Beyond the Steins;Gate - A SciADV Retrospective

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  • Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
  • Just looking at the length of this video should explain why it’s taken me this long to upload again.
    I’d been meaning for ages to get into the Science Adventure series other than just Steins;Gate, and when I finally did I ended up discovering my new joint favourite Visual Novel series.
    I could’ve gone in depth and talked about every entry for an hour each, but instead this is more of a broad overview as to what they are, and what makes them so interesting.
    Link to that list of media I mentioned in the video: observeroftime.github.io/SciA...
    Timestamps:
    Part 1 (Intro) - 0:00
    Part 2 (ChäoS;HEAd) - 3:56
    Part 3 (Steins;Gate) - 12:30
    Part 4 (Steins;Gate 0) - 21:25
    Part 5 (ChäoS:Child) - 28:01
    Part 6 (Robotics;Notes) - 37:32
    Part 7 (Robotics;Notes DaSH) - 50:14
    Part 8 (Occultic;Nine, Anonymous;Code and Beyond) - 58:24
    Outro - 1:01:15
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  • @SuperOtakuKyo
    @SuperOtakuKyo 3 роки тому +121

    Glad this video exists, always hoped someone would do a sweeping overview of the entire SciADV series. Own all the SciADV games currently in English, but holding off for the Noah patch.

  • @zombiemanjames
    @zombiemanjames 3 роки тому +45

    This is the most underrated video I have ever seen.
    This has been a great guide for diving my head into the science adventures series and i really appreciate the detail put into this video.

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  3 роки тому +5

      Thanks! I can’t post regularly enough to satisfy the UA-cam algorithm, so it makes me super happy when I get comments like this!

  • @Istreakilaz
    @Istreakilaz 3 роки тому +64

    Welcome the side of the -Right Side- Other side of the Fan Divide. It's so glad to see others join in day by day.
    The Chaos games are my favourite of the series, with Child being my favorite , followed closely by NoAH. But the entire Franchise is just so good, it's hard to be picky. And regarding the plot summaries of the older yet translated games like, NoAH, i believe there was a really popular pastebin a few years ago, which did the summary really well, but was taken down later. Maybe some archive survived.

    • @ChrisGreenLink
      @ChrisGreenLink 3 роки тому +6

      I'd avoid the summary if I were you. NoAH is still a bit off, but it's certainly on the horizon.

    • @frankchau
      @frankchau Рік тому +2

      Lucky for you the patch is now out!

    • @Istreakilaz
      @Istreakilaz Рік тому +1

      @@frankchau I just found out as well, but thanks for the head up. Now everyone can enjoy the wacky takumi routes as well 👍

  • @sidneyconner9086
    @sidneyconner9086 3 роки тому +28

    I have been getting into the SciADV series (Discovered Robotics;Notes (the anime) first and after that tonal mindfuck I NEEDED MOOOOORE) but for as popular as I had perceived it to be, no one seems to have done an actual overview! So thank you SO SO SO much for this video!!!

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  3 роки тому +8

      Glad you found it! Not being able to find this sort of overview was part of why I made this video! (And I just really wanted to gush about the series)

    • @sidneyconner9086
      @sidneyconner9086 3 роки тому

      @@Tonsa Well it was incredibly well done and you have definitely gotten a new subscriber in me!

  • @AlexKatzenstein
    @AlexKatzenstein Рік тому +10

    Yay! Finally somebody who's favourite VN in the series is Chaos;Child!

  • @vincentbailon7007
    @vincentbailon7007 3 роки тому +33

    I just finished playing through Chaos; Child. I complained a lot about it playing through, but I'm sad that over. Even though some plot points didn't land for me, the tone was absolutely amazing! Nono's route is !

  • @davemoore7808
    @davemoore7808 3 роки тому +22

    Excellent overview of the series. Makes it much clearer for the layman to dig in. I wish there was one of these for the FATE series. It's very overwhelming.

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  3 роки тому +7

      I might tackle Fate one day, but if I do there'll be sections like Grand Order that I just avoid.

    • @iamlordapollo
      @iamlordapollo 3 роки тому +2

      Gigguk just released a 30 minute guide like this like a week ago. Not as in depth but it'll get you going. He also has a joke video from a couple years ago where he talks to himself as a new fan lol it's hilarious but also quite informative

    • @DriftingCloud_23
      @DriftingCloud_23 Рік тому +2

      In short terms nasuverse is what really matters. The differnt series in nasuverse fate are just the differnt routes in a visual novel
      Fate (2006) - saber route
      Ubw - rin route
      Heavens feel movies - sakura route
      Fate zero is just a Prequel to these 3 series
      Everything else is a spinoff and can be watched in any order

  • @Ceser1999
    @Ceser1999 3 роки тому +33

    Sees a 1h video.... Thinks "This is going to be a deep dive isnt it"
    Watches 1h video: "Oh crap its just the surface layer"

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  3 роки тому +11

      Steins;Gate alone could get a video twice as long!

