I made my modular performance synth simpler & more fun
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- Let's hang out and I'll talk you through my live modular synth, as it is now: How it works, why I did what I did, what I think are potential issues, and what's potentially successful. 🙌 If you find this useful please consider supporting on Patreon: / mylarmelodies
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro and Caveats!
01:13 What's in the case/Overview
4:26 How I'm Gate Sequencing
14:43 The moral of the story
17:17 How I'm Pitch Sequencing
25:07 Voices/Modulation Explained
31:38 Why No Drums?
Lovely. I could watch these personal case walk-throughs all day, every day. Lots of good ideas to take in. 👏👏👏
Same
Yep me too
“you’re much dumber on stage than you are at home” - yep, pretty accurate in my experience 😂
Ha, defo mine!
I feel pretty dumb at home, so maybe I’m not ready for gigs….
I’m actually most confident in my Imposter Syndrome…..
Beautiful sequence at 20minutes !!!!!!!!!!!!
hahaha ohhh man, is this true. Muscle memory only when you're in the spotlight! Design your patch completely ahead of time 😉
I'd ike to add, that your Gear is a lot dumber on stage too!
@spenzasequenza This reminds me of something I didn’t mention in the vid and should: Get some narrow tape and label your switches and dial destinations and channels etc - obvs with enough practice it all becomes muscle memory, but it’s priceless to help learn and to help avoid delays onstage if you know WTF you actually set up. Also: this would allow you to signpost/annotate potential disasters in your case, such as the power supply with a 9V INPUT, which I accidentally plugged my 15V OUTPUT into onstage, causing it to smoke, and half my case to die half an hour before the set. Labelling onstage shit is sensible. Chemical Brothers do it!
Definitely for better! Really like these live setup walk throughs. The more people share different ideas and setups, the more little things that are great ideas to pick up. Thanks!
I'm happy to see Calibr8or at the center of such a compact and effective performance configuration! ⚡😁
Ahh it’s great, thanks for all your work on Phazerville - FYI all this is the firmware page for the O_C I’m using: github.com/djphazer/O_C-Phazerville
The live performance brain fog does get less, the more you perform live. But, I think it's best if the performer is so thoroughly familiar and well practiced that they basically enter a state where the performance just 'happens'. Can be an amazing feeling to be so in the zone of performing, that you only realise and come back to your judgemental self right at the moment the concert ends. Makes all the prep worthwhile. With tech, someone once recommended to me to always have a really simple backup system. That could be something like a live set you can pull out of your hat. Like a sample driven set you can quickly bring to life on say an SP-404, Digitakt, MPC, Octatrack, TR-8, Polyend, tiny laptop or something. You will very rarely need to use it. But the fact that it's there settles your nerves about catastrophic failure in the main system. The most important point of professionalism being ... the show must go on.
Oh always have a backup plan. ...and i've had cases where we have changed up pieces later because we had to resort to some backup piece of equipment and decided it actually sounded pretty good...different..but good.
Brill. You’ve always been the most inspiring chap. So many ideas flood in everytime after watching. I feel you need to make a module. A new grids style gate generator? Yes!
OOFT. Thanks m8. Yeah it would be a thing wouldn't it? I'll think about it, as I do kinda pine for a dream gate sequencer which I don't yet have...it's something I need to ponder.
Do what Jamie Lidell says ❤@@mylarmelodies
But seriously, that is an excellent idea.
Thanks for this video. My pet peeve has been that so many live modular system videos just have a sequencer patch that can basically create super busy 8-16 step sequences (every step on, of course) that wouldn't necessarily result in something that most people would want to listen to for longer than 5 minutes at a party. I've also tried to create a system where you could create a 4-step sequence and then modify it to become a, say, sparse 2 bar loop + 2 bar variation.
Yes exactly this! As someone else pointed out here, using 4 step sequencers to control the CV inputs of gate modules can be a good one. Or using VCAs/Sequential Switches to chop it up. Grids is uniquely good at it, big though it is. This is something I need to do: ua-cam.com/video/Eex-iLuUdiw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=MichaelForrest
Yes! The Doepfer A-115 can do this, it stacks square waves and can create complex clocks to slow down sequences in a musically interesting way.
