That's me in a nutshell 😅 these new gimmicks for a older player have been hard for me.....but this old dog is adjusting to the new system now and then I get a "real" Tekken set
The learning in Tekken feels so gratifying. Ducking when you're supposed to, punish when you're supposed to, it feels great. When you lose because you did not know, you need to learn. Dont quit because you did not know. Learn and rank up as you learn
I remember how I tended to get crushed by some absolute dimwit law flowcharts. Now when I see a Law in a red rank or so, it's a free win. And that is the feeling we're all going for
@@kamilnowak4329 Like the one notable match I had VS a Paul in Tekken 7 where the guy kept rematching me on constant losses then I downloaded his playstyle and reacted to the low launcher, guy didn't rematch me after he realized that. Best feeling ever.
5:34 This is the reason why I respect this dude so much. People *love* to point out past arguments, compare them to the recent ones, and any differences would be count as hypocrisy, which is stupid. It's not hypocrisy when you just simply learn more and be so open-minded that you have zero qualms to fully change your mind. I don't understand why some people don't get this.
It's also not even hypocrisy based on the definition alone. Hypocrisy would be holding people to a standard you currently don't practice. Not simply changing your mindset 😂
Good message. As someone who actually avoided TMM content in the past because he seemed to project the opposite of this mindset it's good to hear him say it and that he's working on it.
WIth current state of tekken rank doesn't mean too much. Focus on small progresses like doing correct punish, throw break, ducking high string, side stepping string, creating your own oki/set up and landing it in a match.
Big facts, i took a break from rank after tenryu but now fast forward and i can consistently win games against purple and even win a few times against blue
@@artofgarduno it means what you when the player gets back up, like if you do a move that counter hits, if someone just presses up to get back up they will get launched all over again, this is all because they didnt do the proper get up, in that situation they can make roll back to get up or even roll to side or do a wake up kick, anything
There are a lot of very good points here. Especially for those that are new to the tekken scene. I think it's okay to pursue the rank you want to achieve, but one thing that helped me to make it less frustrating was to break it down into sub goals, instead of trying to earn one rank after another. I would only focus on winning a few matches per hour or per day. Take a break and go back again. This gradually builds up your tekken points, and before you know it, you're up for a promo. Now if you find yourself losing constantly, like tmm and other pro streamers have said - "Lab the character, look at the replays" and follow the same mentality of taking a break, and playing again. It was such a grind getting my Lee to tekken king but when it finally happened it felt good! TK rank may not be much for others but the lessons obtained from learning match ups along the way was worth it.
Love those kinds of vids as always. You are one of the few content creators who are exceptionally well at explaining those kinds of things. Keep it up champ ❤
I remember Aris saying years ago that you arent a true tekken player (or something like that) until you parry junkyard on reaction. that was my goal as I started playing a bit more seriously and yeah, the first time doing it felt soo damn good
Grabbing is kind of like sabaki, you need to know the right time to use it or you get punished pretty bad. He really isn’t an autopilot character like people make him out to be.
Being grabbed just feels so bad. Especially that some animations are unnecessarily long. But I still like playing against him. Compared to some other characters, he feels really good to fight
Because it's all streamers care about and the community has been quick to judge your ability as a player based off rank even though there are plenty of characters like Eddy and Victor who've carried toxic idiots to Tekken God by requiring bare minimum effort.
@@BeforezzzThat's what I always disliked about the community. People were super quick to judge every player by their rank, even though a player's rank never tells the whole story. I'm not gonna say "rank doesn't matter at all", but it's also not a be-all and end-all thing like many people think. It should never been seen as more than a rough estimation or small indication. I personally never was a huge ranked player in T7, and loved player matches/lobbies a lot more. Sometimes people would remove me from the lobbies when I joined, because my displayed rank was pretty low, but they didn't give me the chance to prove myself. I rememeber there was one time where I tried to join a lobby, and always kept getting removed from it. Then, one time where they didn't remove me instantly, I managed to write in the lobby chat to give me a chance and I'd prove it to them that I can put up a good fight. I was like yellow rank at that time, and the 2 guys in the lobby were TGPs. So they let me fight them, and I actually managed to win 3 matches in a row against them, until they removed me again. That was honestly one of the best feelings I've ever had in that game. They were quick to judge me and thought I was some beginner in yellow ranks, but I showed them that I was able to play much better than my rank says, and proved them wrong. I was playing Kazumi/Gigas, and the 2 guys were Anna and I believe King. I was so proud, that I still have the replays saved in-game I believe. Or at the very least I've had them saved for a very long time. They obviously can't be played anymore since it's been years, but they always made me smile because it kept reminding me of those battles and how I proved the elitists wrong. So moral of the story: don't judge a player by their rank. There are so many factors in play, that a rank is almost never a precise indication of someone's skill.
@@Beforezzzhating is a terrible trait lol …. Just because someone likes a character doesn’t mean they are toxic . It takes skill not to be exploited while in vulnerable stances
I am looking to try and build on my Reina skills as best I can. Some days I feel I can learn well, other days I feel i have bad days with it (and feel I regress). My main frustration comes from that feeling of getting worse. But I still keep learning what I can do with her. I have had a wild journey with building my Tekken skills with her. It's been rough but I have found it to be a very satisfying journey for me.
