"At its core, photography is much more about _being,_ seeing, doing, showing up, than it is about setting menu options." I *love* it. Truer words were never spoken, Hugh. Oh, and I want one of those "No Futzing Zone" T-shirts! Cheers, Stephen
I got the sl 601 this year and I'm totally in love with it. I never had this strong bond with a piece of equipment. It's the perfect blend of minimalistic user design, build and image quality. it feels like made for a lifetime
Hugh Once again you have managed to make we watch a 36 minute video on a camera system that I will never own! Well played sir, well played 😀 With regards to your CL, remember “what is yours is mine, and what is mine is mine” only applies to wives... Make the t-shirt! And with regards to making use of what you already have and not needing to change, that will definitely be my position once my X-Pro3 arrives. Keep up the great work!
I really enjoy your videos, and have alway wanted a Leica. So after hours of research and watching every video I could I have purchased my first Leica, a SL2. I am a designer, and love everything about the design of this camera. You sir, have so eloquently stated that owning a Leica is about the experience, and you are correct. Thank you for taking the time to post these videos
Hugh you consistently have the most thoughtful reviews and I especially like how you encourage viewers to do what is best for them instead of pushing for everyone to join the rat race. Additionally you don’t call every new camera the best and honesty prevails whatever the strengths and weaknesses may be of any one camera. Keep up the great work and cheers!
Today..... I received my "Hold that thought" tee-shirt (I'm in the UK). It is BEAUTIFUL ! Seriously, I love the feel of the material, it is super quality and it fits me PERFECTLY ! (medium). Thank you sooooo much ! Now...... all I want is a Leica SL2......hold that thought !
And same here, dozens of Nikon bodies last 30 years, sold them all with like 20 lenses. I thought I could do without but I don't. I think I will go for the SL2-s and two primes.
Thank you for your video, Hugh! Questions on the SL2 - (1) How is the eye AF? (2) Can the AF keep up with people moving, like a wedding march? (3) How well does camera perform in low light? (4) Can shooting settings be preset and assigned to buttons (C1-C3)? (5) Compared to Nikon/Canon cameras, is there equal amount of post editing in Photoshop or Capture One? We liked the Nikon Z7’s image quality, but did not like its eye AF or its low light capability. We also liked the Panasonic S1. That camera can see in the dark. However, the AF was suspect. And, its image was not as good as the Nikon Z7.
As an SL user for some time, I enjoyed the four button layout as well as long press shortcut a lot, it feels minimalistic and in my opinion better than the current 3 button design that favors videography, and I rarely have to take my right thumb off the joystick, now with SL2 it might be less possible to do so. Also, I really want to know the issues in SL has or has not been addressed in SL2, (with 24-90mm SL lens) such as the noticeable noise above ISO 1600, unable to turned off Long Exposure Noise Reduction which lead to additional wait time equal to the amount of exposure time. Less appealing jpeg direct output that will require tuning dng in lightroom in order to be visually appealing. And more, hopefully you can help investigate. Thank you very much.
Brilliant video Hugh!! Regardless if I can afford it or if I really needed, it s a pleasure to watch the whole video. It s really personal, it s about why you (we) love what you (we) love in life. Your change of screen from b&w and color, then back to b&w, gave an illusion that a past you and a present you speak at the same time! Well done Hugh! I know I m not going to buy it after I finished watching it, but i know for sure I will remember your video for long time to come because there are so many wisdom in it no one can buy with money. I love your saying photographer is about ‘ Being, Seeing, Doing, and Showing up, not about setting the manual ‘ lol how much simpler can it be?! Thx Man! Will come back watching what ever you post !
What can be said about Leica better than you already said it??? For an amateur shooter like myself, a camera such as the SL2 is the Holy Grail of photography/ videography equipment, truly the Rolls Royce of the photog world. Leica has been the itch I never can scratch since I took Photography back in 83 in high school. I had a chance to shoot a few rolls of Kodak Black and White through a Leica just to see how I liked it and it was phenomenal. I can't even remember the designation for it now, been so long ago. All l knew then it was the Holy Grail and still is, and that I never became rich and famous and still am on a Pentax K1000 Budget. Photogs like yourself whom get to use all this wonderful equipment, I am quite frankly envious of you. I applaud you though for being able to work with all this equipment and the photos/ videos you get to shoot with it. I sure would love to be in your shoes. I still yet have an infinity for Black and White photography, and would love to be able to go shoot a ton of it, and I know today's cameras are more than capable, as long as that is programmed into the firmware. Photography has come along way since I bought my first camera all those years ago. Good shooting.
The music, the running water, you just took me back to Vermont in the Autumn of 2005!, Driving the back roads I heard running water, I stopped the car and went down to the stream, surrounded by nature and just the water making any noise!, I felt like my soul left my body. Thank you for bringing back those memories.
"Colors" Agree! I didn't know if that was just me? The prelim review over at DPReview also shows off amazing color. I'd like to know if that's SOC or a LUT in post?
In fact, you only need the price of a Nikon D5 or Canon 1D-X. Now, the Leica glass will cost (but Nikon's copy of the Leica Noctolux f 0.95 is around 8 grand...). BUT, Leica did create the L Alliance which, as a result, lets you use Sigma or Lumix glass for a much lower cost, and still give you excellent images.
Leica does a great job of balancing a Bauhaus-like design approach with just enough ergonomics and thus gives their cameras such an elegant appearance.
Well, we knew this was coming as soon as I bought my SL in June. Right? Of course we did. As you know, my SL has had quite a workout in the 5 short months I've owned it. It's covered a lot of ground...literally. Thanks for the early and careful coverage of the upgrades. Here're a few thoughts. The improved weather sealing. Yes! And you know exactly why I say that. I like, really like, the 4 unmarked buttons on the back. Hate to see those go. The back is so clean. But, ok. The improved grip; are we sure we needed that? I haven't had an issue with the grip, but I'm game if it is indeed a value add. I only hope that it doesn't somehow muck up the aesthetics. Speaking of aesthetics, until I heard it here and immediately pulled mine from my bag to see for myself, I never - not once - realized that the covering didn't extend to the front. How the heck did I not notice? Thanks for saying you hadn't noticed, too. I took some comfort from that. And now this, yes, I'm already casting out feelers for a trade-in. No surprise, huh? Wait. One more thing before I go. No, you do not have a CL. You had one. Past tense. Claudia has one. As always, cheers! Keep up the great work, man.
Hugh I have loved and probably watched every video you have posted. In a world with a video is only good if it goes viral. I appreciate you, your art and the great content you publish. On my bucket list is to do a photo walk with you some day very soon. I just recently bought my first Leica. A Leica SL2S. This camera has is changing my life each and every time I pick it up. And it is not far from my hand at any given moment. Please never stop doing what you do. You do it with class and great creative vision. Thank Hugh.
Watched your video for first 7:13 min, had to go to ballet class:) I have to give a ‘man, what a video!’ May be your best one, even I will come back to finish it:) I just love your inside emotion about something much deeper than a camera. Is it not what need in this world today? Bravo!! Later:) The only bad thing is, you made me thinking what I can sale from my house to buy this camera, even I just watch 7:13 min...:)) I m not joking !
