Floyd Shivambu joins MK Party: What has changed?

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  • @magezieric6254
    @magezieric6254 26 днів тому +39

    Shivambu not fully resign is just borrowed to mk to help them drafting political constitution 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @luckymaphwanya8146
      @luckymaphwanya8146 26 днів тому +5

      You are correct this is deployment of the EFF to MKP

    • @phumlamazibuko3003
      @phumlamazibuko3003 26 днів тому

      That's your opinion

    • @butler2149
      @butler2149 26 днів тому +2

      Politics doesn't work like that

    • @nomalungelongcete5875
      @nomalungelongcete5875 26 днів тому +1

      ​@butler2149
      How does it work?

    • @mthokozisilanga4497
      @mthokozisilanga4497 26 днів тому +2

      Do you think that Malema can talk about her mother’s death,comparing it to the “fake” resignation of Shibamvu. Come on, that too cheap. Shibamvu has left the sinking boat of the EFF.

  • @jbmzala
    @jbmzala 26 днів тому +24

    It was well handled and very dignified

  • @russelsibanda332
    @russelsibanda332 26 днів тому +13

    It's a chess game pipol don't panic EFF and Mk are one thing

  • @jeffreyzengeya1649
    @jeffreyzengeya1649 25 днів тому +5

    I think Ebrahim Fakir has really given an eye opening insight

  • @jameskillu9171
    @jameskillu9171 26 днів тому +6

    ZUMA eyes are on ANC.Half of ANC not happy with GNU will join MK

  • @sduduzoshange5477
    @sduduzoshange5477 26 днів тому +9

    please bring political analysts that are neutral in their analysis

    • @teeletsetse445
      @teeletsetse445 25 днів тому +1

      You mean one that shares your position?

    • @PrettyBoi_ZA
      @PrettyBoi_ZA 25 днів тому +1

      Smh 🤦🏾‍♂️ how more neutral do you want them to be???

    • @albanyjerry
      @albanyjerry 25 днів тому

      The one who is not partisan.

  • @sibongileviolet887
    @sibongileviolet887 26 днів тому +29

    MK n EFF r playing games, Floyd will never leave his organization. Zuma is a chess player just watch n wait a beautiful outcome frm this. Anyway, i love MK n EFF 2GEDA.

    • @AndrewMcFarlane_1
      @AndrewMcFarlane_1 26 днів тому +3

      A chess player to stay out of jail and to loot

    • @silaskhalishwayo
      @silaskhalishwayo 26 днів тому

      ​@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 like white who stole land and resources

    • @molefiramatheko4795
      @molefiramatheko4795 26 днів тому +3

      😂😂 your dreams are baseless are you trying to make your chest pains better 😅eff is finished Vuka domkop

    • @mthokozisilanga4497
      @mthokozisilanga4497 26 днів тому

      They are playing games in your mind. You guys are so much in denial that I feel pity for you.🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @margaretlesoleso
      @margaretlesoleso 26 днів тому +1

      Enough of this "chess player" theory 😱😱😱😱😱

  • @Mafhuwa
    @Mafhuwa 24 дні тому

    Floyd stabilized ANCYL, stabilized and formalized EFF and EFFSC, now on to MKP. This man is a national treasure when it comes to politicking. I have gained so much respect for Floyd.

  • @janomesteve3129
    @janomesteve3129 26 днів тому +5

    Floyd is the future MK president

    • @dumisanisibanda7772
      @dumisanisibanda7772 26 днів тому +1

      True

    • @craigclifton7254
      @craigclifton7254 25 днів тому

      Julius promised him minister of finance 😢 Zuma believes he is a monarch a Zulu king! Like Mugabe

  • @AndrewMcFarlane_1
    @AndrewMcFarlane_1 26 днів тому +12

    EFF and MK are good at using big hollow words to fool their supporters

  • @khatmanworld
    @khatmanworld 26 днів тому +4

    MK as yet doesn't have a "face" like EFF does. Floyd will stabilise and thrive with MK.

  • @MakhaolaNdebele
    @MakhaolaNdebele 26 днів тому +2

    So well put Ebrahim Fakir! 6:05 Crisis of politics in South Africa.... people don't actually believe in what they claim or profess to believe.