This was a GREAT video 😊 especially the part about King players 😊 We learn when to throw and whenot to.... its not that easy! And Ive memorized all throws and chains and all routes so If you break this chain I can actually change the break! Im only Fujin but I do like the aspect of applying a situation I learned while labbing and it worked whether a SSR on Dragonuv or a jab challenge on Reina plus frames! This feels GREAT! Best video Ive watched all week great positivity
Adding this long comment late , so unlikely to be seen but: I think part of the difficulty is also that the *process* of active learning in general has been poisoned for many in their school years, work cultures etc. By ‘active learning’ I guess I mean the process of actually sitting down with the intention to study and to come away with new information, rather than passively acquiring it in the subconscious. If you had difficulties in certain areas, or didn’t know something, or struggled with memorisation, very often the reaction from teachers/ peers/ colleagues was punitive - you’re told you’re lazy or stupid, you cause people to be exasperated or angry or (much worse) condescending, and this I think stops quite a lot of people from engaging with active learning at all- despite it being something that Tekken asks of its players (most games out there do not). I’m on a (very lengthy) ADHD waiting list, and while a possible diagnoses is not an excuse not to learn, it does mean I need a LOT of repetition and consistency to really drill the information into my brain before it can leak out again - a process which takes time and leads to huge amounts of frustration when I feel like I ‘should know this by now’. I think that phrase- ‘by now’- is perhaps the biggest obstacle, and it’s partly embodied in the ranked system and in the ways that players discuss their prowess in the game. Losing at the game is punishment enough for not knowing a thing - but losing takes on a greater significance when you’ve had this prior toxic relationship to the learning process. Add a big dose of adrenaline and stress into the mix (it’s Tekken after all) and a losing streak begins to feel catastrophic- because it’s not actually about the game any more. The biggest hurdle players need to get over is switching their relationship to this kind of learning- to see it all as exciting, to look at incremental ‘bits’ of knowledge as valuable, rather than necessary to ‘pass the exam’- the exam being, in this case, a rank promotion. Writing things down helps mental recall too- fill a notebook with your discoveries, rather than a boring tally of your wins and losses
I recently broke every throw a King player hit me with and wr2'd them a couple of times when their throw attempt were read. By round 3 at half HP he just lay there and let me steel pedal him to death for a 3-0 win before they refused a rematch. As someone who has only been training throw breaks consistently for a week or two (and admittedly not every break was a reaction break) it was *euphoric.*
Each time you break a king's throw, his confusion is tangible. Even though you don't see that guy in front of his monitor, you know he's puzzled. And he damn commits mistakes, bigger after every single broken throw lol
@@kamilnowak4329 oh 100%, you can practically hear the whatdafuq soundbite as they stop pressing buttons for a solid second or two after you break their throw ahaha
Daily routine 1) Practice mode: pick 1 hated character punishment training (also practice throw breaks ) 2) then fight cpu on hard for 15 minutes. Practice until you don't drop the most important combos 3) If you are still dropping important combo your brain is not fully awake. repeat step 2 . Otherwise proceed next step 4) play non-ranked until you have a 3 win streak. 5) now you ready for ranked
Bro I played like 100 hours of regular online matches before I played ranked. Then I played ranked to the second orange rank and went back to play another 100 hours of regular online play, played ranked to garyu red rank. AND THEN I played another 100 hours of regular online before I went back for teryu rank. I'm currently playing another couple dozen hours to see how far I get when I go for ranks again. I ranked with in a few win streaks, I stop when I lose more than 2 or 3 sets in a row. I have over 2000 regular online matches and only like 200 ranked matches. My point is I don't grind ranked,, Instead I do what I consider sparring with random players of different ranks close to my own on regular online. So when I play on ranked I'm able to really gauge my skill progression with no anxiety over how I'm going to perform, I already know how I'm going to do, I'm only interested in seeing if people on my current rank are able to keep up with me. Its a I'm not in the ring with you, you're in the ring with me kind of mentality. Its a great system if you really like the game genuinely. Most people play to show off a rank for ego only. Just remember guys, in real martial arts you have build up to the belts you earn. No one can learn a whole system in one day. No matter how much you wanna show off a black belt and kick peoples asses, you have to earn it and know you deserve it by proving it to yourself before to others. The black belt only means you have risen to the level of a teacher. Long story short.....JUst play the game because you like it and not because you wanna show off to others, in the end you know the truth of yourself.
It all comes down to Mindset, i started playing Ranked in DBFZ and raged a lot because all i wanted was to rank up. Nowadays i just play because i enjoy the game, im hard stuck at Mighty Ruler but i dont care.
Also I am stuck at ruler with my boy kazuya but I'm happy with it, only got warrior on TTT2, genbu on T7 and now mighty ruler on T8, that's a great level, keep learning and improving, fujin is behind the corner👀
This is the type of content I love to see from MM. I didn’t watch the other video that looked interesting but the title completely turned me off. He is so good at stuff like this, I just wish some of the off putting humor would be toned down a bit because his intelligence in this game gets overlooked because of the jokes
I heard that if you just pick up Drag & Feng then you actually don’t have to learn anything about any other character because they will be too occupied with defending themselves 😂
I used this mentality back in Tekken 7 when I first started playing online ranked. I went through green and orange ranks in a week and never went back down. It works and it makes the game more enjoyable. Find pleasure in the fact that you ducked and launched that cheesy string or launched that paul's demoman or deathfist
I gotta watch because I can't even PLAY ranked in both Tekken and Brawlhalla because of this for YEARS, I am saving it for later I hope you can finally cure me TMMSWE
Not really rank anxiety but man being new to tekken is the most brutal fighting game out there i feel like most of the time i can't even move. I'll be taking a long break from rank
Yeah it's really brutal. I remember when I started playing it was just terrible. But that's why getting good at Tekken is so respectable and feel so good
@kamilnowak4329 a lot of times i try to whiff punish but then the opponent is continuing their string far away then I eat a counter hit into half life. Or if i choose to block now i don't know if the string is plus or minus its all a nightmare. Every other fighting game i played is no where near as punishing like this
I only plug on loading screen eddy, i was fine with it untill i realised i could not even use the 'play your replay' funcion because i did not buy eddy so i can't really understand his moves at all which makes it a bit unfair in my opinion. The replay option should work for your own character so i can learn how to punish moves 😩
Fuck eddy, no one who plays him is even learning him. Mash bunch of buttons and he'll handle the rest. Ill plug on him everytime, i refuse to ever have him on my screen. I put a black piece of tape on his character select box so i dont even have to see that bum there either.