I just got my hands on a used SL2 and so far really impressed. One thing I noticed is that the joystick feels a little loose/delicate, like it has more play than I'd expect. Did you notice the same thing, or is it perhaps just the one I got? Ie, am I just going to end up buying a brand new one, since there's no going back now that I've put my hands on one of these beauties?
My question about this whole L mount thing is, do Sigma and Leica provide DFD profiles for their lenses? Does Panasonic engineer them for the other two manufacturers' lenses, or is it restricted to Panasonic branded glass like on MFT? Most of the time it won't make a huge difference, but seeing the growing activity for the L mount makes me wonder how that'll all develop. Also, the TL is definitely up there in terms of just beautiful body designs - would love to own one, but let's be realistic.. And please, next time you visit Leica in Germany - see if you can make a stop here in Sweden. We've got.. stuff!
Professor Brownstone, I love attending your lectures. Thank you, once more. I’d like to comment because I’m a professional marketer and artist, as well as, a budding pro photographer. I have a pulse on culture. I also, love luxury items that I can’t afford, for this argument, let me mention Porsche and Rolex. No one on earth needs a Porsche for transportation or a Rolex to tell time. Yet they thrive in their markets. You know why, as I do, desirability, simple as that. As long as Leica keeps referencing themselves against “for the masses” competition it will be compared so. Does Rolex compare themselves to Seiko or Apple Watch? It’s a fair argument that the completion is in a very measurable way, better. Maybe much better. As an Apple Watch is arguably better than a Rolex. Leica needs to ditch the concepts of the ordinary and develop a discernible difference that makes it a Bugatti, instead of a utilitarian mode of transportation. If we use the same metaphor, it could a Range Rover. Or a Bentley. Or a Jeep. Doesn’t matter. But all those brands have specific niches and ride that understanding to amazing success. Leica has heritage that only Nikon can maybe touch. But the Japanese brands are like Honda’s. Leica is a Porsche. Badass to the bone. And like a Porsche or a Rolex, you can actually beat on it. It’s not just a pretty item for display. We all want them because we have to have it. Take the R and D funds and give it something “special”. Something the others will only wish they could have. They all take pics, but a Leica makes you a Rock Star! The voices we hear are yours and your company of influencers. Anyone can say it’s “just a camera”. But you know the difference and so do they... Leica, I wish you great success and indefinite longevity. (And I want one, badly. And will have one someday. Why? Just gotta have it.. ) Cheers...😎📷
Johannes R. H. Your point is correct and it could be anything else that makes a Leica special. But that’s just it, it still is special. If we continue the car analogies, many cars and watches and other luxury items are forgiven when they are flawed in any certain area, because what is “special” is still special even with the flaws. If the Leica was the only camera that existed we’d celebrate it with it’s own annual holiday. My point is, it’s good. Very good. Maybe great when taking all the factors into account. Build, handing, Herritage, performance and most of all pictures. The “drive experience” is unmatched with every Leica ever made, from the first through the SL2 and beyond. When you’re done using it, you can’t wait to go out again for another ride. The other “Honda’s”, get the job done. Think about that?? Really!! The amazing intangible factor of “desire”. How the heck does that enter into a product? Fairy dust? No. It’s a secret sauce that makes you stand out from the crowd. And it’s true with any aspect of life. A pretty view or person. A sports car. A luxury watch. Food, especially. A great bourbon. A kiss, that you’ll never forget. I don’t know about anyone else, but I want a kiss I’ll never forget. Even if it’s only once...🔥📷 For the record, my daily driver is a Honda, a Sony, two in fact. And they’re amazing at going from point A to point B. But the poster on my wall, and the screensaver on my computer, is a Leica. Cheers...🥃
How do you feel about the lack of GPS? This would be my first nitpick, I was very disappointed to learn that Leica dropped it in this camera when reading Om Malik’s preview.
I had asked Louis at Adorama about using the Panasonic Flashpoint R2 Pro on the Leica SL2. He told me it would work. I specifically asked about HSS and TTL. He responded in the affirmative. Even if he is wrong, I expect it will work in manual mode. I sold my Profoto triggers, A-1, and three B1s to switch to Flashpoint strobes and triggers. I may soon regret my impetuous actions.
wish there was a bit more thought put in to expressing the minor matter of image quality. ( ie. compared to M10 or 240. how do M lenses compare on each? what about noise? this camera has some funky noise issues)
Different animals, but I’d need time with an R to be able to tell you “If I could only have one...” I own the SL2 and love it - and it is a vastly more flexible tool.
Hello Hugh. Really insightful post,. Thanks. I'm genuinely considering it. Question: do you use flash as a staple of your photography work? What type of systems are people using with Leicas? Or one that you'd recommend? Thx
Back in the old days, I used multiple Canon Speedlites before switching to Profoto. But no more: we work with available light only for the kind of street and photojournalism we shoot. Candidly, Leica has room to improve when it comes to functionality and compatibility with too many third party flash systems..
@@3BMEP I see your point about their willingness to participate with third-party manufacturers. Contrary to what I'm about to say, I'm not a gear guy. GFX shooter who fell into a nice array of Nissins. They work great for me. Completely reliable and I find myself NOT thinking about them when I work. I'd be more inclined to add the Leica to my shelf if Nissin made a compatible transmitter. They are making it hard to be rational though. I held one in my hand at their Boston store! The "thingness" about it is not really explainable, but it's real. Coming from a guy who has never, not once, clicked the shutter release on a Leica before.
As you know, despite this whole video... As a luxury product, there will never be a compelling argument with regard to value for money or functionality compared with cheaper 'premium' competition. Attempting to do so is wasted time! Comparing it to its sibling S1R or the far superior Sony A7RIV would be missing the point and is like comparing a Mercedes to a Rolls Royce... It's more than specs and a price tag, it's about emotion, effortless design, tactility, history, exclusivity and prestige. No need to justify your desire to own one based on numbers. Just admit you want it because of how it makes you feel, buy it and love it. ... I just might do the same!
thanks for this interesting insight, Agree on your approach. Though... I am about to buy a Leica body. I became Leica fan because I am using Leica Summicrons-R (35, 50, 90) for my BlackMagic Ursa Mini Pro 4.6. Fantastic, characteristic look for the movies I shoot. I am using these lenses on my (older) Sony A7s aswell for photography (not professionally). But I am about to buy a Leica body, although I am thinking about M10, I like to manual approach... but I need to change my R-lenses to M... So I am willing to buy Summicron-M for the M10. But I'd like to use them on my Ursa aswell... question: good idea? what about the adapter I need (M to EF). And is the M series as soft and nice colour rendering as the R series? Is this something you can answer or give any insight? Thanks anyway.
Agh, you are killing me! Own an M3 and finding it feels so right. I want more of this feeling. But, I fit into many of your "If you are..." categories with other fine cameras. Sigh.
Happy for you, as a Leica fanboy, you were able to be a part of pre-production of the SL2. Saw you on DPReview. I got my budget set. I will sell my house, car and most of my belongings so I can buy this camera with the Trinity of zoom lenses and two primes. After that, I will see if could buy a used Ford Connect, old van or if I need to live down by the bridge at the North Shore in Pittsburgh.
I got it to shoot street in NYC. It is reserved for that highest of highest uses. Shooting more with a borrowed M10-P for the slower, more controlled pace we currently face.