  • @terancenzuza6104
    @terancenzuza6104 26 днів тому +3

    mainstream meadia struggles to catch up with the narrative on the ground.....and cannot influence it either

  • @LitaMyataza
    @LitaMyataza 26 днів тому +15

    Destroying GNU systematically. Malema, Floyd and JZ will leave you eating a humble pie.

  • @mahlubonkemakunga3315
    @mahlubonkemakunga3315 26 днів тому +17

    One of the most brilliant analysts in our country.

  • @LeonRamkumar
    @LeonRamkumar 26 днів тому +3

    I'm sure there won't be a clash of egos in the MK. Interesting times regardless. It's good though, that this is happening in the opposition space, and won't impact government and the running of the country. The politics of personalities are hopefully in the past.

  • @khayakeys8498
    @khayakeys8498 26 днів тому +7

    this guy reminds me of eusibias mackaizer

  • @matomekgatle4023
    @matomekgatle4023 26 днів тому +2

    Insightful guest. Thank you

  • @GeorgeMosenthal
    @GeorgeMosenthal 26 днів тому +10

    This have everything to do with the charges facing this suspects

  • @TrayTray24
    @TrayTray24 26 днів тому +4

    Nothing is ever guaranteed or set in stone! Hai! 😅

  • @freefirelegend369
    @freefirelegend369 24 дні тому

    You got it wrong bro. EFF never hated President JZ, but differed with him fundamental

  • @georgenyamani8393
    @georgenyamani8393 26 днів тому +3

    When ANC gets in bed with DA it's good, MK and EFF is strange arrangement, how?

    • @cheznone9296
      @cheznone9296 25 днів тому

      From all the utterances to date - ANC and all those aligned with them politically want NOTHING to do GNU coalition. It came as a terrible shock that they got a slap in the face. Now they like ants in a nest when someone pokes a stock into their secret environment. The major issue is discovery, there are things that should never see the light of day. So they forming a laager and closing ranks.

  • @georgiedavids7599
    @georgiedavids7599 26 днів тому +4

    Well spoken

  • @ThokozaniM
    @ThokozaniM 26 днів тому +1

    It about the land the country we want it All back

  • @iKotoyi
    @iKotoyi 25 днів тому

    If you read politics carefully u will know this is just a movie and writers wanted this outcome.. Your speaker is 100 percent correct..SAns has problem of believing everything & anything in face value no wonder are taken 4 a ride more often then not. RIP VBS

  • @Acton65
    @Acton65 26 днів тому +6

    Excellent Analysis. Sober and clear. Thank you!

  • @dumisanisibanda7772
    @dumisanisibanda7772 26 днів тому +2

    Where did they get this analyst. Waste of time

  • @thabanimkhatshwa
    @thabanimkhatshwa 26 днів тому +2

    How are these analysts chosen

  • @jbmzala
    @jbmzala 26 днів тому +9

    Poor analysis by this guy.

  • @joseyndaba5076
    @joseyndaba5076 26 днів тому +1

    "Farse"...Ebrahim Fakir, you wish...Admit it, in all your supposed brilliant discernment, you never saw this coming. Resorting to ridicule is not going to change the fact that a new force is forming and it's happening in a manner you never imagined possible.

  • @Smiley0725
    @Smiley0725 26 днів тому +1

    Moving from one incompetent party to another one

  • @larasilson6040
    @larasilson6040 25 днів тому

    Shivambo and Malema have a plan.. why do u think malema not appointing a new Dp yet.. they have a plan along with ZUMA..

  • @mishacknthane1060
    @mishacknthane1060 25 днів тому

    This guy is a very sharp analyst

  • @junitaclarke3827
    @junitaclarke3827 26 днів тому +4

    EFF should start working for theire 9 percent voters and stop with all this drama and noise making.For me this is all a mascerade.EFF and MK will merge as one at the end of the day .

