Can't Finish Music? You Need To Do THIS!
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- Making Music is extremely hard. Even when we have attained all of the skills and knowledge to create music, it's still extremely difficult to finish music. Along the way, there are thousands of tiny decisions that need to be made. At each decision lays the risk of running into self-doubt and a crippling inner critic.
In this episode of the Music Production Podcast, we explore the importance of almost recklessly making decisions and committing to them.
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Have any tips on finishing music? Whether it's a mindset thing or an action you take, any insight is appreciated!
Im 34 and producing music since 15 ! And im just starting to release my work because i had this problem and another problem that it was choosing my sound and genre as an artist! Still searching for that specially in house music i love producing deep tech minimal and I cannot make a fake character that is for example known for his tech hosue or specific genre! i even started uploading my hiphop beats on beat stars! I have more than 1200 unfinished tracks and i like them all! But i realized no one really knows and cares about the decisions! Nobody would say why didnt you use a different clap! 😂the decision are just in your head , Sometimes for example I’m on the saved as 12th version of the track and saying thank god i didn’t release this song its reached another level! And sometimes its the opposite i go back to the version 1 and realize that was the best one! But at the end nobody has heard or knows about my other versions so it doesn’t make a difference for any one where i stop and release! The same in mixing people who listen to music don’t realize and don’t care about the little mixing decisions you make ! Don’t rush and dont ocd on the track just make a balance and release and move on
Cultivate discipline and drop all expectations. I'm only saying in this because I'm practicing it and so far it is working.
Yeah, reference.. Thanks for addressing the issue I had..
@@benafsharmusic I often get stuck at the most initial thoughts of "what genre? what style? What feel?" You're right about those micro details. Of course they matter but they shouldn't be allowed to pile up until a song is never finished! Thanks for sharing!
@@zoharkiaav Rely on discipline!
I feel like this isn't even about music. This is legitimately solid advice for being happier in general.
I agree! Music is only one of the many places it applies.
By the buffet analogy I came to the same conclusion.
Reminds me of the wisdom in “The Frugal Hedonist”
@@davidcooke779 I've never heard of it, but I will check it out! Thanks!
The music works on you dawg
To paraphrase: “There is the IDEAL version and there is the functional version we actually work with in physical reality.” This is a powerful concept. This is freeing and angst eliminating.
Nicely put!
That is actually the synopsis of the book “zen mind beginners mind”
@@impolitikful That sounds like a title of a book I would like. Thanks!
@@BrianFunkMusic I think you would!
I think it’s Rick Rubin that says you’re never truly finished and you’ll never reach your original ideal. You can only leave each song in an “interesting place”. Also very freeing
This got way more philosophical than I expected 😂 thank you
My pleasure!
As a perfectionist, I needed this. The struggle of commitment is real
Perfectionism is a ticket to failure and frustration. We should strive to become Imperfectionists! I completely understand the struggle. I deal with it every single time!
if you cannot comit just render all to audio if it dosnt fit laiter on delete it
"Here's something about music". Proceeds to give incredibly valuable life advice.
🤣It's all connected!
I think that it's important for musicians to not get so wrapped up in their own expectations of what the track should or shouldn't sound like and instead allow the track to reveal itself. I'm not saying that this is always possible but it's important for musicians to incorporate these therapeutic music making sessions, where they allow themselves to explore, to discover, to make mistakes, break rules, and let loose. Sit down and start writing without having an end result envisioned in your mind, and just bask in the present moment of curiousity.
Well put! I agree 100%. Of course there are times when we have to get the work done, but staying open and being accepting of what happens is often where the magic is! Thanks for those wise words!
I'm a big believer in letting a track reveal itself - letting it evolve organically into whatever it wants to be - this often leads to "happy accidents"...
Music is turning into life lessons. I've always felt that if you could understand everything about sound and music you would understand the world
I think it has helped me be a better person!
@Music Production w/ Brian Funk I'm not religious but in the beginning, they say God created the world by speaking it into existence. Creation is one of the most valuable things we have and sound can be very powerful. I thought that was pretty cool. So many lessons. Now if I could just learn my daw lol.
@@BIONDIEST 🤣True! It won't take an act of God to learn a DAW! Just lots of time and trial and error!
