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  • @oldjake4233
    @oldjake4233 10 місяців тому +102

    How many of us miss dear old Terry on Radio 2?

    • @TranceTrousers
      @TranceTrousers 10 місяців тому +7

      Absolutely, I know I do. Him and Ken Bruce were the best by far on Radio 2. He used to have me in stitches sometimes listening to the Janet & John stories! I recorded three weeks worth of Wake Up To Wogan years ago and still listen to them from time to time. Terry, Pauly, Fran Godfrey, John Marsh, and Alan Dedicoat were great fun to listen to 🙂

    • @michaelbyrne5507
      @michaelbyrne5507 10 місяців тому +4

      Radio 2 is shite now!

    • @Spookieham
      @Spookieham 10 місяців тому +6

      Terry was the absolute master.

    • @julieprior3126
      @julieprior3126 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@TranceTrousersYes, those names were pure gold. I really miss the late Paul Walters. The chemistry between him and Terry was wonderful and their similar personalities were so compatible. (laid back, respectful of each other and so funny). Happy days. Also the prog was a great mood lifter on the way to a job I loathed!

    • @SunShine-dk6rk
      @SunShine-dk6rk 10 місяців тому +3

      For sure, he was brilliant, great interviews and calming voice❤❤❤.

  • @katoness
    @katoness 10 місяців тому +49

    God Bless the Irish Centre, I was homeless until the Irish Centre helped me.

    • @jwsuicides8095
      @jwsuicides8095 10 місяців тому +3

      I lived in Camden Square...

    • @LaurenceOConnor-fg4dk
      @LaurenceOConnor-fg4dk 8 місяців тому

      When was that?

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP 4 місяці тому +1

      1980: The IRISH in ENGLAND | Nationwide | Classic Celebrity Interview | BBC Archive 1021am 21.8.24 cyril smith got me a home in rochdale. and he was in no way the dubious cad they suggested. never met him, though... i only say this as i was put amongst all the Irish on freehold, rochdale. and not one problem was encountered in the way of hassles or murder or generic crime etc etc but that might be due to my having eff all to show for it ie: had nothing to steal....................... who knows. not so now. how times change.

  • @johnking5174
    @johnking5174 10 місяців тому +10

    Terry had one of the most reassuring presences on British broadcasting. When people woke up to his breakfast show on Radio 2, it was because he eased you into the day, and didn't bellow down the radio at you at 7am.

  • @billkingston4402
    @billkingston4402 10 місяців тому +36

    Greetings from Ireland, born in London to Irish parents, thank you Terry, wasn't easy with the bombings

    • @audspod1
      @audspod1 10 місяців тому

      Wasn't easy here in Northern Ireland either, having to live through it! Unless you live through it you have no idea! I worked in Belfast throughout the so called troubles, ie the IRA trying to kill anyone who disagreed with their mantra!

  • @simonclord7697
    @simonclord7697 10 місяців тому +23

    Being an English man, I love the Irish. My stepdad is Irish. Cracking sense of humour and infectious laugh.

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake 7 місяців тому

      Egg3s just him, though

    • @paulseoighemcgee5772
      @paulseoighemcgee5772 5 місяців тому +4

      Cheers mate , I am Manchester born with Gaelic Irish heritage and I love the English people too , honestly equal to the Gaels ( apart from our spontaneous song culture and propensity to be cheerful , I guess , since the etymology of the word 'ghaeil' means 'bright and cheerful ' . No , I love the English or to use our neutrally worded exonym 'lochlainn' meaning scandinavian or literally 'people of the lake ' ; 'sasanach' or saxon has a less savoury resonance . Regardless , post war , the English have ultimately been welcoming cousins . To all of you on the island of Britain ( we call álba ) , thanks .

    • @MrResearcher122
      @MrResearcher122 4 місяці тому

      @@paulseoighemcgee5772 Beautifully put, friend

  • @MichaelAyden
    @MichaelAyden 10 місяців тому +56

    As a Geordie living in the South of England I know what it’s like to stand out and to perhaps be an outsider with my Northern accent and working class background. A stigma certainly follows you. I love the Irish accent and their culture and I can somewhat relate to any Irish person who comes to live in England. Where you come from will always be your spiritual home 🏠

    • @Beamish_lover
      @Beamish_lover 10 місяців тому +10

      I'm Irish and have lived in the the North of england and south and I always said I had more in common with the English from the north

    • @danmayberry1185
      @danmayberry1185 10 місяців тому +2

      Take heart. As the Vancouver Whitecaps put together its NASL champion team in the late '70s, season ticket sales surged violently with news we were getting Carl "Shearer." Suddenly, you couldn't get up the stairs for Geordies. There were allegations of "Shearer to join" headlines that avoided his first name, but to the expats' credit, no one returned their tickets. We made do with Alan Ball, John Craven, Willie Johnston and Bruce Grobbelaar. And an absolutely stellar section of Geordie fans.