Nice case! Another great way to get more out of euclidean sequencers is to combine two sequences with a logic module.
This is about the right sized case for live. Beyond everything starts to get overwhelming. I really dig the dual Euclidian circles!
Incredibly helpful to see your latest case set up, hear your learnings, analysis and thought process - thanks so much for sharing 🙏🏻
Swapping the 2nd and 4th knob on my ms22 helped me so much. makes the whole thing more playable
The pads and stabs on this are sublime...Great work man.
You just have the hang of getting cool stuff out of pretty much anything. I really dig that. Still learning a lot from you. Keep on groovin'! 👍
Thanks!! The ear defo is key of course, been dicking about making music (for better or worse) for more of my life than I haven’t! 🤪
Great video, and it’s been a pleasure watching your live kit transform in different form factors and concept. 15:36 This is a super deep topic. I agree. I feel like if you only wanted to easily get amazing results live, you’d end up playing on Ableton or Octatrack (or in my case, Bitwig+MPC). I feel like, people who are going out of their way to play their modular live are willing to go the extra mile to do the actual synthesis of every element in real-time.. and doing that absolutely means sacrificing some of the ease of performance.
It’s a very delicate balance right? Personally I make very detailed kinda IDMy kind of stuff. So even though i use my modular to create many of the sounds, the structure of the music itself kind of demands I use other tools in order to even be able to play it live at all without showing up with a huge heap of boxes! Which is not to say, of course, that i just hit play on Bitwig and wave my hands around 😉 far from it. Lots of realtime stuff happening in both MPC and Bitwig. But every person’s musical choices will, to some extent, have to determine what ‘easily get amazing results’ means, in their case.
This is why I am equally respectful of a performer who plays entirely from Ableton and nails their concept (as long as they are actually playing not checking their email!), as I am of a performer creating completely improvised modular music. To me, it’s all good, as long as there is genuine performance happening and an energy flow going from the performer to the audience and back. That feedback loop is what creates the magic of a live performance, not the kit. If you’re truly sending to the audience and they’re receiving and sending back to you, that’s the key.
Thanks for another thoughtful video, you’re a positive influence for folks trying to grapple with the ‘why’ not just the ‘how.’ Also thanks for putting up with my long comment folks, i’m a nerd. 😉
It would be really funny if this means an updated suggested systems techno rack based on THIS system instead of your previous, but this video is so chock full of useful information that I don’t think I’ll be needing it anytime soon.
Enjoying the podcasts so far 👍
Thank you for this great video! It's tremendously helpful and inspiring, although I feel like I need to watch it multiple times to actually grasp and understand the concepts fully. It's really invaluable advice.
Cheers, Alex! That was really helpful! Glad I'm doing some of these things already! I must be learning something!
your videos are always inspirational. I’d love a video on how you use grids and keep it varied!
Inspiring as always! I had always just set up effects on one voice and never a send but as I see how simple your setup is for that I’ve gotta try it. I have at least one channel of my 3xmia that I could use for that. Next patch! Thanks again! Very cool to see how trimmed down your live case is from the 2 monster cases.
Great sounding rack, fx sound really nice!
Always nice to see someone else who felt the need to add Terpischore to their Pam. Lovely case, has some mild similarity with the case I am currently practicing with to plan for open mics this summer!
Absolutely brilliant stuff thank you!
I reached for my glow stick just after 20 mins - a little top rave tune going on there!
Great walkthrough! You always have interesting patch ideas. 😀
Thanks and dang, likewise!!
Your live case is a lovely work of functional abstract art. I keep trying to make my own Sealegs in VCV Rack - it is such an awesome sounding module!
Beautiful stuff 🎛🚀
I really love these rig walkthroughs, they're extremely valuable insight to interesting live case design! I'd love to know how your mixer works in more detail, I've been playing with using a matrix mixer with the Instruo Carn as a lovely send mixer with a master compressor using the Carn's master volume CV.