I'd expect it to be comparable to Q2 and S1R, slightly worse compared to S1 and SL because of pixel pitch/density. I haven't compared them side by side, though at base ISO (where I like to shoot) differences are likely to be minor. Check out DxOMark.com and photonstophotos.net for metrics. To me, other factors are far more important, like IBIS or UHD 10-bit 4:2:2/24p/ 8-bit 4:2:0 UHD up to 60fps internal recording. In spite of what so many people say, color, dynamic range and resolution are sufficiently compromised by ISO 12,800 that the image will succeed or fail based on the composition, subject matter and emotional impact rather than any of these other factors irrespective of camera.
@@hakurou2170 So far my most used is a 28mm f 2.8 Elmarit. I also have a 90mm f 2.5 Summarit and a Zeiss 50 mm f2 Planar. I like the smaller lenses, though I may splash out for a 'cron one day, either 28mm or 50mm. The only other lens I have in my wish list is a Super-Elmar-M 21mm f/3.4 ASPH. I have no desire to have dozens of lenses - I already have too many for my other camera systems. The idea of the M10 was to go back to small and basic.
I saw your portrait photo on dpr review....damn...i didn't even hear your voice, and I still heard it...you portrait wh***...lol...As always love your work and your presentation... Vader, really? Stars Wars huh....First Star Wars movie came out and I was the only grown up that went to see it a Saturday matinee. Packed house, surrounded by Mom's and nothing but children...Naturally I sunk in my seat. At the end of the movie when the hero's were being given their medals and the rebel soldiers all applauded, every kid in the packed movie house, Me included, stood up and applauded with them...I have never before or since been to a movie where everyone stood up and applauded. Star wars, you gotta love it...I know Mars does, we were extras in the movie...lol. As always, keep up the good work and keep'em flying.
OMG, just to listen to the way Hugh describes this new Leica, well, any Leica, he has a way with words that invites our inhibitions to the world of Leica, how many Leica’s am I going to get....his visual images reveal a side of me that I want to venture to and become creative with the new language of Leica....another superb video...of course!
Martin Dewhurst GREAT question! Comparable at base ISO (both magnificent) but I think the SL2’s sensor outperforms the sensor in the X1D II at high ISO. I’d say the primary optical difference between the two systems is the look due to the difference in focal length for a given field of view.
@@3BMEP Yes, I noticed. So, since the GFX 50 costs about 1500 Euro less than the SL2 and the GFX Glass costs about half for each lens I would say that the GFX is a huge bargain. On the other hand, the Leica SL2 looks to be the perfect camera in each and every way except the price, so if anything were to lure me away from Fuji APS-C as an "upgrade" to full frame- it would be this. Crucially, if you are spending that amount of money one must be satisfied that there is there will be no need to upgrade for 10-15 years at least. But that is exactly what the Leica SL2 seems to be. There is no need for faster Frame Rate, Autofocus or a better EVF because all of that seems to be perfect just as the image quality is.
Hugh, how much would one be "loosing" if matched the SL2 body with Panasonic lenses? Ok, the "one" is me and it would be solely for weight reducing porpouses (and to save a dime here and there)... Do panasonic lenses come close in IQ to Leica's? Thanks!
Luis Carlos Pedrazzoli Aside from notions of character, and hands-on experience, I suggest you take a gander at the MTF charts - they tell an interesting if incomplete story. The Leica glass, in my view, is peerless in the L-mount lens ecosystem. Sigma and Panasonic do make some outstanding optics, but you won’t be getting smaller glass for comparable optics.
Simply put. This is by far the best review I ever saw. Your philosophical approach and the consistency is just breathtaking. And I want and need and deserve this camera. (But can't really afford it...) I might sell my car... The force is strong!!!
You do not necessarily need this camera - but - who gets involved with it will be surprised what quality a camera can have. The pictures speak for themselves and that counts. And it's an acquisition for many - many years. Dear Hater, you do not have to buy them. But who loves photography and "lives" and wants to afford it, this camera is a dream - and I hope for my part that I can fulfill this dream.
My favorite UA-cam scholar (Leica scholar) Mr. Brownstone! Jose here from Puerto Rico. Loved this video and your delivery. I think you'll buy this one? Once they take out all the minor kinks with firmware, this will be another outstanding delivery from Wetzlar.
I shoot for image quality, color, contrast and image sharpness what is my best combination of lens and camera to maximize that pursuit? Why do you think DXO rated the SL at 88.
Gary Meek Older sensor. I don’t mean to punt, but you can get close enough to what you want from a number of systems and formats these days so that the gating factor is not the gear - it’s us. Glass vs. sensor vs. stabilization vs. being in the right place at the right time, with intent, skill and will to execute... Over the years (between us) Claudia and I have gotten images we love from Sony, Panasonic, Nikon, Canon, Fuji, Hasselblad, and Leica.
47 megapixels is nearly twice the 24 of an SL, but it isn't twice the resolution. Twice the resolution of an SL would be 96 megapixels; 47 is about 1.4 times the SL's resolution.
@@woodenrabbitc2134 first batch of pre-order is now finished. Will be delievered i believe on the 21st! They taking more orders now and next batch i believe is mid dec so get in early!
Hugh, I think you have exposed me to my new desired grail camera! Your tone and presentation are always informative, engaging and enchanting. Thanks for another great video.
Evf, liveview shooting, ibis, video features, quieter, etc... And this is full frame... You need a heftier body for those full frame lenses. Better handling, ergonomics and weight distribution. Makes a world of difference. Sony a7 bodies are too small for anyone but children and dwarfs...
@@cl3826 sony actually proves my point with those toy size cameras and big GM glass. Nikon Z bodies are bigger... OK for now until they release more Z lenses, that are going to be bigger than their dslr mount counterpart... You want small light mirrorless system, go apsc or mft
@@alozor13 Proves nothing. They didn't have to make them that big. That was choice. There have been smaller 35mm lenses for a long, long time. Plus, not all are huge. The 24mm 1.4 is not "big" at all.
@@cl3826 these new mirrorless lenses are optimized for all those high megapixels sensors all the FF brands, with no exceptions, are making now... Cell phones used to be tiny, now they're bigger than ever... FF Mirrorless is going bigger... Advantages of dslr+mirrorless tech... Deal with it or go mft... Or go/stay with sony and small primes... You have options. Pros don't mind and actually want the extra size...
Fantastic analysis. I never thought I'd see the day when someone would peak my interest to take a look at Leica cameras. You reminded me of my Contax T3, that just inspired me to shoot every spare moment I had. The SL2 looks like that kind of camera. Its specification is fantastic and just need PDAF and tilting screen for total completeness (for my needs). Fortunately, the Leica camera system is well beyond my means otherwise I'd be tempted to get an SL2 as my first full frame camera.