1000% Once I got to Garyu with Lili. I stopped doing rank and focused on labbing, quick match, friendly sets and arcade lounge. Came from a long time of playing SF so it helps to have previous FG knowledge. Tekken is s whole different beast. Im having a great time learning this game and once i see myself pulling off more things and making better reads, counter play etc...ill go back to ranked.
I really wanna approach this mindset but once I get titled when I fight azucena or drags I just keep tilting and it feels like I keep digging my grave. How do I stop getting tilted?
Just start praising your enemies (when they make a good play at least) and mentally write a note on what you could've done "Damn that was a good move, i could've probably ducked that and punish"
i just wanna play ranked up til the point where people actually know how to play the game, which doesnt happen until like Purple or Blue? the road there is highkey boring
Personally I honestly don't know why people take ranked so seriously tbh... I think tank doesn't really constitute to skill per say. As there are characters that can get away with a lot currently in T8. So ranking up can be fairly easy for them. I do ranked for fun to be honest and have been demoted like over 20 plus times between a rank climb or just not knowing match ups in general. However I pushed through and now am Tekken King. I plan to achieve Tekken emperor, once I improve my neutral. I main Shaheen and it was a hurdle. Anyways my main point is that people who over glorify rank as skill is pretty immature. I take Ls all the time againest people who don't even play ranked. It's the learning experience that people should get out of it. Not "oh no I'm about to demote better cry about it." Personally my mindset is...just play the game and have a fun time.
Great words overall Also, I think, people need to understand that it's okay to get frustrated at times too, its a hard journey in this game, you will get angry, but stay focused at what you are trying to achieve
The more I watch videos like this the more I feel I have a unorthodox approach to playing Tekken I personally never lab characters I only ever focus on improving muscle memory of pokes and combo routes in practice then I adjust and watch the person I'm playing because most people don't just the whole list of moves so I just memorize their mannerisms in match so naturally I spend most the match blocking I mean I'm not new to Tekken i played t7 but casually playing maybe 6 or so hours like 4 or 5 different days I got to mighty ruler rank so because I look at each match like almost a puzzle I'm solving I never get mad really only thing that upsets me is the games are best of 3
Well as for me, I can never force myself to lab anything. But I have a habit of intentionally not applying any offense just to see what people do and try to learn defense this way. Especially against less experienced players
Kings rediculous armor moves are why he is bs not his throws. King players are probably the only players who spam power crush as much as they do in blue ranks, the vast majority lack the basics even lacking simple things like a real combo game or simple poking or movement. I have also seen multiple Kings in purple ranks with special style on the entire match easily winning games. The truth is some characters are in fact bs, but you won't be able to beat them until you learn the bs. However, Namco are a slowly turning into a complete shit company and need to get it together before this isn't the truth anymore. There are more and more instances where counter play isn't about learning anything but simply about guessing, safe high power crushes, op heat engagers, unstepable running moves, neutral skip moves, low high and mid crushing moves, etc. The bs is stacking up and what you said in this video might be true now but I am afraid to see what namco has planned in the future to invalidate what you explained in this video.
Good advice, when ur opponent is gonna do a mix-up on u, don't try to mash or counterhit him or just guess if u r not sure it's going to work. LOOK AT UR OPPONENT'S CHARACTER and this way it is seasier to see if high-mid or low is coming. When I play, I usually don’t even look at my character or my opponent, but at the screen as a whole and that's a big mistake👆
One of the best things I learned about Tekken 8 is that yeah... It's pretty much bullshit no matter how much you lab a character now you got to figure out how your opponent plays that character because it could be completely different. And no matter what you do there is absolutely no way to stop DJ's bullshit
i noticed that when i play ranked w my main (zafina) im way more nervous, make more mistakes & more quick to one-and-done ppl than when i play w my sub characters (hwoarang, lee, devil jin)
Happened ti me twice I got rank demoted. Once from might ruler back to tenryu, then flame to mighty again. However, instead of freaking out that I demoted, I locked in and reevaluate my replays and try to figure out what buttons or decision making points I was doing incorrectly. After just a moment to rethink and learn wat went wrong, the gameplay became smoother, gameplay is smooth, rank is given. Even though yes I teehee haha funni Lars main, getting to blue off whiff punishing and ducking certain things from azucena made me pop off. The effort to learn a bit more rewards you alot more in tekken than other fighting games imo. And not tilting cuz oh I didnt know x scenario or option such as frame trap, 50/50 from chars I dint typicaly face against etc. Just keep at it m8s.
I second that, I have been playing at the arcades, on group matches I believe they are called? against everybody, good, bad, high ranks, mid ranks, etc. So basically i jump in to tekken arcades and run my ass out to the middle of the group matches arcades and sit my ass down and play, if somebody beats me badly the better, I'll run that rematch button all day, and after 3 or 4 days I jump on to rank again and I can see the improvement, and after that I do it again, I'll play 2 or 3 days on the arcades and go back to rank for like a hour or two.
I'm stuck in Fujin purgatory right now. 🤦♂️ I'll get a streak going and then get murdered by a kishin/bushin Alisa or something, and it'll ruin everything
It funny how I cameback to this vid cause of losing to Hwuarang and King mainly due to knowledge check, and I tell you what even tho I got my rank back it didn't felt good.
This is a perdictable wave fighting games get where people hate the game for any reason after two months. The cirtisisms are valid at times don't get me wrong, but look at the life span of any fighting game and you will see a simular trend
Tag 2 TMM: *says things that would get you banned today when losing ranked* Anyways play more player match and less ranked and you will learn more. God willing we get unlimited rematches soon, I learned the most out of any tekken game in T7 because of the limitless rematches
@@funkrates4778 Simple, the way he moves. Labbing Eddy on top of several others is one thing, but adjusting to him and the player's own style in real time is another.
