I immediately thought of this tweet when I saw AK clobber JimmyJ with Shaheen at EVO Japan. He put on one hell of a performance all the way till grand finals.
I get the Hopkick nerfs but nerfing shaheen's 4,1 was unnecessary ....and 4 into db2 doesn't work anymore which makes his magic 4 alone pretty much useless
You didnt mention that he got better punishment now, they added 2,3 as 10 frame punish instead of 2,1 and also his f2,3 gives you a knockdown and wallsplat.
The only newcomer that I was willing to pick up to learn fundamentals from because of the small movelist......WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HIM! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY BOI! MY SWEET, SWEET BOI!
Man shaheen needs a major upgrade after this. how do you nerf a character who's already nerfed(after FR update) and he got the most limited movelist in the entire series? How?
Shaheen was absolutely broken in 7.0. He was my highest ranked character and that was 90% just 4,1 spam, which for a time jailed and was -1 on block. He also got a free, guaranteed unscaled ws+3 at the end of combos. Shaheen is yeah a bit weaker than in Season 1, but he's still really solid, and imo a more fun and diverse character to play.
Another big nerf in Shaheen's neutral game was making his db+2 unsafe at -10. In previous seasons you could fish with it and it was pretty easy to hit confirm but now you can't even do the first part as a poke. It feels unnecessary because plenty characters have a safe mid into a hit confirmable high (Lee's f+2,1 and King's df+2,1 for example).
For anyone claiming that Shaheen is dead, etc;. just a reminder that AK got second at EVO Japan this year using Shaheen almost entirely throughout. Nerfed? Yeah. Massacred? Hell no.
I've been playing T7 online for about a year now, and I think I can count on one hand the number of Shaheens I've fought. He was one of the characters I wanted to try and learn just to piss off certain people, if you catch my drift, but he just didn't click with me. Still like him, though.
Great vid as usual. 2 things I missed though: extra emphasis on his new i10 punisher in 23 instead of just 12 or 21. And the fact that CH f3 now is way easier to juggle from with d3~SNK2.
Shaheen is so simple, yet extremely fun to play. If you really want to learn how to play Tekken using fundamentals, movement and basic mixups without the need for great execution then he is the perfect choice.
hmmm damn i might mess around w/ shaheen ran into some online lately to funny more noctis's let's go season 3 to season 4 with 2 more characters to damn serious meta mix up's to new feature's to hope us on PC get the juke box but damn who the last two coming will we get another 2D character!? a OG!? or another crossover to 100% yet another original character!? damn harada loves us after all lol
It would be nice if they recolored or redesigned some of these stages. Overwrite the current stages. After every other update or something even Would really be nice...because most of the maps in this game look terrible Seriously some of the worst stages I've ever seen. Playstation 2 fighting maps look better which is just shameful
Hey just started playing the game recently, love your channel man. Any videos of yours you recommend that go over basic fundamentals like footsies, spacing and neutral? I mostly have trouble with reacting to lows and knowing when to block or try to parry. Also when I'm dragunov and do b2~1, 3, 1+2 where you feint sweep into grab, i always get punched when the guy reacts (i was facing a really good smurf with a 100% winrate) when he crouches. So the move seems completely useless and garbage cause the opponent can crouch and block it and launch punish or just punch you out of the grab. It sucks.
SunbroSolaireTV I’m also a drag main, what he did was fuzzy guard the move making that specific move sort of useless against experienced players. However if u do the b,2,1 then do it again immediately after, but do not sweep, it trips them up a little. Usually once u condition them to think u won’t do the sweep when ever u begin to get some pressure on them the b,2,1,3 sweep will hit, u may only get to do it once per match so make the most of it.
B 2,1 faint into the grab doesn't work the better you get. A better move is b 4,2 ~1+2. That string is normally supposed end on a plus frame high, so many people duck it. The 1+2 faints into the ultimate tackle. Not many expect the take down. While of course none of the grabs are guaranteed, it's still viable against experienced players to throw from time to time.
