is currently building appartments and offices for "high fliers" due to its close proximity to the city centre? Making BILLIONS in the process??? No, nothing to see here, keep moving. 🤔
Nope, ffp's gonna be even strictly enforced in future. And anyone breaking rules will be punished far swifter. Even La Liga won't allow FCB to get away with it & RM sre careful & abide by ffp now...... . .
Man City have been kicking the can down the road for a long time and only now chose to sue the Premier League over the APT rules, why now? Oh, because they know this will impede the 115 case in November if they lose this one and they are more than ever aware what’s coming in the form of punishment further down the line. It’s the Premier League’s duty now to win and restore integrity in the League, because if the PL loses this, their credibility and reputation goes too.
@kimjongun1777 you're the bigger dick because you're blinded by your partisanship. Just like Chelsea and just like Newcastle, when a club is acquired, their initial funding comes from the entity that acquired them. But over time Mancity has been consistently profitable. If you didn't know this, I can't help you. Just take off your blinders. The name of the entity is CFG(city football group) calling them Abu Dhabi doesn't change the facts in your direction
Very objective these journalists. Super objective journalism, well done lads. 1-sided POVs, where’s the airtime from the other side of the equation SKY???
I'm curious, what this would mean for multi-club ownership should Man City succeed with this case... Would it mean that money could be shifted from one club to another, by paying way over (or under) the market value, for players too?
No mate read the room everyone in football is angry at city after this because city could literally take down the premier league. I think all clubs should boycott city after this
@@Tommy-jl9dm so you would prefer that we operate with an illegal rule rather than challenge it? The case is simple. The courts will decide whether the PL rule is legal or not. Nothing to do with the hyperbole of taking down the PL. It’s just an anti City tripe.
@@juliusoba6488 wrong . Your argument is for the original case and I personally thought city had a good chance of winning it. But clearly they didn't believe they would and to take this course of action to try and use lawfare to reduce the charges is the actions of a guilty club and yes this has the potential to bring down the premier League as what is football without rules and if city set a president that there are no rules for the rich then this destroys the premier league from what it is and was.
So a majority of the premier league clubs decided to pursue allegations of financial irregularities against Man City .Who are probably the best managed Club on and off the field in World football ,If the financial limitations in the rules which City are contesting are illegal it seems obvious that City would Challenge them. The majority of the Premiere League Clubs have decided to attack City a member of their league and,Manchester City believe they have grounds to Sue the League for compensation.The premier League Clubs started this process and they make live to Regret it.The Solution going Forward is probably for The League to relax the financial limitations and encourage investment by The Clubs and Investors .
What stupid rule is EPL setting... Teams in the champions league need to be able to sign great players to compete... The premier league is not the only trophy they are playing for.
So now Man City thinks they are bigger than the Premier League they are playing in?? They must go join the Saudi League if they can't play by the rules.
PL sues Man City. Man City win the PL title 4 years in a row. PL should not be embarassed. Man City sue the PL because PL is biased against City and now City should be embarassed of the PL. Wow! PL didn't want to sue Man City. They wnated to destroy Man City. If not they would not have come up with this ridiculous 115 charges. They would've said something like 10 major breaches and carried out their case with dignity. But they didn't. I know what the PL is trying to do with this preposterous and propaganda fueled attack on City. Shame on the PL, to sue their own champions in such a fashion. They've bought so much of joy and prestige to the PL. Not to mention they've bought so many outside fans to the PL. Its just a shame. City have every right to sue PL back, just for the propoganda fueled campaign that the PL have had against them. City's image has been completely tared to tatters. Thanks to them. Its not just about the money. Its how you spend it. If not Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs would all be doing much better than City. Trust me on this. Money doesn't gurantee success. Neither instantly nor in the long term. You've got to invest in the right manner to achieve success. And Chelsea's owners to did this back in the early 2000s, I don't see PL going after them. PL is so biased here. I just can't wrap my head around it. That is the reason why Real Madrid keeps on winning CL. A club is supposed to be run with some financial liberty and leverage for it to be successful.
Im afraid I cannot take Man City seriously as a football club anymore. They should be removed from all football competitions in this country and go and play in the Middle East.