Instead of an articulating rear screen maybe some kind of attachment for an iPhone could be used for that. I have used the iPhone as a view screen, to fire the camera, when I had the camera on a tripod set lower than my arthritic knees could bend for me to reach the viewfinder. I was doing it for fun, at the Ironman in Kona, and captured a cyclist a cyclist at f1 and 1/16000 of a second. I prefocused a 50mm f/1.4 M lens in the midday sun. Fired remotely from my phone as instantaneous as pressing the shutter on the camera. Maybe I’m more tickled with the results than anyone else will be by looking at picture but that It is the kind of flexibility that the SL offers an M lens owner. The inspiring results have kept me from even selling one of my three M lenses for an auto focus lens. One thing I want to add about the high cost of the M lenses. Sure they cost more than my Nikon zooms and my Zeiss 100mm but the 7,000 dollars I paid for those three lenses is thrown away because they all have fungus which has made them worthless for resale.I had the M lenses for longer and exposed to the same Hawaii weather, from jungle to oceanfront and moist upcountry climate where I live, but none of the M lenses have any fungus at all and look brand new. They are still worth some money and will be worth the price for the next owner. As long as this sensor lasts I could see myself enjoying the SL for a long time. For the lenses I’m still looking for a graduated filter solution for landscapes. For macro I have used a set of three stacked macro filters that I bought for five bucks. I love the results. There is still more to learn every day and my thousands of dud pictures I don’t look at as mistakes anymore but rather experiments and fine tuning good results until I get exciting results. For weddings maybe manual is not great but for a retired guy who tries to get a picture everyday I’m very happy with the SL. I found that the Sony everyone raves about was just irritating to use with the auto white balance different from one shot to the next. It was too small and too flimsy. You get what you pay for but even with all that said I don’t see the Leica SL as priced low enough for the system to survive. I hope I’m wrong about that.
Someone pointed out to me that Leica was a luxury brand, and as an owner of a Leica Q I sort of agreed, yet basically took offense. I think it boils down to this, as Hugh says in the video, “how it makes me feel when I hold it in my hand”. As mentioned, the S1R is a completely competent camera at a substantial cost savings. I agree. If cost is what you value, then it’s the right one for you. As for luxury I’d suggest, there are those who have the means and buy it because they believe the most expensive thing is the best. Yet there are those of us with far less means who appreciate the point of difference and realize the value of what that piece delivers to you personally. I loved my X100 but it pales in comparison to my Leica Q; that’s how Leica makes me feel.
@@3BMEP Is there a crop on the 5K 30p? And can you shoot L log on 4k 60p? I love the fact it has a MOV file and 400mb - 4:22. I bought a Sony a7R3 - I'm a creative director and I shoot so much product and portraits but on the Video side the 8bit colour space has really let me down. Happy spend more for this camera just because of the 10bit.
Wow Hugh! You enthusiasm and bias are palpable. Your burning desire is testimony to the power of want over need. Proof that branding, done well, adds value that trancends the sum of it's parts. Leica is a famous historic brand that clearly speaks to and for you. Your emotional connection to the Leica brand is evident and will likely cost you dear - but then again, you can already, perhaps, justify that expense. Maybe already concluded that you are 'worth it'. You and your 'tribe' are a marketing man's dream. If you can afford it then why not? Mere logic can't trump emotion and you may as well have the satisfaction of owning and using what is undoubtedly a very fine tool. I too love photography, spend thousands on premium kit (initially Nikon, now latterly Sony) and consider myself (financially) fortunate that I don't share your passion for Leica. But each to their own. There are many illogical (yet emotionally justifiable) parallels in other sectors - like owning and driving a Porche or Ferrari. Sunseeker, Philippe Patek, Linn and other brands that thrive on their premium positions. Back in photography, I'm reminded that the more I charged my occasional clients the more they seemed to like my photography. Perception is reality.
"At its core, photography is much more about _being,_ seeing, doing, showing up, than it is about setting menu options." I *love* it. Truer words were never spoken, Hugh. Oh, and I want one of those "No Futzing Zone" T-shirts! Cheers, Stephen
I picked up a lightly used SL 1 for $2500. This camera, though nearly 5 years old, is STILL ahead of its peers. truly incredible machine. I love it.
I got the sl 601 this year and I'm totally in love with it. I never had this strong bond with a piece of equipment. It's the perfect blend of minimalistic user design, build and image quality. it feels like made for a lifetime
“Goodwill, cheer, reading, thinking, perspective.” Well said, Hugh. There are a lot of fundamentals in that sentence.
Simon Tasker Simon! 🖖🏻
Hugh
Once again you have managed to make we watch a 36 minute video on a camera system that I will never own! Well played sir, well played 😀
With regards to your CL, remember “what is yours is mine, and what is mine is mine” only applies to wives...
Make the t-shirt!
And with regards to making use of what you already have and not needing to change, that will definitely be my position once my X-Pro3 arrives.
Keep up the great work!
Same here. I mitigate the time expenditure by playing it at 2X.
Hah!
mediamannaman I couldn’t do that, it would destroy the delivery 😀
Three Blind Men and An Elephant Productions You can of course now say “But dear, I had to replace the CL with something!"
Wives and socialist!
I watch your videos not just for your awesome reviews but for your language and articulation. I learn SO much!
Loved this. What surprised me most is my jaw didn't drop when you described a $6000 camera as bargain, instead my head nodded along in agreement.
I really enjoy your videos, and have alway wanted a Leica. So after hours of research and watching every video I could I have purchased my first Leica, a SL2. I am a designer, and love everything about the design of this camera. You sir, have so eloquently stated that owning a Leica is about the experience, and you are correct. Thank you for taking the time to post these videos
Glad to be of service. 😉
Thank you for bringing "Goodwill, cheer, reading, thinking, perspective.” as well as thought to us, once again...
Hugh you consistently have the most thoughtful reviews and I especially like how you encourage viewers to do what is best for them instead of pushing for everyone to join the rat race. Additionally you don’t call every new camera the best and honesty prevails whatever the strengths and weaknesses may be of any one camera. Keep up the great work and cheers!
🙏🏻Really appreciate your encouragement - thank you!
Today..... I received my "Hold that thought" tee-shirt (I'm in the UK).
It is BEAUTIFUL !
Seriously, I love the feel of the material, it is super quality and it fits me PERFECTLY ! (medium).
Thank you sooooo much !
Now...... all I want is a Leica SL2......hold that thought !
Jez I AM so glad you enjoy it - thanks for being part of the community!
I'm at the stage now were I want one camera and a few lenses to do me the next 20 years. The SL2 looks like it might be the one.
That’s how I’m thinking as well...
And same here, dozens of Nikon bodies last 30 years, sold them all with like 20 lenses.
I thought I could do without but I don't. I think I will go for the SL2-s and two primes.
@@peetje28021970 same here. Just got the sl2 now contemplating what glass to get.
Thank you for your video, Hugh!
Questions on the SL2 -
(1) How is the eye AF?
(2) Can the AF keep up with people moving, like a wedding march?
(3) How well does camera perform in low light?
(4) Can shooting settings be preset and assigned to buttons (C1-C3)?
(5) Compared to Nikon/Canon cameras, is there equal amount of post editing in Photoshop or Capture One?
We liked the Nikon Z7’s image quality, but did not like its eye AF or its low light capability.
We also liked the Panasonic S1. That camera can see in the dark. However, the AF was suspect. And, its image was not as good as the Nikon Z7.
As an SL user for some time, I enjoyed the four button layout as well as long press shortcut a lot, it feels minimalistic and in my opinion better than the current 3 button design that favors videography, and I rarely have to take my right thumb off the joystick, now with SL2 it might be less possible to do so.