    • @molefiramatheko4795
      @molefiramatheko4795 26 днів тому

      😂😂😂 you wish where have you seen two hooligans power mongers emerging victorious 😮

    • @levikalombo1630
      @levikalombo1630 26 днів тому

      You think 9 percent is all they got?
      Just remember out 27 million registered voters. Only 20 million voted. 7 million were turnt away . Cause queues were too long.

  • @clicksolutions3074
    @clicksolutions3074 25 днів тому

    the move is a political game by the master stratigic master.
    very good move

  • @mcebisimbusi7777
    @mcebisimbusi7777 26 днів тому

    Look Mr Analysis in the politics we dint enemies stay strong

  • @colleengreenthompson6095
    @colleengreenthompson6095 26 днів тому +1

    I was wondering that as well.... something is going on ...hmmmmm

  • @tshepomoleko6708
    @tshepomoleko6708 25 днів тому

    What if the EFF is strategically merging with the MK party and Floyd is being used as a bridge to ensure that the process runs smoothly without hiccups?

  • @TheArtOfWarStrategy
    @TheArtOfWarStrategy 25 днів тому

    Stop bringing sober analyst we want those ones who will insult the EFF and MK this one will reveal or expose the perfect plan by unnecessary doubts Floyd is gone simple.

  • @daveapter
    @daveapter 26 днів тому +7

    MK will eat EFF.
    MK will then eat itself.

    • @phumlamazibuko3003
      @phumlamazibuko3003 26 днів тому +2

      Plz take your meds

    • @phumlamazibuko3003
      @phumlamazibuko3003 26 днів тому +3

      Plz take amaphilisi usuguli mpela😳

    • @nomalungelongcete5875
      @nomalungelongcete5875 26 днів тому

      Yhuuuuuu 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @okellolester1631
      @okellolester1631 26 днів тому +1

      Might be prophetic

    • @Ngutu15
      @Ngutu15 26 днів тому

      Let me Rectify you!!! MK and EFF will form a very strong alliance then swallow a now weakling ANC whole. Thereafter, emancipate black people!!!!

  • @mtha4996
    @mtha4996 26 днів тому +12

    This guy is a hater 😂😂 yoh

  • @nkosinathizondo4375
    @nkosinathizondo4375 26 днів тому +1

    Politricks

  • @thulubhekemiya2988
    @thulubhekemiya2988 25 днів тому

    They isn't a permanent political enemies or friends

  • @ThembaTsela
    @ThembaTsela 25 днів тому

    You are all confused making wild guess.
    Floyd has resigned, he is now MK.
    DP position to be contested in Dec.

  • @erickumalo2372
    @erickumalo2372 25 днів тому

    It was really a shocking and very sad moment

  • @makhandakhandantombela4197
    @makhandakhandantombela4197 26 днів тому +1

    the analyst is talking bull dust

  • @leenaidoo2322
    @leenaidoo2322 26 днів тому

    a planned exit and links well to the removal of the 18 mps on the MKs part.. I feel bad for the aspiring MK founders.. This is going to go down badly for MK and the EFF .. an implosion is my analysis.

  • @victoriavh6486
    @victoriavh6486 25 днів тому

    Umvile u Malema uthini uthi naxa ephinda abuela back kwi eff wamkelekile Korea abanye bona xa bebuya back abamkelekanga means guys likhona eliyelenqe bafuna ukulenza eff ne mkp Linda wena uzobona kudlalwa I chess apha kuzanywa ukuchithwa I anc

  • @robertmatsebe3718
    @robertmatsebe3718 26 днів тому

    It is preparation for amalgamation of the two in response to the current political landscapes and ongoing charges for survival.

  • @MBReader410
    @MBReader410 26 днів тому

    They coalescing in a way that keeps EFF seats + MK seats.

  • @sthembilenkomo2669
    @sthembilenkomo2669 26 днів тому +4

    Your analyst must know this one thing. We have never had Fuedalism in Africa particularly in South Africa. It is wrong of your analyst to characterised that which is said by MK as Feudalism because at no time in history have we had a relationship between the kings and their that portrays itself as feudalism.
    Your analyst must not therefore read the European history of kings and subjects and use it to judge our kings and subjects setting.
    We have never in history had kings in Southern Africa who were scavenging on it subjects.
    That's why not one of our kings was ever killed by its subjects for freedom as it has happened in Europe.
    Your analyst is using Twitter opinions as his think tank and his only view is that of fuedalism which is completely wrong.

