BRADFORD WHITE DRIECT VENT GAS WATER HEATER SHUTTING DOWN NOT HEATING WATER
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- BRADFORD WHITE DRIECT VENT GAS WATER HEATER SHUTTING DOWN NOT HEATING WATER
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yes the flamable vapor sensor i had my own do that it was the flamable vapor sensor you can mesure them with an ohm meter under 11k or above 45k its bad they do age out amonia sewer gas also water vapor
Good shit!
People say these mishaps rarely happen to old heaters and they don't build them like that anymore. The truth is older systems are a lot simpler and the current municipal codes make these functions mandatory and thus there is no KISS systems anymore. We all just have to get used to all these features that require maintenance and pay for it royally.
Good information Steve! I have the exact same hot water heater. It's only 27 months old but if it ever behaves the same as this one, I'll know what to try first!
My sister just got a new natural gas water heater. The thing is in the attic! It went out after about a week. The thermocouple was defective. It was a two man job to get the old one out and the new one in. Back in the 1950's, those heaters were made out of steel nearly 3/16 inch thick.
I have never seen black stuff like was on that burner. Of course, down in Louisiana we have natural gas nearly everywhere, except out in the woods. I live in an all electric home, so everything is simpler. The house still has the original HVAC air handler in the hall since it was built in 1978. I had to get a new condenser unit in 2011. The aluminum evaporator coil is original from 1978. Sitting atop those electric heating elements, how it has lasted that long amazes me.
I'm going on about 20 years with my Bradford White water heater , I've replaced the power vent unit twice at 420.bucks a pop and had it shutting down on me one time due to lint in the screen at the outside exhaust outlet but other than that it's been giving us good service , thanks .
I had to replace my flammable vapor sensor on a 3 year old water tank. Fortunately the blinking code indicated that this was the problem so I was able to buy the kit off Amazon for like 20 bucks and replace it myself. I had a section of my floor re-sanded and Polyurethane applied to the floor next to the tank closet and I'm positive the fumes from it tripped the sensor on the water tank.
My plumber put one of these in one of my rental units. It went out within a week. Turned out to be a bad valve unit which was on a new water heater!
Supposed to be “high end” but I suspect their quality control!!!
Good afternoon Steve love your new truck you should be good to go for years
I just had a homeowner who has 4 cats in basement. You won't believe how much hair I took out of heater.
Glad to see you back in business Steve can’t keep a good man down lol
It will be a condensate issue in the future being the condensate drain on the blowers motor is not hooked up! That's in the install Manuel clear as day. It should of never passed inspection without it.
I install a ton of these. There is no condensate drain on these blowers.
@@gidzey4783 Your wrong my friend. Right where the exhaust pipe connects into the rubber coupling is a drain port that is temporarily capped in the factory. That is where the condensate drains when the cap is removed. Clear as day instructions in the installation manual how to properly install the drain. Read it!!
i pulled the cap off no condensate in there at all
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Wow it is soooooooo much more quiet. With your new truck...
Love the new truck, glad your back to work!
Thanks Steve. I haven't come across one of these yet, and it's great to get a preview.
Having that 4x3 reducer on a horizontal will trap some condensation in the exhaust.
Liking the work truck set up!
This one was tricky! Please keep us posted if there is a callback. I was thinking that you were going to change the valve but good to have those small fvs in truck👍
my BW power vent never touched in 15 yrs,bought one about year ago for son,1400.00,dont remember seeing that sensor hanging on side?
It gets its flame rectification through the spark electrode like those Rheem mid furnaces with no separate flame sensor back in the day
Baffles me why they no longer make direct vent water heaters without a power blower. I have one from 18 years ago that cost me around $500. It requires no power and uses outside combustion air and is still working flawlessly, even during winter power outages. I found new, old stock of exact heater but now it costs $1,800 plus shipping while everything else is power vent which don't work during a power outage. Love that thing - raised 3 kids with it from birth through high school.
New safety and efficiency standards
They make regular direct vent and power vent water heaters for A.O. Smith. Power vents have blowers and direct vents don't.