Also, I really want to know the issues in SL has or has not been addressed in SL2, (with 24-90mm SL lens) such as the noticeable noise above ISO 1600, unable to turned off Long Exposure Noise Reduction which lead to additional wait time equal to the amount of exposure time. Less appealing jpeg direct output that will require tuning dng in lightroom in order to be visually appealing. And more, hopefully you can help investigate. Thank you very much.
Brilliant video Hugh!! Regardless if I can afford it or if I really needed, it s a pleasure to watch the whole video. It s really personal, it s about why you (we) love what you (we) love in life. Your change of screen from b&w and color, then back to b&w, gave an illusion that a past you and a present you speak at the same time! Well done Hugh! I know I m not going to buy it after I finished watching it, but i know for sure I will remember your video for long time to come because there are so many wisdom in it no one can buy with money. I love your saying photographer is about ‘ Being, Seeing, Doing, and Showing up, not about setting the manual ‘ lol how much simpler can it be?! Thx Man! Will come back watching what ever you post !
ningsun2 Thank you for such a lovely contribution!
What can be said about Leica better than you already said it??? For an amateur shooter like myself, a camera such as the SL2 is the Holy Grail of photography/ videography equipment, truly the Rolls Royce of the photog world. Leica has been the itch I never can scratch since I took Photography back in 83 in high school. I had a chance to shoot a few rolls of Kodak Black and White through a Leica just to see how I liked it and it was phenomenal. I can't even remember the designation for it now, been so long ago. All l knew then it was the Holy Grail and still is, and that I never became rich and famous and still am on a Pentax K1000 Budget. Photogs like yourself whom get to use all this wonderful equipment, I am quite frankly envious of you. I applaud you though for being able to work with all this equipment and the photos/ videos you get to shoot with it. I sure would love to be in your shoes. I still yet have an infinity for Black and White photography, and would love to be able to go shoot a ton of it, and I know today's cameras are more than capable, as long as that is programmed into the firmware.
Photography has come along way since I bought my first camera all those years ago. Good shooting.
Oh wow, my first Dlsr, the K1000! It got stolen but I loved it!
I did a photowalk with the SL2 and I think it might be the best digital M Leica yet. LOL
The music, the running water, you just took me back to Vermont in the Autumn of 2005!, Driving the back roads I heard running water, I stopped the car and went down to the stream, surrounded by nature and just the water making any noise!, I felt like my soul left my body. Thank you for bringing back those memories.
Maxwell Wellmax happy to be of service. 😉🖖🏻
Thanks Hugh Brownstone! I love the pathos of your reviews as they reveal the heart of an Artist. ;-)
Someday, after I make my first million, I’ll buy a Leica.
Joking aside, the colors from the SL2 in video capture was just amazing.
"Colors" Agree! I didn't know if that was just me? The prelim review over at DPReview also shows off amazing color. I'd like to know if that's SOC or a LUT in post?
Oh thank good there are more like me who noticed better colours 😂
@@harsh8426 the colors in the video are amazing. To be honest at that point I like them more than on the S1H
In fact, you only need the price of a Nikon D5 or Canon 1D-X. Now, the Leica glass will cost (but Nikon's copy of the Leica Noctolux f 0.95 is around 8 grand...). BUT, Leica did create the L Alliance which, as a result, lets you use Sigma or Lumix glass for a much lower cost, and still give you excellent images.
Dan Smedra colors on most were SOOC - post was limited in any case to no more than cropping and/or exposure adjustments.
I left Leica SOHO not long ago with the leica SL2 in hand. I had to come back and say thank you! You and a few others helped me make the decision.
Leica does a great job of balancing a Bauhaus-like design approach with just enough ergonomics and thus gives their cameras such an elegant appearance.
Well, we knew this was coming as soon as I bought my SL in June. Right? Of course we did. As you know, my SL has had quite a workout in the 5 short months I've owned it. It's covered a lot of ground...literally. Thanks for the early and careful coverage of the upgrades. Here're a few thoughts. The improved weather sealing. Yes! And you know exactly why I say that. I like, really like, the 4 unmarked buttons on the back. Hate to see those go. The back is so clean. But, ok. The improved grip; are we sure we needed that? I haven't had an issue with the grip, but I'm game if it is indeed a value add. I only hope that it doesn't somehow muck up the aesthetics. Speaking of aesthetics, until I heard it here and immediately pulled mine from my bag to see for myself, I never - not once - realized that the covering didn't extend to the front. How the heck did I not notice? Thanks for saying you hadn't noticed, too. I took some comfort from that.
And now this, yes, I'm already casting out feelers for a trade-in. No surprise, huh? Wait. One more thing before I go. No, you do not have a CL. You had one. Past tense. Claudia has one. As always, cheers! Keep up the great work, man.
Hugh I have loved and probably watched every video you have posted. In a world with a video is only good if it goes viral. I appreciate you, your art and the great content you publish. On my bucket list is to do a photo walk with you some day very soon. I just recently bought my first Leica. A Leica SL2S. This camera has is changing my life each and every time I pick it up. And it is not far from my hand at any given moment. Please never stop doing what you do. You do it with class and great creative vision. Thank Hugh.
Charles, thank you so much for your encouragement. Enjoy that SL2S!
Watched your video for first 7:13 min, had to go to ballet class:) I have to give a ‘man, what a video!’ May be your best one, even I will come back to finish it:) I just love your inside emotion about something much deeper than a camera. Is it not what need in this world today? Bravo!! Later:) The only bad thing is, you made me thinking what I can sale from my house to buy this camera, even I just watch 7:13 min...:)) I m not joking !
ningsun2 😈🙏🏻😊
Well done guys. I want one. Can't afford it yet, but maybe, one day. Sticking with my QP in the mean time.
The beauty and elegance are profound
In the words of the Everly Brothers, dream, dream, dream when ever I want you!!!!
Perfect
I just got my hands on a used SL2 and so far really impressed. One thing I noticed is that the joystick feels a little loose/delicate, like it has more play than I'd expect. Did you notice the same thing, or is it perhaps just the one I got? Ie, am I just going to end up buying a brand new one, since there's no going back now that I've put my hands on one of these beauties?
I think it’s just the one you have.
@@3BMEP It was indeed defective- replaced and new one is great!
Philosophy and art and a very powerful introduction
Will you do a follow up for the production model?
Will do a conparo to S1R. In the works.
My question about this whole L mount thing is, do Sigma and Leica provide DFD profiles for their lenses? Does Panasonic engineer them for the other two manufacturers' lenses, or is it restricted to Panasonic branded glass like on MFT?
Most of the time it won't make a huge difference, but seeing the growing activity for the L mount makes me wonder how that'll all develop.
Also, the TL is definitely up there in terms of just beautiful body designs - would love to own one, but let's be realistic..
And please, next time you visit Leica in Germany - see if you can make a stop here in Sweden. We've got.. stuff!
Jenny Darukat Would love to, Jenny! Would you be willing to be our guide?
@@3BMEP As much as I am able, of course!
Who's the dude at 7:07? Looks strangely familiar....
We love Chris & Jordan!
One of the best channel, I like the approach and the philosophy. Always a pleasure. Thanks Hugh
Hugh, thank for this. I want a SL2 😊😎👍 next to my q2 😎.
Will it tether to Capture ONe?!?
Nice fantabulous , it's a dream camera
Professor Brownstone, I love attending your lectures. Thank you, once more.