    • @AndrewMcFarlane_1
      @AndrewMcFarlane_1 26 днів тому

      😂😂 Zuma is the face of feudalism in SA

    • @harley1450ification
      @harley1450ification 26 днів тому

      Tribalism 2.0. Zuma and his acolytes, sycophants and lackeys within the ANC structures, brought our country to it's knees, through corruption, cadres and pure incompetence. He now wishes to continue the destruction through revolutionary ideals. South Africa wants better. We will continue to vote for better. Imagine, this chaotic MKP seeks to take over governance. I shudder.

  • @JusticeMello
    @JusticeMello 26 днів тому

    There are two schools of analysts - Steven Friedman, prof Malukele tend to tell you want they think evidence before them suggests on the other hand you will have prof Ndletyana, Ebrahim Fakir and others who spin something to an anti-narrative.
    Here Fakir is saying things that are correct only in as far as one has an intention to spin when in reality, this moment cannot be understood in the absence of intelligence vis a vis the recruitment of Shivambu.
    It's true that one cannot place the move from EFF to MKP for Shivambu in the absence of clear policy for the MKP. IOW you cannot say he is leaving EFF because it is better here or there. So if you take that view, Shivambu is moving as "to consolidate" his defence against VBS - as laughable as that proposition is.
    Another prism by which to see this though is, Shivambu has been offered a position to write MKP policy which then would mean instead of moving as a defence against VBS, he is moving to create a party in his own image.
    Second, now that Shivambu has left the EFF analysts are saying he had greater VBS criminal exposure than Malema. That is just nonsense.
    If there is criminal jeopardy in VBS for Shivambu, it is greater for Malema because for instance, available evidence suggests that of the two the greatest portion of the R16m VBS went to Malema. Shivambu even sent a huge chunk of what was given to him to Malema - if available evidence is true.
    At any rate, its utter stupidity to say that Malema would wish to throw Shivambu under the bus vis a vis VBS because clearly Shivambu knows where all the VBS skeletons are buried. Allienating Shivambu would be too risky for Malema.
    Analysis by Ebrahim Fakir is just fake news, absolute rubbish.
    There's other nonsense about these two parties being not dissimilar vis a vis one-man shows... this too is nonsense.
    MKP is less than a year old, has no structure, no literature IOW Zuma is all that while EFF is 11-y-o has a complete structure but Malema chooses to override it. IOW we know Malema is a dictator while Zuma might be a dictator. What is now and what could be in future are two different things.
    Second, Malema is only 2y older than Shivambu while Zuma is twice Malema's age. IOW if both Zuma and Malema are dictators, Zuma won't be one in the next 10y while Malema will/ and could still be for the next 40.
    If I were Shivambu and I had two dictators in front on me, I would choose one who potentially hasn't much longer to live than one who is my age.
    Analysis is about evaluating available evidence to deduct what it could mean on both sides, then deciding which of the two is most probable.
    If a dictator were to recruit me to come write the constitution for his party, I too would go there write myself into that constitution, write out the dictator then pray he will respect the constitution. He might not but even so, he is 86y-o, and probably will be out of my hair in 4. There's no way Zuma will still be mentally agile at 90. He has already become quite forgetful... he will stop in the middle of the sentence because some word has escaped him. When he said "political something something" it wasn't Generation Z speak... he forgot what he wanted to say.
    If Malema is a dictator today and doesn't respect the EFF constitution today, there's no hope he will in future while if Zuma is an MKP dictator today, there is hope he might respect the constitution once it is there and if he doesn't we all know he won't be around much to be such dictator still.
    So clearly, the pull to join MKP is great for anyone who has ambition instead of sitting it out in the EFF - is Malema is a dictator, especially. Secondly, if MKP can muster 4m votes without much of a presence is EC, WC, NC, Limpopo - then surely is political future is brighter than that of the EFF. Third, Zuma has adult children and has not favoured them to inherit MKP so as things stand, Shivambu stands a reasonable chance of leading MKP someday soon. For all we know, if both men are dictators, Malema will hand EFF over to Ratanang in the near future.
    There are seriously compelling strategic and political reasons to bet on MKP than on EFF for any leader at the minute.