This is spot on. I stopped using sequencers and routed all my synths into a sampler. Sampling was a paradigm shift. The process of making music became immediate and centered in the moment, concentrating on the execution. With sequencing, in the back of mind mind, im thinking I can always take out a note here and there, fix the timing, etc. With sampling...you have to be all in. You have to really commit. You’re doing a “take” in the classic sense. I really like the finality of a sample. Your capturing the performance. With sequencing the possibilities of editing are just mind numbingly and obsessively maddening. It changed everything for me. Metaphorically, I went from being a technical drawer, meticulously getting everything right to being a painter, blending colors and throwing paint on the canvas - blending improvisation, curiosity, and exploration with intention, planning, and purpose.
I love it! Great comparison with painting! I have found myself a bit stuck when sequencing synths with MIDI. Sometimes the best thing to do is just record those sequences to audio!
If you know of Roni Size old school D&B producer he never used Sequencers, he used Akais for some timeless classics, and Liam Howlett only used Yamaha W7 and Akais to produce and perform Prodigy experience. I have often argue with myself whether to switch back to Synths with on board Sequencing.
@@lukekharma8675 That's pretty awesome. I think there's room to do both! I like the simplicity though!
@@lukekharma8675 Cool - Yeah those Yamaha synthesizer Workstations are really cool. My first synthesizer was the Yamaha SY 85. It’s still a pretty bad ass synth And used some of the same technology as the W7. The cool thing about the workstations from the 90s is that Instead of being step oriented, they were much more musically orientated in the sense that they went by measures so you were inclined to think more in musical terms of the different note values such as 16th notes, half notes, etc within a bar of music and not really thinking about steps so much.
@@BrianFunkMusic I started using a Roland D 20 before I got my first Atari with Cubase.😁
My "trick" is I view everything as a demo. I finish a song and then redo it. then it always seems like its getting better and so much is getting done. i realize if its god enough as a song, in its structure and basic message then someone in a bigger better studio will be willing to make it into its final form. makes everything go so fast and is so much fun.
that's smart, I'm sure it relieves a lot of the pressure of getting something perfect and just getting the idea complete!
Getting DEEP. Best time I've spent on UA-cam in a long time 🤝
Glad to hear it! Thanks Austin!
The amount of times I’ve started something, it sounds good, and then I get to tweaking it and end up with something completely different, losing the vibe of the original completely. Rinse and repeat. Great video, thanks for reminding us of all these things that stop us creating music. 🙂
You are not alone :) It's challenging but that's why there's glory in finishing a song!
Wow so true, ill re open old songs i made and oftentimes im blown away at what i made, when at the time i didnt "finish" it because of the potential
I have a lot of those. Sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised but also slightly let down at myself!
Finish what you start! Constantly reminding myself of this. One milestone at a time.
One thing at a time!
Very wise, so helpful. This is why it is soo important to start with something inspiring instead of the “drums first, bass second, synth third” mentality you mentioned.
Applying your own unique approach to a new problem is how great art is made.
Glad you liked it! It's tough, but it's all about moving forward!
This entire presentation is 100% directly applicable to painting as well as music.
On another note, we’ve all suffered through movies where it’s obvious no one on the production team could commit.
Very true! Thanks for sharing!
A bad execution on a good idea is also much better than a good idea with no execution. You learn from trying, and you can always reuse certain ideas in brand new original ways.
So true!
The best restaurants don't have a ten page food menu. Simplify, cut things down, impose limits......& use the 80/20 rule. Top video!
Happy you enjoyed it and great point about the menus. I've always been a little suspicious of a restaurant that offers everything from oatmeal and scrambled eggs to lobster and filet mignon!
This reminds me of my old video store policy. If I don't pick a film within 5 minutes, I need to leave, otherwise I'll be there for 1/2 an hour.
lol oh man I can remember spending ages wandering through those stores!
Rewatching this video helped me finish my first album. The scariest thing is the feeling of the unknown. Will it be good enough? Could I mix and master it better? Should I have added or cut instruments and sounds?
All those questions are always in the back of my mind. I just wanted to say thank you. This video really helped me realize that the album is done and I’m just procrastinating and I have to accept that the album will never be 100% perfect.
Thank you! This video along with Venus Theory’s was the reality hit that I needed.
That's amazing! Congratulations on finishing the album. It's no small feat! Very few people who begin in music production ever get to that point. It's an achievement well worth celebrating!
I know all of those thoughts. They are part of the process! Please keep me posted on the release of the album, I want to hear it!
That means a lot to me. Thank you so much. I’m actually changing the release date to the 21st of October instead of the 29th since the album is ready ahead of schedule! Keep up the great content man. @@BrianFunkMusic
Made me look within myself as a musician, I've been trying to struggle less with perfectionism and decision paralysis. Thank you for the tips!