    • @eddyk2016
      @eddyk2016 10 місяців тому +1

      That doesn’t make any sense saying that living in London or England, as we are one of the most cosmopolitan places on the globe. Feeling like your an outsider is nonsense if you mean living in this country. Native English people are the real “outsiders” in 2024

    • @GrilloTheFlightless
      @GrilloTheFlightless 10 місяців тому +5

      Having a working class background shouldn’t make you feel like an outsider in the south. There are plenty of working class people all over England, including the south. It’s not a uniquely Northern thing. The south has building labourers, factory workers, agricultural labourers, welders, cleaners, road-sweepers, road workers, dock workers etc. It’s not just a load of middle-class university graduates sitting around in offices.
      That being said, having an accent will make you stand out. Personally I enjoy hearing a Geordie accent, and polls suggest it’s in the top five most trustworthy-sounding accents in the U.K., and if a southerner makes you feel unwelcome because if it then they’re the ones losing out.

    • @simongee8928
      @simongee8928 10 місяців тому +8

      The further north you go, the friendlier the folk become. 😊

  • @dawnyWestScotland
    @dawnyWestScotland 10 місяців тому +43

    Beautiful Ireland I can see from across our Scotland, not today though, it’s raining! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😆

    • @billkingston4402
      @billkingston4402 10 місяців тому +2

      Never see you then, ha ha

    • @dawnyWestScotland
      @dawnyWestScotland 10 місяців тому +1

      @@billkingston4402 I like it! 😆🌧️💦💦💧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Have a great day Bill.

    • @MrBagpipes
      @MrBagpipes 7 місяців тому

      You must be on The Mull of Kintyre. We can see Scotland from North Antrim most days. ☘️

    • @dawnyWestScotland
      @dawnyWestScotland 7 місяців тому

      @@MrBagpipes Hullooo there, not far from the Dark Skies at night “Galloway Forest” 🌲🌲🌲🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☀️

    • @MrBagpipes
      @MrBagpipes 7 місяців тому

      @@dawnyWestScotlandmany the time I passed through Galloway. Nice part of the world.

  • @hilaryepstein6013
    @hilaryepstein6013 10 місяців тому +31

    Nice to see Maeve Binchy, two years away from publishing her first best selling novel Light a Penny Candle.

    • @latteoatmeal7807
      @latteoatmeal7807 10 місяців тому

      which one was Maeve Binchy? thanks

    • @hilaryepstein6013
      @hilaryepstein6013 10 місяців тому +1

      @@latteoatmeal7807 The lady who works for the Irish Times - 04.20

  • @darrenreddy25
    @darrenreddy25 6 місяців тому +17

    Jesus .this brings back memories to me.i was 15 when i knocked on the irish centre door for help.said i was 16 do .i was on the streets in london after leaving ireland behjnd me.they offered me £5 and some sandwiches and slatterys coach and sealink back to rosslare.i politely declined and they ended up getting me a room in conway house on quex road in kilburn ,which i actually heard the lady on the phone mention it in beginning of clip .there was a priest running it at the time and cant remember his name for life if me .was around 1991.ended up running away from there aswell cause i was only 15 and you could only get benefit help from age if 16.became a barman in london working in irish pubs .went to hell and back and became an alcoholic very quickly.they spoke in the beginning of having a decent job and nice car.well after all the shite i went through i came out the other side .still here in the uk and my accent is still as the same it was when i landed on these shores all them years ago and i have the nice car and its because im 7 years sober now and living a happy peaceful life and ive got a beautiful daughter now who ive named a very special irish name and who i take back home every year to see her couisins and her granny.so thanks to the irish centre it have me the start on my journey in life over here ,and if i can ever repay them im at there servive.☘☘💚💚

  • @JohnHonda101
    @JohnHonda101 10 місяців тому +18

    God Bless Terry.

