I have the 2014 US ST, it’s 8+ years old with 98,000 miles on it, it has a Cobb stage two tune up, beefy motor mount, 3” exhaust, short shift kit, sticky Mitchlen pilot sport tires, and many Visual mods. I’ve had 14 cars & 9 Motorcycles in my 74 years and this is the most fun car I’ve ever had, the way it handles on a mountain road is just Magic. I’m on my 6th set of tires, that’s how hard I drive it, my friends can’t believe the clutch is still stock. That hard knocking sound every time he accelerated, was the Engine hitting the firewall, all ST’s need a after market motor mount. At 80 miles a hour the gets a solid 31.5 mpg, it’s a keeper. The Fiesta Flash. 🤙🏼🍺🍺🍺
My FiST got totaled a few months ago, had that car for a year and a half and it has been the most fun car I ever owned. Since it’s gone I’ve decided to order a 2023 GR86, maybe some time down the road I’ll get another FiST
Why call this a 2022 in the title when this generation has gone out of production already and the replacement knocking on Australia's door! Keen to see this repeated when the actual 22 finally arrives!
@@Jaredscott89 you obviously do, otherwise you wouldnt have commented the title is wrong and thats it, there is nothing to really discuss about, the creator of this video either didnt know better or wanted to clickbait.
Old VHT on a slick surface like that is more slippery than clean, coarse tarmac. The LC on this model only limits revs on clutch depression, as soon as the clutch is off the floor you are on your own again in terms of throttle value.
The wheel hop is much better with an upgraded lower engine mount. Although I had terrible traction problems with the Michelins in cold weather. The winter tires they grip like hell luckily
Issue with the I20 will be the Hyundai badge on the front and back of it. Had one for a weekend and it’s good to drive but not great. The badge will put most people off and second hand values with be awful.
Next time check the tire air pressure. To much air in street tires,on track bite,would cause bad/violent wheel hop..I would of started around 32psi ,then deceased it after trying it out
0-100kph times are all good, but how about a proper test of in gear acceleration from say, 60-100kph and between two different vehicle makes..? These would best simulate more realistic conditions when again, needing to overtake etc..Otherwise, great review as always..
well done ! You have just succeeded in putting me off ordering a new one completely! I couldn't tolerate that wheel hop tramping like that when pulling away fast, even my old Fiat Strada Abarth 130TC behaved better than that 37 years ago !!
Put my stage 2 2020 fiesta st in there, I've added in a engine mount to aid the axle tramp wheel hop issues and a big brakw kit for the brake issues, I'd like to know how it stacks up against a stock one or on track by a pro driver 😁
Sure, the I20 N might be faster but I don’t really know which would be more playful on track against the clock. The i20N makes more sense but the Fiesta ST would be great
have mine now for about 5 months, went stage 1. 250 ish HP and 360 ish NM. launching is terrible, feels bad and grip is hard to come by, replacing the stock rear engine mount has dramatically decreased weelhop though, strong recommendation for all ST's. no more wheelhop, just pure burnouts when dumping the clutch or punching it hard when tires are cold or the road is damp. it however is a weapon when you're not going from stationary. have the PP and the quaiffe in front is amazing, u can chuck it in any corner and just go. the size, weight and now increased power thanks to stage 1 will give rather expensive cars a very very good run for their money, have already beaten a macan S 2021 model from 40 to 200km/h. (yes, that is manual versus a PDK) on a side note: the pops and bangs is just amazing. absolutely in love with it, have it in performance blue. and i have to agree that it is not that flashy or sports car like than some other brands but the aftermarket is huge, so u can make what u want. and i do like the "hidden" style it has now, just get next to a fast car and let him think "it's just a fiesta". god i love it.
@@jaredscott4829 was a macan S, sorry thought it had a 4s distinction (because of the 4-wheel drive) like the panamera line. but i did beat it. see, a fiesta doesn't weigh much, a macan does. so HP/ton i beat him easily. 1820 kg with 380 hp versus 1180 kg with 250 hp. so when going from i rol the fiesta will win. from the line a fiesta will lose... hard...
