Why Weezer Chooses to be BAD
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- After The Blue Album and Pinkerton Weezer has seemly declined in quality.
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Weezer is an American rock band formed in Los Angeles, California, in 1992. in 1993, Weezer released their self-titled debut album, also known as the Blue Album. Weezer's second album, Pinkerton (1996), featuring a darker, more abrasive sound, was a commercial failure and initially received mixed reviews, but achieved cult status and critical acclaim years later.
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Sorry if this video is awkward this is the first time I've recorded both a facecam and trying to read the script, so sometimes I'm kinda staring off into space. ill get better at it!
Dude, what are you talking about, this was great!
@@jeremyo3823 im glad you enjoyed! ill always be my worst critic!
You did pretty good👍
Hey Stemp. Ima stick around and watch you a bit. I doubt I'll comment but I'll be watching, I like your content. If you're up to listening to a new sound, listen to a band called Hum. Their music is kinda like shoegaze, if you know what that is. Or at least I think it is lol. It's not just shoegaze, they're also really heavy. If you decide to listen to them, listen to their song Stars. Be prepared for it to get loud if you do :)
this video is how most of us feel, too accurate
Unlike the majority of artists that are so afraid of making " bad " music ( whatever that means ), Weezer are one of the few that are not afraid to do something different / look stupid. That is true artistic freedom.
I mean a lot of bands do stuff different and “look stupid” but still make enjoyable, well crafted, music (kgatlw) while Maintaining artistic freedom. I’d argue that weezer does the opposite actually, especially in the past they have tried to replicate what makes other songs successful resulting in lazy and uninteresting music
@@Stemp you can say that with any other band as well
@@Stemp i think the reason behind many songs sounding like their songs of the past is because rivers cuomo constantly reuses old demos or old lyrics. i think many of songs in ewboite were from the green era(though i could he wrong) and california girls from the white album is an english remake of a 2013 song he did as Scott and Rivers. Mix that with whatever new sound or genre hes trying out and youve got either the best song youve listened in a long time or the 3 to 4 most disappointing minutes in your life.
@@panfilolivia i think lonely girl is the only green-era song, everything else was demod in the early 2010s
@@haha_hollie ahh thanks my bad. Great song tbf
Shakespear makes me happy so happy so happy to be with you is one of the lyrics of all time
and hes right. shakespeare does make me happy so happy. and hamlet also makes me happy so happy.
river's lyric on "one more hit" is his best since pinkerton era
to put maladroit on the "bad" side in the thumbnail has made me incredibly irrationally upset
Maladroit is a great album , I thought it was the weakest of the first four albums but it's def good
not sure how I feel about Maladroit and EWBAITE being lumped in with Make Believe and Raditude lol
Yeah I’m not trying to say they’re awful, just that they’re more average than some of their others albums
@@Stemp EWBAITE is my favourite Weezer album by far…
I like blue, Pinkerton, white, ok human
The rest are pretty okay.
But EWBAITE has this unmatched feeling. In every song.
To me it’s an album that excels in acceptance. It feels like Weezer/Rivers have finally started making music that they want to for the first time since Pinkerton.
make believe is not bad in fact perfect situation is great. actually beverly hills is the only bad bad BAD song
Someone once said being a Weezer fan is like being a Sonic fan and it sucks to be a fan of both
edit: Red has enormous chaotic neutral energy and I enjoy it. It's not better than blue or pinkerton, but I enjoy it a decent bit
I fucking adore pork and beans, but yeah red just isn’t as good as those two.
Yeah but we don’t have any cool people like Chris Chan
@@Sticks_And_Glue I think just about any non-casual weezer fan can fit that bill
weezer is very hit or miss every time I decide to listen to one of their albums post-pinkerton 😭
@mikedavis8008 Taylor Swift sells lots of records, that doesn't mean she's good
Weezer is like the Pokémon of modern rock bands when it comes to the reception of both. Constant disappointment and and extremely painful amount of discourse from everyone involved.
A video about how underrated Maladroit is was next in the auto play.