  • @orboakin8074
    @orboakin8074 Рік тому +8

    I just started watching Steins; Gate today and OH BOY! It's one hell of an experience. The characters, the plot, the themes, the writing and the use of time travel (seriously, the best I have seen!) Seriously, I love it! And this video of yours has helped introduce me to the other shows and visual novels in the franchise and from the studio SciADV. Might buy the visual novels afterwards and I will definitely check out the rest of the Steins;Gate spin-offs and Chaos;Head series.

  • @RappingNinja
    @RappingNinja 3 роки тому +13

    This is the best SciAdv overview on the web. Thank you. (I freely admit that I loved the Chaos;Child anime ... but it was also my intro into that story.)

  • @AHH-phie
    @AHH-phie 3 роки тому +5

    Just finish watching the whole steins:gate series and was wondering what to watch next. But thanks to this video i have find out that theres more to this not just steins:gate so thank you for introducing me to this whole franchise

  • @aimez-vouslesmarsouins7505
    @aimez-vouslesmarsouins7505 3 роки тому +26

    PSA : this video shows late-game CGs, at least for Chaos;Head, and also explains some middle-to-late game stuff, though out-of-context.

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  3 роки тому +3

      None of the notable reveals and twists appear in this video. But if you are particularly averse to spoilers and want to go into everything completely fresh, there’s some timestamps in the description to skip various different sections.

  • @DavimaxPL
    @DavimaxPL 3 роки тому +6

    Great video! I'm really surprised that it's not more popular. I hope more people see it!
    Keep up the good work!

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  3 роки тому

      Thanks man, I'm glad you liked it!
      I don't upload too regularly (about once a month) but I like making this sort of video, so I'm aiming to make more stuff like this in future.

  • @ThePreciseClimber
    @ThePreciseClimber 2 роки тому +29

    I think you explained why not that many people go beyond the Steins;Gate anime pretty well - they made it so standalone, there's not much incentive to continue. The anime doesn't tease you with a bigger world out there.

    • @grapehool
      @grapehool Рік тому

      I haven't seen any other anime adaptations in SciAdv except steins gate, sg0 and the sg movie
      I have never played the VNs either.
      Where should I start :(

    • @ShinJack_
      @ShinJack_ Рік тому +2

      @@grapehool chaos head vn

    • @Wee-Ah-Boo
      @Wee-Ah-Boo Рік тому

      @@grapehool Same as the game order of this video

  • @wisemonkey6716
    @wisemonkey6716 3 роки тому +12

    It was 12 at night and i got jump scared by 43:10. Also im just genuinely overwhelmed by the amount of story and scifi bs you can get out of this series, not sure who keeps coming up with these crazy stories but it seems like its never ending.

  • @Tonsa
    @Tonsa  3 роки тому +13

    I just wanna quickly say my policy with “spoilers”. Talking in broad strokes about the overall plot of something I don’t really consider spoilers, otherwise it’d kinda be hard to talk about anything, so I won’t mark those sorts of spoilers.
    Regardless, in this video there aren’t really any major twists and reveals spoiled, outside of how Steins;Gate 0 links in.

  • @throwmeaname
    @throwmeaname 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent work! Really informative

  • @pr04ch6
    @pr04ch6 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this amazing video!

  • @Spnozilla
    @Spnozilla 10 місяців тому +1

    The idea of all the protagonists and the other characters meeting each other someday sounds super exciting! I did get the vibe that something like that may happen so I really hope it does

  • @houseatlanticmusicofficial7204
    @houseatlanticmusicofficial7204 2 роки тому +1

    This was awesome! Thank you!!

  • @bonchachan6061
    @bonchachan6061 Рік тому +4

    Watching this video made me realise that all these visual novels have finally got english translation and I can read them RIGHT NOW! I read Chaos;Head somewhere in 2013, the translation I had wasn't even complete, some chapters were in japanese. When Chaos;Child released I attempted to read it in original with my very limited knowledge of japanese but after spending several evenings reading text which amounts to 20-30 min of reading time I dropped the idea thinking it would be easier to wait 10 years for a translation and what do you know 10 years have passed and the translation is out, they even sell it on Steam (someone finally told the japanese publishers that it would be a good idea to sell their products outside Japan)

  • @AnimeSimp234
    @AnimeSimp234 Рік тому +13

    I've gotta be honest man. As good as Chaos Head Noah and Steins Gate and the rest of the scidav series are, for me at least, Chaos Child just blows them all out of the water. Not only is it the best scidav story, it's one of the best stories I've ever experienced period. Even if you don't end up liking Chaos Head Noah much, it's 100% worth it to read it just so that you can get to Chaos Child. Trust me.