Till his SNK stance is pretty much useless only a selected few will play him. Players need gimmicks, he only relies on fundamentals. (PS: Shaheen main)
Lol you reaching, he isn't that interesting of a character from a lore AND Gameplay perspective Claudio JUST like Shaheen suffers from the same problems, not that interesting of a character ALL CHARACTERS require fundamentals n repeating a move because it's a "gimmick" is a sure fire to get bodied Only ppl who need gimmicks are players who aren't that good in tekken
@@arcadescrub5138 Claudio has way more character than Shaheen, and starbirst is a great UNIQUE tool. The majority of the playerbase are not pros, they use gimmicks they dont play the perfect way. There is a reason, why the most popular characters have unique moves, that relies on the opponent to know rhe matchup. Shaheens fundamental tools are great, his punishment is easy top 5, only need a couple of moves to separare his char from the rest.(not just a law lee hibrid)
@@diam0ndben but starburst doesn't give itself out for free, yes it's a unique tool but all it does is buff certain moves(season 2 onward) Claudio WITHOUT starburst is no dif from Shaheen, bad lows, decent highs and good mids All characters in fighters need moves to make them "scary" aka require match up knowledge otherwise you just get the "negan treatment"(learning the match up isn't necessary because alot of his moves are visually unsafe) Claudio and Shaheen are basic characters with tools to make one learn the match up but they're not that scary(Shaheen stealth stance,and Claudio's starburst) both are conceptually great but aren't standout in practice
Let's be real here though. Only a small molecular section of the community actually give a damn about shaheen Most other people just don't care. I myself sometimes even forget the man is on the roster lol
Kinda unrelated, but I always wondered something. Why do most Bryan players use that double knee move at the wall instead of Machine Gun punch ? If I’m not mistaken doesn’t it do more damage ?
Yeah he is definitely worse then season 1. He should get buffed in some other way tho. I don't get why his f 3+4 move doesn't hit grounded like Lee. His stance 2 has been buffed with it being save but you don't get anything really good out of it, like there is no good follow up from a counterhit. the limited movelist doesn't hurt Kazumi because here moves have great properties not so much with Shaheen, really cool character that they just abandoned. Probably because he isn't going to be in the next game and with the nerfs the player rate will drop and eventually people will forget him when Tekken 8 is announced.
Tekken 7 - Shaheen Season 2 Changes
My reaction: "Look how they massacred my boy"
"Shaheen is dead"
-lowhigh
Then you see AK on grand finals with shaheen
I immediately thought of this tweet when I saw AK clobber JimmyJ with Shaheen at EVO Japan. He put on one hell of a performance all the way till grand finals.
Now😂
I get the Hopkick nerfs but nerfing shaheen's 4,1 was unnecessary ....and 4 into db2 doesn't work anymore which makes his magic 4 alone pretty much useless
You didnt mention that he got better punishment now, they added 2,3 as 10 frame punish instead of 2,1 and also his f2,3 gives you a knockdown and wallsplat.
F3 into d3~df is now more consistent, too
That juicy sonic 3 sandopolis music
sonic music is the shizzle. 🎵😏
He is my fav newcomer in tekken 7. So sad they killed him. Hope he survives for the next tekken games.
He's nowhere near dead, no character is. Keep your head up and focus on getting better! The character is still solid.
@@anjiruhyure2080 he is not my main but just my fav newcomer.
@@anjiruhyure2080 anyway yes he is pretty solid but some nerfs are unnecessary
@Slit Wrist Misfit lei is also my main
The only newcomer that I was willing to pick up to learn fundamentals from because of the small movelist......WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HIM! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY BOI! MY SWEET, SWEET BOI!
Ahh the first character that made me get out of Green ranks, this arab has a special place in my heart.
Man shaheen needs a major upgrade after this. how do you nerf a character who's already nerfed(after FR update) and he got the most limited movelist in the entire series? How?
Because ChiriChiri is overpowered boiii
Shaheen was absolutely broken in 7.0. He was my highest ranked character and that was 90% just 4,1 spam, which for a time jailed and was -1 on block. He also got a free, guaranteed unscaled ws+3 at the end of combos.
Shaheen is yeah a bit weaker than in Season 1, but he's still really solid, and imo a more fun and diverse character to play.
@@chakdeuk who?
@@ThatBlastedSalami Totally forgot about that vanilla shaheen's weird awful combo ender ws+3 the nerf on that was necessary.
Thank you for continuing to make Tekken more and more exciting to learn about
Sonic 3 Sandopolis zone music ☺️
My favorite UA-cam tekken page. Love your videos and I just want to see more and more.
I forgot about Shaheen...
I loves your work Blasted Salami. So much useful info
Nice video, Julia essentials please!!!
This means we’re FINALLY getting to Steve
Muzikyle I can’t wait!
Who's your next character breakdown going to be on? Great vid btw
It's in alphabetical order so Steve is up next 🙂
@Demo ah I didn't read that right. Whoops
Feng Breakdown after the Changes vids, then either Julia or DJ Essentials
Another big nerf in Shaheen's neutral game was making his db+2 unsafe at -10. In previous seasons you could fish with it and it was pretty easy to hit confirm but now you can't even do the first part as a poke. It feels unnecessary because plenty characters have a safe mid into a hit confirmable high (Lee's f+2,1 and King's df+2,1 for example).