Yeah, we've heard that before, TMM, in your whole "teach me" mind set thing, but that didn't last long lol I'm sure we'll start seeing you rage against the characters that, according to you, "no one plays" veeeery soon 😂
Haha watch the latest stream. To be fair though you rarely meet any Shaheens in gold rank. He stopped his GoD run after getting 2 jacks, fought the same Shaheen twice, and Drag
I will never resort to labbing but I also don’t complain when I lose in ranked. I’ll just stop playing altogether if my highest rank is gonna rank down
I main Azucena and I am still crap. I try and do my best and watch all these tips and tricks videos on here and no matter what I do I just fail and fail. I watch my replays and take control and learn how to avoid or punish some attacks but go into ranked and forget it all. I'm so useless. Just wish I could be good at something.
How to come over rank anxiety? Easy, stop caring about the rank. If you deserve a high rank you will eventually get it, and if you're sure you deserve a better rank - have fun proving it while beating people you're sure are worse than you.
My kaz was hard stuck in blue.......so now I'm playing Feng 😂😂😂 ive labbed a lot since the drop but since I had a strong Feng in 7 life is easy in rank rn. Got 4 promos in less than a hour. Dude is perfect and super op, add that with legacy fundamentals = easy points ......Yes I sold out 😅
It really doesn't matter. I play on Xbox Series S, right now I have a one second delay at the start every match. My characters are completely freeze and the imputs doesn't work. Sometimes I break throws from Tekkengod ranks, but somehow a Mighty Ruler with bad internet can grab me like nothing. Some player are just teleporting and then we have the meta zombies. This game is bad for mental health
My Mindset is they're not the BS, I'm the BS, and then proceeded to go straight to Mighty Ruler with Victor with a 88% Win Rate, feels like the character carried me but that character is the definition of BS and knowing punishment.
Yea lately I've been like fuck them rank points, How does that move work? Oh I can duck this? Oh they are plus on that move! Oh I can launch that move?!i keep learning and learning the characters general offense watching myself get the shit kicked out of me and next time I fight that character it doesn't feel so oppressive.
all i want is Tekken needs to make a system where you have to make a ingame Stability test and if you drop to many frames you cannot play online. Its insane how many times a game has 5FPS and the enemys connection thing is perma on red. Cause its simply unfun and annoying. Or show not only they Connection but also their FPS or something xD I think the 'no content' feature is amazing if someone lags but that only counts in connection unfortunately not if your opponent runs the game on literal 20frames
What's up guys, MainManSWE here, hope you're doing awesome as always
He wont do it? we’ll do it ourselves
Took me a mintue to figure out what you were doing. loooooooooooool
Shut up
Touch grass
"I only want to lose to a mind game where someone outplayed me at core Tekken" Truer words have never been spoken.
acoomer and geese mains disagree
Then dont play tekken 8 lol
That's me in a nutshell 😅 these new gimmicks for a older player have been hard for me.....but this old dog is adjusting to the new system now and then I get a "real" Tekken set
We play tekken 8 now btw@coutiya2007
says the guy who wont rematch bears
You know what TMM... I _will_ press *X* to believe in myself.
The learning in Tekken feels so gratifying. Ducking when you're supposed to, punish when you're supposed to, it feels great. When you lose because you did not know, you need to learn. Dont quit because you did not know. Learn and rank up as you learn
But I don't want to learn. I already went to college for 8 years so leave me alone game.
@@Bundor8D Loool, we're all in Tekken College now 😂😂
I remember how I tended to get crushed by some absolute dimwit law flowcharts.
Now when I see a Law in a red rank or so, it's a free win.
And that is the feeling we're all going for
@@kamilnowak4329 Like the one notable match I had VS a Paul in Tekken 7 where the guy kept rematching me on constant losses then I downloaded his playstyle and reacted to the low launcher, guy didn't rematch me after he realized that.
Best feeling ever.
@@kamilnowak4329 couldn't have said it better myself!
I love that what you’re saying can be applied to other situations in life as well. Absolute great mindset you have
5:34 This is the reason why I respect this dude so much. People *love* to point out past arguments, compare them to the recent ones, and any differences would be count as hypocrisy, which is stupid. It's not hypocrisy when you just simply learn more and be so open-minded that you have zero qualms to fully change your mind. I don't understand why some people don't get this.
yeah it would be dumb to just stay in the same mindset so ppl dont call you hypocrite.
It's also not even hypocrisy based on the definition alone. Hypocrisy would be holding people to a standard you currently don't practice.
Not simply changing your mindset 😂
@@TheAnimationkid101true
I hope that Mainman will find his mental boldness in next bear matches, even tho their ones for month.
Good message. As someone who actually avoided TMM content in the past because he seemed to project the opposite of this mindset it's good to hear him say it and that he's working on it.
WIth current state of tekken rank doesn't mean too much. Focus on small progresses like doing correct punish, throw break, ducking high string, side stepping string, creating your own oki/set up and landing it in a match.
Big facts, i took a break from rank after tenryu but now fast forward and i can consistently win games against purple and even win a few times against blue
whats oki?
@@artofgarduno it means what you when the player gets back up, like if you do a move that counter hits, if someone just presses up to get back up they will get launched all over again, this is all because they didnt do the proper get up, in that situation they can make roll back to get up or even roll to side or do a wake up kick, anything
@@artofgarduno okizeme =forcing a wake up/stand up situation
was taking a break from playing after a losing streak. watched this vid. finally made it to red ranks with reina
Good luck man
This is what a Competitor mindset sounds like.... way to go MainMan 👍🏻
Good advice, but I feel all of this goes out of TheMainMan's brain when he fights Alisa 😂.