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  Рік тому +3

      I keep flipping between Chaos;Child and Robotics;Notes for my favourite in the series. Though I love the general atmosphere and vibe of R;N, I'd probably say now Chaos;Child wins out as a whole package. I'm really looking forward to Anonymous;Code's English release later this year though!

    • @lvxix9686
      @lvxix9686 Рік тому

      I watched chaos child, it is shitt as fck, not satisfying as i watched steins gate & steins gate 0

    • @quplet
      @quplet 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@lvxix9686
      > Watched
      There's your problem, m8

    • @anomitas
      @anomitas 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@lvxix9686the anime is trash.

  • @FarhanHilmy
    @FarhanHilmy 3 роки тому +11

    YASSSS THIS IS AMAZINGGG 😣👌

  • @DrCasey
    @DrCasey Рік тому +3

    These were wonderful reviews. I'd like to see reviews in this vein for Occultic;Nine and Anonymous;Code sometime.

  • @Imnotevenhuman
    @Imnotevenhuman 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for this video

  • @kallistikaleid
    @kallistikaleid 2 роки тому +3

    Magnificent. As a huge S;G fan, and as someone who tried to watch and understand Occultic;Nine, this video was a delightful journey through the SciAdv universe.
    I suppose I am now convinced to watch/play the other titles someday.
    Never played a VN, other than the League of Legends event Spirit Blossom.

    • @grapehool
      @grapehool Рік тому +1

      Fellow Kindred enjoyer

  • @DarkSideOfMirror
    @DarkSideOfMirror 3 роки тому +11

    Great video! Chaos;head Noah is my favorite game (next to chaos;child) of the whole science adventure series and iam glad we finally get an english translation.
    Noah fixed all of my issues with the OG version and I really love the additional heroine routes. There is even new content in the common route and especially in the true ending. All of these changes are especially relevant for chaos;head love chu chu, which is a very funny "sequel".
    It established even more characterization for the heroines and is a nice addition for Noah.
    If you play/read chaos;head again, you can see a high mount of great foreshadowing in the entire game.
    Nearly every scene is is meaningful and well paced in my opinion.
    I definitely love all of the visual novels in the science adventure series, but robotics;notes Dash is the "weakest" entry in my opinion. It's still a good vn but I didn't enjoy it as much as the previous entrys.
    However, the last 3 hours are worth it.
    I hope they will fix Occult;nine.

    • @Istreakilaz
      @Istreakilaz 3 роки тому +4

      Honestly! The Sena and Kozue route were honest to god, mind chillingly good! And the new new Rimi route, with though not exactly good, really got under the skin and fleshed out her perspective on the story.
      I'm looking forward to the soon the release fan tr patch that CoZ will be dropping. Hopefully i can make much more sense on some of the more difficult to understand scenes.. like whoa, the mind trickery was too good.

  • @migz101199
    @migz101199 2 роки тому +1

    Spectacular video
    I found myself getting into the rabbithole as well and I started with chaos;head anime
    Im deciding if I should read the VN

  • @sebastianyanez3098
    @sebastianyanez3098 11 місяців тому

    Today, looking for vn´s in the steam sale, I stumbled upon Chaos;Child and tought it looked good, so I readed the opinions to see if it was indeed good... and there I saw that it was somehow connected to Steins;Gate and other vn´s! So I had to look it up and ended up here, great video man, was really worth it! 👍

  • @tacofitness1876
    @tacofitness1876 6 місяців тому +2

    >even if you can't relate to him (takumi)
    about that...

  • @Bonnie-wk9ze
    @Bonnie-wk9ze Місяць тому

    Need more summaries like this for the sciADV series

  • @eyeballish3563
    @eyeballish3563 8 місяців тому +2

    49:40 takumi would be around like 27 years old now and he's still got a seira pfp 💀

  • @zapatitosonic8975
    @zapatitosonic8975 3 роки тому +3

    I’m almost caught with the main SciADV titles (not counting both chaos love Chu chu)- I hope to see chaos child on switch since I only own a switch to have access for the VN and I have hopes for chaos Head Noah official translation but only time will tell, as well as steins gate LPB since it’s only PS4 and steam exclusive, it’s worth investing your time in these amazing titles, I really enjoy watching this video since it talks about almostly everything canon or non canon, and its overall entertaining to rewatch