@@alientje97 wrong, you made the mistake because it's a fictiocious scenario that only occured in your head. Like now claiming a power to weight advantage, when a 250hp FiST merely matches the Macan S paper figure. If you actually knew anything about the 2.9L engine in them, you would know they are heavily underrated from the factory. The MY21 updates trap 108mph, a tuned FiST at 250hp barely scrapes past 100mph, this shows real power in the Macan is much higher than a tuned FiST... So even if you did have the chance to do this race in the real world, you would get demolished. Pretty simple drag racing science and no, the trap speed is not affected by whatever variable you might think in your head.
@@jaredscott4829 its clear to me u dont understand how fast a small car with that HP is, your loss.... And u dont have to believe me, i dont care what some stranger on the internet thinks and tries to call me a liar. Haters gonna hate i guess..
@@alientje97 it's as fast as a bigger car with a corresponding increase in power to weight. Pretty simple concept. Basic science also dictates that a car trapping 101mph is not going to out accelerate a car trapping 108mph. It isn't that I don't believe you, it's that you flat out lied about something that is obvious to anyone who has driven those cars. In future, if you want to claim a scalp and try to brag about it on the internet, you might want to make a less wildly outrageous claim. A 250hp FiST goes about as good as an old first gen Mazda 3 MPS. Don't try to make it something it isn't.
We have just changed from a Cooper s to an i20n. Tried the St but just didn't like it. The i20 feels special and I'm still taking looking for excuses just to head out for a drive. Absolutely love it.
@@coldt1484 Enjoy, good choice! i20N will be much less common, ST is a great car but the i20N & JCW have more personality imo. All great cars respectively though 👌🏼
@@philcourty hi Phil, we have just changed from a Cooper s and it just does not have the driving appeal that our i20 has. I feel like I I'm back in the 80s driving a really hot hatch. Its one of the few cars that I have driven that make me want to head out for a drive and for what it delivers, is such good value. I absolutely love it..
@@biffon69 playful? You mean slower! A simple Ford Fiesta with a few bits stuck on it is far from exciting. By playful you mean unstable and just not very good - I'd much rather be drifting in a GR that fighting understeer in a Ford Fiesta 😆
The Ford Fiesta ST is a pocket rocket, but would you choose it over a Hyundai i20 N? Comment below!
No. It's too girly. i20N have a more aggressive styling.
I did choose it and do not regret it. The pedigree is there and I have trust in the st badge.
Very close, but the Hyundai warranty wins me over
I20n over this but I'm sure both are great cars. There are pros and cons of both cars. Try both, make a choice and then get on with life.
Yes fiesta has more built Quilty and probably a faster track time over the i20 n
I have the 2014 US ST, it’s 8+ years old with 98,000 miles on it, it has a Cobb stage two tune up, beefy motor mount, 3” exhaust, short shift kit, sticky Mitchlen pilot sport tires, and many Visual mods. I’ve had 14 cars & 9 Motorcycles in my 74 years and this is the most fun car I’ve ever had, the way it handles on a mountain road is just Magic. I’m on my 6th set of tires, that’s how hard I drive it, my friends can’t believe the clutch is still stock. That hard knocking sound every time he accelerated, was the Engine hitting the firewall, all ST’s need a after market motor mount. At 80 miles a hour the gets a solid 31.5 mpg, it’s a keeper. The Fiesta Flash. 🤙🏼🍺🍺🍺
My FiST got totaled a few months ago, had that car for a year and a half and it has been the most fun car I ever owned. Since it’s gone I’ve decided to order a 2023 GR86, maybe some time down the road I’ll get another FiST
Why call this a 2022 in the title when this generation has gone out of production already and the replacement knocking on Australia's door! Keen to see this repeated when the actual 22 finally arrives!
Yeah, thought the same thing additionally the incoming 2022 model has 30Nm more pulling power.
There has been no generation change, it's just a mild facelift for 2022.
@@jaredscott4829 but still, its a facelift with 30Nm more
the one he is showing is the 2021 version, so why call it 2022 if it isnt the 2022 model
@@leonohlinger3237 Honestly, who gives a toss.
@@Jaredscott89 you obviously do, otherwise you wouldnt have commented
the title is wrong and thats it, there is nothing to really discuss about, the creator of this video either didnt know better or wanted to clickbait.