😂😂😂fr tho
Truth
Definitely 😂
Do as I say not as I do😂
There are a lot of very good points here. Especially for those that are new to the tekken scene. I think it's okay to pursue the rank you want to achieve, but one thing that helped me to make it less frustrating was to break it down into sub goals, instead of trying to earn one rank after another. I would only focus on winning a few matches per hour or per day. Take a break and go back again. This gradually builds up your tekken points, and before you know it, you're up for a promo. Now if you find yourself losing constantly, like tmm and other pro streamers have said - "Lab the character, look at the replays" and follow the same mentality of taking a break, and playing again. It was such a grind getting my Lee to tekken king but when it finally happened it felt good! TK rank may not be much for others but the lessons obtained from learning match ups along the way was worth it.
Love those kinds of vids as always. You are one of the few content creators who are exceptionally well at explaining those kinds of things. Keep it up champ ❤
0:09 to 0:13 is gold... that is our goal indeed!
The first time I parried Law's Junkyard gave me so much more joy than a promotion.
Like 2 weeks ago, I insta-low parried the junkyard despite the fact that they hadn't used it at all up until that point. 😊😊
Same here lol, i started low parrying instead of blocking when i know it will happen. Never felt that good in this game
I remember Aris saying years ago that you arent a true tekken player (or something like that) until you parry junkyard on reaction.
that was my goal as I started playing a bit more seriously and yeah, the first time doing it felt soo damn good
@@genzo454whats ur guys usernames? So i never play against you 💀 jk lol i play law
@@sebastianmoscoso9404 Cursed Smoke. (Don't worry though, I still only parry Junkyard like 50% of the time usually)
Being open minded is a fundamental tool to be better and I’m not just talking about Tekken
“I don’t want to lose because I did not know…”
Big. Facts.
Videos like that it’s refreshing, I should watch something like that everyday before I go play ranked !
You are so right about King, coming from a king main that gets a lot of hate and always gets key charged if i lose, lol..
ki
Grabbing is kind of like sabaki, you need to know the right time to use it or you get punished pretty bad. He really isn’t an autopilot character like people make him out to be.
Being grabbed just feels so bad. Especially that some animations are unnecessarily long.
But I still like playing against him. Compared to some other characters, he feels really good to fight
King hate is specifically for noobs. By the time you get decent, you should realize Kings are Chadwicks.
Don’t play to win, play to learn
They’d never do this, but having the ability to hide ranks and wins / losses would help a ton
I was a bluerank kazuya forever and ppl so obsessed with rank now its mad.
Because it's all streamers care about and the community has been quick to judge your ability as a player based off rank even though there are plenty of characters like Eddy and Victor who've carried toxic idiots to Tekken God by requiring bare minimum effort.
@@BeforezzzThat's what I always disliked about the community. People were super quick to judge every player by their rank, even though a player's rank never tells the whole story. I'm not gonna say "rank doesn't matter at all", but it's also not a be-all and end-all thing like many people think. It should never been seen as more than a rough estimation or small indication.
I personally never was a huge ranked player in T7, and loved player matches/lobbies a lot more. Sometimes people would remove me from the lobbies when I joined, because my displayed rank was pretty low, but they didn't give me the chance to prove myself. I rememeber there was one time where I tried to join a lobby, and always kept getting removed from it. Then, one time where they didn't remove me instantly, I managed to write in the lobby chat to give me a chance and I'd prove it to them that I can put up a good fight. I was like yellow rank at that time, and the 2 guys in the lobby were TGPs. So they let me fight them, and I actually managed to win 3 matches in a row against them, until they removed me again. That was honestly one of the best feelings I've ever had in that game. They were quick to judge me and thought I was some beginner in yellow ranks, but I showed them that I was able to play much better than my rank says, and proved them wrong. I was playing Kazumi/Gigas, and the 2 guys were Anna and I believe King. I was so proud, that I still have the replays saved in-game I believe. Or at the very least I've had them saved for a very long time. They obviously can't be played anymore since it's been years, but they always made me smile because it kept reminding me of those battles and how I proved the elitists wrong.
So moral of the story: don't judge a player by their rank. There are so many factors in play, that a rank is almost never a precise indication of someone's skill.
@@Beforezzzhating is a terrible trait lol …. Just because someone likes a character doesn’t mean they are toxic . It takes skill not to be exploited while in vulnerable stances
@@YungBl3ss94 I didn't say that though. But it is undeniable that certain characters have a lure about them that attracts said toxic idiots.
tmm talks is back (best series of all time)
I am looking to try and build on my Reina skills as best I can. Some days I feel I can learn well, other days I feel i have bad days with it (and feel I regress). My main frustration comes from that feeling of getting worse. But I still keep learning what I can do with her. I have had a wild journey with building my Tekken skills with her. It's been rough but I have found it to be a very satisfying journey for me.
I feels like thats what school teaches kids.
Noone cares about your abilities, everyone cares about your ranks
This was a GREAT video 😊 especially the part about King players 😊 We learn when to throw and whenot to.... its not that easy! And Ive memorized all throws and chains and all routes so If you break this chain I can actually change the break! Im only Fujin but I do like the aspect of applying a situation I learned while labbing and it worked whether a SSR on Dragonuv or a jab challenge on Reina plus frames! This feels GREAT! Best video Ive watched all week great positivity
It took me a while to let go of my ego. Now I honestly do not care of my rank. I’m here to learn, have some fun and meet awesome people
Very true bro. Very true everybody has a character that fits their playstyle
Thanks, man. I needed this.
Amazing words Swe Thanks for the vid!
Adding this long comment late , so unlikely to be seen but: I think part of the difficulty is also that the *process* of active learning in general has been poisoned for many in their school years, work cultures etc. By ‘active learning’ I guess I mean the process of actually sitting down with the intention to study and to come away with new information, rather than passively acquiring it in the subconscious.