I don’t think it’s Bad just kinda average
you should really give OK Human another try, easily their fourth best besides blue/pinkerton/white IMO. Yes some of the lyrics are kind of corny and not every single song is 10/10, but songs like aloo gobi, mirror image and here comes the rain hit really hard and have fantastic structures/production/lyrics and are instant earworms. Not a perfect album for sure but one of their best in a long time!!
I’ll take another listen for sure
W take
Hmm. It has good qualities, I like it fine. But it's not going to be the same masterpiece to everyone who hears it.
OK Hunan definitely was a return to form somewhat. Best album in almost a decade
Maladroit and OK Human need more love
"These 4 goofy looking dudes"
Coming from the guy in obvious and absolute denial about the state of his mustache, that just loses its kick
i eat my chug jug with the pork and beans
W comment W fortnite W beans W drake album W pride month
i dont give a hoot what you think
wow never heard this opinion before
The Hard life of a maladroit fan
@@Stemp ngl more fun to jerk mala than to jerk white
I gotta disagree and say Everything Will be alright in the end is a top 5 for me, really good album.
(Also green is pretty good, “Don’t let go” and “O Girlfriend” are my favorites outside of Island in the sun of corse
whats with my homies stemping my stemp
Weezer is awesome.
YESSS
@Zeepsterd where is the make believe video
It’s hilarious cause Rivers legit makes new songs with the help of spreadsheets of all his previous work.
My favourite Weezer album is Ok Human 😂
as someone who has recently only listened to Blue and a few newer releases, i have never been more afraid to look at the rest of a band's discography. literally everyone hates it, but i'm still cautiously optimistic.
maybe i'll check back here when i finish listening to some of their other work.
oh, great video btw.
Listen to make believe its great (except beverly hills)
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can look at albums like spring, ok human, red, ect. and say they take the "easy way out". regardless of if you like the albums or not, and regardless of their quality, that's just unfair. They're all creative records, even mediocre ones (imo) like hurley and black have a lot of effort put into them. Weezer never sets out to make a shitty album. They like to experiment and don't want to restrict themselves to one style. Sometimes it goes well, sometimes it doesn't, but they don't take the easy way out. If anything they make things harder for themselves.
totally agreed. i dont understand why people say theyve sold out either. i dont think anybody whos solely interested in money or pandering to the masses could do red album or raditude. if they truly wanted to make things easy for themselves they would make 9 albums with an identical sound to the green album who wouldve all gotten a lukewarm seven on pitchfork.
@@panfilolivia FR if they truly sold out we would be getting nothing but green and make belive over and over. Ok human and spring had some radio play too but they're like the opposite of commercial for Weezer 💀
@@segasonic23 exactly. And i honestltly really love make believe, but boy am i glad that their albums after that dont sound just like it.
@@panfilolivia same i enjoy a couple tracks off of make believe a lot. its really not that bad all things considered and i think raditude is much worse tbh. raditude is so bad i forget it exists. but aside from that their discography doesn't vary in quality as much as many people say it is imo.
Bro Hurley was made in a week shut the hell up
How can you possibly rank EWBAITE with raditude and hurley, personally I think EWBAITE is at the same level or even better than white album (average EWBAITE fan)
agreed. ewbaite is amazing and really catchy. how it is often ignored by other fans is baffling
Maladroit's great and has some really deep songs
With a title like this I know it’s gonna be good
two words, one name: Matt Sharp. I have asked myself the same for years and he is the missing link/common denominator.
I actually really like Pacific Daydream. It's an album that I feel not only has a consistent sound, but it also has a consistent theme of hoping for things you know are out of your reach. It gives a feeling of intentional pathetic-ness with the lyrics. While it's defintely not their best, I feel that more people need to try and give it another chance.
Pacific Daydream was an absolutely enjoyable listen from start to finish
I think most of its bad reputation comes from being a pop record that came out after white which inadvertently felt to most as a step backward. My opinion on it is summed up with the quote “better than remember, still bad end”. By funke
When I first heard “OK human” “everything will be alright in the end” and others like “Hurley” I thought they were mid or bad… but giving them a second chance was worth it because those three are now IMO s tier weezer albums. They don’t capture the same feeling blue or Pinkerton had but they are great albums for sure. And side note I actually love make believe other than we are all on drugs and Beverly Hills, it’s actually pretty great and I don’t understand the hate.
