This stuff is really special on wheels and the inner wheel barrel as well as brake calipers. I also ( thanks to you guys) have become quite comfortable using it as part of a decontamination process of the paint. Thank you guys for all your hard work and research.
Most important of all his explanations Straight to the point Not biased Explanations that can understand by numbs to professionals That is how you address and attract the audience. Good job snd good luck...
Great tutorial! I appreciate the depth you put into it. I’m new to detailing and I’m trying to learn as many of steps involved as I go and iron fallout removal was one area I was unsure about.
Quite possibly the most informative and objective reviews in regards to detailing out there on UA-cam. One question, if I were to select 3-4 Gyeon products to do a complete detailing of my car, which products would you recommend? My current selection (in order of usage) stands at: Washe, Iron, Prep, Wet Coat
Thank you for the positive feedback! I don't know that you would need Prep for that combination you have going there, but I'd definitely put the Gyeon Silk Dryer towel in that mix, and perhaps the Gyeon View for the windshield in particular!
Tod, as a detailer myself, my hat is off to you for what you have done in detailing world and for quality work you do each and every single time. I have been following you for a while and you sir do outstanding job. Quick question though, how is this iron remover compared to CarPro iron x? That’s what I have been using for a while.
Looks good but I had a bad experience with some headlights. It stained the lights. The cover was that plastic it was a older car so currently I’m using Adams Iron remover.
Sounds like the issue was with the lights, and not necessarily the product. On older cars, you simply need to take extra precautions on all aspects of detailing because your risks of issues go up considerably on those cars.
Should I be using this for windows/glasses as a part of decontamination? Most of them speak about paint and wheel. Perhaps iron contamination does not happen on glasses? Just purchased this from your website and ready to use it prior to Can Coat. Thank you
@@Esotericdetail Thank you so much! I just applied Can Coat today! I washed my car for three times in my life and did it. As you demonstrated it was pretty simple that I did not worry about high point etc, very forgiving. I wateched your installation video many times. Thank you. Can Cost cure time is 4 hrs min and 12 hrs recommended. Now when I can do car wash? 7 days?? Or after during time it is ok? Thank you.
Don't use it every time. It's not necessary but you'll see less reaction if you use it too often. Use these things as little as possible because it's a chemical at the end of the day.
Great videos once again. Could you tell me which you would recommend on a weekly basis but also for car detailing. Sonax Full Effect or Iron? I've been happy with all gyeon products I've used and also been happy with Sonax wheel cleaner.
For wheel cleaning, literally either one will work quite well. Having said that, you might want to look into coating your wheels to make cleanup much easier. You really shouldn't need to use a strong wheel cleaner like this every week. Be sure to check out this video as well: ua-cam.com/video/jZhN0P-xXnM/v-deo.html
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing I wouldn't be using it on my wheels weekly as I've already coated mine with Gyeon Rim after freshly powder coating. This is more for customers wheels that have never been cleaned or, wheels I haven't seen in 6 months. That being said, what wheel wash would you recommend if not using wheel cleaner weekly or bi weekly?
Hi Todd, I have an unused bottle from about 5 years ago as well as a small sample bottle that is relatively new. Will the older Iron be safe to use on my Gyeon Duraflex coated car? Both the old bottle and newer sample one smell the same (terrible) so I don't think the product has gone stale after all that time. Just double checking.
I made a big mistake of putting iron on a single stage paint it was cream colour now it has purple streaks in the paint what would you suggest I do I tried polishing and they're still there
I am going to do a light machine polish and sealant/wax on a car with soft paint that is in good shape. Is it necessary/sufficient to use this product after washing, rinse and dry, and then immediately go to the light machine polish? No clay. Do I risk doing damage if I don't clay and just use IRON to decontaminate before a light machine polish is what I am really asking.
You can use it on coated vehicles and wheels, however you shouldn't have much need to use Iron if coated. We have repeatedly used it on our own coated wheels just to test durability, and our coatings at least hold up well. I can't guarantee however that it will be fine for other brands.
In the video you mentioned to soak the whole car with the product, is it safe for the plastic,rubber,and glass??Moreover the car is coated with Gyeon cancoat (which seems to be there after a year bucause is treated accordingly) is there really a need to apply iron?
@@jd-jw8hm You don't always have to believe what other people are saying :) this product is for "decontamination of iron or metal particles". Claying a car is not only removing those, it's also removing all sorts of embedded debris in the clear coat which were not removed during the wash itself. You should spray the "IRON" to remove any metal particles and brake dust, then clay the car (if needed) , then start polishing. But that's just me :D
As long as they're painted correctly, there shouldn't be a problem as it is pH neutral. We use a wheel coating on calipers. ua-cam.com/video/q0xlvRbYbgM/v-deo.html
@@Esotericdetail Thanks! I am brand new to detailing and I am very grateful for these videos. Your video explaining the difference between chemical and mechanical decontamination was super helpful. Since I don't know how to machine polish a car (yet!), I used only the chemical decontamination and followed up with a fresh coat of wax. Great results! I hope to get around to ceramic coating the wheels and calipers soon! Thanks again!
It won't remove "stuck on" contaminants, but it won't scratch / mar your paint, either! Clay / mechanical decontamination followed by waxing is a no-no unless you like to have your paint all scratched up.
still no replacement for clay, it wont remove stuff like treesap or tar. will be a good maintenance spray though. less work and less touching the paint
They each have their pros and cons. Clay won't be as effective at removing iron deposits / rust blooms, and it mars the finish. The best solution is to chemically decontaminate first, and follow it up with mechanical decontamination (ONLY if you're machine-polishing afterwards). We have a video coming out comparing the two processes, and why you would chose one over the other.