  • @mzothulemsezane2703
    @mzothulemsezane2703 26 днів тому +1

    What a poor analysis from this guy!

  • @erickumalo2372
    @erickumalo2372 25 днів тому

    You guys must remember that Floyd is not just any member in the EFF but a literal owner of the organization, and even those official channels you talking about what if he's the one who help set them ⤴

  • @thulubhekemiya2988
    @thulubhekemiya2988 25 днів тому

    Us EFF and MK is one party those are Malema words

  • @HarwardMbonxa
    @HarwardMbonxa 26 днів тому +4

    The ultimate political objective here is to merge EFF and MK under the leadership of Floyd and the CIC and this is good and exciting for Black politics and lest we forget that uMsholozi was once a head of ANC Intelligence and this have contributed to the destruction of ANC aNd today Ramadollar ANC has been reduced to a mere 40%.
    As South Africans we know such analysts like this indian analysts are not happy about this development and sad they will never succeed in EFF and MK merger,this is same analyst that supports and defended phala phala scandal.

    • @mvubu6823
      @mvubu6823 26 днів тому +1

      you think the ZUMA kids are going to let that happen?

    • @HarwardMbonxa
      @HarwardMbonxa 26 днів тому +1

      @@mvubu6823 they will and sorry for your disappointment.

    • @FilmDecoded000
      @FilmDecoded000 26 днів тому +2

      @@HarwardMbonxa the EFF is dying

    • @premiumteacher742
      @premiumteacher742 26 днів тому

      You spot on about this analyst subjective hate views. His unhappiness is going to be along journey he must brace himself. Zuma is an organic intellectual. Contrary to their perpetual crap that he is an illiterate. I will keep challenging that stereo type mindset of people who think they are literate yet the most illiterate. They must find the definition of illiterate. Pres Zuma represents the very views of the names he dropped Steve Biko, Fanon & most importantly Chris Hani, Painful fact for some of them the constitution will be reviewed. Viva MK.

    • @kabelomolisana8580
      @kabelomolisana8580 26 днів тому

      This analyst sounds very bitter and negative. I also can sense some level of arrogance

  • @clicksolutions3074
    @clicksolutions3074 25 днів тому

    i disagree with the analist

  • @edwilljohannes4599
    @edwilljohannes4599 26 днів тому +1

    You can not change things while remaining the same yourself. All the Best Floyd follow your heart.

  • @abudlkader927
    @abudlkader927 26 днів тому

    Was the VBS saga not the reason 4 his resignation 😢😢😢

  • @hloghika6063
    @hloghika6063 25 днів тому

    The Big question: Is the Chess master building a country/government?

  • @harveyfuqua6633
    @harveyfuqua6633 25 днів тому

    Ebrahim Fakir is not convinced. He just thinks that it's just an attention-seeking exercise.

  • @dineshanpillay5944
    @dineshanpillay5944 26 днів тому +8

    Vbs looter gonna get pointers from the gupta looting party on how to get away

  • @jonibegood7870
    @jonibegood7870 25 днів тому

    EFF & MK are both KAK!

  • @mthokozisilanga4497
    @mthokozisilanga4497 26 днів тому

    Do you think that Malema can talk about her mother’s death,comparing it to the “fake” resignation of Shibamvu. Come on, that too cheap. Shibamvu has left the sinking boat of the EFF.

    • @thabitakgobe7726
      @thabitakgobe7726 25 днів тому

      Only the comparison his late makes it serious...I don't know about the sinking.

  • @tebugomajombozi1197
    @tebugomajombozi1197 26 днів тому

    "Do these people have any serious political ideological commitments?" What say you the Jacob Zuma and EFF cultists?

  • @valsables5299
    @valsables5299 26 днів тому

    BLACKS LIKE SHOWS LIKE THIS. LIKE THEIR CHURCH SERVICES.