  • @TT_1221
    @TT_1221 10 місяців тому +22

    The relentless turning of time changes everything in many ways. The old Irish areas of London are now long gone, populated now by different nationalities and colors. Some 300,000 British now live in the Rep of Ireland. I think there has always been strong bonds between the everyday Irish and English people, regardless of the politics of the day.

    • @thecosmicxx
      @thecosmicxx 10 місяців тому +1

      Brexit and threatening peace on the island, did some damage to the relationship I must say. When the queen visited it was a big deal but it feels like one step forward and two steps back now

    • @harrynewiss4630
      @harrynewiss4630 10 місяців тому +1

      The tail doesn't get to wag the dog chum@@thecosmicxx

  • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
    @JohnSmith-ei2pz 10 місяців тому +7

    Kisty McColl & the Pogues, best of irish!

  • @t.p.mckenna
    @t.p.mckenna 10 місяців тому +20

    To give this report some context, it had an arisen out of an initiative to stage a major festival of Irish culture in London in 1980 under the title of 'A Sense of Ireland'. [The only nod to it by the Nationwide report was the use of that term in the introduction].
    This involved the staging of some forty events across three weeks encompassing, art, literature, music and cinema. It was an attempt to put across a broader perspective of Ireland than was being reflected in the daily reports of clashes in Northern Ireland and the IRA's deadly and bloody campaign.
    Unfortunately, the atmosphere then was really quite awful with the likes of Hyde Park & Regents Park bombings in very recent memory, so the intended audiences stayed away.
    In time, there would grow an acceptance that the actions of the bombers were not accepted, or supported, by the Irish in Britain. Just as it would be recognised that there was a systemic rule of discrimination and apartheid that was been perpetuated on Northern Ireland's Catholic minority.
    A cancer such as the IRA did not arise out of thin air.

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 10 місяців тому +3

      In any normal society Irish people who joined the republican movement otherwise would have lived normal lives... sign of the times

  • @ryanohara476
    @ryanohara476 10 місяців тому +19

    Purely here as if it wasn't for Irish diaspora in Great Britain I wouldn't be here today!

    • @jhibberd6290
      @jhibberd6290 6 місяців тому +4

      Neither would a lot of us, myself included

  • @spidyman8853
    @spidyman8853 10 місяців тому +30

    The kindest people I have come across are the Irish. That's my experience and can only speak for myself.

  • @pit_stop77
    @pit_stop77 10 місяців тому +8

    I remember this well being an immigrant from Ireland in 87. Only I never went to London or Birmingham like a lot of Irish did.

  • @annehowe8981
    @annehowe8981 6 місяців тому +2

    I loved everything about terry wogan, lovely man ,I miss him

  • @turbosnail159
    @turbosnail159 10 місяців тому +15

    The craic was good in Cricklewood

  • @darrinmcneill534
    @darrinmcneill534 10 місяців тому +17

    Terry was a great Irishman

    • @t.p.mckenna
      @t.p.mckenna 10 місяців тому +8

      He was a tremendous ambassador. Greatly proud of who we were, but self-effacing with it.

    • @Steeyuv
      @Steeyuv 5 місяців тому +2

      He was a great man, full stop.

  • @duncanself5111
    @duncanself5111 10 місяців тому +10

    My mum always speaks fondly of her Irish midwives when she had me and my brothers. I don't know if that was a common job vocation

    • @t.p.mckenna
      @t.p.mckenna 10 місяців тому +8

      Not specifically midwifery, but half of the nurses in the NHS were Irish. Two of my aunts did their training over here.

  • @highbury1972
    @highbury1972 10 місяців тому +2

    Tel’s syrup looks on point there.

  • @johnking5174
    @johnking5174 10 місяців тому +9

    The BBC treated Terry far better than RTE did in Ireland - this is why he settled in to the UK. RTE only had time for Gay Byrne as the big star of Irish broadcasting. Everyone else played stooge to him. So Terry knew he had to leave and so went to the BBC.

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 4 місяці тому

      @@johnking5174 Terry should done the Late Late show

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 4 місяці тому

      @@RobertK1993 That was never going to happen. Gay Byrne had settled into that show by the late 1960s, when Terry was a rising star. Terry felt there was room for him and left for the BBC, which was a blessing

  • @johnathanryan2117
    @johnathanryan2117 10 місяців тому +2

    Anyone interested in this subject would do well to get hold of the three part biography of the Irish born Lancashire playwright and author Billy Naughton ( Alfie, Spring and Port Wine)
    Books are, On The Pigs Back, Saintly Billy, and Neither Use nor Ornament.
    His accounts of an Irish family working and living in Bolton are a century old, but his natural ability to get at the crux of the matter from both the Irish and English point of view is still incredible to read now, having is some cases whole chapters given to this.
    Whilst appreciated that in the days the documentary here was filmed, the BBC saw anywhere out of London as practically another country anyway, some provisional Irish interviews perhaps with the odd English opinion wouldve been interesting.
    Lovely stuff.