Kings isn't HC, they can duck or block the high if you delay even on hit (must be counter hit) But yh that is a silly change to shaheen
Wow, you're really pumping these out now! Keep up the great work! ... Where's Marduk and AK essentials?
Can't wait for my man Steve, I hope you guys will cover all changes of him in Season 2. Great video by the way.
For anyone claiming that Shaheen is dead, etc;. just a reminder that AK got second at EVO Japan this year using Shaheen almost entirely throughout. Nerfed? Yeah. Massacred? Hell no.
So panda is actually high tier because rangchu took evo 2018? your logic doesnt make sense.
I've been playing T7 online for about a year now, and I think I can count on one hand the number of Shaheens I've fought. He was one of the characters I wanted to try and learn just to piss off certain people, if you catch my drift, but he just didn't click with me. Still like him, though.
Maybe I’m confused but bryans ws1 isn’t i14 like you’re suggesting in the video. It’s still i15, meaning Bryan cannot launch it.
Good catch there. The editor must have made an error and mixed jet upper with ws+1.
I was worried I wouldn't get to remorselessly bully Bryan with Feng's QCF1, for a minute there. Thanks!
@theblastedsalami we need a Leo complete breakdown bro. You’re doing the best, love you 👍
Great vid as usual. 2 things I missed though: extra emphasis on his new i10 punisher in 23 instead of just 12 or 21. And the fact that CH f3 now is way easier to juggle from with d3~SNK2.
Also his i12 punisher knocks down and wallsplats now
Powerslave music at the end) Awesome)))
Oh and also f3 on CH now gives an easy juggle with d3df2 instead of the ridiculously hard ss d3df-ws3
I’ve been waiting for this!
This reinforces my hesitation to continue playing Shaheen in this season.
i feel you :(
Pls give Shaheen something to deal with pushback moves. His movelist is just too small.
F2,3 is a reasonably good long range punisher. Works with mid get up kicks, improperly spaced death fists, etc.
@@AltoidsYob it whiffs 95 percent of the time against a blocked Death fist
Shaheen is one of the few characters that can punish Heihachi ff2 consistently I don't know what you mean ?
Yay! Steve Fox comes up next! Absolutely can’t wait to improve more and get my opponent rekt
meaning of the name Shaheen in Saudi Arabia is Falcon
Shaheen is so simple, yet extremely fun to play. If you really want to learn how to play Tekken using fundamentals, movement and basic mixups without the need for great execution then he is the perfect choice.
Finally one of my other mains
Miguel essentials💖
MY MAIN!!!!!
hmmm damn i might mess around w/ shaheen ran into some online lately to funny more noctis's let's go season 3 to season 4 with 2 more characters to damn serious meta mix up's to new feature's to hope us on PC get the juke box but damn who the last two coming will we get another 2D character!? a OG!? or another crossover to 100% yet another original character!? damn harada loves us after all lol
I was really hoping for a GON essentials for aprils fools xD Or even mokujin :P
Is that by any chance possible that you would do Leo guide?
I had no idea tekken was doing this, wtf? Anyways, kochido Jackson suggested I check this channel out, so here I am
Goodbye Shaheen , Hello Lars my old friend
Could you please do a video on devil jin. Keep up the good work👍
How do you play this stage at night?
@Hidan :(
It looks much better than “day version”
It would be nice if they recolored or redesigned some of these stages. Overwrite the current stages. After every other update or something even
Would really be nice...because most of the maps in this game look terrible
Seriously some of the worst stages I've ever seen. Playstation 2 fighting maps look better which is just shameful
please hworang breakdown complete??
Awesome!!
I prefer f23 to leave opp standing but I guess you can never complain about a knockdown
Hey just started playing the game recently, love your channel man. Any videos of yours you recommend that go over basic fundamentals like footsies, spacing and neutral? I mostly have trouble with reacting to lows and knowing when to block or try to parry. Also when I'm dragunov and do b2~1, 3, 1+2 where you feint sweep into grab, i always get punched when the guy reacts (i was facing a really good smurf with a 100% winrate) when he crouches. So the move seems completely useless and garbage cause the opponent can crouch and block it and launch punish or just punch you out of the grab. It sucks.