I’d like to comment because I’m a professional marketer and artist, as well as, a budding pro photographer. I have a pulse on culture. I also, love luxury items that I can’t afford, for this argument, let me mention Porsche and Rolex.
No one on earth needs a Porsche for transportation or a Rolex to tell time. Yet they thrive in their markets. You know why, as I do, desirability, simple as that. As long as Leica keeps referencing themselves against “for the masses” competition it will be compared so.
Does Rolex compare themselves to Seiko or Apple Watch? It’s a fair argument that the completion is in a very measurable way, better. Maybe much better. As an Apple Watch is arguably better than a Rolex.
Leica needs to ditch the concepts of the ordinary and develop a discernible difference that makes it a Bugatti, instead of a utilitarian mode of transportation. If we use the same metaphor, it could a Range Rover. Or a Bentley. Or a Jeep. Doesn’t matter. But all those brands have specific niches and ride that understanding to amazing success.
Leica has heritage that only Nikon can maybe touch. But the Japanese brands are like Honda’s. Leica is a Porsche. Badass to the bone. And like a Porsche or a Rolex, you can actually beat on it. It’s not just a pretty item for display. We all want them because we have to have it.
Take the R and D funds and give it something “special”. Something the others will only wish they could have. They all take pics, but a Leica makes you a Rock Star!
The voices we hear are yours and your company of influencers. Anyone can say it’s “just a camera”. But you know the difference and so do they...
Leica, I wish you great success and indefinite longevity. (And I want one, badly. And will have one someday. Why? Just gotta have it.. ) Cheers...😎📷
Robert Perez Thank you for such a lovely and generous commentary!
once it gets a Porsche focusing system, I am in!
Johannes R. H. Your point is correct and it could be anything else that makes a Leica special. But that’s just it, it still is special. If we continue the car analogies, many cars and watches and other luxury items are forgiven when they are flawed in any certain area, because what is “special” is still special even with the flaws. If the Leica was the only camera that existed we’d celebrate it with it’s own annual holiday. My point is, it’s good. Very good. Maybe great when taking all the factors into account. Build, handing, Herritage, performance and most of all pictures. The “drive experience” is unmatched with every Leica ever made, from the first through the SL2 and beyond. When you’re done using it, you can’t wait to go out again for another ride. The other “Honda’s”, get the job done. Think about that?? Really!! The amazing intangible factor of “desire”. How the heck does that enter into a product? Fairy dust? No. It’s a secret sauce that makes you stand out from the crowd. And it’s true with any aspect of life. A pretty view or person. A sports car. A luxury watch. Food, especially. A great bourbon. A kiss, that you’ll never forget. I don’t know about anyone else, but I want a kiss I’ll never forget. Even if it’s only once...🔥📷 For the record, my daily driver is a Honda, a Sony, two in fact. And they’re amazing at going from point A to point B. But the poster on my wall, and the screensaver on my computer, is a Leica. Cheers...🥃
Robert Perez Iol I wouldn't go as far as to say Japanese camera companies are like Honda's. But I get what your trying to say.
How do you feel about the lack of GPS? This would be my first nitpick, I was very disappointed to learn that Leica dropped it in this camera when reading Om Malik’s preview.
Good to see a few photos and videos from the camera between the 'pictures of people talking' (to use a Hitchock phrase).
Yep and the EVF hump looks a bit like Vader’s helmet.
Hugh,
Is it possible to use the Profoto trigger for the Panasonic S1/S1R work on the Leica SL2?
John Peterka apparently not - at least, not for TTL.
I had asked Louis at Adorama about using the Panasonic Flashpoint R2 Pro on the Leica SL2. He told me it would work. I specifically asked about HSS and TTL. He responded in the affirmative. Even if he is wrong, I expect it will work in manual mode. I sold my Profoto triggers, A-1, and three B1s to switch to Flashpoint strobes and triggers. I may soon regret my impetuous actions.
John Peterka please keep me posted!
I definitely will.
U said that the SL2 is only exceeded by the TL and the CL. Why is that?
absolutely love my new SL2
wish there was a bit more thought put in to expressing the minor matter of image quality. ( ie. compared to M10 or 240. how do M lenses compare on each? what about noise? this camera has some funky noise issues)
Which camera do you prefer, thevLeica M 10 R or the SL2?
Different animals, but I’d need time with an R to be able to tell you “If I could only have one...” I own the SL2 and love it - and it is a vastly more flexible tool.
@@3BMEP THANKS, I thought that might be your answer.
Hello Hugh. Really insightful post,. Thanks. I'm genuinely considering it. Question: do you use flash as a staple of your photography work? What type of systems are people using with Leicas? Or one that you'd recommend? Thx
Back in the old days, I used multiple Canon Speedlites before switching to Profoto. But no more: we work with available light only for the kind of street and photojournalism we shoot. Candidly, Leica has room to improve when it comes to functionality and compatibility with too many third party flash systems..
@@3BMEP I see your point about their willingness to participate with third-party manufacturers. Contrary to what I'm about to say, I'm not a gear guy. GFX shooter who fell into a nice array of Nissins. They work great for me. Completely reliable and I find myself NOT thinking about them when I work. I'd be more inclined to add the Leica to my shelf if Nissin made a compatible transmitter.
They are making it hard to be rational though. I held one in my hand at their Boston store! The "thingness" about it is not really explainable, but it's real. Coming from a guy who has never, not once, clicked the shutter release on a Leica before.
As you know, despite this whole video... As a luxury product, there will never be a compelling argument with regard to value for money or functionality compared with cheaper 'premium' competition. Attempting to do so is wasted time!
Comparing it to its sibling S1R or the far superior Sony A7RIV would be missing the point and is like comparing a Mercedes to a Rolls Royce... It's more than specs and a price tag, it's about emotion, effortless design, tactility, history, exclusivity and prestige.
No need to justify your desire to own one based on numbers. Just admit you want it because of how it makes you feel, buy it and love it.
... I just might do the same!
No Sony is gonna be "far superior" to any Leica.
thanks for this interesting insight, Agree on your approach. Though... I am about to buy a Leica body. I became Leica fan because I am using Leica Summicrons-R (35, 50, 90) for my BlackMagic Ursa Mini Pro 4.6. Fantastic, characteristic look for the movies I shoot. I am using these lenses on my (older) Sony A7s aswell for photography (not professionally). But I am about to buy a Leica body, although I am thinking about M10, I like to manual approach... but I need to change my R-lenses to M... So I am willing to buy Summicron-M for the M10. But I'd like to use them on my Ursa aswell... question: good idea? what about the adapter I need (M to EF). And is the M series as soft and nice colour rendering as the R series? Is this something you can answer or give any insight? Thanks anyway.
Do you know if the SL2 supports other Aspect ratios?
It does
Agh, you are killing me! Own an M3 and finding it feels so right. I want more of this feeling. But, I fit into many of your "If you are..." categories with other fine cameras. Sigh.
😂😂😂 at the end
Yet another great review!
Thorsten Overgaard was right: the Q2 was my first Leica now I want this one as well 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Same here. The Q2 is phenomenal and it really makes me want to get a Leica with interchangeable lenses.
Happy for you, as a Leica fanboy, you were able to be a part of pre-production of the SL2. Saw you on DPReview. I got my budget set. I will sell my house, car and most of my belongings so I can buy this camera with the Trinity of zoom lenses and two primes. After that, I will see if could buy a used Ford Connect, old van or if I need to live down by the bridge at the North Shore in Pittsburgh.