    • @SMGAPR8
      @SMGAPR8 7 місяців тому

      Great recommendation, Thankyou

  • @PeterJohn-hl3ox
    @PeterJohn-hl3ox 2 місяці тому

    I think it is a tremendous credit to England that the Irish could come over and to do well for themselves despite raging hatred going on in the North at the time.

  • @spidyman8853
    @spidyman8853 10 місяців тому +15

    Very interesting @ Clip 2:22 notice that she called them immigrants not Expats. Well done.
    When one leaves their country to go to another country to better their lives, one is called an immigrant not an Expat. It seems some people have an issue with the word immigrant as if it is a dirty word or as if people would look down on you coz you are an immigrant, and thus they label it as.... Expat.
    What a sad life some people have.

  • @harrynewiss4630
    @harrynewiss4630 10 місяців тому +2

    Wogan pre-wig. Impressive,

  • @CrystalShip8899
    @CrystalShip8899 10 місяців тому +8

    Fittingly that year 1980 Ireland with Johnny Logan won Eurovision with the angst ridden existential anthem " What's Another Year?".

  • @thebeatnumber
    @thebeatnumber 10 місяців тому +6

    To my 21st century Nigerian mind, the idea that the Irish were once an immigrant group which faced problems integrating into English society just seems weird given the long historical ties between the two peoples. Yes, I'm aware of IRA and Sinn Fein and the troubles in Northern Ireland, but I'm quite sure that the cultural ties between the two peoples extend much further back into antiquity than this video clip seems to suggest. I once remember Tony Blair saying he had Irish ancestry and that a lot of people in England today also have Irish ancestry.

    • @PedroLeodis
      @PedroLeodis 5 місяців тому

      @clarecorcoran8585 Brilliantly put.
      Corcoran's a name that always reminds me of being back over in Mayo ☘

    • @LookToWindward
      @LookToWindward 28 днів тому

      The "long historical ties" were mostly wars, colonialism, and ethnic and religious hatred, so it makes sense that integration would have been difficult.

  • @duncanself5111
    @duncanself5111 10 місяців тому +19

    Irish centres are everywhere in England, they're called pubs!

  • @pauladaniels-bc7rj
    @pauladaniels-bc7rj 10 місяців тому +5

    A lot of Irish settled in Liverpool ❤

  • @robinclarke9978
    @robinclarke9978 4 місяці тому +1

    How many Irish or Irish descendents as a percentage of the population of Britain now live in Britain as compared to the US or Australia or anywhere else? Three quarters of a million were quoted for London alone. Then there's cities like Liverpool, Glasgow, Birmingham, even Reading after the influx in the thirties. Generally all have integrated into the UK, most perhaps are unaware of their heritage. Contrast this to the Irish Americans or Australian Irish who still consider themselves as sons of Erin. All told its my opinion that they owe us far more than history will allow the Irish to admit to themselves.

  • @liamkeane9159
    @liamkeane9159 10 місяців тому +5

    Irish went thru hell with the bombing

  • @Signaman-z9d
    @Signaman-z9d 5 місяців тому +2

    Just by being white and speaking english we could assimilate without assimilating. Over time barriers are broken down. Today in Ireland we are experiencing what GB did in the 60,70, and eighties with immigration especially illegal immigration of mostly single coloured males coming through the North. Hard border on our side. They have a Sinn Fein government in power up North surely they can help.✌️☘️

  • @tonyclifton265
    @tonyclifton265 10 місяців тому +6

    the irish were the best immigrants that britain ever had.

  • @danielktdoranie
    @danielktdoranie 10 місяців тому +10

    Terry was one of the few TV and Radio personalities in 1970s UK that didn’t sexu@lly abuse children.
    Good guy

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 10 місяців тому +2

      Terry knew of the rumours of Savile and Terry hated him. This is the reason why Terry avoided Savile if he could. I don't remember him being on Savile's show, but if he was, it was through gritted teeth.