In one way, city is trying to get away with cheating but also The Premier League think they are a monarchy and no can do anything to them, be it from refeeering or challenging them so I'm happy as well that city is doing this
Well if you taking oil money to elevate the league and structure then what do you really expect. How do you think these clubs will survive. Stop being hypocrites cause you can't have the cake and eat it all. Man city is right for exactly what they're doing. You allowed millions in infrastructure to be built in Manchester city and all of that is from oil money so what's the difference? You people sound disgusting. Man City must stand for something or continue to be the lamb of English football. Manchester united and chelsea and even to Tottenham all can be named as scandalous owners but English media bury all of this
City just fighting against elitism of traditional clubs. What's wrong with that? Why is everyone crying foul? Henry Winter and the other guy are so biased, I thought journalists ought to be neutral? Matt Luton and Henry Winter, AntiCity. So biased it's not worth listening to.
You withdraw your 115 PSR charges, I withdraw my lawsuit. Outrageously distasteful, disgusting tactics and should add to the penalty handed out to them for the 115 charges.
To say: yeah we broke your rules, but it's your rules that are the problem is to say we know we'll get convicted unless we go on the offensive and turn the tables
The rules were changed when newcastle got took over to stop them been a power house it's not only city who think this as they mention at least other 8 clubs think the same
@@paulstones1451 I mean if city knows they didn’t do anything, why not show ur evidence? Why with all these delays? You know deep down city have done dodgy deals.
All these other teams are jealous of Mancity's success on the pitch so they're binding together to make it difficult for them. They have every right to sue.
Presumed innocent , no such thing here , legal system is fckd, those who can those who can't break the law with consequences, prem rule book , what about abranovich?
Don't worry. Even if you want, you can't play with them. I mean, your team full of professional footballers struggle against them, you do not even stand a chance. One tackle and you would be either in hospital or back to your mommy crying.
@silverstreet7984 Well, when you're accused of breaking the rules, then come out and say the rules are unfair before defending yourself in court Comes across as very untrustworthy if you're innocent go to court and sue after. Because your case to sue is a lot stronger
Hope Man City smash this to the wind and scrap this illegal PSR nonsense!! All the best Man City we are rooting for you from Newcastle Utd fans 😂 🖤🤍🖤🤍 Aramco ready and waiting
The audacity of City is beyond words! They've been out on bail for 2 years and now they are crying racism! You couldn't make this up. I tell you what, take City to Saudi and we will all be happy
This is the end of mcfc honestly i thought they would clear their name but now i think every prem team should boycott them they are risking the entire premier league. No club is bigger than football
Literally the classic civil suit tactic.
man city owners make thier own rules 😂😂
@@chrischristian3805lol 😂 nice 👍 plus City winnin this 4 sure
man city think they are bigger than the PL
Can we ask them to join the Saudi league
They tried to join Superleague and than got blocked.
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Same as the rest "Bix six" 😅😊
Why Saudi?
man city think they are bigger than the PL
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Man City's legal bills need to be audited, to ensure all their legal teams fees are indeed coming from genuine sources.
So City basically admitting they broke the rules but now suing the Prem arguing the rules are unlawful! The brass neck
115 charges means City must be guilty, right? That's what I keep hearing...
"However, The Times, external says it has seen a 165-page legal document in which City claim they are victims of "discrimination", that the amended rules were approved by rivals to "stifle" their success on the pitch, and call it "a tyranny of the majority."
So what does that makes 165 PAGES? All prems are MORE guilty than City. 😂
How the f are they admiting it? 🤡
Lot of money spent while claiming none broken 😂
Challenging the rules doesn't mean you are guilty. Yo! Dealing with small minded creatures is tiring
@@sifisomgaga4760 THE FACT CITY FILED CASE FOR NULLIFYING FINANCIAL FAIR PLAY RULE, WHICH DISALLOWS RICH FROM GETTING RICHER, PROVES THEY R CORRUPT AND GUILTY. MUST B PUNISHED FAIRLY🙂. ITS LIKE CLAIMING INNOCENCE POST ABUSING LAW BY TARGETING D VICTIM.
Panic mode tactics.
