Yes I am seeing a lot of positive boat developments coming from Turkey. I'm going there in April to see what else I can learn. Last time I went we had some awesome meat BBQ lunches which was right up my alley! Plus everyone there liked boats so felt very welcome. Yes 100% dream job! Hope it's bringing you some value!
I like it, Might not like the wood after a few years but there are some real interesting boats coming out of Turkey. Bering and the new Norhavn's come to mind. I like all the space so its a pretty clean slate to add the equipment you want. Wish they had more information about their bigger boats on their website.
That really depends on a few factors. Experience, equipment (thrusters etc), location and local conditions. The technology today allows someone like myself to safely run a 65ft Riviera by myself. However if you’re starting out and want something manageable while you learn the ropes then 22-28ft and not overly powerful makes a lot more sense! Think… Jeanneau Merry Fisher for outboard or this Barbaros for inboard. However I see this Barbaros appealing to guys who have sailed before so while they have lots of experience this may be their first step into the world of motor boats.
Interesting on many levels, Dan. She's a dead ringer for a Mainship Pilot 34, built in Florida some decades ago and still quite popular. But much more craftsmanship is visible here. Dan, I would encourage you add a 'green' element in your future reviews. Things like 'Can the builder incorporate solar?' 'Has the builder accommodated owners retrofitting solar with cable conduits?' 'Do builders in some regions show more awareness to alternative energy and/or incorporate electric propulsion than other regions?' One can assume that Barbaros hard top will easily accept solar panels....but has the builder provided an easy solution for mounting them and snaking the wires? (Or for that matter, the same question for a radar addition). Just a thought...but it does seem like a brief comment on this topic is now more relevant than most reviews reflect.
Hi Jack! Yes possibly inspired by the same designs i'm not sure. If I get a chance to visit them in Turkey i'll film it and let you guys know. Good thoughts on the solar options Jack. I'm not a huge fan of electric power on motor boats because I see more negatives than positives but things like alternative power generation do make sense. Cheers!
A part-time solar panel, one that's on a boat being used for 50 hours a year, isn't green. That same panel would be better off being used where people will be using it for most of the year. If you want a green yacht get a sailing boat that doesn't have A/C or an engine. And made of wood.
@@darthkek1953 I think you have reversed the science a bit. Solar might have little role when a power boat is being used; the boat has ample power generation from its engine. For the typical boater, solar's 'green' value is in recharging and then maintaining a boat's battery bank both after it's been used and then inbetween uses. E.g. I have a camping trailer with solar and its house bank - in simple 'olde world' lead acid chemistry - has maintained most of its capacity after 5 years of use. That's in large measure thanks to the solar controller fed by the RV's panel. The boat I'm buying is another good example: 600 amp/hrs of house bank which is likely to be drawn down deeply while we're out on the hook. But returning to the marina, solar takes over and brings the bank up, over time & at a healthy rate, to full capacity during the week. Not replacing a 5 year old house bank and not 'plugging in' to recharge a large house bank are both 'green' in my book.
@@jacktyler7599 600 amp hours at 12 volts is 7.2 kwh. In the UK, which has high energy prices, that's about £1.80. If you're 24 volt it's £3.60. 100% empty to 100% full. If you want to call it green to not take that much from the grid, fine but it is so small as to be undetectable. On an RV they make more sense, you can be away for weeks parked up. it's not about cost its about sheer access. For a boat it makes less sense if you have a genset, but there are boats without gensets on. Dan did a review of an Aquila without a generator, just batteries. Solar might not keep on top if you have the A/C on but it might be enough to replenish lighting & music & satnav drain.
@@darthkek1953 Let's first agree that neither of us is in charge of what the other person values. And to be sure, the UK is not the poster country for solar. My location is southwest Florida. The one county where I live has 5,000 pleasure boats registered with the state. There are 67 counties in Florida, most of which have water access because of the state's shape and its many lakes. The weather is such that boating is possible almost year 'round. That's not much different than the Sydney-Gold Coast-Brisbane area of Oz where Dan has been located. You can see how the numbers quickly ramp up. So feel free to diminish the value of solar in UK recreational boating. Having cruised there for several years after our first transatlantic, I can understand that. But in other parts of the world, solar's 'green' value in recreational boating is already massive, including the many sea buoys here that offer 24/7 conditions reporting.
Looked pretty good from what I saw. I have made one trip to Turkey so far and was very impressed with their manufacturing base. I'll pop over again this year for another look to see what I can learn. I'm seeing many builders moving operations to Turkey so there must be a good reason for this, and I did notice they have a history of building boats that goes back literally thousands of years.
@@darthkek1953 This is true they build incredible wood and steel boats and yatchs at their best with a touch of historic flare or working with Dutch, German and sometimes other European designers.