Perfect is the enemy of good. Better to be done than never finish
This video is not just about finishing music it's also about life a bit philosophical 👌
A lot of times I feel like when we are talking about music on this podcast we are just using it as a metaphor for life! Thanks for watching!
It's like the old saying, "Only seeing the engine and not being able to road."
I am not familiar with that one!
Old guy learns from the young guy. Pearls of wisdom. Thank you for the powerful insights.
You're welcome and thanks for watching!! We all can learn from each other!
Watched this video 8 times already. This dude dropping some knowledge here. Learning to apply that knowledge is the real challenge
Thanks for watching. And it's true. I understand this stuff intellectually, but I struggle with it every single time!! It never gets easy, so don't expect it to. The challenge makes it worth it!
Heck yeah, shout out to everyone who like me started recording on 4-track cassette.
4-Track Cassette turned out to be some solid roots! 💪
wow the timing of yotube recommending me this vid is insane, im literally at the crossroads of a arrangement decision in a track at the moment. sometimes simple examplary thoughts work better than any 'technical' advice
Aww very happy to hear that! So much of making music is mental and philosophical! Best of luck with the project!
I felt really stuck at the last time when it comes to producing music, this video really helped me to get a other view on things! Thank you so much!
So glad it helps. Keep in mind that we all get stuck and frustrated or unsure about what to do next. Trust your gut and push through it. Recognize those feelings and welcome them as part of the challenge. It's challenging but it's not impossible!
100% agree!
Needed this
thank you for this explanation that I've been struggling with for a long time and apparently I'm not alone.
as they say "it is no matter what one does, you always meet yourself somewhere"
Yep, wherever you go, there you are! Thanks for watching!
Thank you, Brian!
That’s awesome congratulations!
I’m so thankful for this video popping up on my recommended. This is exactly what I needed to hear. I’ve been so frustrated with music taking forever and not sounding exactly how I pictured, but I now realize that these limitations are what make me unique. Thank you so much for giving me this clarity, I can see a much more enjoyable path ahead of my music from now on.
That makes my day. I think our work is usually an approximation of what we imagine it to be. And that's kind of the fun too. Sometimes there are some great surprises we could never create intentionally. It's fun to go with the surprise. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!!
dude, u are amazing.
I often regret buying all my sample packs and plugins. As a drummer, Im am glad i only have 5 drums and a few symbals to work with. Keeps me focused on whats important and getting creative with it...Playing the drums well.
Well those plugins and samples taught you that valuable lesson. Sometimes it helps to see the value in things beyond their intended use and for what they teach us, even if it's that we don't need that kind of thing! Great point!!
I started recording in the 1970's on 4-track tape and when we finally got a digital delay, WOW! we gleefully committed that baby. Your advice comes exactly as I waste large amounts of time perfecting things needlessly. They don't get done! Thanks for your guidance, Brian. Folks, listen to the man!
I'm glad I had t start out with committing my effects to tape! It's just what you did! Thanks for watching and sharing that!
I comment very little on videos, but today felt the need to share how much your content moved me not only mentaly, but emotionally and spiritually also.🎙🙏
Thank you, your comment moves me too : ) I appreciate it!
dude this is exactly what i needed to hear. i cant thank you enough.
wise words!
What a bada** title and thumbnail 💪💯. Cheers bro 🍻.
nice. thanks.
Gratitude & Appreciation💯
WOW!! !! Sermon !!
This was amazing to listen to! As someone who plays music for a living but can never finish my own ideas this is exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you so much I shall be sharing this with other like-minded people
Thanks Matthew, I appreciate you telling friends :) Best of luck!
Brian, I realized these self-limitations we should impose, shortly after you may have stopped using your cassette recorder! And I’m so concerned about the damage digital indecision can create in all aspects of life, I stopped what I was doing to listen deeply to this video. The best of your videos I’ve seen by a mile - mind you, I’ve only seen some. Your message is critical - many thanks for it.
I used to call it the two-lifetime rule. If I had 160 years guaranteed instead of MAYBE 80, I’d choose to do everything. Your restaurant analogy is perfect.
While I think most people understand a bucket list inverse from you, that is, a bucket list is designed to eliminate undesired choices, either interpretation works. Your POINT is what matters. And I said and still say literally, the same words as you- “you can’t do everything.”