  • @jasonayres
    @jasonayres 10 місяців тому +1

    So, why does the Irish immigrant go along to talk with the Irish born people at the Irish Centre, for help?
    (1:51)

    • @t.p.mckenna
      @t.p.mckenna 10 місяців тому +3

      Because they had often come from very rural communities and were simple people, not sophisticated. They wouldn't have the wherewithal, either, to assert themselves, so if there was something like a dispute with a landlord, they'd welcome the help of body like the Irish Centre.

    • @jasonayres
      @jasonayres 10 місяців тому +2

      @@t.p.mckenna 100% agreed 👍🏻
      And, as Father Sheridan said,
      at 1:51..
      ("We're Irish")
      Have a nice day🙂

    • @maxpowerii7368
      @maxpowerii7368 10 місяців тому +2

      @@t.p.mckennathey would also help settle them in when they first arrived finding homes, jobs, friendly Irish families for them. Irish Centers still run today and do all sorts from Irish language classes to screening GAA games.

  • @darrinmcneill534
    @darrinmcneill534 10 місяців тому +6

    Hard workers that’s what we are

  • @BuckRolly1
    @BuckRolly1 10 місяців тому +2

    And now a lot of Brits who lost their homes during the economic crash in the late 00s are in Ireland trying to get back on the property ladder cos their credit is no use in the UK

  • @imperishablestars33
    @imperishablestars33 3 місяці тому

    I am of Irish grandparents and Scottish grandparents, both came to London during the war...and here I am. I don't tend to see Ireland as a separate entity from the UK, as...the history, bad and good, is there, and we're all mixed together really, we're all brothers. Maybe it's because I grew up with my Irish-London mother (her parents died before I was born) and my Scottish grandparents culture...My grandfather's name, Walsh, has Welsh origins, which just shows how far back the migration goes. My other grandfather's surname is Yule, and he was Scottish, and that has English and European pagan historical context...so...it's sad to see us hate each other. But now, we have other problems. The head of the SNP was a Pakistani Muslim who was disgusted that Scotland is full of whites lmao. So much for hating the Irish!

  • @danmayberry1185
    @danmayberry1185 10 місяців тому +4

    Won't say the B word (I'm only Canadian), but between border discussions and focus on Ireland through a European lens .. plus word of NI's new First Minister, it seems the Island of Ireland is more respected internationally than ever before.

  • @RobertK1993
    @RobertK1993 5 місяців тому +1

    Best Presenter on British radio wasn't even British sad for British beaten by Irishman.

  • @memofromessex
    @memofromessex 10 місяців тому +3

    I am from Irish descent - grew-up on Irish stew cooked by my nan (but my ancestors left Ireland when it was still part of the UK) Unfortunately, they gave me hereditary haemochromatosis and coeliacs disease, b-stards!
    I have all the worst aspects of Ireland but not the lovely accent and the rich culture.

  • @Progressive_Canadian
    @Progressive_Canadian 10 місяців тому +7

    Would love to see some of these Irish people compare their DNA to Brits. Too bad they didn't have 23 and me back then. The populations of both Ireland and Britain are predominantly of European descent, and historically, both regions have been influenced by various waves of migration, invasions, and cultural exchanges. The terms "Irish" and "British" are broad and encompass diverse ethnic and cultural backgrounds. In terms of Celtic lineage, both the Irish and British populations have Celtic roots. The Celts were a group of Indo-European peoples who spread across Europe, including the British Isles, from around 1200 BCE onwards. The Celtic culture had a significant impact on the regions, leaving linguistic, artistic, and cultural legacies. In Ireland, the Celtic influence is particularly strong, and the Irish people are often associated with a Celtic heritage. The term "Gaelic" is also used to refer to the Celtic-speaking peoples in Ireland, Scotland, and the Isle of Man. In Britain, the Celtic influence is evident in regions such as Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, and parts of England. However, the history of Britain is complex, with various migrations and invasions shaping its population. The Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, and Normans, among others, also played roles in shaping the genetic and cultural makeup of the British Isles. It's essential to recognize the diversity within both Irish and British populations. While Celtic heritage is a significant aspect, there are other historical influences that have contributed to the rich tapestry of identities in these regions. Additionally, modern genetics and historical research have revealed a complex intermingling of different ancestral groups over the centuries.

    • @jgog59
      @jgog59 10 місяців тому +3

      For future reference, both governments do not use the term British Isles. It is recognized as being a colonial term showing possession since the 1600s. Today most people call it British and Irish Isles, the Anglo, Celtic Isles, or these islands.