I keep enjoying Weezer because Rivers is an excellent pop writer imo. I view Weezer as a pop band that occasionally makes rock music. Albums such as the black album and white are just infectiously catchy. If I had to rank the discography from an E To S tier list it'll be this
S tier:
Blue, Pinkerton, White, and OK human. These are all albums I believe are essential albums for Weezer. They showcase the band at their absolute best.
A tier:
Maladroit and EWBAITE. These albums are great and are good choices if you want to venture outside of the 90s catalog.
B tier:
Green, Red, Hurley, Black, and Van Weezer These won't blow your mind or anything but they are fun and overall decent pieces of music. At this point, the albums start to have duds, songs that can range from mediocre to pretty bad, (cough cough where's my sex)
C tier: Make believe and Pacific daydream. These albums aren't very good but not bad. they range from average to mediocre. They have some hidden gems in there but they are few and far between.
D tier: Raditude and teal. They suck. Bad albums.
Snzs are EPs and not albums so they don't count here but if I had to rank spring as it's the only one out as I'm writing this, it would be between C and B tier.
Yo Stemp my guy, love your stuff, have been watching since the beginning of the channel, but this video was lowkey a bit of an ASMR session, bring the sensitivity back on the mic just a tad please, lmao. Otherwise great vid, love your stuff keep up the good work, definitely some of the best music based content on the platform rn.
thanks! I see what you mean! will look into ways to fix that lmao, but I'm glad you enjoyed it!
EWBAITE is amazing bro, are you crazy
what's with my homies wheezing so hard?
it's not that funny.
Weezer broke up in 1996 after Pinkerton
It’d be cool if they re-recorded some of the B sides from Blue and Pinkerton, because those songs are better than most of the new stuff
Weezer love not hate stemp
I don’t listen to weezer or know why I clicked on this video but you’re fucking funny. That frustration you can have with artists when their releases are just so off the mark is v relatable
i think it takes a lot of effort for rivers to put his heart and soul into something hes really proud of (blue, pinkerton, white, ok human), so in the meantime, they have to at least have something to tour with between these dry spells
I saw them on tour, and they only played old songs literally a month or two after pacific daydream dropped so idk about all that
@@Stemp fair, but if they were only to play the same old songs with nothing new every tour whilst only having a few good albums and nothing else, it'd be a lot more boring. i also assume they at least put a little bit of effort into new stuff
His stated reason in a chatroom in 2002 for abandoning black hole was return of the rentals. I think what he meant was the space theme for stolen from him
there is no way in hell you're shitting on maladroit
i just don't like it im sorry
@@Stemp top 4 weezer actually
There are actually a lot memorable songs from green, they always experimented and it paid off imo. Red album is very underrated and I believe it’s their best work and them at their best. Dreamin and Miss Sweeney are such great songs
Even though green is just the same song a dozen times, it’s a really good song. You cannnot call it bad weezer
that is probably the best way i have heard someone describe green
It’s ironic to see a guy making a bad video whining about Weezer making bad music. And I’m not even talking about production of the video, I’m talking about how this content adds nothing to conversation. I get that a lot of people don’t like Weezer post-Pinkerton music, and you’re entitled to your opinion, but what’s your solution, or suggestion, or deep analysis?
2:08
I think Weezer doesn't understand WHY Pinkerton was post-release popular. The grit and relatability of that album's subject matter is what makes it a classic.
weezer's first 4 albums were awesome but... they became awful after that.
I wish we were friends; maybe now we are.
Just a subtle correction: Rivers diverted from the space-opera theme because the Rentals album dabbled in a similar concept and also he decided that it wasn’t that great of an idea
Weezer needs their old mindset to sound more like their first albums but neither the band haves the same lineup(/s) or haves same producers, so even if they have, they wouldn't sound same.
Simply, Rivers doesn't makes songs like he did back in Blue-Pinkerton days and also totally different people works on the new albums, other than 3 bandmates.