@@chrischristian3805enjoy the championship
@@chrischristian3805enjoy relegation mate😂😂😂😂
@@petergarrett3481 nah we're gonna continue to enjoy winning titles thanks
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@@Renegade76892 The best things in life are those earned with honesty and integrity. Only then can a person have a true sense of accomplishment and sleep well knowing they truly and fairly earned what they've got. Anyone who can celebrate and sleep well knowing that their achievements were dishonest must have something fundamentally wrong with their character. Its no different to a fighter using PEDS or a marathon runner getting a lift for the last 5 miles.....................its an advantage that you haven't earned. And an advantage that isn't earned isn't success.
Pep is a great coach.... Guilty of paying the Spanish referees federation in Barcelona and now this. Poor guy.
Guilty how ? The court has already acquitted the club of any corruption. Don't trust English sources for the news on other leagues
the way that the 115 case has been dragged out that should be concluded before any other case that has just been brought
Thief scolding the police. City after EPL rules. Same shame😂
@kuldipthapa....and what, exactly, makes City thieves?.... Think before you comment🤡
man city think they are bigger than the PL
Sir Alex Ferguson was spot on:
- "Noise Neighbours".
its like netanyahu going against ICC but knwing he broke the law.
The Premier League invited them in. They get what they deserve.
Lol, cry more, I need to wash my car 🪣🪣🪣
man city think they are bigger than the PL
Keep politics out of sport
Great analogy
I remember City winning
the FA cup in 1904, marvelous stuff.
Well you must be an old hog then
Instead of actively proving their innocence, they’re actively proving their guilt
no they arent wtf are you on about . clown
Innocent until proven guilty
They provided the documents to prove their innocence ages ago. 😄
Deluded 115Fc fans
@@u-Dramatic_avocado5867Desperate Crying FC fans 🤣
The pl opened this can of worms they must have known when putting these charges there was gonna be a backlash from city you can't protect the elite club arsenal man utd Liverpool Tottenham Chelsea the old firms from teams who have the financial prowess from challenging their strangle hold on the pl nobody was complaining when utd were dominating the pl
Nobody talked about PSR when United was a serial winners .
The rules have changed you berk
Because United is not Plastic like City. It has history, it has a fan base and real sponsorship. Not like this cheap plastic club City
@@gukiinapeter3277 That’s exactly the reason MC filed law suit against PL because they are sided with cartail club like United.
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Because man I ited money /investment was in line with it's income and net worth. Not like city where they want to write a blank cheque for dodgy sponsorship deals so they can have more money to spend. Same person owns the sponsors and the club. Do you not see the problem?
City you have created a hell of a fuckin narrative with this one....
Oh he's okay for primar league to tarnish cities name and all funs but when the city fights back it's not okay it's big problem now Premier league in jeopardy
Would have been good to hear a balanced view ? Very skewed from point of view of traditional top teams, they hate the challenge and that’s what also needs reporting and discussing on SKY !
Manchester City were a traditional team, long history, amazing supporters. But this ownership has ruined them by showering them with gold coin. It’s classic tragedy and everyone fell for it - now they show their true face. Surely you can’t defend this as a City fan? You should be fighting to get your club back.
If that's the case, why did they not find a way to punish Chelsea when their Russian owner was spending crazy money?
@@gooblegooble99I'm sure city fans are far happier now with winning than then. Tell me how can a team organically grow to the level of the big teams without what city has done. If the status quo is maintained then the few big teams will forever be on top
@@zeeusman3698 I understand this argument, but let’s look at City: 4 titles in a row, won everything, got huge sponsorship way inflated over its value, best manager, best players, best academy, yet the owners want MORE. It’s not enough to be on top; they want to throw all the regulations out the window.
What’s the motive for this? I think we have to separate the club from its owners. Fans feel attacked by this, but it’s not about sporting rivalry - it’s about a country buying a club to sportwash their image and get everything they want.
When Abramovich came along the game was ill-prepared. It was a shock for someone that wealthy - and obviously criminal - to come into a club and there were no checks and balances in place. Now they are in place, why are some owners trying to burn it all down to the ground?
When a "Dog"(metaphor) is drowning, it tries to scratch and grab anything to pull someone with them!
Could you get anymore bias journalists for the Man City piece? You are almost proving Man Citys point.