Absolutely awesome video
Another great vid. Ace! Totally agree with outsourcing the drums, ive just moved over to a roland tr6s, small enough to go in thebphysical case, and it just frees uo sooo much head space to be creative on the analogue side. Plus 1 mate.
ooohhhh. two euclidean circles, that's class. i've been wanting a second since i got my first one a few years ago. you may have just sold me on finally grabbing a second.
Thanks, this gave me a lot to think about! Also 30:40 really put me in the mood for some old Orbital, maybe Snivilisation...
I forget, have you played around with an Acid Rain Maestro before? It takes up a decent amount of rack real estate so I can see where it isn't always ideal, but just got one myself and it's fantastic for switching things up on the fly and having a number of modulation options for live performance available at the push of a button (or two).
currently have a monster patch set up, but too much to take out on the road, so will be watching this with interest
I used to play with my friend's system with a euclidean circles in it and I loved patching the output into the "tempo" in of the erbeverb to get weird broken delays and verbs
I recently felt the same way about Euclidean patterns as well. Drum jamming, and I get the feel of "is that all? Where's Grids?". Neat idea to further chop them up with additional gates.
I took a lot of inspiration from your vids when building my first racks. I have a little 42hp, 4U case built into a knockoff pelican case filled with percussion elements. It has an after later micro grids, a 2hp eculidean seq, kickall, a couple clock dividers, mosaic hi hat, Erica pico drum2, Erica drum mixer, 2hp comb filter, a bernoulli gate, and intellijel 1u filter. With CV from an external controller, it's super playable for drum jams.
That calibrator is awesome.
I love this walkthrough so much, except now I've spent 3 days trying to figure out how to fit a precision adder and a Dnipro Dot into my systems. Cheers!
Seeing the Atlantis is like coming home. Early warp/rephlex vibes is bliss.
You are the acid master Mylar! Sage advice on dumbing it down when preforming live modular!
Need a mixtape of drumless grooves
Thanks for that, some ideas I'll be borrowing :D I like to be able to dial in randomisation after Euclidean sequencers to spice up the rhythms.
I think you would love the Melodicer for instant button press riff/melody generation. It just always spits out musical loops, amazes me to this day and it can do legato, short notes, note ties etc.
Wise words man. Have you tried the Shakmat Knights Gallop for doing the gates? It’s kind of exactly what you want. Super fun and easy to play, does 2 complimentary channels of gates and has a few modes including revised-Euclidean and anti-Euclidean which are both more curated maps in a Grids stylee 👍
great video! very inspiring! I dont really understand how you transpose two separate sequences (for the atlantis and braids) the precision adder just mixes the two sequences right? and the euclidean goes into braids. are both sequences going into the 4robots?
It’s a good thing that you grow and change because the modular synth doesn’t. It’s a machine! Amazing content sir mylarmelodies. God bless you. Jesus bless this creator.
Sealegs is.... A winner. The color on the BBD for swells is my favorite new thing.
That’s my fave colour on it!!
I feel what you’re saying about euclidian! It can be really hard to seamlessly on the fly grab another euclidian rhythm that works with the rest of the patch. I have been messing with sequencing the number of events on a euclidian sequencer though. Say if you have a sequencer running at a div 4 of the clock and then have the 4 or 8 step sequence going into the euclidian sequencer, all of a sudden you have more control over what parts of the beat are more dense and which are sparse or empty. I’m meaning to do a video specifically on it but need to drill down into it a bit more. Highly worth a try if you have a small 4 step sequencer somewhere in there if you’re not using the doepfer. A switch grabbing from two different euclidian sources gets ya halfway there as even if you mess with one, the second euclidian sequence can probably keep things in check.
Yeah that's a great shout, a 4-step-CV-controlled euclidean sequencer would be very nice.
20:14 about to take it home with that pitch shift in the groove 👾😊 🌌🙌🏾
I just got Euclidean circles. Added to grids and knights gallop. I love switching each bar between kg and grids. Kg has the special optimised tables for dance music (French house?)