I just dont understand how can u think what weezer is gonna do the same music for litterly 30 years. As long as i can enjoy weezer music i dont care about anything what people say about them
Let the guys have fun if you dont like i dont know man just dont listen to it
if i made my first album and it became viral and popular i'd go through the same that he went, you can't fail anymore, you gotta keep perfect
this is exacly how I imagined weezer fan
I actually liked Maladroit
Are you choosing to do this the day I see wheezer live
Weezer is great live!
@@Stemp yea they were
What do you think of summer
imma stream listening to it for the first time later tonight!
NOT GOOD
@@Stemp did you like records at least?
I'd say after Maladroit they took a turn for the suck. The first four albums is classic Weezer where they consistently rocked and weren't total emo garbage. Van Weezer redeemed them a little, but then back to the suck...
Nice video the first 3 seconds were amazing
I think I disagree with you about the fact that they can make good music. It's over. Maybe in 2000, but we tried. He didn't listen. He had his own "ideas" and he wrote messages to the fans in the early post ss2k music. They can't do it. They're all in their 50's. It's done, my friend.
i cant like this because were at 420, but just know i do
You lumped maladroit into the bad pile? Adios bro lol
Blue was mid at worst imo. Pinkerton was easily their magnum opus for me. What weezer truly is. A pink triangle and going back to the Good life
What a terrible review. Throughout all of the video, you shit on weezer. Then you have the audacity to say that you “like weezer” or that you “didn’t make this video to shit on weezer”. You then say “give me your thoughts” in the most condescending laugh I’ve ever heard. If you really like weezer, why not enjoy albums BESIDES Blue, Pinkerton, and White? Just my thought. I hope you take what I say into consideration.
Also, you should totally give ELO’s discography a listen.
i have tried to enjoy the others and just dont, i do enjoy the band with Blue, Pinkerton, and White, and quite a few tracks off some of their others. They're excellent live, and new drops from them are something i usually look forward too, but in recent years they just havent been up to my own standards. i want more stuff from them that i do enjoy which is why i made the video in the first place, not exclusivly to shit on them, but because i want them to make better music. I get what you're saying and trust me i have tried to enjoy their other albums, the issue is i think the things they try to accomplish on those albums are just done better by other bands.
@@Stemp That’s fair. Sorry for sounding rude if I did :)
@@snsnshhhs663 nah i get it, you like the band and some dudes trashing on em you wanna defend it, no harm done!
@@Stemp Glad to hear you understand!
Little bit of love is pretty good song from the Spring Album.
Every time I thought Weezer's music was flat, something that's wrong with it. I see I was not the only one. Never liked Weezer except a few songs
They don't have anything to prove to me.
I feel like I'm in the minority in the fandom, I think White and EWBAITE are top 2 weezer albums, Blue and OKH are just good and I think PD and Black are both 8 or 9/10.
4 great albums are more than enough for one bend. Few bands have recorded more of that. For those who think it's easy, I suggest they try creating their own music. maybe they will understand how stupid and ignorant they are
this is all my takes of every album
(Is my opinion)
Blue: Not joking, probably one of the greatest albums of all time. and deserves a bigger and much better comment than this.
Pinkerton: also one of the greatest albums of all time.
Green: great moments, but it does feel like it was made in a month.
Maladroit: just a solid great album, which for most bands is great, but just the history of Weezer, that’s not right.
Make believe: beginning of an abusive relationship, but looking back on it, I think Beverly Hills is not that awful, The rest is just boring. but I think perfect situation is great.
Red: it’s great, has some bad tracks. But some of the most underrated Weezer songs of all time. Automatic 10/10.
Raditude: alcohol to heroin. What an awful album.
Hurley: it’s like three good songs on this, but the rest is boring.
Everything will be all right in the End: i’m gonna say it, One of the strongest 9/10 of all time. When I think back on songs like back to the shack, and go away. I think they’re annoying tracks. Then I listen to them and I’m quoting every lyric. Great songs. The ending three part Melody is top 15 Weezer songs.
White: I’m gonna say it, this is better than Pinkerton and probably tire with blue. This probably one of the most special albums I ever listen to, every track is fucking phenomenal. California kids, Summer Doki, and Endless Bummer, our top 5 Best Weezer songs. Probably the best album of the 2010s (in my opinion). Just perfect
Pacific Daydream: The album goes from to good music to turn your mind off, to he went back to the Needles.