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@@paultaylor9498I doubt if most City fans have reached puberty yet
I could see pure bias, hate and jealousy in those 'journalists'.
man city think they are bigger than the PL
Remember when football was contested on the pitch? Just a legal ploy
Remember when people don't cheat outside the pitch?
@garyburns6473 , you left the legal ploy hanging ,why ? Am I to read this as city not contesting football on the field ,? Because I see city win four prem titles in a row and I hear you all saying city cheat for those titles , has city no rights to defend themselves or something that affects them, how can you value all the clubs equally in the premier league, is Ipswich town the same value as arsenal ? Is Lester the same value as city , ? English league will soon be American soccer , that is why the biggest stadium outside of Wembley , Manchester united is in disrepair , water fall cascading down trough the roof ,if city is cheating to win trophies , then all the teams are cheating for money too , if the game is played on the field with 22 players and four referees , city must be paying some of the players on opposing teams ,refs and managers to throw games in city favour , in that case , I think the football association and affiliates have serious charges against all clubs , except ARSENAL , they are the more severely hurt victim , and the only honest team in the league ,,
I did leave a second comment. I look forward to man citys defence against all the charges. Strange that they are taking preemptive court action now? Toys out of the pram, attack best part of defence?
does anyone say anything about chelsea and the amount they have spent
Clueless newbie
Clownlake already snitched on themselves alerting the PL about Roman’s nonsense
They spent a billion and recouped 400m. Lots of loan fees too.
Clueless newbie. Typical
Well they haven't sued the league, have they? At least not yet..😅
They had all the money and time since 2011 to build a power house and a very sustainable entity, with all the money they have. But they chosen to go xxl and compete with Real Madrid & other big clubs who have built their club for +200 years. Learn people, never take short cuts, it takes time to build good things. Don't cheat!
Idiot, say you are running family business and you have a ton of money to invest and upgrade equipment to increase a production, wouldn't you do that? And then some other guy who is producing exactly the same stuff as you goes to a court and calls you a cheater bc you invest a ton of money in your business therefore you are screwing his business. Would you agree that you are a cheater?
About time stupid rules are abolished, these rules are crippling the PL, for once in my lifetime we have the financial muscle but cannot use it, when the Italians had the dosh they could spend what they want, the Spanish could but when we had the the financial clout - RESTRICTIONS. I’m not a city fan but a life long Liverpool fan
City save football again just like they are the first to reject super league, premier league is corrupted by certain big clubs official which benefit from the past.
This rule should have been in place when Roman Abromovich acquired Chelsea some many years ago. But it’s not too late to start from somewhere. I feel City are feeling let down as to why they cannot do same. The premier league board are heading in the right direction and need to stamp their authority as to set the rules that you cannot flaunt cash in a competition like the premier league and get away with it. It’s simple spend what you earn.
Chelsea were the reason the rules were made & tbf to them there was no rules back then. That's why despite everyone hating what Chelsea did you have to respect them as they never broke the rules
you've been accusing city of being cheaters for a whole year and now they're finally counterattacking and again you're complaining...not guilty until proven but you've always found them guilty...
Why is it that the PL can sue but you have problem with Mancity suing the PL? If the PL are in the right, what are they afraid of?
i think its the timing... if city felt this way why did they wait to win 4 years in a row and then get challenged to then sue about the rules.. no to mention its right before their hearing is suppose to happen they had so much time to sue
@crazywaste1 every legal team has a strategy. If Mancity legal team feels attacking the system enhances their case, there's nothing wrong with it. If the PL feels they have a good case, they'll have the opportunity to defend themselves against Mancity. It's not like Mancity has more money than the PL
@@kontomylitis fair point but do you not feel they should have delt with the 115 first if city knows they didn't do wrong that would have help city have other teams on their side if not proven wrong for it
@crazywaste1 it's not Mancity's responsibility to call the 115-charge case. If the PL is ready, they may do so
@@kontomylitis well their legal team I mentioned more of but I guess we shall see how it unfolds
FFP came in after City won their first Premier League trophy 🏆 FACT!
Your point
Still cheaters😂
Because City spent insane amounts of money to buy the title and it was becoming ridiculous.
Trent should play in the games we’ll dominate posession, his creativity and set pieces will be key. I think Wharton would give Rice a bit more freedom, but we just haven’t seen enough of him or Mainoo.