SunbroSolaireTV I’m also a drag main, what he did was fuzzy guard the move making that specific move sort of useless against experienced players. However if u do the b,2,1 then do it again immediately after, but do not sweep, it trips them up a little. Usually once u condition them to think u won’t do the sweep when ever u begin to get some pressure on them the b,2,1,3 sweep will hit, u may only get to do it once per match so make the most of it.
@@Eassle Great advice, thanks man.
B 2,1 faint into the grab doesn't work the better you get. A better move is b 4,2 ~1+2. That string is normally supposed end on a plus frame high, so many people duck it. The 1+2 faints into the ultimate tackle. Not many expect the take down. While of course none of the grabs are guaranteed, it's still viable against experienced players to throw from time to time.
@@aeonlinux This option is also really good after WR+2 seeing as it catches guys off guard. Or after CD+1 seeing as its also high on + frames.
Shaheen = Ksa 🔥😎
I think you forgot something... but very nice.
Can you please do Paul for breakdown :D
Till his SNK stance is pretty much useless only a selected few will play him.
Players need gimmicks, he only relies on fundamentals. (PS: Shaheen main)
Lol you reaching, he isn't that interesting of a character from a lore AND Gameplay perspective
Claudio JUST like Shaheen suffers from the same problems, not that interesting of a character
ALL CHARACTERS require fundamentals n repeating a move because it's a "gimmick" is a sure fire to get bodied
Only ppl who need gimmicks are players who aren't that good in tekken
@@arcadescrub5138 Claudio has way more character than Shaheen, and starbirst is a great UNIQUE tool.
The majority of the playerbase are not pros, they use gimmicks they dont play the perfect way.
There is a reason, why the most popular characters have unique moves, that relies on the opponent to know rhe matchup.
Shaheens fundamental tools are great, his punishment is easy top 5, only need a couple of moves to separare his char from the rest.(not just a law lee hibrid)
@@diam0ndben but starburst doesn't give itself out for free, yes it's a unique tool but all it does is buff certain moves(season 2 onward)
Claudio WITHOUT starburst is no dif from Shaheen, bad lows, decent highs and good mids
All characters in fighters need moves to make them "scary" aka require match up knowledge otherwise you just get the "negan treatment"(learning the match up isn't necessary because alot of his moves are visually unsafe)
Claudio and Shaheen are basic characters with tools to make one learn the match up but they're not that scary(Shaheen stealth stance,and Claudio's starburst) both are conceptually great but aren't standout in practice
@@arcadescrub5138 Shaheens' lows are at worst mid tier, d4, d3 slide is more than enough. But I get your point
Let's be real here though. Only a small molecular section of the community actually give a damn about shaheen
Most other people just don't care. I myself sometimes even forget the man is on the roster lol
Kinda unrelated, but I always wondered something.
Why do most Bryan players use that double knee move at the wall instead of Machine Gun punch ? If I’m not mistaken doesn’t it do more damage ?
it doesnt work on all characters, if you are talking about df21 df12
Only works on jack/gigas/Marduk
Oh..that sucks..with all the hitbox & consistency changed why wouldn’t they fix that ?
You mean the gatling ub1+2~1~2... string? Shit is hard, yo.
@@tippingguy8514 dude, it's df2,1 db1+2. And no, the delayed knee is better
Yeeeessssss Steve next baby
ONE OF THE BETTER WALL MOVE BOUNCES IN THE GAME
Again lmao
Shaheen mains unite
Bombay aka 5,6
Why is it called Magic 4 ?
It's a 4 that's a combo starter when counterhit.
Whos here after season 3
xD
Hi guys,
can someone tell me what is the meaning of "nerfs" ?
in this case it means that certain moves are less effective than they used to be.
like a move that was + 3 on block, but now only + 1 on block
Specifically "weakening"
And to buff means to strengthen.
Yeah he is definitely worse then season 1. He should get buffed in some other way tho. I don't get why his f 3+4 move doesn't hit grounded like Lee. His stance 2 has been buffed with it being save but you don't get anything really good out of it, like there is no good follow up from a counterhit. the limited movelist doesn't hurt Kazumi because here moves have great properties not so much with Shaheen, really cool character that they just abandoned. Probably because he isn't going to be in the next game and with the nerfs the player rate will drop and eventually people will forget him when Tekken 8 is announced.
pls do a video about julia
ps : you are awsome
Nerfing 4,1 is plain stupid. There are cheap characters like DVJ still running amok in tourneys and ranked. Why nerf my boy?
Sad reactions only
Shaheen is still in tekken? Lol who plays him
1st
They just had to nerf my main didnt they? And im already 1800 losses down. Well i guess its time to stick it out as long as i can.