Teal: not bad, I think there’s like 50 songs that Weezer could’ve cover better.
Black: High as a kite is great, and I don’t remember listening to the rest. Good album cover though.
OK human: The first time I listen to this album, was like two weeks or three week after it release, I just started been listening to the blue album like every day. I played it, and I was like… light 6/10, nothing like Weezer.
But then I listen to it again, and then again, then again… and then like 20 times throughout the year, and I realize that one was fucking fantastic. I think I realized that it’s a Rivers Cuomo album featuring Weezer, and not a Weezer album. It’s about his struggle, fears, and worried about death, not as a College student from 1990s, as an 50 year old man. But also the seeing the joys of life. I’m glad it took a more Orchestra approach. Just glad that Weezer was actually able to experiment, And not makingPop-rock. I think I only issue (same with White) it raises expectation for the next Weezer project. What does album is fantastic, The fourth best Weezer album.
Van Weezer: OK, but nowhere Near as good I just trying to re-create. Wish it was release before OK human.
Spring EP: better than Van/Black sometimes teal. But kind of annoying and parts. I think summer, fall, and winter definitely be more interesting. Seeing from Brian Instagram, there is some good potential here. What a week start.
Top 5
Blue & White
Pinkerton
OK human
Everything will be all right in the end.
Maladroit or Red.
i dont tell people this but i like black album
high as a kite is honestly a great song
I like Raditude and Make Believe. Hurley is the worst album imho.
Weezer's concept has always had meta elements. The horrible lyrics are a reflection of pop music. Guessing that because he grew up in a cultish environment, this may be how he responds and connects to the world - through his interpretations of what's out there in pop culture. Everything will be alright in the end was very good.
Green album is my favorite , im a musician and im literally using it as the main inspiration for my new ep ..
dont know why this got recommended to me but im glad it did !
thanks for checking it out!
I find it really funny how Weezer and Radiohead started out around the same year and put out debut albums that sound very similar sonically, but then proceeded to go down complete opposite career paths
I can’t agree more with your assessment of the White Album. I’d just about given up on them after Raditude. It was an absolute pile of garbage. Red sort of redeemed them and then I was at least partially pleased with Everything Will be Alright in the end. But the White Album was a ray of sunshine from the California coast line.
Listen to popular music, it tell you keep it simple, go for the lowest common denominator. I don’t like it. But besides Raditude and Hurley, I’ve found some songs I like on all the albums. I like Make Believe, I like Green, I like some of EWBAIYE and some of OK Human.
I think the big problem is Weezer is driven by Rivers the artist, Rivers the business man and Rivers the "delicate", like simultaneously.
So it leads to a disjointed philosophy towards music and output, with all three parts trying to compensate and react to different economic/cultural/personal and fan pressures. That said, he really went off the deep end in the late 2000s and even stopped playing guitar at one point.
Like most albums have forgiveable moments where potential shines though but their career is hard tanked by Make Believe and Raditude in particular. Like it's easy to forget how reviled Weezer were between 2005 and 2012 because of those albums, they were basically THE musical punchline.
I remember getting into them around 2014 and you could literally see the shift from broke to bespoke happen in real time.
ngl tho, Pork and Beans is a super weird one. idk about you but at the time it dropped, I was like a lil kid still and like, no-one mentioned it at school. The only person who ever mentioned it was my mum and that just made, what felt like, at the time, a lame try hard video, feel even more tryhard.
tbf, now, I think it's a pretty cute video in a way but at the time, it really was pretty cringy even as a kid. I guess it doesn't help like, culturally in 2008, everyone else was trying to give off an aura of aggression.
/effort post
First two albums are masterpieces. Green and Maladroit are pretty good. Everything after Maladroit is a mixed bag. EWBAITE and White are good comeback albums.
raditude was the first weezer album i listened to in january 2024. i actually liked it. i liked pinkerton and green album too
I don't agree about white album. I think it's good but I don't think it has what makes blue and pink what they are
Have you listened to the Alone demo bundles?
lol - they don't choose to be bad, they just suck.
fair point
Listened to spring, some fire record and ice record... all crap! Blue and Pinkerton made you want to learn guitar and write music... these later albums are lame elevator music.