This isn’t the 2022 fiesta ST… the 2022 one is released March 1st. I know because I’ve bought one 😂
same, i dont understand why they would name the video 2022 if its obviously the 2021 model
Read the Manual! Use Flat Floor shifting. The fiesta use a function to hold the turbo pressure.
It doesn’t mention anything about flat shift in the manual
@@Maxx8666 no it don't but it can
Old VHT on a slick surface like that is more slippery than clean, coarse tarmac.
The LC on this model only limits revs on clutch depression, as soon as the clutch is off the floor you are on your own again in terms of throttle value.
The wheel hop is much better with an upgraded lower engine mount. Although I had terrible traction problems with the Michelins in cold weather. The winter tires they grip like hell luckily
How about the polo gti
Issue with the I20 will be the Hyundai badge on the front and back of it. Had one for a weekend and it’s good to drive but not great. The badge will put most people off and second hand values with be awful.
fucking bs! lol
@@mattyoz0 guessing you own a Hyundai, lol 😂
@@jonathantaylor3750 wrong. M140i and a gr yaris rallye.
@@mattyoz0 but looking at videos of little Fiestas eh? how weird
@@mainman2999 it's called being a car enthusiast.
That seemed much harder to launch compared to the i20 N. Lets get the i20 N and this FiST on a track for a battle!
I20n wins as it's basically a track car bigger brakes makes a difference 320mm brakes definitely help it out. Over Ford's 276mm
That's a 2021 fiesta not a 2022... the 2022 festa st is mk 8.5 different front. The one you have is a mk 8
The clickbait is real! 😂
Are we getting the face lifted ST in 2022?
This isn’t the 2022 Fiesta
Next time check the tire air pressure. To much air in street tires,on track bite,would cause bad/violent wheel hop..I would of started around 32psi ,then deceased it after trying it out
"need a grippier surface"
Are you not on a drag strip?!
Flat foot shifting helps
0-100kph times are all good, but how about a proper test of in gear acceleration from say, 60-100kph and between two different vehicle makes..? These would best simulate more realistic conditions when again, needing to overtake etc..Otherwise, great review as always..
I’m guessing you didn’t watch the review before you commented. Ha ha.
well done ! You have just succeeded in putting me off ordering a new one completely! I couldn't tolerate that wheel hop tramping like that when pulling away fast, even my old Fiat Strada Abarth 130TC behaved better than that 37 years ago !!
Launch it in normal or sport with launch control if you have no traction 🤦🏽♂️
This is a 21 model. I'm waiting for the 22 to hurry up and get here.
Put my stage 2 2020 fiesta st in there, I've added in a engine mount to aid the axle tramp wheel hop issues and a big brakw kit for the brake issues, I'd like to know how it stacks up against a stock one or on track by a pro driver 😁
Yep, the orginal torque mount is built for comfort. Swapping out this inexpensive component corrects the axle tramp.
What's the size of your brakes? The I20n has 320mm stock and I'm torn between the cars
@@Chappers.Gaming stock vs stock, i20N will win on brakes. However my big brake kit brings it up to a 6pot 355mm brakes.
@@TheCombey nice how Much dose that cost? Granted you can do that on the i20n to but that will definitely help the little ST 276mm brakes..
I really hate the term "KW"
launch is still off. from the sound, the engine knocking/rocking is so evident
Still without an st in the us….
Sure, the I20 N might be faster but I don’t really know which would be more playful on track against the clock. The i20N makes more sense but the Fiesta ST would be great
i20n is faster on track... hands down on that...
FiST is more for the road, its pure fun
have mine now for about 5 months, went stage 1. 250 ish HP and 360 ish NM.
launching is terrible, feels bad and grip is hard to come by, replacing the stock rear engine mount has dramatically decreased weelhop though, strong recommendation for all ST's.
no more wheelhop, just pure burnouts when dumping the clutch or punching it hard when tires are cold or the road is damp.
it however is a weapon when you're not going from stationary. have the PP and the quaiffe in front is amazing, u can chuck it in any corner and just go.
the size, weight and now increased power thanks to stage 1 will give rather expensive cars a very very good run for their money, have already beaten a macan S 2021 model from 40 to 200km/h. (yes, that is manual versus a PDK)
on a side note: the pops and bangs is just amazing.
absolutely in love with it, have it in performance blue. and i have to agree that it is not that flashy or sports car like than some other brands but the aftermarket is huge, so u can make what u want.
and i do like the "hidden" style it has now, just get next to a fast car and let him think "it's just a fiesta". god i love it.