I replaced my 20 year old Rheem ( which was still working) with a direct vent A.O. Smith 6 months ago … gas company had a deal. Really nice unit and quite economical to run.
You are one hundred percent correct everything is fucked up with pcb board and electronics Take this from a heating,plumbing and gas contractor fir 45 years in Boston MA and Ireland 🇮🇪 my home country
i looked that model number up there are parts for it but the heater was discontinued.. I had a bradford white 80gal electric for 20 years.. replaced many parts on it and I finally gave up on it and got a hoe-depot 50gal electric.. it makes the water hot thats all that matters.
That's a quiet ride on the intro.
Nice fix.
Sediment, Steve's pulling out the big words mama
dam modern computerized crap all kinds of stupid things to break down i like the old pilot light water heaters only thing that went bad was thermocouple you could just have a spare and fix it in 10 minutes.
Pilot on go out when you are ready to start the next step
Service manual says 3 flashes, pause 3 seconds and repeat is pressure switch or blower temp switch. Will wait 2 minutes then tries again as long S there is a call for heat.
Manual also says through the wall vent can have 5 elbows if it’s 3 inch and 4 if 2 inch, if it’s a 40, 50 or 60 gallon tank.
Glad to see you back out in the field 🙌
Water heaters used to be the simplest appliance to repair in the home. Now a lot of them are over engineered. Let’s thank our politicians.
Nope safety safety
More for safety old man. Sorry this isnt the 40’s.
Atmosphere vent water heaters were a simple concept with safety .
Efficiency and safety standards change over time.
Liberal politics. Don't care about safety. They only care is to drain you Bank account
It ain't easy being cheesy Momma!
FVS goes into a lockout if they trip and you have to manual reset & replace with a new one..hopefully not a call back Steve!😊
The tall piping on the outside of the house is collecting condensation, then it flows back into the unit and the unit senses it and shuts down, that pipe needs to be shortened
Do a continuity and a resistance test on the sensor and that will tell you its status
New truck is so quiet.
Glad to see you're back on the road Steve. Love your videos.
could you not test with jumper wire on that sensor?
Steve's back at it again momma! Good to see you back on the road Steve! 👍
Thanks for the video Steven! Getting an education from every video!
Had this happen on my 15 year old 50 gallon Bradford White powered vent about five weeks ago. The gas valve was flashing normal (one flash every 4 seconds), blower motor would kick on and the burner would light sporadically but both would shut off after about 5 seconds, water obviously wasn't coming up to temperature, Momma unhappy.
Everything appeared to be clean and working properly. After watching this video and looking through the comments I checked resistance (thanks @KHansen). I replaced it with part SP20172 (updated) and it has been operating properly since. 🙂
mine was randomly shutting down and the sparker wasnt lighting so took it apart, clean it and it went out again. took it apart and blew out that bottom grate and havent had an issue since. that was about two month ago. the bottom wasnt bad but bad enough to where not enough air was getting in and the pilot would go out.
mine didnt have the blower motor. it was natural venting so air flow is important.
Manufactured during month of Feb. 2009 . Getting a little old.
Howdy Steve and Molly
*When they say I am from the Government and here to help, all the problems happen!* 🤣
You should put a bench grinder on your truck knock those custys off! Wire wheel! Great video
The Master, makes it look easy!
Could be starving for air. The flame arrestor (air intake) screen could be plugged with dust and needs to be cleaned.
Idk, that flame looked perfectly fine while running. For sure seemed like a safety lockout
Finally the Taj Mahal
See the venting how it’s 90’s up then directly down for sure needs the drain line installed off the boot at the venter output
Hello Steve!
What's up with dirty gas up there. Never had that problem.
A nice and simple fix!
I've had those shut off because of dust on the inlet filter
Nice fix
We installed a brand new tank like that in a rental ,the main sensor went out before even using it ,guess the paint fumes jacked up the sensor .
The new truck is so quiet. Can't imagine what that spiffy gas valve costs.
After it shut down the first time you initially got a code 8-3. That is a gas valve fault.
An intermittent one at that !