    • @Progressive_Canadian
      @Progressive_Canadian 10 місяців тому +6

      @@jgog59 While I appreciate your engagement in the discussion, I'd like to point out some inaccuracies in your statement. The term "British Isles" has been historically used to refer to the islands comprising Great Britain, Ireland, and over 6,000 smaller isles. It is a geographical term and not inherently colonial or possessive. The alternative terms you mentioned, such as "British and Irish Isles" or "Anglo-Celtic Isles," are not widely recognized or adopted. The use of the term "British Isles" is standard in geography and is commonly accepted by scholars, institutions, and the general public to denote the archipelago. It's crucial to distinguish between geographical terminology and political connotations. Referring to the British Isles does not imply a colonial mindset, but rather serves as a neutral descriptor for the islands' geographic location. If you have further questions or concerns about terminology, feel free to explore credible sources or consult experts in geography and history. Let's aim for accurate and informed discussions.

    • @t.p.mckenna
      @t.p.mckenna 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Progressive_Canadian But, I'm assuming, judging by your handle, you would prefer first being referred to as Canadian, before North American? There is no such thing really as a neutral descriptor, no matter how long its use. As the man said, 'Just as political contexts inform the increasing use of deliberately bland descriptions such as ‘these islands’ (at least in official announcements and parts of the media) so too does the use of ‘Britain’ and ‘British Isles’ stem from a particular political context at a specific historical juncture - namely, the sixteenth century' [Professor Colin Kidd, Historian]. About the time, my mother's county of Laois was determined as Queen's County and Cork as King's County. All those place names that visitors to Ireland seem to find so cute such as Ballydehob and Drumshanbo are degaelicised versions applied by the British Land Commission. In Dublin, would you believe, there is an 'Irishtown'. This was an are just outside the city boundary to which particularly truculent natives were consigned. An early example of a township, I suppose.

    • @Progressive_Canadian
      @Progressive_Canadian 10 місяців тому

      @@t.p.mckenna While it's true that historical and political contexts can influence the use of certain terms, it's essential to recognize that the term "British Isles" primarily serves as a geographical descriptor for the islands of Great Britain and Ireland. It is widely employed in geography, cartography, and historical discussions without necessarily carrying a political connotation. The naming of places and regions can indeed reflect historical events and power dynamics. However, the usage of "British Isles" is not inherently a colonial term. It's crucial to distinguish between the historical context of certain names and their contemporary usage in neutral, geographical terms. If you have concerns or prefer alternative terms, it's always valuable to engage in constructive conversations about language and identity. However, it's essential to acknowledge the widespread and accepted usage of "British Isles" in geographic and historical contexts without attributing a singular political meaning to it.

    • @t.p.mckenna
      @t.p.mckenna 10 місяців тому +4

      @@Progressive_Canadian I'd already read what you said, so there's no need to repeat yourself. There's no 'essential' about it. After all, there was no seismic shift when China said, actually, it's Beijing, not Peking. Nor when Van Diemen's Land became Tasmania. The persistent insistence that we should only refer to 'the British Isles' comes from the same imperialistic chauvinism that has the Gammonites of this lately afflicted nation believing that the 'Great' in Great Britain actually denotes greatness, rather than it being a geographical descriptor.

  • @hswami74
    @hswami74 10 місяців тому +1

    The question: Where are those 750K Irish in London 43 years later?

    • @t.p.mckenna
      @t.p.mckenna 10 місяців тому +6

      They are mostly passed now. Recently, I visited Highgate/Archway/Holloway Road and listened out for the accents of old, but they're all but gone. The main part of the Irish Centre's work today is cradling the elderly Irish that could never return home, either because they no longer had homes, or simply because they had been too long out of the place. I was 9 yrs old when my father moved us to London in 1972. I could never live in Ireland now. All countries and societies move on and if you're not there to keep up with it, it's a lost race.

    • @cambs0181
      @cambs0181 10 місяців тому +4

      Lot of them are no longer with us. Though there children still walk around with cockney accents, making sure that they tell everyone they meet that their Irish, like Joe Biden does.

    • @t.p.mckenna
      @t.p.mckenna 10 місяців тому +9

      @@cambs0181 Why so bitter? Can't see an issue with being proud of one's heritage.

    • @PedroLeodis
      @PedroLeodis 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cambs0181 "Their children." "They're Irish."