  • @Dappis
    @Dappis 2 роки тому +4

    Right Sider pilled

  • @aflack482
    @aflack482 4 місяці тому

    Steins Gate was the first anime in the SciADV series I watched and I fell in love with it after finishing all the Steins Gate seasons I dove into robotics notes and never actually realized it was in the same universe until the end, the chaos series I could never actually get into and due to me not really liking visual novel games (just not my cup of tea per say) I probably never will, but either way really informative and underrated analysis

  • @jjmini
    @jjmini 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for the time and care you put into this video. Steins;Gate has always been extremely important to me but like so many others I avoided the Chaos games and Robotic;notes games. I was ALWAYS one click away from buying either of them but the highs of steins;gate series are hard to match so I always passed them up. Well....its been a long time since steins;gate and I miss the writing, charm and overall world of the series but want something new. With ANONYMOUS;CODE coming out it really made me reconsider how I feel towards the science adventure series. It seems like the entire umbrella of games are full of quality writing and interesting concepts that I'm absolutely in love with. I feel ignorant for skipping over these games for so long but I'm 10 hours into A;C already and have the Chaos double pack coming today as well. Your video really helped me get a greater idea of the series and made it a much less nebulous concept as simply seeing "science adventure" and knowing things are kinda related to s;g never really sat well with me

    • @jjmini
      @jjmini 7 місяців тому

      As an update I've finished Chaos;Head, Chaos;Child, and am about 75 percent done with Robotic;Notes. I said it before but I've been a huge fan of steins;gate for almost 10 years now and skipped over all these other entries like a fool. Head was brilliant even if the MC is a bit of a degen but holy shit Chaos;Child left me emotionally messed up for a week or two after the endings. I never thought something could reach the highs of Steins;Gate for me but Child managed to be equal to it if not surpass it in some ways. Robotic;Notes had me a little worried because everyone says how its a bit more mellow than the other games but R;N is up there for me in terms of characters, setting, and overall pace. I absolutely love the characters and as a huge fighting game enthusiast Kaitos little FGC quips tickle me in all the right spots. I genuinely love R;N in ways I didnt think I would and just finished phase 10 while taking my sweet time with it. I look forward to the sequel even if it misses the mark for so many. Once I finish DaSH Ill be done with all the mainline entries and will sadly have a giant hole in my heart but the last 4 months with this series has been an absolute pleasure and joy

  • @gamergaming7007
    @gamergaming7007 Рік тому +5

    I really understand why people don't talk about S;G zero. but they can't deny it, it's not just another timeline, another route. S;G zero explains why Okarin got a video message at the beginning of S;G, which later gives him a chance to get to steins;gate timeline. It's a part of the story, even if it's too hard to understand/ Still good video tho

  • @clovermite
    @clovermite Рік тому +2

    38:19 A bit of an unfortunate year to write it in seeing as 2020 is the year that COVID made such a huge international impact, and there was no way for anyone to forecast that out in 2012

  • @pen2660
    @pen2660 2 роки тому +1

    Since a double pack of ch and cc is coming, a reboot would be a great idea to promote it,cuz I for sure will I hype it up lmao

  • @le563
    @le563 2 місяці тому

    I really want to get into this expanded universe, but I've got so many things on the go that I'll just have to rewatch Steins;Gate

  • @awildcommenter7240
    @awildcommenter7240 Місяць тому +1

    Just wanna say Akiho is best girl out of science adventure series

  • @awildcommenter7240
    @awildcommenter7240 Рік тому +1

    Honestly the other visual novels are highly underrated

  • @AlphaOblivion7
    @AlphaOblivion7 Рік тому +1

    I can't believe they never patched the A-pose glitch in R;ND's switch version

  • @cyanlos01
    @cyanlos01 2 роки тому +2

    25:52 -- (SPOILERS) It's been a while since I've read that story, but isn't the identity of that attacker known to be Reyes, even if you "don't" watch the anime? I thought it was fairly obvious, considering she's primary villain of the route.

  • @DABUNGINATOR
    @DABUNGINATOR Рік тому +1

    This is quite the complicated series, isn't it? I have trouble remembering all the details.

  • @drpleaserespect
    @drpleaserespect 2 роки тому +1

    50:00 (Spoilers) About the Noah IV Devices
    the Noah IV a inferior version of Noah II.
    Since iirc the Noah IV unlike Noah II can only do mass delusions via Visual Rebuilding but not actually Real-boot anything.