If the unthinkable happened and we lost Kane I’d prefer to see Bellingham as a false 9 than Watkins.
Cheats never prosper.
Allegedly remember
Exactly. That's the reason why the prem's gonnna pay the price. They're dispicable and disgrace of an organization to charge City in the fashion they did.
Unless you’re Man City 😂
Totally unfair to place so much pressure on Toney. Surely the squad should have been decided by now, just over a week before the Tournament starts.
Attack with attack to escape the guilt!! Classic narcissism!!
Islam
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@@PredHunter83 guilty until proven...the fact that they're trying to sue says it all
OK narcissistic philosopher‼️🙄😆
Or shall we say, more suited, BOTTLER‼️🙄😂🤣
It would make the premier leaugue better if the spending rules changes as it lets the clubs outisde the so called top 6 like newcastle and villa to spend and then be able to challange at the top and stay there.
Yeah no one is necessarily disagreeing with that. The fact is everyone has followed the rules except City that's an unfair advantage. I think they should scrap ffp the Prem are a joke tbh
@mikem8211 they have but one of the big things they pointing out in regards to the sponsorship was changed the second newcastle got took over and they also changed the rules about the multi club ownership after newcastle got took over the premier league is protecting teams like arsenal
@paulstones1451 Oh yeah we've had so much protection from the Prem while we were broke paying back our stadium debt with everyone signing our best player every season & City literally signed half our team when they first struck oil but the rules are because of Arsenal. Everyone hates us because they know we're a proper classy non cheating club already a distant third to United & Liverpool then the oils club came with unlimited budgets & everyone banters us 🙄
both Newcastle and Villa are doing better than some of the top 6 teams under FFP so what you say doesn't make sense!
@judearo3089 that's why newcastle struggled this season with injuries as they were not able to spend lol 😆
City will learn that you make history you don't buy it
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Premier League will learn about European and uk fair play law😂😂😂
So you'd rather have man city sit back and take it without fight back?? If the rules aren't lawful, how can you say they broke them in the first place??
Absolutely NO! The Premier League has brought this upon itself. The jealousy of City, which is hugely magnified and presented here, has left City with no alternative but to defend it's position.
City believe they are innocent of the charges. Is that not allowed?
115 charges, some of which are as ridiculous as the length of the grass for certain fixtures and a lack of cooperation, The PL nonsense creators at their best. Really serious those two charges. The truth, City have totally enhanced the PL for the last 15 season's under the new owners.
But some don't like that. The nonsense that is the Premier leagues jealous members certainly does need looking into.
Let's remember how and when these charges were thrown into the football arena too. Not done in private, but presented on all the back pages right at a vital moment of the season, and clearly designed to upset City's attempt to win an unprecedented treble. The jealousy was at it's highest then and as it is from behind the fake praise displayed here.
Oh City, the greatest team ever to play in the Premier league, but it's all their fault. The Premier League, let's all feel sorry for the Premier League, is perfect.
More VAR anyone? Hand ball, 120 years of football yet they haven't sorted the hand ball rule out yet. Ball to hand, hand to ball, which is it? Ref's opinion actually.
City have every right to ask questions of their accusers if they feel what goes on behind the closed doors of the Premier league members club is not representative of all is member's equally.
I say well done City.
It's just a bonus to see these so called top journalist's trying to blame City for something brought about by a small jealous group of clubs hiding in the members room of the Premier League farce.
P.S. When you win the title 4 times in a row, the previous winners don't like losing their crowns and so this sort of thing is born. Jealousy pure jealousy. 💙
The league didn't need all the rules when United and Chelsea was winning. Real Madrid and Barcelona win in Spain and that doesn't affect the league. Please get journalists who are not supporters of none winning teams to give comments
agreed
United didn't spend millions when they first won the prem unlike city
United has real history and a real fan base with real sponsorship. Not this plastic club City that no body respects
@@rogerconneely-ve3mm yeah right only spent a fortune on like Rio Ferdinand if i remember right they paid Leeds a record fee for him
Yeh but that was post success of class of 92 - Utd had become the most famous club due to their relentless pre season tours abroad and marketing - also the David Beckham factor. Man United legitimately made huge profits themselves, nothing to do with fake sponsorship deals or owner investment.