These full rig videos and the palette cases are my favorite! What module is to the right of the rov'ed? Doesn't seem to be on modular grid
It’s actually a sneaky prototype - a drive unit by LPZW, not released!
Thank you for the video. Can I ask you what kind of patch cables your using in your system? They look perfect.
Lots of right angled Tendrils cables, they’re great
Since you are talking about Grids so much... I'm quite happy with my TLM Audio Trigs - it's Grids but smaller and with sliders. The only thing I would have changed is to have Chaos on the fourth slider rather than Clock. Otherwise it's perfect (and this comes from someone who prefers knobs over faders normally). Also, thanks for the inspiration, this gives lots to think about and try out again!
Try setting the rskip on Pam’s to 5-10% meaning 5 - 10% of clock triggers will be skipped) into Turing or EC, sort of like rotating the sequence automatically. Anyway super helpful as usual, very similar to my experience and setup but a lot of ideas to take away and try!
My modular madness started with your Euclidean tips from way back. Had no idea what I was doing. Just finished figuring out my own live case and the fact we made even a few of the same core decisions makes me realize I might actually be ok at this now 😂
figuring out is a good word for it! like completing a puzzle. Have you got vids explaining your case? would be interested to see
@@mylarmelodies I’ll be doing live and production breakdowns next month!
Hello! Thank you for this video, it’s always very clear! Do we agree that you tune the oscillator to begin with the hand /
ear or is it the ornament that does that too? I use the ES9 and Ableton (Autotune) to do that, but I find it a shame to use a computer for this.
I use the Calibr8or to get it in tune and recall the settings at the start of a set (and don't touch the tune knobs on my VCOs if I can help it!)
So interesting. Makes me want to dip my toe into the modular minefield! (Volca Boy at the moment) 😉🤖👾
I've been looking at possibly getting a Sebsongs Modular - Euclidean. Might that be a good simpler solution than Circles?
Great video! one question - how do you incorporate and sync the TR-8? :) I just got one myself coincidentally and trying to figure out an efficient workflow!
Currently using the Divkid Output Bus and Midronome: ua-cam.com/video/R9RJ8lRa28Y/v-deo.html - obvs you could use the TR8's input and make the TR8 last in the chain, and something like the Pam's MIDI breakout to sync it? or what have you?
Euclidean circles and Divkid mutes are a great pairing. Use them with sequential switches. Need a bigger case though. ;) Always good to see Atlantis in a case.
Barton 2 ch step trigger, tempi, trouby modular 16 ch trigger. All for percussion in my rack. Easy to access. I also have a RCD feeding into mutes. I can kill the K SN , the sequencer, the wood block, the bass line, all at the flick of a switch.
Awesome video. Can you tell me what angled stackable & non stackable cables you use here? Thanks so much.
Thanks!! Yep the angled cables (stackable and not) are Tendrils brand. They’re really great for keeping it ergonomically usable despite being fully patched
very nice ! why 2 power row?
Ah, that grids/Euclidean Rhythm generator dilemma… Have you looked into Bastl Kompas?
That's what I ended using, together with Dnipro DOT… super combo, and suuper small too : )
Have you tried using presets in Euclidean circles? I don’t remember them being easy to access
Got a new case so I've been having a lot of similar discussions with myself. I'll post on your Discord whence something comes of it.
Ladik S-090 Beat Skipper has been a revelation for me. Same revelation as sending the same pitch sequence to various voices :)
Ahh yeah it’s a good one, I have one! My only issue is that since it uses probability, then it’s not always the same gates excluded each time around - I really want regularity UNTIL I make a change, it’s tricky!
Using it with a A-182-2 you can get there :)@@mylarmelodies
I love it that, after all these years, you still have a Turing Machine and the genius that is the Atlantis active in your case. (Sad face for Stepper Acid) Ace!.......................
FWIW I've been considering getting Stepper Acid in there to have preset sequences!