Turkey has something called "free zones". The gist of it is that importing a product that you plan to use in your product to then be sold outside of the country is a tax free endeavor. There is more to it, but it has allowed Turkey to encourage and keep skilled craftsmen at home and manufacturers to remain competitive while using the international parts a customer wants.
So this is actually GRP with wood trim gunnels and around the cockpit. But you're right this builder also does a lot of wooden boats in the traditional way. I'd like to visit them so if I get an opportunity i'll film it.
@@BoatLife_DansBoatLife It was deliberately devalued to make commodity exports more attractive by Keating. this and powerful unions prevent manufacturing from being viable. This is why it was laughable when Albo claimed he was going to make the cost of living easier. It's never gonna happen for the working class. the irony...
Yeah I'm sure a few people agree with that. But it's also manageable for the guy that will do the work so a reasonable compromise. I know a lot of timber sailing yacht owners at my yacht club would would love this and consider it less work than their yachts so it's just a different perspective.
The Turks gradually became more proficient in this matter. They may soon take over the world boat market. They not only produce these big motor yachts, but also ultra luxury mega yachts for the richest people in the world.
So yes I think you may be right on that. Polish domination on smaller boats and Turkish doing bigger is definitely a trend. Also SE Asia and China rising fast in manufacturing
Love this boat!!! Has ton of style but still single engine so not as much running cost so great value.
That boat have lovely lines!
I agree, she looks cool from every angle
We are starting to make some nice boats back in Turkey . I miss home. Nice work again .keep it going you got a dream job bud .
Yes I am seeing a lot of positive boat developments coming from Turkey. I'm going there in April to see what else I can learn. Last time I went we had some awesome meat BBQ lunches which was right up my alley! Plus everyone there liked boats so felt very welcome. Yes 100% dream job! Hope it's bringing you some value!
lovin it, beauty
nice boat, explanation, videography, editing and making
Cheers - appreciate that. Vas a very hot day so we worked for it lol
Beautiful woodwork!
Normally not a fan of the lobster boats, but I really like this one. Nicely done and not over the top with the timber work.
She's just enough boat for so many guys I feel. Sensible and not over the top.
A great modern version of a classic.
That's a beauty love it
What a little beauty...
I like it, Might not like the wood after a few years but there are some real interesting boats coming out of Turkey. Bering and the new Norhavn's come to mind. I like all the space so its a pretty clean slate to add the equipment you want. Wish they had more information about their bigger boats on their website.
The styling is reminiscent of 60s Chris Craft
I really like the look!
Classy hey
Just want to know Dan, what max size of boat you would consider safe and comfortable to single hand.
That really depends on a few factors. Experience, equipment (thrusters etc), location and local conditions.
The technology today allows someone like myself to safely run a 65ft Riviera by myself. However if you’re starting out and want something manageable while you learn the ropes then 22-28ft and not overly powerful makes a lot more sense! Think… Jeanneau Merry Fisher for outboard or this Barbaros for inboard. However I see this Barbaros appealing to guys who have sailed before so while they have lots of experience this may be their first step into the world of motor boats.
What are the big boxes hanging down above the helm and navigator stations?
They coved the windscreen wiper motors. You see that on a lot of boats this style
You had me at shaft...... ahem....😬😬😬
Interesting on many levels, Dan. She's a dead ringer for a Mainship Pilot 34, built in Florida some decades ago and still quite popular. But much more craftsmanship is visible here. Dan, I would encourage you add a 'green' element in your future reviews. Things like 'Can the builder incorporate solar?' 'Has the builder accommodated owners retrofitting solar with cable conduits?' 'Do builders in some regions show more awareness to alternative energy and/or incorporate electric propulsion than other regions?' One can assume that Barbaros hard top will easily accept solar panels....but has the builder provided an easy solution for mounting them and snaking the wires? (Or for that matter, the same question for a radar addition). Just a thought...but it does seem like a brief comment on this topic is now more relevant than most reviews reflect.
Hi Jack! Yes possibly inspired by the same designs i'm not sure. If I get a chance to visit them in Turkey i'll film it and let you guys know. Good thoughts on the solar options Jack. I'm not a huge fan of electric power on motor boats because I see more negatives than positives but things like alternative power generation do make sense. Cheers!
A part-time solar panel, one that's on a boat being used for 50 hours a year, isn't green. That same panel would be better off being used where people will be using it for most of the year. If you want a green yacht get a sailing boat that doesn't have A/C or an engine. And made of wood.