About time. We need to put an end to this red corruption once and for all. My club has been dragged through the mud for nothing.
Cant wait to see you in Ligue 2
@@NoobzFM nahh we will screw you continuously in court and with 1 point😂😂😂
Clear your name or take the punishment simple
@@mikem8211 We will don't worry
The prem has messed this up from the get go. City will get hit with like 10 point deduction. That's it.
I thought that with the original case but after this they basically are saying they are bigger than the rules bigger than the premier league ? This has to be a massive punishment because if they win the case it damages football . I think clubs should boycott mcfc
City must be demoted
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@@PredHunter83we are not that jealous of the oil club we want far play in prem
@@PredHunter83 Classic childish response, am I surprised? Not at all.
I love city to the core😂😂😂
City digging their own grave here...
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And everyone thought Utd were the bad boys
Two narcissist reporters. Really. man C have the right im a fan of excellence.
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@@PredHunter83tinpot titles for a tinpot club
@@Jamacianwoodbine tell me more
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Doesnt the fact that city are challenging the rules PROVE that they knew they were breaking the rules in the first place?
Its the leagues rules.
City signed up to abide by them.
They didnt..... and theyre only defence is HOW the information was retreived. Not the information itself.
Goodbye, good riddance, and good luck to those at Manchester Council who received brown envelopes to allow all this on their property.
Hopefully the authorities will start looking into the land deal between city and the council.
Doesn't anybody else think its strange why somebody would spend 100s of millions of their own money on a stadium the dont own and cant fill..... while at the same time, buying all the surrounding land that the council had been designated for "desperately needed, affordable housing for local community".... but was instead sold on the cheap to sheikh mansoor who is currently building appartments and offices for "high fliers" due to its close proximity to the city centre?
Making BILLIONS in the process???
No, nothing to see here, keep moving. 🤔
these are new rules they are challenging ffs
@@kevins9417 Not new rules they haxe been in place since 2022
You instantly introduced proof from somewhere. Where? Of what? 🤡
FFP is done
Nope, ffp's gonna be even strictly enforced in future. And anyone breaking rules will be punished far swifter. Even La Liga won't allow FCB to get away with it & RM sre careful & abide by ffp now...... . .
Good riddance
We all know they be cooking the books at mcfc 😮
Gordon Ramsey level cooking.
You know literally nothing. 😄
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@@PredHunter83you’ll be crying when those titles get stripped
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Dey Play 😂
Man City have been kicking the can down the road for a long time and only now chose to sue the Premier League over the APT rules, why now? Oh, because they know this will impede the 115 case in November if they lose this one and they are more than ever aware what’s coming in the form of punishment further down the line. It’s the Premier League’s duty now to win and restore integrity in the League, because if the PL loses this, their credibility and reputation goes too.
Why is it that when it comes to Mancity funding you have to always refer to the country of origin? That's the discrimination they're talking about
Don’t be a dick it’s common sense Man City gets most of their funding from Abhu Dhabi
@kimjongun1777 you're the bigger dick because you're blinded by your partisanship. Just like Chelsea and just like Newcastle, when a club is acquired, their initial funding comes from the entity that acquired them. But over time Mancity has been consistently profitable. If you didn't know this, I can't help you. Just take off your blinders. The name of the entity is CFG(city football group) calling them Abu Dhabi doesn't change the facts in your direction
Very objective these journalists. Super objective journalism, well done lads. 1-sided POVs, where’s the airtime from the other side of the equation SKY???
I'm curious, what this would mean for multi-club ownership should Man City succeed with this case... Would it mean that money could be shifted from one club to another, by paying way over (or under) the market value, for players too?
No wonder pep and Kevin itching to jump the ship😂😂
This is so much as Normal life..The big boys most time gets away..Everton and Forrest was dealth with ..why not City Yet..
Nice one stallers…
Blatant…. Fine them even more…
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Hate all you want. 8 other clubs backing city to win this. You hating on city who are fighting for your club rn.
Just cut 115fc license from pl p.off😅
Pre emptive strike by City before points deduction.