Steven I haven't seen Miss Molly but one time since you got your new truck Miss Molly must be retired take care
She's been in the last several videos...
the replacement will fail in a few months if the basement is damp or dusty. easy fix, stretch a 30Kohm resistor across the FVS, and tell the owner now to wash the floor with gasoline. Problem solved.
👍 As my old granny used to say, "There's hardly a problem in the world a gallon of gas and a match won't cure" 😁
Nice one thanks for the process
Hey Steve and Miss Molly! Workin’ again y’all. 👍👍
Nice glad you got it up and running. How is the new truck working for you. Cheers
At least they use Honeywell controls. The low oxygen sensor on my propane garage heater went bad and it kept shutting down. Looks like someone BBQ'd a hamburger on the burner? Good Job!!!
That’s why the burner is a full of shot Steve
Got a water heater like this one so far so good
good to see you back steve john from london
What code was flashing Steve? Just curious. Serviced one the other day - four flashes - had to replace gas control
How you liking the new truck??
its great love it
Right, pray your stuff doesn't break now. 2023 and a wake up (Platoon 1986 American film). I'm going to cycle my electric water heater in the late spring! For sure!
Looks like the end of that exaust pipe is causing too much condensation running back snuffing the system and eating away the burner assembly. It didn't look too kosher!
It’s the venting I bet
It’s getting condensation back from the exhaust
And yes the speaker acts as a flamsensor
Steve says every time he fixes stuff AIN'T NO STEP FOR A STEPPER!!!
SOUTHERN SLANG
It's called flame sense lose. The electrode can't get a good flame sense. They need to be replaced
It’s needs a drain line to drain off the condensate and clean the speaker and flame sensor geound
looks like another great job. how long did you stick around before leaving after you changed the sensor?
ran 1/2 hour. Then i left ...... so far no call back .. with old sensor it would shut down every few minutes
@@stevenlavimoniere great fix.
Complicated appliances nowadays. Maura Healy is now coming for our Gas stoves
Doesn't natural gas produce a small amount of water during the combustion process? Does that exhaust line/pipe in need of some type of bleeder valve with a P strap of some type somewhere to drain out that condensation?
Other thing is it could be the gas valve it it's not getting the proper gas pressure going through
Steve is back y'all 👍👍
If that’s an 8-3 fault code then the gas valve is defective
An intermittent one at that !
Gee, I think, that last flame with Yellow, is a sign, of reduced air flow, Is that exhaust blower, fan not sized right? or that pipe too big ?
Is that money jingling in your pocket or is your phone ringing?
Those vapor sensors are way to sensitive any amount of cleaner used in the room will set it off
Let's fire our politicians.
Hi Steve from Springfield Massachusetts
Wwwooooo Letts ggoooo😀 just in time for dinner
very good job🔧🔧
Was expecting the catch phrase:
It’s a crusty one mamma 😉
I flushed mine out and now the pressure valve keeps dripping. I opend the drain and popped the valve open a couple times hoping it would pull it back in.
It must suck not having a chimney
Sure does.😂😂😂
New truck is way quieter.
piss on electronic ignition, get a pilot light, no garbage computer, come on!!!!@!!
Brand new bacho shifter
I thought the vapor sensor would take out the electronic control board if it tripped?
It does it works on resistance
So does the owner have an open can of gas next to the WH? What was setting it off?
things do bad all the time for no reason
The old truck used to rattle !
How about NY whats to do away with gas
I heard that too. Sounds crazy. I don't know how they will pull that off.
Hot water heaters, stoves, furnaces New York ans California crazy
Steve what happened we got cut off at the end of the video at least I did?
its working fine now
When you are on the road now you are living in the Taj Mahal
Where's Molly
👍
Gas pressure too high on that burner ?
No. If so, flames would be rising from the burner head, which they were not.
@@Robnord1 I could be wrong but it look's like soot on the burner ; Not enough air or too much gas or something is dropping onto it ?
@@michelgrenier1878 That was rust, not soot. If it was soot generating flame Steve would have dealt with it or at least mentioned it to the customer. It had a touch more yellow on the tips than I am used to, but I only see older, lower efficiency units.
That's the wrong color flame brother