  • @foxzyx
    @foxzyx 2 роки тому +2

    The SciAdv series is the best Science fiction/ Visual novel series in my opinion and people only talk about the anime of Steins;Gate don’t get me wrong I love the Steins;Gate anime but if people think that’s really good they should play the other Visual novels but I get some people can’t play 30+ hour visual novels so they turn to the anime adaptions since the anime adaptions for Chaos;Child Chaos;Head and Robotics;Notes aren’t very good they give up on the SciAdv series writing it off forever I think since visual novels aren’t as big in American most people won’t play it and most likely watch the anime instead so I think that if the animes were better the series would be so much bigger but that’s just my opinion

  • @bonchachan6061
    @bonchachan6061 Рік тому

    I really like that SciADV is set in the real world but with fictional elements that exist hidden from populace. It's a very cool setting because it makes your imagination work by presenting various funny ideas like "what if this big organisation was actually X" or "what if this problem in society was caused by Y" and it makes you ask questions and reevaluate your view on the world. I find these settings very interesting but the only settings of this kind that come to mind are World of Darkness, SciADV and Nasuverse which is a shame, there's a lot of unused potential.

  • @grapehool
    @grapehool Рік тому

    I have seen all the steins gate anime adaptations (including ovas and movies)
    i wanna get into SciAdv(the best version of the experience preferable) .
    How should i go about it?

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  Рік тому +1

      Unless you strictly want to stick with anime, I’d say your best bet is to play the Visual Novels in release order. So based on ones with English releases: ChäoS;Head Noah, Steins;Gate, Robotics;Notes Elite, ChäoS;Child, Steins;Gate 0, Robotics;Notes DaSH (there’s some smaller side games, but these are the most notable ones)
      If you want the best experience, play on PC (I believe all are on Steam, and don’t require a powerful computer) and use the committee of zero (Google search and you can find them) patches for a more consistent translation between games. Unfortunately their patch for ChäoS;Head Noah isn’t quite done yet, but it should be done soon.
      As for other games, I didn’t really cover Occultic;Nine or Anonymous;Code in the video, the first still doesn’t have an English release (I believe they’re probably waiting for the enhanced version) while Anonymous;Code has one coming later this year.

  • @happyvirus6590
    @happyvirus6590 Рік тому

    3:21 what in Gleipnir is this?

  • @leacwpc
    @leacwpc 2 роки тому +2

    Is there some video like this but WITH spoilers? i don't wanna play the games but i wanna know it all.

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  2 роки тому +1

      Depends on how much detail you want. No video I know of, but watching the anime adaptations will largely cover the same plot (at least the plot of the main routes) so if you want a condensed version, that’s probably your best bet.

  • @SparkyTM
    @SparkyTM 2 роки тому +2

    any way to play chaos;head in english on android? or on pc but in english?

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  2 роки тому +3

      www.kirikiribasara.com/2020/06/20/info-how-to-buy-chaoshead-and-play-it-in-english/
      This link has the guide I used to play install it in English on PC. Currently the enhanced version, Chaos;Head Noah, isn’t available in English, but later this year it’s getting a Switch port, as well as a (English) fan port to PC that’s been in the works for a while. If you have a Switch, I’d suggest waiting for that one to come out as not only would it support the official release, but will have a lot more content than just the base PC game.

    • @SparkyTM
      @SparkyTM 2 роки тому +2

      @@Tonsa wow thanks for the fast reply, and what about the other games? are any of them playable on mobile?

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  2 роки тому +3

      A fair few have Japanese Android ports, but I hear from people who've played them that they're full of bugs. If you do really want to play on Android I think there might be an English patch for Steins:Gate, but as far as I'm aware there's on official English release on mobile.

  • @ralfsstuff
    @ralfsstuff 10 місяців тому +1

    It's weird. Stein's;Gate is probably my favourite thing ever but I've never even considered playing the others aside from Robotics;Notes.
    Mostly because of giant robots and Daru.

    • @ceruleanchrodt2293
      @ceruleanchrodt2293 10 місяців тому

      Really? It's not usual to see someone who likes giant robots outside of mecha/robot communities.

    • @anomitas
      @anomitas 5 місяців тому +1

      Chaos;child is better than steins gate.

    • @user-dg8gw4ce8v
      @user-dg8gw4ce8v 4 місяці тому

      @@anomitasbased

  • @cyanlos01
    @cyanlos01 2 роки тому +6

    Wait, what about Children's Collapse manga?! I think that's canon. It tries to explain Mio's story, and her connections with Kurisu.

  • @brendansmith6035
    @brendansmith6035 6 місяців тому

    I’m just a little confused. Are Chaos Head and Chaos Child action series or not? I can’t tell with how much these swords keep popping in and out.

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  6 місяців тому

      While they have action elements, I would not describe them as action series. (The games themselves are pure visual novel through and through) being more mystery and drama focused than action. Though some routes have more action than others.

  • @ddgamer2d698
    @ddgamer2d698 11 місяців тому

    Ok in my defence I didn't even know about robotics notes and also choes head is my favourite

  • @imprudentdev1503
    @imprudentdev1503 6 місяців тому

    Hearing the expectations for New World and A;C now... jeez

  • @marocat4749
    @marocat4749 6 місяців тому

    Its probably because steins gate is most within the genre they are in? And not as out there, as yeah time travel show, its kinda expected to be part of the course, if well executed.