If you had difficulties in certain areas, or didn’t know something, or struggled with memorisation, very often the reaction from teachers/ peers/ colleagues was punitive - you’re told you’re lazy or stupid, you cause people to be exasperated or angry or (much worse) condescending, and this I think stops quite a lot of people from engaging with active learning at all- despite it being something that Tekken asks of its players (most games out there do not). I’m on a (very lengthy) ADHD waiting list, and while a possible diagnoses is not an excuse not to learn, it does mean I need a LOT of repetition and consistency to really drill the information into my brain before it can leak out again - a process which takes time and leads to huge amounts of frustration when I feel like I ‘should know this by now’. I think that phrase- ‘by now’- is perhaps the biggest obstacle, and it’s partly embodied in the ranked system and in the ways that players discuss their prowess in the game.
Losing at the game is punishment enough for not knowing a thing - but losing takes on a greater significance when you’ve had this prior toxic relationship to the learning process. Add a big dose of adrenaline and stress into the mix (it’s Tekken after all) and a losing streak begins to feel catastrophic- because it’s not actually about the game any more.
The biggest hurdle players need to get over is switching their relationship to this kind of learning- to see it all as exciting, to look at incremental ‘bits’ of knowledge as valuable, rather than necessary to ‘pass the exam’- the exam being, in this case, a rank promotion.
Writing things down helps mental recall too- fill a notebook with your discoveries, rather than a boring tally of your wins and losses
youre rank dosent matter. Ranked Anxiety cured
Unc always know how to give advice 🙏🏽
I recently broke every throw a King player hit me with and wr2'd them a couple of times when their throw attempt were read. By round 3 at half HP he just lay there and let me steel pedal him to death for a 3-0 win before they refused a rematch.
As someone who has only been training throw breaks consistently for a week or two (and admittedly not every break was a reaction break) it was *euphoric.*
Each time you break a king's throw, his confusion is tangible. Even though you don't see that guy in front of his monitor, you know he's puzzled.
And he damn commits mistakes, bigger after every single broken throw lol
@@kamilnowak4329 oh 100%, you can practically hear the whatdafuq soundbite as they stop pressing buttons for a solid second or two after you break their throw ahaha
Daily routine
1) Practice mode: pick 1 hated character punishment training (also practice throw breaks )
2) then fight cpu on hard for 15 minutes. Practice until you don't drop the most important combos
3) If you are still dropping important combo your brain is not fully awake. repeat step 2 . Otherwise proceed next step
4) play non-ranked until you have a 3 win streak.
5) now you ready for ranked
This is how Tien managed to hold off Cell for multiple hours
Ur a very underrated content creator
mainman i rly want to see a video where you explain ling xiaoyu's weaknesses as well as ninas. pls do video of them.
Bro I played like 100 hours of regular online matches before I played ranked. Then I played ranked to the second orange rank and went back to play another 100 hours of regular online play, played ranked to garyu red rank. AND THEN I played another 100 hours of regular online before I went back for teryu rank.
I'm currently playing another couple dozen hours to see how far I get when I go for ranks again.
I ranked with in a few win streaks, I stop when I lose more than 2 or 3 sets in a row. I have over 2000 regular online matches and only like 200 ranked matches.
My point is I don't grind ranked,, Instead I do what I consider sparring with random players of different ranks close to my own on regular online.
So when I play on ranked I'm able to really gauge my skill progression with no anxiety over how I'm going to perform, I already know how I'm going to do,
I'm only interested in seeing if people on my current rank are able to keep up with me.
Its a I'm not in the ring with you, you're in the ring with me kind of mentality. Its a great system if you really like the game genuinely.
Most people play to show off a rank for ego only.
Just remember guys, in real martial arts you have build up to the belts you earn.
No one can learn a whole system in one day. No matter how much you wanna show off a black belt and kick peoples asses, you have to earn it and know you deserve it by proving it to yourself before to others. The black belt only means you have risen to the level of a teacher.
Long story short.....JUst play the game because you like it and not because you wanna show off to others,
in the end you know the truth of yourself.
It all comes down to Mindset, i started playing Ranked in DBFZ and raged a lot because all i wanted was to rank up.
Nowadays i just play because i enjoy the game, im hard stuck at Mighty Ruler but i dont care.
Also I am stuck at ruler with my boy kazuya but I'm happy with it, only got warrior on TTT2, genbu on T7 and now mighty ruler on T8, that's a great level, keep learning and improving, fujin is behind the corner👀
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I agree, I'm at Flame Ruler, which is great, hopefully get to Fujin eventually. 🤞
@@Sykes.99same thing with me, was stuck with raven and now just promoted to fujin with raven.
Hard stuck Tekken king 😂
I watched the video without sound and i really like how Azucena was dancing when Kazuya is staring at him for straight 6:00 minutes ❤❤ (Part 3)
This is the type of content I love to see from MM. I didn’t watch the other video that looked interesting but the title completely turned me off. He is so good at stuff like this, I just wish some of the off putting humor would be toned down a bit because his intelligence in this game gets overlooked because of the jokes
I heard that if you just pick up Drag & Feng then you actually don’t have to learn anything about any other character because they will be too occupied with defending themselves 😂
Leo have the best offensive pressure. You can just enforce mixups all day.
@@pite9 I only played Leo for a while, Leo’s okay but it’s fake pressure. You can jab out of Knk
I used this mentality back in Tekken 7 when I first started playing online ranked. I went through green and orange ranks in a week and never went back down. It works and it makes the game more enjoyable. Find pleasure in the fact that you ducked and launched that cheesy string or launched that paul's demoman or deathfist
I gotta watch because I can't even PLAY ranked in both Tekken and Brawlhalla because of this for YEARS, I am saving it for later I hope you can finally cure me TMMSWE
Not really rank anxiety but man being new to tekken is the most brutal fighting game out there i feel like most of the time i can't even move. I'll be taking a long break from rank
Yeah it's really brutal. I remember when I started playing it was just terrible.