We all know, because of your archives (and Nina's genius) , the Atlantis-Stepper Acid combo is totally techno-tastically Ace!@@mylarmelodies
On the Braid's thing, if you are just looking for a simple direct way to fatten it up, one simple thing you could look at is the Takaab oscillator helper, if you have the space. Adds one octave down, two octaves down and ring mod. And is pretty standalone, affordable and 2hp. Their dual LPG is great, nice for clicky, tappy, springy, boingy buchla bongos too. That last growly track can be called 'A Good Hat These Days is Hard to Find' btw ;) Ripples makes a good kick, as well as having the VCA, and the saturation. Idk, could use it in place of the Tip-Top I suppose.
Good shout! I have one already too! Could be fun feeding that and all the other outs of that channel into a crossfader like Cold Mac. One catch with the passive LPG is that it doesn’t work with the Tiptop Buchla 281 sadly
@@mylarmelodiesBtw, like you I try very hard to keep my modular to fit in a 6u case (a Rackbrute, in my case). The way I approach percussion is to choose modules that can serve both voice purposes, and percussion purposes. And then switch the config, for either use. So, Ripples is a filter for when Twin Waves is used as a digital complex OSC, or supersaw. But in percussion mode, it's my kick. Similarly, Basimilas is either my digital bass voice, or it does the mid range, snare, metallic thing. And then twin waves is noise source for hats that goes into Manhatt SVVCF. Or if you layer a Takaab LPG bongo with the filtered noise, can be snare like. In bass mode BIA can go into LPG, or just raw. I have maybe more voice modules, and less sequencing/random sources. But that's because I kind of cheap on the 6u rule, by outsourcing sequencing to Oxi One and MPC One (which also does samples).
The 'KISS' Principle: 'Keep It Simple Stupid'👽
Spooky how in sync our workflows are....to keep my Euclidean rhythms "interesting" I place them under voltage control, or if I'm VCV'ing I set them up to be influenced by "in tempo" randomisation, makes for nicer / evolving!
I just played a gig where my midi failed, had to abandon the modular and do a backing track backup. Worst nightmare!
Hi Alex, could you do a patch from scratch please with this case - only if you want to take all your cables out though lol
An alternative to grids and circles - Bastl Kompas. Very small, 5 hp.
Why not use DROID for drum sequencing? Here you can mix euclidian and kind of grids rhythms. And can also be a quantiser for the melodic voice and be a Turing Machine etc. 😊
You could put Marbles in and ditch the turing machine and euclidean sequencers?
If the Euclidean Circles had cv inputs it would much more appealing to me. If you haven’t tried an IDUM you should check it out regarding gate manipulation.
What about using something like a Torso T-1 for sequencing? It seems like it would offer you more tactile control of your sequences, but it wouldn't be part of the rack... does that disqualify it? I guess I'm not really clear on _why_ you want the sequencers tucked into a small corner but integrated into the case, rather than something a bit roomier that lets you interact with the sequence a bit more
I’m absolutely mulling over T1 and will try it more (have tested a bit) but the simple answer is: Absolute simplicity of one knob turing (plus 4 step seq) vs many controls/influences/interactions/probabilities.
Sealegs is a true asset compared to your earlier iterations. From Rave to Trance :).
I feel like cold Mac is designed exactly for all this. 1 knob. Multiple outputs. Bam there are your show states.
Sweet verb bro 🫠
If you ever fancy doing a why we bleep, hit me up!
My rig design has a couple of common elements…
- I use Euclidean circles to randomly gate stuff
- my “damn, everything’s gone wrong” approach is to either hit reverse on the tape delay, or drop down to a dfam (or mother) on a kick, and then build back up
I live patch pretty much everything (aside from a core clocking, final mix, and fx chain patch). I’m not a fan of random voltages into a quantiser. For me anyway, that gives melodic variation, but removes the ability for me to speak melodically so to speak. I just use a precision adder to layer sequences using super simple music theory concepts until you get to something musically interesting.