  • @ix3282
    @ix3282 2 роки тому +1

    I actually saw Chaos;head first lol I watched steins gate because of Chaos head

    • @grapehool
      @grapehool Рік тому +1

      thats so bizzare to me. you're so lucky

  • @ChrisGreenLink
    @ChrisGreenLink 3 роки тому +6

    Heya! Just had this video linked to me, and anything involving my favorite series is an instant watch for me.
    Having watched it now, I want to say that you did a great job laying everything out, and I really appreciate such a comprehensive guide to the SciADV series, but there *are* a few things I'd like to say beyond that.
    To start off-just to clarify, Steins;Gate 0 and DaSH aren't actually mainline entries. They are fandiscs. The only mainline entries in the series are Chaos;Head NoAH, Steins;Gate, Robotics;Notes, Chaos;Child, and Occultic;Nine. Yeah, last one's counted as mainline now, for whatever reason. Chiyomaru really wants to push it, I suppose, no matter how little sense it makes.
    Second, I saw that you were playing on console, and then you mentioned it further in, and that's pretty unfortunate for a couple reasons, especially for the original R;NE. The translations for this series have always been fairly dubious in quality-so much so that my team at the Committee of Zero has released patches for every single main entry-and while the R;NE TL is edited well for the most part, it's the worst translation we've got so far. There's a ton of issues with characterization, butchering of main series references and consistency, censorship, and more. I was thinking of putting together some sort of article to list all the big changes made in a comprehensive way for people who already played the game, so if I get that project done, I'll link it here. Only issue with that is that a *lot* was changed, and I mean a *lot.* Almost a third of the game's lines were changed in some way, so the only real way to experience that is to replay the game. As for now, here's the page for the patch itself. sonome.dareno.me/projects/rne-steam.html
    If you've got any more questions on this front or want to know more, feel free to ask and I'll do what I can.
    Third, in regards to the S;G anime bit where you said they knew what to cut, I would agree except for two things-one of which you mentioned.
    *Spoilers for S;G VN*
    I would say that how they changed Mr. Braun was far for the worse, and removes a lot of his characterization. In the VN, he was just an everyman way over his own head, and he wanted to *protect* Moeka, but in the anime, they have him... shoot her? It's such a nonsense change in the plot that makes no sense for his character. It just serves to make the plot more digestible by instantly making him not "a caring cog in a chain" but "a 2-dimensional murdering cog in a chain." And then, by removing this, they remove Nae's motivations, which is the part you mentioned in the "they knew what to cut" sequence.
    Nae's actions are incredibly important to both the VN and 0, as not only are they mentioned, but the tension present for them is supposed to be a constant looming threat throughout the series. The fact that everyone has Reading Steiner to some capacity means that Nae, while she didn't do those specific actions on the Steins Gate worldline, does retain some memories, and that's a BIG source of the tension in Robotics;Notes ELITE. The game hams it up too, with lines such as "Her eyes weren't smiling," being said constantly. The rest of the series loses out by not having this scene. The anime was cutting ties to the series, yes, so perhaps that's why they made the Nae change, and it probably snowballed into the Braun one too as they needed *some* way to kill Moeka now that Nae was gone, but it's just... messy.
    It doesn't help that it's far less interesting and relevant to the plot, as it's no longer about Okabe's actions causing rifts and problems he can never take back that will continue to haunt him, but just something he happened to get involved in. In the VN, Okabe will now be haunted by a literal living, murderous reminder of his actions, but it's just erased in the anime, and it will forever bother me that they cut it.
    Lastly, and this is the big one: spoilers.
    *Spoilers for the entire SciADV series, excluding O;N below.*
    Your spoiler policy stated in the video says you don't spoil things from beyond the midpoint of the game. You then go on to show CGs from far past that point for every game, including untranslated ones like NoAH.
    All right, maybe you just don't consider out-of-context CGs spoilers, which seems to be the case from your comments. I don't agree with that, but I can see the logic behind it. Part of the issue with that though comes when you supply your viewers with ample context, such as "a pretty infamous Nae scene" while showing a pretty telling CG of the scene in question. This scene takes place in Chapter 9 of Steins;Gate, which is far past the halfway mark.
    Okay, maybe it's just plot reveals past the halfway mark that you consider spoilers. Your pinned comment seems to say that, omitting the halfway part that's mentioned in the video. This is also something I don't agree with, as it ruins some very interesting reveals that happen early on in each of the games, such as Nae being in Robotics;Notes. Both I and a few friends had crazed reactions to her reveal in the end of Phase 3, so I know that it's a cool moment that really shouldn't be spoiled. Regardless, I know you mentioned Nae's role a lot in your video, such as her relationship with Daru, so I get why you employed this rule.
    Only problem is when you start to break your own rule.
    Your Robotics;Notes section has a large part in it where you talk about things that happen in the final few phases of the game. Talking about the character relationships and how the game deals in fake news is fine and provides ample hooks for the viewer to play the games. I don't have an issue with this. What I *do* take issue with is talking about Noah IV. Why would you do this? Why would you spoil one of the game's coolest reveals and biggest connections to the rest of the series after *specifically* saying in the comments you don't spoil major reveals and major twists? Hell, you even provide actual gameplay of certain entries from far beyond the halfway point, such as with Robotics;Notes where you show footage of Phases way past the halfway mark, all of which have several lines read before moving on. This is particularly damaging with things such as Phase 7, where you show Frau in the bathtub and have several lines read that talk about the state of things. This ruins a fairly powerful, shocking moment in the game. You also have footage from Sawada talking in Phase 11.
    It doesn't stop there, either. In the DaSH section, you spoil the final route in the game that only unlocks after doing everything. You spoil that it involves the rest of the S;G members, including both Okabe starting off the route and Maho later in. This is *far* past the midway point of the game, and these characters were only involved in tweeps, not the main plot. Once again, why? These are reveals that are most fun to experience in game. I'm fine with you having a spoiler policy that doesn't agree with mine, as long as you stick to it and I can warn people how to watch the video while avoiding the things I consider spoilers.
    That's everything.
    Sorry for being a bit hard on you and your video that clearly had a lot of effort put into it, but these things really bothered me. You clearly love the series a lot, as do I, and I still immensely appreciate you making this video, even if I had a few issues with it. I'm glad you enjoyed the series I love so much, and I hope you look forward to the Chaos;Head NoAH translation that's in the near future.
    Take care now.