    • @That_Random_Bloke
      @That_Random_Bloke 4 місяці тому +4

      Where are they now? Well Mum is currently watching Midsomer Murders.
      I don’t know about the other 749,999 of them.😉

  • @johnhehir508
    @johnhehir508 7 місяців тому +2

    Irish centre murray street ,camden square ,years later camden square was where Amy winehouse lived and died 🤔🙉🙊🙈

  • @Spookieham
    @Spookieham 10 місяців тому +5

    Irish Centre - you can see from the video that even in the UK the Catholic Church had a vice grip on it. Thank god (ironically) that those days are now gone and Ireland is no longer a poor backwater.

    • @aclark903
      @aclark903 10 місяців тому

      I guess Satan will be waiting at the end of your life to ironically welcome you to his rather warm home.

    • @bribri6365
      @bribri6365 10 місяців тому +6

      The Catholic Church is the best thing to ever happen to humanity, because it is an institution that was commissioned by our Lord Himself. The Churches teachings in Scripture and Catechism which are never highlighted these days show us how to live purposeful, joyful, prayerful, and meaningful lives just as God intended. I think people should not equate the teachings of the Church with the evil actions of some of its worst members. Most people are better off today in a worldly sense in secular Ireland but as our Lord said “what does it profit a man if he gains the world but loses his soul”. God bless

  • @JamesKennedy-t9h
    @JamesKennedy-t9h Місяць тому +2

    As an American all i see is a bunch of similar looking White people who sound ever so slightly different from one another. It's not like theyre the French 😅

  • @JJONNYREPP
    @JJONNYREPP 4 місяці тому

    1980: The IRISH in ENGLAND | Nationwide | Classic Celebrity Interview | BBC Archive 1023am 21.8.24 australians in europe.... eire in england... going home for a holiday? i met that guy. he managed to get a one quid airfare on easy jet or some such - one way, of course!!!! maybe he's still there trynna win a ticket back....?

  • @daraodonnell6514
    @daraodonnell6514 10 місяців тому +9

    I am the first viewer of this video

    • @EGC316
      @EGC316 10 місяців тому +8

      Legend

    • @bid84
      @bid84 10 місяців тому +8

      Brilliant Dara, your life is complete

    • @spidyman8853
      @spidyman8853 10 місяців тому +8

      Congrats on being the 1st. This calls for a celebration. Get the bottles out.

    • @heraldeventsandfilms5970
      @heraldeventsandfilms5970 10 місяців тому +3

      The first to comment, that is all.

    • @robinvanags912
      @robinvanags912 10 місяців тому

      Guinness?@@spidyman8853

  • @YousTubo
    @YousTubo 4 місяці тому +2

    Why do people come to the Irish Center with problems rather than going to the statutary social services?
    Because we’re Irish
    😂

  • @rondon9897
    @rondon9897 10 місяців тому +8

    Treating Irish people like some kind of biological specimens; I'm surprised the BBC published this, considering how super-sensitive they profess to be now, ethically. Several of my relatives are Irish and none of this applied to them at all.

    • @donaldlush2822
      @donaldlush2822 10 місяців тому +4

      No cliche omitted. It’s embarrassing.

    • @holeefuk413
      @holeefuk413 10 місяців тому +3

      Well it is 44 years old

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 10 місяців тому +3

      The biggest stereotypical broadcast ever....like Darby o'gill and the little people

  • @christophercooper6731
    @christophercooper6731 10 місяців тому +1

    Test

  • @bolshevikproductions
    @bolshevikproductions 10 місяців тому +14

    Ireland 🇮🇪 is now officially richer , and has better standards of living than the UK.

    • @JohnHonda101
      @JohnHonda101 10 місяців тому +19

      Give it time, from what I see It'll be as bad as London soon. No more Potato, potato, It'll be Kebab Kebab.

    • @memofromessex
      @memofromessex 10 місяців тому +1

      It's not, it's an accountancy trick by the tax-fraud companies like Amazon.

    • @GhastlyCretin
      @GhastlyCretin 10 місяців тому +8

      ​@@JohnHonda101Unfortunately, we're almost already at that point right now.

    • @daros194
      @daros194 10 місяців тому +1

      Bankrolled by the EU and subservient to Brussels.

    • @cambs0181
      @cambs0181 10 місяців тому +9

      Well looking at world ranking economies. UK is 6th and Ireland is at 28. So no, it is not officially richer.

  • @iseegoodandbad6758
    @iseegoodandbad6758 10 місяців тому +1

    The most assimilated immigrants yet they still experienced discrimination 😮!