@@darthkek1953 I think you have reversed the science a bit. Solar might have little role when a power boat is being used; the boat has ample power generation from its engine. For the typical boater, solar's 'green' value is in recharging and then maintaining a boat's battery bank both after it's been used and then inbetween uses. E.g. I have a camping trailer with solar and its house bank - in simple 'olde world' lead acid chemistry - has maintained most of its capacity after 5 years of use. That's in large measure thanks to the solar controller fed by the RV's panel. The boat I'm buying is another good example: 600 amp/hrs of house bank which is likely to be drawn down deeply while we're out on the hook. But returning to the marina, solar takes over and brings the bank up, over time & at a healthy rate, to full capacity during the week. Not replacing a 5 year old house bank and not 'plugging in' to recharge a large house bank are both 'green' in my book.
@@jacktyler7599 600 amp hours at 12 volts is 7.2 kwh. In the UK, which has high energy prices, that's about £1.80. If you're 24 volt it's £3.60. 100% empty to 100% full. If you want to call it green to not take that much from the grid, fine but it is so small as to be undetectable. On an RV they make more sense, you can be away for weeks parked up. it's not about cost its about sheer access. For a boat it makes less sense if you have a genset, but there are boats without gensets on. Dan did a review of an Aquila without a generator, just batteries. Solar might not keep on top if you have the A/C on but it might be enough to replenish lighting & music & satnav drain.
@@darthkek1953 Let's first agree that neither of us is in charge of what the other person values. And to be sure, the UK is not the poster country for solar. My location is southwest Florida. The one county where I live has 5,000 pleasure boats registered with the state. There are 67 counties in Florida, most of which have water access because of the state's shape and its many lakes. The weather is such that boating is possible almost year 'round. That's not much different than the Sydney-Gold Coast-Brisbane area of Oz where Dan has been located. You can see how the numbers quickly ramp up. So feel free to diminish the value of solar in UK recreational boating. Having cruised there for several years after our first transatlantic, I can understand that. But in other parts of the world, solar's 'green' value in recreational boating is already massive, including the many sea buoys here that offer 24/7 conditions reporting.
Turkish, like Korean equipment, looks the part. Awesome product design. I am however highly sceptical about overall quality from either country.
Looked pretty good from what I saw. I have made one trip to Turkey so far and was very impressed with their manufacturing base. I'll pop over again this year for another look to see what I can learn. I'm seeing many builders moving operations to Turkey so there must be a good reason for this, and I did notice they have a history of building boats that goes back literally thousands of years.
The Turks have a great reputation for seaworthiness.
@@darthkek1953
This is true they build incredible wood and steel boats and yatchs at their best with a touch of historic flare or working with Dutch, German and sometimes other European designers.
Turkey has something called "free zones". The gist of it is that importing a product that you plan to use in your product to then be sold outside of the country is a tax free endeavor. There is more to it, but it has allowed Turkey to encourage and keep skilled craftsmen at home and manufacturers to remain competitive while using the international parts a customer wants.
I wonder what the Hinckley people would say about this "picnic" boat...
I wonder! Boats of this style are popular in Europe so you do see this.
My first take: A bargain Hinckley. Simple and sharp looking. I'd buy one for coastal Carolinas sailing.
Too bad you don’t see these for sale in the states
Its a wood boat not excepted in any American MARINA but a nice hull design
So this is actually GRP with wood trim gunnels and around the cockpit. But you're right this builder also does a lot of wooden boats in the traditional way. I'd like to visit them so if I get an opportunity i'll film it.
I really like this style of boat, but that price is just ridiculous!
Since covid the prices on all boats have gone super crazy. When you compare this to British and American alternatives it's actually reasonable.
Wait... This starts at $550k...?
Whaaaat??
The Aussie Dollar isn't worth what it once was hey.
@@BoatLife_DansBoatLife It was deliberately devalued to make commodity exports more attractive by Keating. this and powerful unions prevent manufacturing from being viable. This is why it was laughable when Albo claimed he was going to make the cost of living easier. It's never gonna happen for the working class. the irony...
@@antoncarmoducchi6057 I guess that explains why I am moving to SE Asia tomorrow - Bang for buck seems a lot better than Australia these days.
Buy it in ten years for half that. If they sale alot. It is a beautiful boat. Ditto on reminecent of '60's Chris Craft my first thought
Great review. Nice boat, but overpriced.
It seems like all boats are more expensive since covid though.
Less wood would be better
Yeah I'm sure a few people agree with that. But it's also manageable for the guy that will do the work so a reasonable compromise. I know a lot of timber sailing yacht owners at my yacht club would would love this and consider it less work than their yachts so it's just a different perspective.
Galiba Türklere değil yabancılara satmak istiyorsunuz
Yes this one was built for an Australian audience.
The Turks gradually became more proficient in this matter. They may soon take over the world boat market. They not only produce these big motor yachts, but also ultra luxury mega yachts for the richest people in the world.
So yes I think you may be right on that. Polish domination on smaller boats and Turkish doing bigger is definitely a trend. Also SE Asia and China rising fast in manufacturing