I think this is the first comment I’ve received on this video that agrees with me
maybe give EWBAITE anoter lsiten imo its actually pretty good
I enjoyed the video.
I LOVE Blue album and Pinkerton.
I LIKE Green album, Maladriot & White album
I DONT LIKE any other albums.
I STILL LIKE =w=
I feel that I'm genuinely the biggest fan of the Black Album there is. It has this pop vibe that a lot of their other work just doesn't give off. It has the same Summer vibes of the White album but with more of a pop type of thing going on.
in all honesty I don't actually hate any Weezer albums, I used to hate the ones that people said were bad but never had listened to them. Now listening to all of them, I honestly dont hate any of them (yes even Raditude is somewhat enjoyable) they're all enjoyable to me in different ways and thats what I like about the band
what happened to my boy van weezer?
Totally forgot about it maybe that says something idk
@@Stemp clearly you need to listen to rivers cuomo sing pump it up into me please daddy please daddy in 1 more hit
Personally I enjoy all of Weezer albums but I see the critique of their discography after Pinkerton lol
Green and Red and Maladroit are definitely 😴
you are a respectable individual
@@Stemp OK Human is definitely their best modern album.
Van Weezer was... Embarrassing.
@@bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854 i gotta give Ok Human another chance, but van weezer is so embarrassing i forgot to mention it in the video lmao
Weezer has some deep lore
I enjoyed maladroit : \
I personally wouldn’t call any Weezer albums “bad”, not even Raditude (although I’m not saying it’s all good, it’s a mixed bag). Personally, on re-listens for every albums, much of it has grown on me leading to me not considering any album bad, although on my first listens I disliked many Weezer albums. I’d definitely suggest re-listening to EWBAITE, as well as OK Human as another commenter suggested. Make Believe too, my biggest hot take is that this album is great. Many of the tracks such as Hold Me, This Is Such A Pity, Haunt You Every Day, Pardon Me, Peace, etc are absolutely underrated in my opinion and deserve more love. Songs like those sort of resemble Pinkerton in terms of lyrics, but are less dark while still being quite dark, reflecting Cuomo’s mental state in the early 2000s which wasn’t too good, but less bad than during the Pinkerton era.
Brief summaries of my opinions on each album:
Blue: Great, very great.
Pinkerton: Best Weezer album.
Green: Good, starts off strong but becomes too same-ish by the end.
Maladroit: Love the album, but becomes slightly same-ish near the end too but to a lesser extent than Green (basically just Possibilities and Love Explosion feel to same-ish)
Make Believe: Great, most tracks are very good.
Red: Like the experimentation and diverseness of sound, overall great album.
Raditude: Mixed bag, has a few horrible tracks, and has some good to great ones in there too.
Hurley: Similar to Raditude, except the bads are slightly less bad and the album is more bland in general.
DTFM: Good, if not great, definitely deserves more love.
EWBAITE: Great album, love the themes in it.
White: Another great album.
Pacific Daydream: Quite underrated in some spots, good album overall.
Teal: Cool, yet unnecessary and I’d be fine without it.
Black: Same thing I said about PD.
OK Human: Amazing album, very interesting too.
Van Weezer: Great, but some bland parts. Also why did they ruin Briny?
Spring: Pretty great, love Opening Night and Angels on Vacation especially, they give strong Blue Album vibes in their choruses.
ewbaite grouped with raditude makes me sick actually
bro did not say that ewbaite has one or two good songs…
Everything weezer is bunghooolio
you have a cool voice btw i like it
So I'll start by saying I'm not a Weezer fan, and I don't know many of their songs. When I have heard their songs, or seen a video, it seems to me that Weezer wants to be a rock band with good songs and cool guitar riffs, but maybe they were college during the "grunge" era and guitar songs were unpopular at that time. They seem to be embarrassed when they play a good riff, and then mock what they just played as though they were better than the music they're trying to play. Nerds.
They need to go back to their geek rock roots
This guy should be the 5th weezer member
pinkerton
EWBAETE is one of their best albums change my mind
The Black Album (Metallica ofc)