These journalists are incredibly corrupt. Instead of focusing on the substance of the issue, they are focused on their perception of City as a club.
No mate read the room everyone in football is angry at city after this because city could literally take down the premier league. I think all clubs should boycott city after this
@@Tommy-jl9dm so you would prefer that we operate with an illegal rule rather than challenge it?
The case is simple. The courts will decide whether the PL rule is legal or not. Nothing to do with the hyperbole of taking down the PL.
It’s just an anti City tripe.
@@juliusoba6488 wrong . Your argument is for the original case and I personally thought city had a good chance of winning it. But clearly they didn't believe they would and to take this course of action to try and use lawfare to reduce the charges is the actions of a guilty club and yes this has the potential to bring down the premier League as what is football without rules and if city set a president that there are no rules for the rich then this destroys the premier league from what it is and was.
Now the payback begins
Makes sense why Guardiola plans to jump ship next year 😂
Yess😂😂😂
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@@PredHunter83 Haha you misunderstood the emoji pal. It's a laughing emoji. Anyway I'm having the fun of my life!! ~~one team league~~
Fraudiola bre 😂
He's going nowhere 😅
So a majority of the premier league clubs decided to pursue allegations of financial irregularities against Man City .Who are probably the best managed Club on and off the field in World football ,If the financial limitations in the rules which City are contesting are illegal it seems obvious that City would Challenge them. The majority of the Premiere League Clubs have decided to attack City a member of their league and,Manchester City believe they have grounds to Sue the League for compensation.The premier League Clubs started this process and they make live to Regret it.The Solution going Forward is probably for The League to relax the financial limitations and encourage investment by The Clubs and Investors .
City cheated,, end of.
Scum
I hope their legal fees are included in the club's financial operations!!
What stupid rule is EPL setting... Teams in the champions league need to be able to sign great players to compete... The premier league is not the only trophy they are playing for.
So now Man City thinks they are bigger than the Premier League they are playing in?? They must go join the Saudi League if they can't play by the rules.
city are right
PL sues Man City. Man City win the PL title 4 years in a row. PL should not be embarassed.
Man City sue the PL because PL is biased against City and now City should be embarassed of the PL.
Wow!
PL didn't want to sue Man City. They wnated to destroy Man City. If not they would not have come up with this ridiculous 115 charges. They would've said something like 10 major breaches and carried out their case with dignity. But they didn't. I know what the PL is trying to do with this preposterous and propaganda fueled attack on City.
Shame on the PL, to sue their own champions in such a fashion. They've bought so much of joy and prestige to the PL. Not to mention they've bought so many outside fans to the PL. Its just a shame.
City have every right to sue PL back, just for the propoganda fueled campaign that the PL have had against them. City's image has been completely tared to tatters. Thanks to them.
Its not just about the money. Its how you spend it. If not Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs would all be doing much better than City. Trust me on this. Money doesn't gurantee success. Neither instantly nor in the long term. You've got to invest in the right manner to achieve success.
And Chelsea's owners to did this back in the early 2000s, I don't see PL going after them. PL is so biased here. I just can't wrap my head around it. That is the reason why Real Madrid keeps on winning CL. A club is supposed to be run with some financial liberty and leverage for it to be successful.
Shut up
Yes city fight back, about time.
Football is a joke if City win, shame on them. Strip them off everything.
It’s not a stripper club bud. City will shove big thing up into PL.
That makes sense. 😄
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The rules are illegal and clubs should be able to spend money.
Im afraid I cannot take Man City seriously as a football club anymore. They should be removed from all football competitions in this country and go and play in the Middle East.
In one way, city is trying to get away with cheating but also The Premier League think they are a monarchy and no can do anything to them, be it from refeeering or challenging them so I'm happy as well that city is doing this
If city doesn’t like the rules, nobody forces them to be part of the league.
If they win it's because they're right and the PL is wrong. If you feel the PL is right, what are you afraid of?
we must stop any other team competing only United and Liverpool should be allowed to spend
What is point of this one sided opinion
"Democracy" is also hearing the arguments from both sides
Woohoo premier league is about to owned by man City lol
How desperate are you? 😂😂
‘No one is bigger than Britain’ that’s just about it other than the English Premier League itself
I like it😂
Another plastic.