  • @user-wk6tx1wl3l
    @user-wk6tx1wl3l 25 днів тому

    This man doesn't know what his talking about

  • @louismzobe3073
    @louismzobe3073 26 днів тому

    It's ouroboros!!!

  • @lm9609
    @lm9609 26 днів тому +2

    the analyst was talking nonsense , please get someone better next time

  • @thembelemakaula554
    @thembelemakaula554 25 днів тому

    What a waste of time

  • @premiumteacher742
    @premiumteacher742 26 днів тому +1

    He's sarcasism really takes away possibilities of some of us the woke seeing him as smart analyst. Hes is an analysist of the right wing period.

  • @angelabaxter6298
    @angelabaxter6298 26 днів тому

    Does Floyd have voter support?

    • @Thatsong-fr9nq
      @Thatsong-fr9nq 26 днів тому +1

      Yes mostly graduates and middle class

  • @biggiebig7602
    @biggiebig7602 26 днів тому

    The straw that broke the camel's back
    Now juju knows what that means

  • @user-wh9zg8np1s
    @user-wh9zg8np1s 26 днів тому +1

    Party ka Baba

  • @MBReader410
    @MBReader410 26 днів тому

    Marriage with separate bank accounts.

  • @GeorgeMosenthal
    @GeorgeMosenthal 26 днів тому +2

    What game is these crooks playing 😅

  • @revelationpowerhour9149
    @revelationpowerhour9149 26 днів тому

    Same shit. 💩
    What miracles will he do WHICH he has not done ✔️ at the EFF. 😂😂

  • @gago-fj7hu
    @gago-fj7hu 26 днів тому +1

    So,EFF absorbing MK??

  • @SibusisoMthimkhulu-zm2kz
    @SibusisoMthimkhulu-zm2kz 26 днів тому

    Anoke nithi anazi ngoba vele in real life anazi ngihlezi ningo I suspect or I think nibaluleke ngani kanti kulelizwe sadlala amambuka manje

  • @MabasaChikanda-in4kv
    @MabasaChikanda-in4kv 26 днів тому

    It's a planned thing

  • @LafamiliaSwag
    @LafamiliaSwag 26 днів тому +4

    This guy use big words, but his not saying anything constructive. His confused.

  • @WilliamsKofiAHORLU
    @WilliamsKofiAHORLU 26 днів тому +1

    How can this be true???

  • @lancencube5205
    @lancencube5205 26 днів тому +2

    This analyst is just crazy and chose misrepresent MK

  • @monicakieck7501
    @monicakieck7501 26 днів тому +1

    Carreer politicians; agenda: tenderpreneurship

  • @Charlescharles-m1y
    @Charlescharles-m1y 26 днів тому +1

    Were instructed to invite a captured and bias commentator

  • @janchristiaanpeens4470
    @janchristiaanpeens4470 25 днів тому

    Shivamba needs protection.He thinks Zuma can protect him from going to jail

  • @MabasaChikanda-in4kv
    @MabasaChikanda-in4kv 26 днів тому

    Talking rubbish

  • @mivanovic
    @mivanovic 25 днів тому

    Shivambu proudly joins the ranks of MK crooks, looters and tainted politicians and judges. Truly a revolutionary disciplined move by the EFF comrade🤣🤣🤣

  • @Papito_ZA
    @Papito_ZA 26 днів тому

    Hey Naledi 😢 , na mohlahisi ha aa u bolella tletlebo ea ka ka reng eo ea lehlohonolo? masoabi ke poulelo ea ho bua .. tšepa o tla u thabisa, kea tseba hore nka be ke entse joalo 😂...

  • @artistic-wordplay
    @artistic-wordplay 26 днів тому

    This Ebrahim Fakir guy doesn't know what agenda to push.
    The EFF is the most media-friendly political party on this continent. They transparently communicate their inner-happenings with the public. Announcing a co-founder's resignation formally in a press conference is a sign of professionalism and dignity. It mitigates against unnecessary chaotic rumours and provides a level of clarity. This Ebrahim Fakir guy has some nefarious agenda here...