  • @Cneqq
    @Cneqq 3 роки тому +2

    This video deserves tens of thousands of views and thousands of likes, extremely overrated lol This series was in dire need of a single source that explains to people why SciADV is.

    • @Blurro
      @Blurro 3 роки тому +3

      You mean underrated

  • @heartunderblade334
    @heartunderblade334 Рік тому

    IR2 Equation, Sono me dare no me? made the franchise alive. Cant wait for NOAH EN release.

  • @TheWolfgangGrimmer
    @TheWolfgangGrimmer 3 роки тому

    "It's a shame they can't all be canon"
    Even Frau's, with its ridiculous(the bad kind) plot premise? I had the misfortune of stumbling upon that one first, and for the longest time, I expected the rest of RND's content to be just as irritating. ...it was not.

  • @springchickena1
    @springchickena1 5 місяців тому

    hey, Tonsa, you know the secret?

  • @Zeroyue622
    @Zeroyue622 3 місяці тому

    All I want to say about 0 is Maho best girl

  • @TallTapper
    @TallTapper 11 місяців тому

    i like cars they are cute

  • @foreveraweeb3514
    @foreveraweeb3514 10 місяців тому +1

    I personally liked 0 more than the original steins gate anime.

  • @miaomiiao
    @miaomiiao 2 роки тому

    Bashing zero? Take your dislike fool man.

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  2 роки тому +1

      I’d hardly say calling it a 9/10 is bashing it. I really like Zero (as I say in the video).

  • @iamlordapollo
    @iamlordapollo 3 роки тому +1

    you seriously like chaos;child more than steins;gate?!?!?!? blasphemy!!!!!

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  3 роки тому +4

      For the Visual Novel at least, for the anime Steins;Gate is easily my favourite whereas Chaos;Child’s anime was awful

    • @iamlordapollo
      @iamlordapollo 3 роки тому

      @@Tonsa that's crazy man. I've played all of them too and steins gate is head and shoulders above the rest. Thats like the one thing the entire anime community agrees on lol that steins gate is the best IP ever conceived. But your totally entitled to your opinion.

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  3 роки тому +3

      Oh yeah, I can totally see why Steins;Gate is the most beloved entry in the series, and I still love it. But Chaos;Child really hit me with some of its themes. Though I do wonder if the fact that it was the only one that I read before seeing the anime adaptation is part of why it became my favourite.