While I don’t particularly procrastinate, I over-audition sounds - guilty. I do it not because I’m stuck but because I can, yikes. You asked for suggestions. Here are mine that have never failed. In no order:
. Have an idea, no matter how simple before launching your DAW. If you have a crap guitar, or playschool keyboard to the finest piano or Stradivarius - come up with SOMETHING before opening the DAW. If you have nothing - and no one really has that excuse, get a card board box and beat out a rhythm. Now - open the DAW and get that idea WORKING. Make that the focus. Say it was a simple melody. Once it’s as good as it will get, now focus on anything really but, we’ll make it a bass that works with the melody. If you’re a professional and feel you ‘must’ adhere to building a low end, bass and drums first - go for it, but still do not move on before the two elements work together.
. Collaborate. Just as you say; it’s hard to get people to listen to your music. It's even harder to get a collaborator. Back in ’16 I took a ‘masterclass’ with a classical player in Berkeley, a very serious guy, and I was scared silly. Dude liked what I came up with and has offered to collaborate since. Likewise, one of the kindest guys on UA-cam (you’re also one) hated what I came up with for collaboration. My feelings weren’t hurt so much as I was surprised. We all should swallow our pride and go for it. If you know a friend who’s the greatest jazz sax player, ask him if he’ll play a riff or two. An older person whose played simple organ stuff for 50 years, go for it. Then come up with something that works with their part. Don’t assume others - regardless of skill, won’t collaborate with you.
. A famous co-founder of a Berlin software company put it best. Don’t sort of use devices. Learn them. Now I change his advice slightly. Learn ONE, at least.
I met one of the highest dudes at Microsoft at a trade show and I said “Word does more harm than good; it’s an aircraft carrier, it’s annoying to look at, it’s feature-heavy - and most folks need a canoe or cabin cruiser, not a carrier.” Guy said “Couldn’t agree more we’re re-coding to place features that aren’t used by many out of the way.”
Each big tool in audio is as hard as Word. But you should deeply learn at least one. Say you choose to learn a synth in a DAW. Learn it inside-out. If you don’t it will frustrate you every time you see it! You’ll use a tiny fraction of its power and still have no idea how to use it. I am SO guilty of this. Don’t open a version of a tool in a DAW in 2024 and frown because you know no more than you did in 2018.
Good luck to all in music, and thanks Brian, for an indispensable “this is THE video moment.”
Great points here! You are right that we probably only need to know a small percentage of the features in most things we use. I often find I like gear that does one thing really well over a lot of things kind of well.
I appreciate your thoughts and glad you enjoyed the video!
Thank you!
great video, needed to hear this, thank you
Very happy to hear it helped! Thanks!
Nicely expressed! Thanks!
Thanks! And thank you for watching!
Def needed this!
:) Thanks for watching! It's not always easy to keep in mind!!
I needed to hear this!!
I needed to put it into words, and now I need to remember to follow it!
A philosopher once said "We are condemned to choice".
It often is a condemnation!
This is why you make multiple versions.
The point is doing what's best for the song , you may like this kick more than that one but understand that it doesn't fit as well so instead of stressing about that.
Lat the music do what it wants, print the idea and let it mold into the vision you seen in your mind.
As long as the feeling is there you could change the whole track and now it's a completely different piece of art but it has that feeling from your vision
I do this a lot in the mixing stage. I create a mix, and listen to it in various places. I compare it to other similar songs and see how I feel about my choices. I used to think there was a "right" way to mix a track, but as I started doing this, I realized that a mix is a choice. It's a way of presenting a song. Sometimes the drums need to be overly loud and aggressive other times, even in the same genre, they sound better more tame. I like to think of the mix as an interpretation.
@@BrianFunkMusic exactly what it is, okay if I was listening to this here or here how would it sound interesting to me as a listener instead as a creator.
One thing some people forget to do is have a transcript of the choices they make.
Always right things down when you make decisions you feel as though could be essential so If you don't like it u can change it
@@Theonlyoneto Great idea. I should start doing that too!
@@BrianFunkMusic this is why it's important to have these conversations
Super Insightful man!! 🙌🙌 Really needed this!!
Thanks! I could use this reminder from time to time too!!
I notice I move much better when I produce or write with people because there is no time to second guess and u have to flow. I know some people that stream producing so they get the same effect of being watched when they’re on their own. Have to be more instinctive with choices.
I recently had that exact thing happen to me during a band practice. We were coming up with a song and as my energy was dropping, I was able to feed off of the other band members'. It helped me power through and finish some lyrics on the spot. Live streaming is the same way. You can't really start browsing the web or checking your phone if it feels like people are watching you! Great point, thanks!
so true.
I really needed to hear this, thank you
Very happy it helped! Thanks for watching!
such good advice!! thanks so much
You're welcome thanks for watching!