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I love it
@@grease118you mean another waste manage you guys going to get next season
I do feel if it is tyranny of majority if they are being picked on because of the owners like they did against the Chelsea owner.
Any owner who don't like the rules the vast majority of clubs have voted for are free to leave. Nothing complicated about it.
Well if you taking oil money to elevate the league and structure then what do you really expect. How do you think these clubs will survive. Stop being hypocrites cause you can't have the cake and eat it all. Man city is right for exactly what they're doing. You allowed millions in infrastructure to be built in Manchester city and all of that is from oil money so what's the difference? You people sound disgusting. Man City must stand for something or continue to be the lamb of English football. Manchester united and chelsea and even to Tottenham all can be named as scandalous owners but English media bury all of this
You got it wrong lol, it's mainly about misinformation in the financial statements, paying under the table for people, etc
News flash buddy, every club does the same ...Some just better than some...thats the reality @@Rageebait
@@troyhodge4543any proof?
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If 14 teams voted to end relegation today, that’s consistent with the democratic process as well. But will that be allowed?
City just fighting against elitism of traditional clubs. What's wrong with that? Why is everyone crying foul? Henry Winter and the other guy are so biased, I thought journalists ought to be neutral? Matt Luton and Henry Winter, AntiCity. So biased it's not worth listening to.
Its hypocrisy
the brilliance of the premier league was over long ago, the foreign billionaire ownership of clubs has ruined the game and made some clubs soulless
The premier league are the 20 clubs, there is no distinction.
the other club backing City on this...hmmm Newcastle or Villa ???
You withdraw your 115 PSR charges, I withdraw my lawsuit. Outrageously distasteful, disgusting tactics and should add to the penalty handed out to them for the 115 charges.
Looks like City knows something the premier league doesn’t. 💸 to the correct individuals to rule in their favor.
To say: yeah we broke your rules, but it's your rules that are the problem is to say we know we'll get convicted unless we go on the offensive and turn the tables
The rules were changed when newcastle got took over to stop them been a power house it's not only city who think this as they mention at least other 8 clubs think the same
@@paulstones1451 I mean if city knows they didn’t do anything, why not show ur evidence? Why with all these delays? You know deep down city have done dodgy deals.
@deji9547 that's why they are taking the premier league to court lol 😆
All these other teams are jealous of Mancity's success on the pitch so they're binding together to make it difficult for them. They have every right to sue.
Presumed innocent , no such thing here , legal system is fckd, those who can those who can't break the law with consequences, prem rule book , what about abranovich?
Cheats saying rules are illegal and winning everything due to a money cheat. I would not like to play these jerks.😂
Jealousy is that you 😂😂
@@ChibuezeOgbonna-g2t Cheater is that you. 😄
@@kenjyue140 loser is that you
Don't worry. Even if you want, you can't play with them. I mean, your team full of professional footballers struggle against them, you do not even stand a chance. One tackle and you would be either in hospital or back to your mommy crying.
@@deepakpandey8240 What u talking about. U ok?
Embarrassing for City , they sure sound guilty
Says who? The journalist. You. Its the court's verdict that matters.
@silverstreet7984 Well, when you're accused of breaking the rules, then come out and say the rules are unfair before defending yourself in court
Comes across as very untrustworthy if you're innocent go to court and sue after. Because your case to sue is a lot stronger
Hope Man City smash this to the wind and scrap this illegal PSR nonsense!!
All the best Man City we are rooting for you from Newcastle Utd fans 😂 🖤🤍🖤🤍
Aramco ready and waiting
I say scrap ffp as my team are one of the only mugs that follow it tbh 😂
The audacity of City is beyond words!
They've been out on bail for 2 years and now they are crying racism! You couldn't make this up.
I tell you what, take City to Saudi and we will all be happy
Finally some litigation in this case 🍿
Bye bye Citeh
Bye bye your ass
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@@PredHunter83 been following for 4 years sit down
Well done City. Back you full time!
This is the end of mcfc honestly i thought they would clear their name but now i think every prem team should boycott them they are risking the entire premier league. No club is bigger than football
No wonder why pep drinks so much water 😂
Strip them of all their titles and put them back in division 2 if found guilty!!
The premier is nothing without Middle East money.