Using an actual drum machine makes a hell of a lot of sense, which is why I do all the drums in the rig. It doesn’t make sense at all, but it means I can go a little crazy on the modular aspects, and pull off a few tricks a tr8 can’t ;)
Admittedly you could fit your rig in a suitcase, something I’m unable to do! Personally though, I just embrace the possibility everything is going to go wrong on stage. It turns out that when screwing up on stage with modular, those are usually the bits people really love for some reason. Sometimes trying to curate your sound so that you could pass as an average DJ, is less memorable than embracing the true craziness of modular, warts and all!
Thanks mate and you’re doing great stuff with your rig!!
@@mylarmelodies thanks mate! :)
I wonder how feasible using the divkid mutes for gates is, since its clickless muting, but you want gates to click, so essentially you may be rounding off your gates with the click smoothing circuitry which could effect timing. One would assume clickless mutes are more suited for audio and cv, not gates or triggers
From my experience, the divkid mutes works flawlessly with trigger signals. 👍
I think by clickless they just mean that switching between mute/unmute doesn't cause a click/pop from the switch itself. With gates/triggers such a click from the switch might cause an additional (unwanted) trigger.
Question for the modular heads here.
Is there a good patch cable brand that uses the same color at different lengths? This way, I can have all my CV as red, clock as black, notes as green, etc, and the cables of each individual color are all different lengths (ie - 6 inches to 5 feet). I presume there are many but I just can’t find this
LMNTL has exactly what you're looking for. In braided and non-braided cables, too!
@@Ariakiri_
Thank you!
you need to get the bastl kompas my dude, works wonders with Pam, 5 hp, 3 channels of 32 step looped trigger patterns, turn it up to get more steps, turn it down to get less like the grids... but it's random... turing machine for triggers
Thanks!! It’s been on my radar before, I’ll look back into it
oh my, how i luuurv dem doepfer doodats...dey iz da biz
If you're going from the precision adder to a quantizer, wouldn't a regular mixer do just as well? I guess that Doepfer adder has octave switches?
Yeah it would! My thinking is that the Precision adder allows for immediate switching in/out but also subtraction which can be interesting.And octave switching! But defo a mixer might be all you need/more elegant in simplicity and having an attenuator built in.
@@mylarmelodies as I listened further, I can see where your typical utility mixer might make it easy to accidentally jog the knob and suddenly your sequence is gone.
That too!
@@mylarmelodies maybe I should send you a T43 :)
@VladimirPantelic Genuinely would be interested to try one Vlad, it’s been on my radar!!
Wonder if we'll ever see the Intellijel Atlantix ...
Dual tiptop samplers, or Erica Pico Drums with whatever samples I'd want? (...or any other similarly-sized, ~8hp, sample manglers?)
I always find myself back at your style of live jamming, sooo I guess the answer is 2× Tiptops?
_But why?_
Well for me it's about it all being right there on the panel, so I'm not paging/shifting contexts to program stuff!
@@mylarmelodies simple & effective!
@@mylarmelodies woah, also just learned the One can playback "CV samples", whatever that is?
Very curious how one would create/record CV in a format that would be able to be uploaded, and how - since I was under the impression there isn't any direct recording built into the One sampler? Using Ableton CV Tools & automation lanes to create CV sequences maybe...?
Possible video in order! 🌿👀🌿
why not just getting nerdseq? You can keep all this crazy precision adder, euclidian circles, clocks, sequencers... in another case... Then when you are back home jamming, you find a good sequence and you can just record it into nerdseq. I think that was the way Ansome was doing it back in the day before the Akai Force.
For live, I think this is a step “too clever”. The Grids x2 gives you the freedom to “be in the moment and perform”. For the studio, this allows you to be inventive. I would want to be always recording the sequence. To be able to reuse.
If only Euclidean Circles came out with insanely easy presets!
Serious question - when you get to this level of patching complexity - how do you mentally keep track of what is going on? There aren’t any visual sight lines at this point to rely on. Just a next of tangled cables. But you seem to know what’s talking to what. I have like eight patch cables connected and I forget what two of them are even doing.