But that's why getting good at Tekken is so respectable and feel so good
@kamilnowak4329 a lot of times i try to whiff punish but then the opponent is continuing their string far away then I eat a counter hit into half life. Or if i choose to block now i don't know if the string is plus or minus its all a nightmare. Every other fighting game i played is no where near as punishing like this
I only plug on loading screen eddy, i was fine with it untill i realised i could not even use the 'play your replay' funcion because i did not buy eddy so i can't really understand his moves at all which makes it a bit unfair in my opinion. The replay option should work for your own character so i can learn how to punish moves 😩
I can excuse that plug, but eventually it does help to practice, try finding eddys in the lounge to fight against
Fuck eddy, no one who plays him is even learning him. Mash bunch of buttons and he'll handle the rest. Ill plug on him everytime, i refuse to ever have him on my screen. I put a black piece of tape on his character select box so i dont even have to see that bum there either.
I was under the impression that DLC characters were free to lab against. Seems like bamco lied again then.
@@garaktartv3647ya, that you can’t lab dlc characters in replays (while controlling your non dlc character) was such a betrayal.
@@garaktartv3647 yes its a bit bullshit
Press x to believe in your heart
Lmao
I’m happy with my rank Shinryu so I’m not going any further
King can armor through all that and still throw you.
1000% Once I got to Garyu with Lili. I stopped doing rank and focused on labbing, quick match, friendly sets and arcade lounge. Came from a long time of playing SF so it helps to have previous FG knowledge. Tekken is s whole different beast. Im having a great time learning this game and once i see myself pulling off more things and making better reads, counter play etc...ill go back to ranked.
i love thos guy, my favourite youtuber atm :D always funny with you bro, much love
I really wanna approach this mindset but once I get titled when I fight azucena or drags I just keep tilting and it feels like I keep digging my grave. How do I stop getting tilted?
Just start praising your enemies (when they make a good play at least) and mentally write a note on what you could've done "Damn that was a good move, i could've probably ducked that and punish"
When drag does 3 different plus 6 moves in a row say gj bro
i just wanna play ranked up til the point where people actually know how to play the game, which doesnt happen until like Purple or Blue? the road there is highkey boring
whats up mainman guys here
Then rematch the bears, too mainman.
Personally I honestly don't know why people take ranked so seriously tbh...
I think tank doesn't really constitute to skill per say. As there are characters that can get away with a lot currently in T8. So ranking up can be fairly easy for them.
I do ranked for fun to be honest and have been demoted like over 20 plus times between a rank climb or just not knowing match ups in general. However I pushed through and now am Tekken King. I plan to achieve Tekken emperor, once I improve my neutral. I main Shaheen and it was a hurdle.
Anyways my main point is that people who over glorify rank as skill is pretty immature. I take Ls all the time againest people who don't even play ranked. It's the learning experience that people should get out of it. Not "oh no I'm about to demote better cry about it." Personally my mindset is...just play the game and have a fun time.
It's mental immaturity. I meme and hold back in rank despite be being godlike but I guess winning is more important? I have dozens of those.
Honestly I feel that only king victor Reiner and dragunov are bullshit the rest I feel is okay maybe devil Jin is also a little annoying sometimes
Damn I needed this. Welp, back to the lab I go!
Great words overall
Also, I think, people need to understand that it's okay to get frustrated at times too, its a hard journey in this game, you will get angry, but stay focused at what you are trying to achieve
Fantastic video . Great advice!
The more I watch videos like this the more I feel I have a unorthodox approach to playing Tekken I personally never lab characters I only ever focus on improving muscle memory of pokes and combo routes in practice then I adjust and watch the person I'm playing because most people don't just the whole list of moves so I just memorize their mannerisms in match so naturally I spend most the match blocking I mean I'm not new to Tekken i played t7 but casually playing maybe 6 or so hours like 4 or 5 different days I got to mighty ruler rank so because I look at each match like almost a puzzle I'm solving I never get mad really only thing that upsets me is the games are best of 3
Well as for me, I can never force myself to lab anything. But I have a habit of intentionally not applying any offense just to see what people do and try to learn defense this way. Especially against less experienced players
Needed this video as a new tekken player
Kings rediculous armor moves are why he is bs not his throws. King players are probably the only players who spam power crush as much as they do in blue ranks, the vast majority lack the basics even lacking simple things like a real combo game or simple poking or movement. I have also seen multiple Kings in purple ranks with special style on the entire match easily winning games. The truth is some characters are in fact bs, but you won't be able to beat them until you learn the bs. However, Namco are a slowly turning into a complete shit company and need to get it together before this isn't the truth anymore. There are more and more instances where counter play isn't about learning anything but simply about guessing, safe high power crushes, op heat engagers, unstepable running moves, neutral skip moves, low high and mid crushing moves, etc. The bs is stacking up and what you said in this video might be true now but I am afraid to see what namco has planned in the future to invalidate what you explained in this video.
Amazing life lessons as well man..#themainmanswe
Loved playing kazyua thanks to you
Good advice, when ur opponent is gonna do a mix-up on u, don't try to mash or counterhit him or just guess if u r not sure it's going to work. LOOK AT UR OPPONENT'S CHARACTER and this way it is seasier to see if high-mid or low is coming. When I play, I usually don’t even look at my character or my opponent, but at the screen as a whole and that's a big mistake👆
One of the best things I learned about Tekken 8 is that yeah... It's pretty much bullshit no matter how much you lab a character now you got to figure out how your opponent plays that character because it could be completely different. And no matter what you do there is absolutely no way to stop DJ's bullshit
i noticed that when i play ranked w my main (zafina) im way more nervous, make more mistakes & more quick to one-and-done ppl than when i play w my sub characters (hwoarang, lee, devil jin)
Happened ti me twice I got rank demoted. Once from might ruler back to tenryu, then flame to mighty again. However, instead of freaking out that I demoted, I locked in and reevaluate my replays and try to figure out what buttons or decision making points I was doing incorrectly. After just a moment to rethink and learn wat went wrong, the gameplay became smoother, gameplay is smooth, rank is given. Even though yes I teehee haha funni Lars main, getting to blue off whiff punishing and ducking certain things from azucena made me pop off. The effort to learn a bit more rewards you alot more in tekken than other fighting games imo. And not tilting cuz oh I didnt know x scenario or option such as frame trap, 50/50 from chars I dint typicaly face against etc. Just keep at it m8s.