Now that you have had the SL2 for a while how much are you using it, I know we all are not shooting as much as we did?
I got it to shoot street in NYC. It is reserved for that highest of highest uses. Shooting more with a borrowed M10-P for the slower, more controlled pace we currently face.
How is high ISO low light performance compared to the Sl or Panny S1/S1R?
I'd expect it to be comparable to Q2 and S1R, slightly worse compared to S1 and SL because of pixel pitch/density. I haven't compared them side by side, though at base ISO (where I like to shoot) differences are likely to be minor. Check out DxOMark.com and photonstophotos.net for metrics. To me, other factors are far more important, like IBIS or UHD 10-bit 4:2:2/24p/ 8-bit 4:2:0 UHD up to 60fps internal recording.
In spite of what so many people say, color, dynamic range and resolution are sufficiently compromised by ISO 12,800 that the image will succeed or fail based on the composition, subject matter and emotional impact rather than any of these other factors irrespective of camera.
I'm glad I bought the M10-P a few weeks back, else I would have a real headache choosing now! Maybe next year...
Brian Davies I too bought M10-P few months ago.. on august to be exact. Still i want sl2 now. What lens you pair it with M10-P?
@@hakurou2170 So far my most used is a 28mm f 2.8 Elmarit. I also have a 90mm f 2.5 Summarit and a Zeiss 50 mm f2 Planar. I like the smaller lenses, though I may splash out for a 'cron one day, either 28mm or 50mm. The only other lens I have in my wish list is a Super-Elmar-M 21mm f/3.4 ASPH. I have no desire to have dozens of lenses - I already have too many for my other camera systems. The idea of the M10 was to go back to small and basic.
Another great video but on a side note, who is the artist playing during the slide show?
Vader to me means great build quality
You are genius.
I hope to meet you someday.
Great narration as usual.
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What is mean't by recording internally versus externally?
Recording to the SD cards inside the camera vs recording to an external device via HDMI.
Very great presentation I enjoyed very much
I saw your portrait photo on dpr review....damn...i didn't even hear your voice, and I still heard it...you portrait wh***...lol...As always love your work and your presentation...
Vader, really? Stars Wars huh....First Star Wars movie came out and I was the only grown up that went to see it a Saturday matinee. Packed house, surrounded by Mom's and nothing but children...Naturally I sunk in my seat. At the end of the movie when the hero's were being given their medals and the rebel soldiers all applauded, every kid in the packed movie house, Me included, stood up and applauded with them...I have never before or since been to a movie where everyone stood up and applauded.
Star wars, you gotta love it...I know Mars does, we were extras in the movie...lol.
As always, keep up the good work and keep'em flying.
A real pleasure to follow your video. It fits so well with the history of Leica in terms of style and presentation. Old school at a very high level.
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Any thoughts on this vs. the Canon R5?
I want one, but I am not going to take a mortgage out on my house in order to buy one. Such is life.
Good call. :)
Lmao!!!!
OMG, just to listen to the way Hugh describes this new Leica, well, any Leica, he has a way with words that invites our inhibitions to the world of Leica, how many Leica’s am I going to get....his visual images reveal a side of me that I want to venture to and become creative with the new language of Leica....another superb video...of course!
Mine is already on order from the Leica SoHo store. I have the SL now, but will be trading it in.
Excellent video Hugh :-) How did you feel the image quality compares to the X1D ii?
Martin Dewhurst GREAT question! Comparable at base ISO (both magnificent) but I think the SL2’s sensor outperforms the sensor in the X1D II at high ISO. I’d say the primary optical difference between the two systems is the look due to the difference in focal length for a given field of view.
Cheaper than the M cameras, maybe someday. But the medium format Fujis are in the same price range.
As I mentioned around 15:50. 😊
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Yes, I noticed. So, since the GFX 50 costs about 1500 Euro less than the SL2 and the GFX Glass costs about half for each lens I would say that the GFX is a huge bargain. On the other hand, the Leica SL2 looks to be the perfect camera in each and every way except the price, so if anything were to lure me away from Fuji APS-C as an "upgrade" to full frame- it would be this. Crucially, if you are spending that amount of money one must be satisfied that there is there will be no need to upgrade for 10-15 years at least. But that is exactly what the Leica SL2 seems to be. There is no need for faster Frame Rate, Autofocus or a better EVF because all of that seems to be perfect just as the image quality is.
Mac Mac agreed on all points! 👍🏻
Do I want an SL if I have an M10?
Hugh, how much would one be "loosing" if matched the SL2 body with Panasonic lenses? Ok, the "one" is me and it would be solely for weight reducing porpouses (and to save a dime here and there)... Do panasonic lenses come close in IQ to Leica's? Thanks!
Luis Carlos Pedrazzoli Aside from notions of character, and hands-on experience, I suggest you take a gander at the MTF charts - they tell an interesting if incomplete story. The Leica glass, in my view, is peerless in the L-mount lens ecosystem. Sigma and Panasonic do make some outstanding optics, but you won’t be getting smaller glass for comparable optics.
Why not a flip screen
Simply put. This is by far the best review I ever saw. Your philosophical approach and the consistency is just breathtaking. And I want and need and deserve this camera. (But can't really afford it...) I might sell my car... The force is strong!!!
Great video Hugh! What app do you use to record on your iPhone?
Thanks
Now is it worth the extra compare to S1R with 14-24 and 24-105, hold that thought
You do not necessarily need this camera - but - who gets involved with it will be surprised what quality a camera can have. The pictures speak for themselves and that counts. And it's an acquisition for many - many years. Dear Hater, you do not have to buy them. But who loves photography and "lives" and wants to afford it, this camera is a dream - and I hope for my part that I can fulfill this dream.
I'm just here to hear the man with the Jeff goldblum voice do a camera review oh and of course I liked what I'm already subscribed too😁✌️
Love the Young Frankenstein reference Hugh :-)
Andrew Ward 😉
What hump?
@@deanaustin1975 :-)
The SL2 and Q2 need that 40mp sensor from M10R. Less MP but better sensor.
P.s. Hugh you are now my favorite photographer/philosopher. Thoroughly displacing Ming Thein.
Is it me or are the talking head clips not fully monochrome?
Do you have a background in acting? just a curious question!
I don’t think a real actor would describe my elementary school career nor my summer camp experience as constituting a background in acting. 😊🖖🏻
My favorite UA-cam scholar (Leica scholar) Mr. Brownstone! Jose here from Puerto Rico. Loved this video and your delivery. I think you'll buy this one? Once they take out all the minor kinks with firmware, this will be another outstanding delivery from Wetzlar.
Would have loved to work on project Vader. Very interesting video, thanks for sharing
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I had chance to shoot with it when it first came out at San Francisco Leica Store. I loved it, great gear but for now, I will stay with my Leica Q2.
Continue to enjoy!
Impressive review as always!!
Will a Profoto TTL adapter available on release date? 😉 Oops, have asking before 36:00 😘
I shoot for image quality, color, contrast and image sharpness what is my best combination of lens and camera to maximize that pursuit? Why do you think DXO rated the SL at 88.