For me I find that when I put the patch together and practice with it, I do find I naturally remember what was what - but it needs practice. I think labeling things is underrated - so reccomend you get some thin tape and a sharp permanent marker!
@@mylarmelodies love it! So you keep it patched a while, you aren’t reconfiguring major aspects of it every couple days
@@michaelkonomos That's right! Keep it as is so you can learn it/build muscle memory. Labelling can help the learning process (and if you need to make any tweaks)
@@mylarmelodies Thank you so much for the advice! Still new to modular and learning a lot.
Maybe a stupid question, but have you tried the five12 vector sequencer?
Seen it demoed briefly at a show but never owned one. It does seem cool, Daniel Miller was bigging it up
@@mylarmelodies I was thinking that much of what you do with precession adders and stuff is kind of similar thinking.
It's big and worse with the expander, but I seldom use more than two melodies at the same time, and I got Steppy so enough gates.
It's surprisingly easy to learn and fast to use.I'm stupid and lazy when it comes to manuals and complex stuff, but even then I easily manage to change and transpose melodies.
Maybe it was you that I first heard say that sequencers are a very personal thing, and I been through a few so for me the whole experience with this one has been, I don't know, transcendental?
That sounds very interesting - are there any good vids of it doing its unique thing?
@@mylarmelodies There are good instruction videos, but I haven't found any where they play for real if that is what you mean.
This one is the first of three videos that I used:
Five12 Vector Sequencer - Parts Overview (#1)
ua-cam.com/video/Xj89AJPs-iA/v-deo.html
Then I found this now that is shorter:
Exploring the Five12 Vector Sequencer!
www.youtube.com/watch?
v=2iDpvxC1Dnw
Then Loopop has one that is much shorter, but these are better.
ua-cam.com/video/tdzYqtgERuw/v-deo.html
What I like most about Five 12:
Two subsequences per part + any percentage of random on chosen parameters. The random thing can be very subtle.
Easy to transpose to scales, semitones or octaves.
That it is deep but can be used by a shallow person. Meaning that I get far without using all of its capabilities but can actually make music and slowly discover at the same time.
As a dyslectic I struggle with manuals so the videos and the intuitiveness of the module made it surprisingly easy for me to get into.
I had:
Doepfer DarkTime that I didn't like, but it died (thankfully). Could work with several darkimes I guess..
Bloom that was good but the random transform thing, is not very musical and to much all over the place. Also multiple button combos and button uses that has to be memorized are not my forte'.
Malekko VoltageBlock that I still got but use it for modulation...
Got a Mother32 but never learned to properly use the sequencer.
Instruo Harmonaigh is great but not a sequencer, but I sometimes use it with an input from the Five12.
So:
point is, the Five 12 is so much more intuitive and easy to use and to do many things, than all of the above. Still deeper but no deep menus. After updates there are some button combos for some never functions.
I got mine cheap second hand.
Would recommend you to try it out if you get a chance. Then they are not hard to find used either. With a bit of search for a fair price, but probably not so easy to resell because of this.
@@mylarmelodies Here is one I just found:
Five12 Vector Sequencer Tutorial - Making AFX Backdoor.Spyboter.A
ua-cam.com/video/yhYDXRcHIhQ/v-deo.html
Is your name from mylar capacitors?
well yeah the dupont material! it was alliterative
How do you use one channel of Euclidean Circles to modify another?
drive.google.com/file/d/1EApz-vpVIF3b5UF470DARnzkAJj8vaCl/view?usp=drivesdk 'Prescale'
@@mylarmelodies Many thanks---rtfm!
Defo a product that benefits from a manual read!
@@mylarmelodies Indeed! Thank you for your generosity!
Curious about your choice of Atlantis? It does take up a lot of real estate.
It does a lot though, and sounds killer. But yeah I’ve certainly thought about smaller alternatives a lot!
lol like almost 10 years in, the only constant for me is atlantis as well
Turing machine sounding aHHhhHH patch
I just want to eat that system...from the candy floss all the way down to the braids!