    • @Blurro
      @Blurro 3 роки тому +6

      @@iamlordapollo the "anime community" doesn't really read VNs though so obviously Steins is way more popular having gotten a good adaptation

    • @iamlordapollo
      @iamlordapollo 3 роки тому

      @@Blurro ehh thats not as true as you might think. The sheer number of discussions about steins gate from a UA-cam search with just the title is staggering. In fact, alot of the community that watches anime more or less exclusively play the sciadv vns explicitly because steins gate introduced them to it. The nature of world lines makes fans want to seek out every detail and find other forms if media to scratch that itch. I can link several videos of fans who played chaos head/child and robotics notes simply to look for the steins gate references. Which is as you said because it got a great adaptation. But fate/stay night also contributed a great deal to anime fans crossing over to visual novels. Similar to the concept of death note or dragonball getting fans into manga or sword art online getting them into light novels. Any great masterpiece will have fans look to the source material for more content.
      (Not saying Sao is a masterpiece lmao i think you get my point)

  • @assbitchfuck6927
    @assbitchfuck6927 Рік тому +1

    I hear that the Nintendo switch chaos head noah has a glitch at ending but my question is this trolling I haven't finished the game so I don't know

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately it’s real and is right before the final credits, I’ve heard that a patch is incoming, but it’s been nearly a month since the game released and the glitch is still there. Overall the Noah release is pretty poor, with a rough translation and glitches still in the final product, which is a shame cos it’s a great story.

  • @KittysInu
    @KittysInu Рік тому +1

    Chaos;Head and Robotics;Notes are just tied by the shared universe, theres really no connection besides forum usernames of other characters and some reoccurring characters in Robotics. Its very understandable to like one and not others (most were visual novels anyway)

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  Рік тому +1

      While both certainly can be enjoyed standalone, the connections do run a bit deeper than that. Beyond just the cameos from Takumi and the Geji-nee/Sister Centipede connection, there's also technology introduced in Chaos;Head that is vital to the climax of Robotics;Notes.
      That's not to say if you like one you'll definitely like the other, while they are made by the same people and share a similar writing style, they're tonally very different, but if you've already played Chaos;Head you'll have a greater appreciation for some of the details seen in Robotics;Notes.
      Same applies to nearly any 2 VNs in the series, they can all be enjoyed standalone, but when put together add up to a greater whole.

    • @KittysInu
      @KittysInu Рік тому

      @@Tonsa im more speaking to their relation to Steins;Gate, as its what the video was titled to be about (though I never made it to any steins;gate content as I don't care for the Robotics;Notes or Chaos;Head)

    • @Tonsa
      @Tonsa  Рік тому

      Even then the same would still apply (talking about the visual novels, since all of these began as VNs before anime, and as I say in the video as anime Steins;Gate is the only one that works well as a replacement for the VN)
      Technology from Chaos;Head is important to Steins;Gate and how time travel works. Robotics;Notes and Chaos;Child are set after Steins;Gate, but both of these feature actual characters from Steins;Gate in important roles, with Robotics;Notes DaSH going so far as Daru being playable.
      The video is titled “beyond the steins;gate” because it is about things that are “beyond” it (i.e. the series as a whole) so is more intended for viewers who have seen or played Steins;Gate and are curious to learn about the rest of the series.

    • @KittysInu
      @KittysInu Рік тому +1

      @@Tonsa thats why I said there were reoccurring characters, though the stories don't have much overlap they will always share some things just to tie them to the same universe (the 300 being the *real* villains, though hardly present most times and nonexistent in some cases).
      But someone could play/watch any of the three titles, in any order, and not miss anything important. They're very independent of eachother, hence why I heavily favor Steins;Gate and don't care much for the other two. I think they nailed everything in Steins;Gate. The characters were well written, the tone at the beginning amplifies the hard shift in the story later on, the science fiction elements are both ridiculous and perfectly executed. Ridiculous in that it was a microwave, perfect in every way it affected the world and the people inhabiting it
      I guess it comes down to personal preference for me then in how the information is structured and presented. Starting off heavy in Steins;Gate and working towards the Chaos and Robotics is what I expected, since there are many who haven't played any of the visual novels but watched the anime.
      And that's just down to preference. I also didn't see that this was a Science Adventure retrospective, but thats on me for half reading a title. I clicked on it thinking it was a Steins;Gate retrospective and its place in the Science Adventure universe, sorry about that.
      And while I'm sure that stuff is included in the video, its different than it being the main focus of it.

    • @kyro8581
      @kyro8581 9 місяців тому

      ​@@KittysInuI'm so confused, are you complaining that the video isn't what you misread the title to be? Also just because the games aren't completely connected in every way doesn't mean that they're lesser. There are plenty of people that agree that Chaos;Head NoAH, Robotics;Notes, and Chaos;Child are contenders for best titles in the series. If you don't want to read the VNs then that's fine but dismissing them simply because they aren't direct sequels and prequels is very silly

  • @assbitchfuck6927
    @assbitchfuck6927 Рік тому +2

    Steins gate elite is garbage taking the original artwork and replacing it with the anime artwork