Gary Meek Older sensor. I don’t mean to punt, but you can get close enough to what you want from a number of systems and formats these days so that the gating factor is not the gear - it’s us. Glass vs. sensor vs. stabilization vs. being in the right place at the right time, with intent, skill and will to execute... Over the years (between us) Claudia and I have gotten images we love from Sony, Panasonic, Nikon, Canon, Fuji, Hasselblad, and Leica.
47 megapixels is nearly twice the 24 of an SL, but it isn't twice the resolution. Twice the resolution of an SL would be 96 megapixels; 47 is about 1.4 times the SL's resolution.
You are so right. Thank you!
@@3BMEP I knew what you meant, but it wasn't what you said!
Heading into Sydney Leica store now 🤣 thanks for the great review yet again!
Do they have stock??
@@woodenrabbitc2134 first batch of pre-order is now finished. Will be delievered i believe on the 21st! They taking more orders now and next batch i believe is mid dec so get in early!
@@yakattac78 thanks for that. Second batch for Christmas!
@@woodenrabbitc2134 yeah mate, do it! Christmas pressie to self haha
Hugh, I think you have exposed me to my new desired grail camera! Your tone and presentation are always informative, engaging and enchanting. Thanks for another great video.
Eric Linneman my pleasure. 😊🖖🏻
What’s the point of going mirrorless if it’s big and heavy?
Evf, liveview shooting, ibis, video features, quieter, etc... And this is full frame... You need a heftier body for those full frame lenses. Better handling, ergonomics and weight distribution. Makes a world of difference. Sony a7 bodies are too small for anyone but children and dwarfs...
@@alozor13 Nah. You don't need that extra size for any of that. Nikon and Sony proves that.
@@cl3826 sony actually proves my point with those toy size cameras and big GM glass. Nikon Z bodies are bigger... OK for now until they release more Z lenses, that are going to be bigger than their dslr mount counterpart... You want small light mirrorless system, go apsc or mft
@@alozor13 Proves nothing. They didn't have to make them that big. That was choice. There have been smaller 35mm lenses for a long, long time. Plus, not all are huge. The 24mm 1.4 is not "big" at all.
@@cl3826 these new mirrorless lenses are optimized for all those high megapixels sensors all the FF brands, with no exceptions, are making now... Cell phones used to be tiny, now they're bigger than ever... FF Mirrorless is going bigger... Advantages of dslr+mirrorless tech... Deal with it or go mft... Or go/stay with sony and small primes... You have options. Pros don't mind and actually want the extra size...
Fantastic analysis. I never thought I'd see the day when someone would peak my interest to take a look at Leica cameras. You reminded me of my Contax T3, that just inspired me to shoot every spare moment I had. The SL2 looks like that kind of camera. Its specification is fantastic and just need PDAF and tilting screen for total completeness (for my needs). Fortunately, the Leica camera system is well beyond my means otherwise I'd be tempted to get an SL2 as my first full frame camera.
Would love to get the most out of my SL2 as far as cinematic PL lenses are concerned
I would love your opinion on this dear thanks Michelelaurita
Instead of an articulating rear screen maybe some kind of attachment for an iPhone could be used for that. I have used the iPhone as a view screen, to fire the camera, when I had the camera on a tripod set lower than my arthritic knees could bend for me to reach the viewfinder. I was doing it for fun, at the Ironman in Kona, and captured a cyclist a cyclist at f1 and 1/16000 of a second. I prefocused a 50mm f/1.4 M lens in the midday sun. Fired remotely from my phone as instantaneous as pressing the shutter on the camera. Maybe I’m more tickled with the results than anyone else will be by looking at picture but that It is the kind of flexibility that the SL offers an M lens owner. The inspiring results have kept me from even selling one of my three M lenses for an auto focus lens. One thing I want to add about the high cost of the M lenses. Sure they cost more than my Nikon zooms and my Zeiss 100mm but the 7,000 dollars I paid for those three lenses is thrown away because they all have fungus which has made them worthless for resale.I had the M lenses for longer and exposed to the same Hawaii weather, from jungle to oceanfront and moist upcountry climate where I live, but none of the M lenses have any fungus at all and look brand new. They are still worth some money and will be worth the price for the next owner. As long as this sensor lasts I could see myself enjoying the SL for a long time. For the lenses I’m still looking for a graduated filter solution for landscapes. For macro I have used a set of three stacked macro filters that I bought for five bucks. I love the results. There is still more to learn every day and my thousands of dud pictures I don’t look at as mistakes anymore but rather experiments and fine tuning good results until I get exciting results. For weddings maybe manual is not great but for a retired guy who tries to get a picture everyday I’m very happy with the SL. I found that the Sony everyone raves about was just irritating to use with the auto white balance different from one shot to the next. It was too small and too flimsy. You get what you pay for but even with all that said I don’t see the Leica SL as priced low enough for the system to survive. I hope I’m wrong about that.
Another camera to add to my when i win the lottery list
Someone pointed out to me that Leica was a luxury brand, and as an owner of a Leica Q I sort of agreed, yet basically took offense.
I think it boils down to this, as Hugh says in the video, “how it makes me feel when I hold it in my hand”.
As mentioned, the S1R is a completely competent camera at a substantial cost savings. I agree. If cost is what you value, then it’s the right one for you.
As for luxury I’d suggest, there are those who have the means and buy it because they believe the most expensive thing is the best.
Yet there are those of us with far less means who appreciate the point of difference and realize the value of what that piece delivers to you personally.
I loved my X100 but it pales in comparison to my Leica Q; that’s how Leica makes me feel.
After watching your video I'm switching from x1d ii to leica sl2. Great video!👏👏👏
Jiayin CHAN 🙏🏻 Both capable of stunning imagery! Differences really come out in use cases and personal preference. Enjoy!
I just want to know does the camera shoot 5k? lol.
Hermeilio Aquino actually, it does.
@@3BMEP Is there a crop on the 5K 30p? And can you shoot L log on 4k 60p? I love the fact it has a MOV file and 400mb - 4:22. I bought a Sony a7R3 - I'm a creative director and I shoot so much product and portraits but on the Video side the 8bit colour space has really let me down. Happy spend more for this camera just because of the 10bit.
Wow Hugh! You enthusiasm and bias are palpable. Your burning desire is testimony to the power of want over need. Proof that branding, done well, adds value that trancends the sum of it's parts. Leica is a famous historic brand that clearly speaks to and for you. Your emotional connection to the Leica brand is evident and will likely cost you dear - but then again, you can already, perhaps, justify that expense. Maybe already concluded that you are 'worth it'. You and your 'tribe' are a marketing man's dream. If you can afford it then why not? Mere logic can't trump emotion and you may as well have the satisfaction of owning and using what is undoubtedly a very fine tool.
I too love photography, spend thousands on premium kit (initially Nikon, now latterly Sony) and consider myself (financially) fortunate that I don't share your passion for Leica. But each to their own.
There are many illogical (yet emotionally justifiable) parallels in other sectors - like owning and driving a Porche or Ferrari. Sunseeker, Philippe Patek, Linn and other brands that thrive on their premium positions. Back in photography, I'm reminded that the more I charged my occasional clients the more they seemed to like my photography. Perception is reality.
Richard McCleery Thank you for sharing a well-articulated point of view!
Ah....awesome video! Thanks Hugh