  • @gerrynicol3951
    @gerrynicol3951 6 місяців тому

    Housewifes choice,also the nun speaking like father teds tea lady oh hav a cup of Tea go on go on now

  • @nigelipad
    @nigelipad 10 місяців тому +1

    The Bees Gees Sisters ? Disrepect since then

  • @fredo1070
    @fredo1070 10 місяців тому +19

    Those Irish clubs funded the IRA, they used to put a pound note in the hat for the Cause. I know about this because my dad's Irish and he told me how shameful it was.

    • @Derekconlon
      @Derekconlon 10 місяців тому +16

      I’m sure there was a bit, but much more went to Irish people who just needed help. And taxpayers money went towards the army killing innocent Irish people on the street in those days so there’s enough shame to go around. The IRA did not exist in a vacuum. There was a reason they existed. British actions in Ireland made the IRA inevitable. As evidence by there being numerous lulls in its existence. Only to be reborn anew after further injustice by a state that murdered its own citizens in cold blood. They were monstrous for sure, as were the times. And you can’t create a monster and complain when it stomps on a few buildings.

    • @fredo1070
      @fredo1070 10 місяців тому +8

      @@Derekconlon Remember Warrington, remember Enniskillen, oh yes, remember the glorious armed struggle. Tell me why did the Irish put bombs in Italian restaurants? What did the Italians ever do to you?

    • @t.p.mckenna
      @t.p.mckenna 10 місяців тому +17

      In the case of the Irish Centre, which is the venue featured here, that could not be a more scurrilous remark. It was vital social and welfare centre and is still going strong to this day, providing assistance to what are now the Irish retirees. The Irish in Britain were shamed, horribly, by the atrocities of the IRA, so I'd thank you not to spread such a myth. Sounds a very outdated picture to me. They were getting their money from the US.

    • @christophercooper6731
      @christophercooper6731 10 місяців тому

      Sounds very much like the words of a Trumptard right-winger who confuses the right-wing US organisation Noraid with anything going on in the UK at the time.
      The giveaway is the incorrect use of the Irish saltire, the cross of St Patrick, an all-island flag. One supposed he thinks all of Ireland should once again be part of the UK.
      The alternative is that he believes NI should be part of the Republic.

    • @fredo1070
      @fredo1070 10 місяців тому

      @@t.p.mckenna Why did you fund the abduction of a German businessmen who was beaten to death and buried on a rubbish tip? The IRA were psychopaths, stop defending them.

  • @mikki3562
    @mikki3562 10 місяців тому +3

    Terry Wogan was a despicalble, but subtle mocker of the Irish. He was a supporter of British domination of Ireland.

  • @TheDavidlloydjones
    @TheDavidlloydjones 10 місяців тому +2

    Nuthin' new here: of the UK's people, the English stand well behind the Irish, the Welsh, and the Scots in their ability to speak English.
    This shouldn't surprise anybody. They also tend to come in fourth in their command of French, German, whatever...
    Hell, it's only the fact that the Jamaicans tend to migrate into England for the most part that gives the "English" enough mathematics to make change accurately.

    • @thomsboys77
      @thomsboys77 10 місяців тому +1

      Sounds like someone has an inferiority complex 😂

    • @robertclive491
      @robertclive491 10 місяців тому +1

      Nasty sneering remark that I hope is beneath you.

  • @LaurenceOConnor-fg4dk
    @LaurenceOConnor-fg4dk 8 місяців тому

    Terry Wogan was a volunteer in Óglaigh na hÉireann.
    Terry Wogan was an explosives expert and planted bombs around the UK.

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 7 місяців тому

      You are lucky Terry died in 2016, as you would be slapped with a law suit for defamation if you dared to speak like this back then when he was alive. You disgust me.

    • @t.p.mckenna
      @t.p.mckenna Місяць тому

      ... and I suppose he fitted this in between hosting editions of Come Dancing, did he?!

  • @newtonwhatevs
    @newtonwhatevs 6 місяців тому +1

    A lot of whining and self pity...

  • @KM-yg1tb
    @KM-yg1tb 10 місяців тому +8

    He’s also described every ethnic minority who comes here now!

  • @tonynewman8586
    @tonynewman8586 10 місяців тому

    He was actualy born in wales

    • @TomFarrell-js8sl
      @TomFarrell-js8sl 6 місяців тому

      St Patrick? Then again, St George was born in Anatolia, eastern Turkey.