No such thing as a 4S. And you did not beat a Macan S over those speeds. A vastly more powerful vehicle.
@@jaredscott4829 was a macan S, sorry thought it had a 4s distinction (because of the 4-wheel drive) like the panamera line. but i did beat it. see, a fiesta doesn't weigh much, a macan does. so HP/ton i beat him easily. 1820 kg with 380 hp versus 1180 kg with 250 hp.
so when going from i rol the fiesta will win. from the line a fiesta will lose... hard...
@@alientje97 wrong, you made the mistake because it's a fictiocious scenario that only occured in your head.
Like now claiming a power to weight advantage, when a 250hp FiST merely matches the Macan S paper figure. If you actually knew anything about the 2.9L engine in them, you would know they are heavily underrated from the factory.
The MY21 updates trap 108mph, a tuned FiST at 250hp barely scrapes past 100mph, this shows real power in the Macan is much higher than a tuned FiST...
So even if you did have the chance to do this race in the real world, you would get demolished. Pretty simple drag racing science and no, the trap speed is not affected by whatever variable you might think in your head.
@@jaredscott4829 its clear to me u dont understand how fast a small car with that HP is, your loss....
And u dont have to believe me, i dont care what some stranger on the internet thinks and tries to call me a liar. Haters gonna hate i guess..
@@alientje97 it's as fast as a bigger car with a corresponding increase in power to weight.
Pretty simple concept.
Basic science also dictates that a car trapping 101mph is not going to out accelerate a car trapping 108mph.
It isn't that I don't believe you, it's that you flat out lied about something that is obvious to anyone who has driven those cars.
In future, if you want to claim a scalp and try to brag about it on the internet, you might want to make a less wildly outrageous claim.
A 250hp FiST goes about as good as an old first gen Mazda 3 MPS. Don't try to make it something it isn't.
People complaining of Axle tramp , learn how to modulate the throttle,, its not an on off switch.
Wheel hop off the line is definitely a problem in Festy ST but rolling traction out of a corner is really good
Yes, yes, yes! It's a great little machine out of corners.
Beter engine mounts help lot
The new one has 320nm
MINI JCW or Hyundai i20N 👌🏼
Mini JCW is a 50% increase in price.
We have just changed from a Cooper s to an i20n. Tried the St but just didn't like it. The i20 feels special and I'm still taking looking for excuses just to head out for a drive. Absolutely love it.
@@coldt1484 Enjoy, good choice! i20N will be much less common, ST is a great car but the i20N & JCW have more personality imo. All great cars respectively though 👌🏼
@@philcourty hi Phil, we have just changed from a Cooper s and it just does not have the driving appeal that our i20 has. I feel like I I'm back in the 80s driving a really hot hatch. Its one of the few cars that I have driven that make me want to head out for a drive and for what it delivers, is such good value. I absolutely love it..
Time to find a better driver🤣🤣🤣
Ordered my ST3 face lift coming soon March 2022 has more engine torque.
But can it out the power down?
No time to find, why bother trying to find it , rubbish thing.
Get a real test driver not him!
Very misleading title
😆 it's a 7 second car at best - won't be winning any traffic light races in a Fiesta
Not exactly what it's meant for though. It's a wicked corner carver.
@@hairyviking6047 you should of got a GR Yaris is you wanted a proper corner carver 😁. 7+ secs is very poor (and that's on a dry prepped surface)
From all reports, the fiesta is way more playful than the yaris, which is why I’d be buying that instead… and pocketing the $15k
@@biffon69 playful? You mean slower! A simple Ford Fiesta with a few bits stuck on it is far from exciting. By playful you mean unstable and just not very good - I'd much rather be drifting in a GR that fighting understeer in a Ford Fiesta 😆
@@relentlesspursuit6894 yeah, you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about, mate.