Just imagine if Bamco released a pay to win item that prevents demotion in ranked matches.
I second that, I have been playing at the arcades, on group matches I believe they are called? against everybody, good, bad, high ranks, mid ranks, etc. So basically i jump in to tekken arcades and run my ass out to the middle of the group matches arcades and sit my ass down and play, if somebody beats me badly the better, I'll run that rematch button all day, and after 3 or 4 days I jump on to rank again and I can see the improvement, and after that I do it again, I'll play 2 or 3 days on the arcades and go back to rank for like a hour or two.
I'm stuck in Fujin purgatory right now. 🤦♂️
I'll get a streak going and then get murdered by a kishin/bushin Alisa or something, and it'll ruin everything
It funny how I cameback to this vid cause of losing to Hwuarang and King mainly due to knowledge check, and I tell you what even tho I got my rank back it didn't felt good.
I will believe in my heart.
5:13 Quoting Rocky Balboa when your name is Adrian lol
This is a perdictable wave fighting games get where people hate the game for any reason after two months. The cirtisisms are valid at times don't get me wrong, but look at the life span of any fighting game and you will see a simular trend
How to win: play what's broken at the moment.
Tag 2 TMM: *says things that would get you banned today when losing ranked*
Anyways play more player match and less ranked and you will learn more. God willing we get unlimited rematches soon, I learned the most out of any tekken game in T7 because of the limitless rematches
Nothing has made me better at Tekken and helped my rank more than never wanting to be gimmicked by Eddy ever again
Just Eddy? What is Eddy’s gimmick anyway? I should say every character has gimmicks, so I’m not sure why “just Eddy.”
@@funkrates4778 Simple, the way he moves. Labbing Eddy on top of several others is one thing, but adjusting to him and the player's own style in real time is another.
@@Beforezzz that’s true for every single character though
@@funkrates4778 But everyone doesn't move like Eddy does. He's a trickier character to read and react to.
@@Beforezzz is this your first Tekken or have you played others before?
But when you play againts asuka, alucena , dragunov or jun its feel like bullshit all the time
Yeah, we've heard that before, TMM, in your whole "teach me" mind set thing, but that didn't last long lol I'm sure we'll start seeing you rage against the characters that, according to you, "no one plays" veeeery soon 😂
Haha watch the latest stream. To be fair though you rarely meet any Shaheens in gold rank. He stopped his GoD run after getting 2 jacks, fought the same Shaheen twice, and Drag
I will never resort to labbing but I also don’t complain when I lose in ranked. I’ll just stop playing altogether if my highest rank is gonna rank down
Rly needed this, ty
MainMan always makes fun of Animies but deep inside, he is Animie. He just doesnt know it yet but we grow
This is amazing advice. I've always said the same thing.
When you play to learn the game and enjoy playing it, you will climb rank with it
Tekken teaches you real life lessons
I main Azucena and I am still crap. I try and do my best and watch all these tips and tricks videos on here and no matter what I do I just fail and fail. I watch my replays and take control and learn how to avoid or punish some attacks but go into ranked and forget it all. I'm so useless. Just wish I could be good at something.
How to come over rank anxiety? Easy, stop caring about the rank. If you deserve a high rank you will eventually get it, and if you're sure you deserve a better rank - have fun proving it while beating people you're sure are worse than you.
That’s good life advice as well 💯✊🏿
bro i started playing raven after hitting red ranks with reina as a new tek player. bro this game is hard asf.
Raven is hard to master, very technical character, just hit fujin with him
Can't wait when TMM goes on a Alisa drill xD
My kaz was hard stuck in blue.......so now I'm playing Feng 😂😂😂 ive labbed a lot since the drop but since I had a strong Feng in 7 life is easy in rank rn. Got 4 promos in less than a hour. Dude is perfect and super op, add that with legacy fundamentals = easy points ......Yes I sold out 😅
It really doesn't matter. I play on Xbox Series S, right now I have a one second delay at the start every match. My characters are completely freeze and the imputs doesn't work. Sometimes I break throws from Tekkengod ranks, but somehow a Mighty Ruler with bad internet can grab me like nothing. Some player are just teleporting and then we have the meta zombies. This game is bad for mental health
Hmmm Im on Series X and my game seems fine here.
Mainman grew up. Tag 2 Mainman was always tilted.
Scrubman, anyone that's gonna have that mindset is gonna have it already. Winners gonna win, losers gonna lose. You might change one mind maybe.
Peace be upon you. ^w^
I thought he was talking about madusa in the beginning 😂
My Mindset is they're not the BS, I'm the BS, and then proceeded to go straight to Mighty Ruler with Victor with a 88% Win Rate, feels like the character carried me but that character is the definition of BS and knowing punishment.
Yea lately I've been like fuck them rank points, How does that move work? Oh I can duck this? Oh they are plus on that move! Oh I can launch that move?!i keep learning and learning the characters general offense watching myself get the shit kicked out of me and next time I fight that character it doesn't feel so oppressive.
all i want is Tekken needs to make a system where you have to make a ingame Stability test and if you drop to many frames you cannot play online. Its insane how many times a game has 5FPS and the enemys connection thing is perma on red.
Cause its simply unfun and annoying. Or show not only they Connection but also their FPS or something xD I think the 'no content' feature is amazing if someone lags but that only counts in connection unfortunately not if your opponent runs the game on literal 20frames