Big up Brian
Great video!! 🙏
Thank you :)
Brilliant video!!
Thanks @leonmarxmusic! I appreciate it!
Great👏
I really needed to hear this. thanks man.
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much!!🎉
You're welcome!!!
Thank you ! Great video !
Thank you for watching!
Brilliant video, thank you for this!
Thanks :) I'm really happy you enjoyed it!
Thank you. I needed to hear this for sooooo long now 🙏
Thanks for watching!
🔥Thank you! I needed that. Happy music finishing ✌️
Awesome! Good luck! Thanks!
great video on this subject...thank you for this.
Thanks and you're welcome!!
Fantastic advice, subscribed of course
Thanks Ricardo!
Thank u, bro. It was the better thing I could hear today!
Great to hear! Thanks :)
just amazing! thank you so much bro 💛
Thank you for watching :) :)
Thank you for this
You’re welcome!
I needed to hear this! Thank you so much for making this video! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 you got a new sub here!
Thanks for watching and subbing! I am happy to hear this helped a bit!!
God I needed this ❤
glad we had this chat. Thanks! :)
Me too! Any time!
thanks for sharing this
My pleasure!!
This is so my life now! I needed to hear this.
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!
An incredible helpful video!!! Thank you so much!
You're welcome!!
Amazing video ! Thanks so much ! :D
You're very welcome!
Ideas may be gold, but execution turns the ore into the ring.
Nicely put!
Well said.
:)
Amazing video, such good advice for not just creators but everyone 💪🏻
Thanks! It applies to lots of things!
🙏thanks , really good talking
Glad you enjoyed it; thanks for listening!
This is an absolute gem of a video. Thank you for the insight and analogies. I'd love to see more content like this
Thanks! I appreciate it! It was fun to make. Lots of this kind of stuff on the Music Production Podcast :)
Absolutely agree with you. I also feel overwhelmed by the amount of choices that there are. Having follow through is more important than before. Thanks for the video.
The choice overwhelm is probably my biggest problem. Sometimes it helps to think like a chef. When a chef cooks, they get their ingredients together and start cooking. They don't have every possible ingredient ever out on the table. Same with a painter. They have a palette of colors, not every color imaginable. We have everything imaginable at our fingertips. It's important to narrow down our options!
Thank you so much
Thanks for watching!
There are a lot of good points in the video. The menu thing in the video is like those people who follow thousands of news accounts or news websites. It's the fear of missing out, widely known as FOMO. I was always hunting for news until I experienced burnout (not only caused by news, also some serious circumstances). I have cut out most of these interests and now follow the joy of missing out, known as JOMO.
Music helped me with it. I came back to making music after 20 years during the pandemic. Now, I dare to release through SoundCloud. The tracks are normally not that what "high level producers" would call "perfect". But I make music for myself. If there are people enjoying my music, I am happy with it. So, I decided to get things done in terms of music. And this is a lot of fun.
That's a great attitude! I think it probably comes through in your music too. There will be a spirit of fun and adventure. I love the idea of JOMO! In a sea of endless options, it makes what we choose special!
Everything in our world is trying to claim our attention. So we really have to protect it. Thanks for your thoughtS!!
Very true and beautifully expressed
🙏👍
Very insightful. Well said.
I appreciate it and thanks for watching!
Words of wisdom, thank you much sir!
You're welcome :) Thanks for checking it out!
You're amazing. Instantly subscribed. Thank you sir. More videos like this please.
I appreciate it! Thanks for watching and spreading some positivity!
Your book has helped tremendously. Thank you Brian
I'm so happy to hear that! It makes all the blood, sweat, and tears it took to make it worth it! And I don't just mean the writing process; I'm also talking about having to actually fail over and over again to learn those lessons and techniques. I appreciate the feedback :)
Great way to look at this. I could watch this once a month to keep it in my head!
Yea me too! It's one thing to understand it intellectually, but putting it into practice can be tough! Thanks for watching!
Thank you brother
My pleasure!
Excellent points. Personally I can finalise the musical arrangement side quite quickly and be quite decisive, it's the mixing that takes me time.
I even forgot he was talking about music. Goddamn
A lot of times it feels like music becomes the metaphor for life in general. Those are my favorite conversations I have on the Music Production Podcast!
This is so real!!
As real as the day is long!!! Thanks!
Excellent video!!!
Thanks!!
This was incredibly insightful & very well articulated. Great video, Brian.
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Absolute gems in here - excellent advice!
Thanks for watching!!