I thought using a clay bar was the best method on removing the decontaminates off the car finish or surface. So this product does a better job on removing those contaminates. Great! But, on the video you really didn't show on how to remove it. You'd showed after washing the car you spray it on. But, you didn't mentioned how long you leave it on the surface. And most importantly how to get it off and what towels to use. 🥺
Claying should ONLY be done if you're machine polishing afterwards. Your best decon includes both mechanical (clay) and chemical (Iron) processes, but that would be for when you're polishing. Otherwise, just use Iron to get as much as you can. Directions are simple...spray on, let it set for a few minutes, then rinse off.
@@Esotericdetail Great advice. Thank you. I should have included this question in my last comment. Could the Gyeon Iron, be used on glass, headlights, taillights, etc.
It's not going to be of any added benefit by using it on glass, nor would it do much on headlights or taillights as you don't have the same kinds of concerns as you do with paint.
While we have never experienced it ourselves, you could potentially see some staining in the finish that would need to be corrected via machine polishing.
If you're not machine polishing the vehicle, you should NOT use clay! So in this case, Iron is a great alternative. And if you are machine polishing, this would be used in addition to clay.
IF you are planning to machine polish the car afterwards, then you could clay / clay disc the car as well. If not, then you will only use Gyeon Iron / chemical decontamination. Never clay / clay disc (mechanical decontamination) without machine polishing.
Correct. Do your chemical decon first, then your mechanical. But remember, DO NOT do clay / mechanical decontamination without machine polishing afterwards. You WILL scratch and mar the finish in the process, regardless of the product or techniques used!
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing Ok got it. Do I have this right in correct steps ? Wash car Iron remover Wash car Clay bar Rinse/wash car with power washer. Polish. Wipe down car with polish remover/degreaser. Last is Sealant.
You don't need to do an all-out wash between chemical and mechanical decon...just a thorough rinse will suffice. Otherwise, it sounds like you're ready to go!
sonax has the same cleaner as this silly korean brand they have been around alot longer your a new distributor of this Korean brand and have to support this sir
We have been distributing Sonax for years, and have videos on their wheel cleaners as well. We have been distributors of Gyeon for several years as well. But having said that, you still haven't explained how you came to the conclusions that one is better than the other. We provide quantifiable results, and ask others to do the same if they are going to claim negatives against a particular product.
On white car that has never been clayed and is neglected is it normal for not 100% of the iron speckles to come off even after iron and clay? Do some of the leftover spots need to be compounded/polished?
@@jjjjjjjjjjjhjjjjjhjj Gloss black wheels and swirls is a fact of life...don't sweat it. Trying to polish them is a waste of time as results will only be short lived.
One of the most informative automotive surface car care channels out there. Great job guys!!
Much appreciated!
This stuff is really special on wheels and the inner wheel barrel as well as brake calipers. I also ( thanks to you guys) have become quite comfortable using it as part of a decontamination process of the paint. Thank you guys for all your hard work and research.
Thank you, and glad to hear that you like it as much as we do!
Most important of all his explanations
Straight to the point
Not biased
Explanations that can understand by numbs to professionals
That is how you address and attract the audience.
Good job snd good luck...
Great tutorial! I appreciate the depth you put into it. I’m new to detailing and I’m trying to learn as many of steps involved as I go and iron fallout removal was one area I was unsure about.
Thanks, and hope you find plenty of other useful information in our hundreds of detailing videos!
Quite possibly the most informative and objective reviews in regards to detailing out there on UA-cam. One question, if I were to select 3-4 Gyeon products to do a complete detailing of my car, which products would you recommend? My current selection (in order of usage) stands at: Washe, Iron, Prep, Wet Coat
Thank you for the positive feedback! I don't know that you would need Prep for that combination you have going there, but I'd definitely put the Gyeon Silk Dryer towel in that mix, and perhaps the Gyeon View for the windshield in particular!
Thanks for all the information that you shared in this video!!! Very detailed and what I was wondering about this product.
This is too awesome! I just got my order In the mail today but I eventually ordered for my wheels but if is safe on my paint then even better
Just found your channel ! You’re videos are fantastic and to the point. New subscriber for sure!
Thank you, and glad you found us!
Tod, as a detailer myself, my hat is off to you for what you have done in detailing world and for quality work you do each and every single time. I have been following you for a while and you sir do outstanding job. Quick question though, how is this iron remover compared to CarPro iron x? That’s what I have been using for a while.
Thank you for the kind words! They are both very similar products with the same active ingredient.
Thank you Todd! I enjoy your videos and all the great tips very much! Thank you so much🙏
My pleasure!
I've been watching you for a long time I learn a lot thank you
Is this safe with ceramic coating ?
Looks good but I had a bad experience with some headlights. It stained the lights. The cover was that plastic it was a older car so currently I’m using Adams Iron remover.
Sounds like the issue was with the lights, and not necessarily the product. On older cars, you simply need to take extra precautions on all aspects of detailing because your risks of issues go up considerably on those cars.
ESOTERIC very true thanks
Should I be using this for windows/glasses as a part of decontamination? Most of them speak about paint and wheel. Perhaps iron contamination does not happen on glasses? Just purchased this from your website and ready to use it prior to Can Coat. Thank you
Thank you for your purchase. You only need to worry about your painted surfaces with Iron, and not the glass. Enjoy!
@@Esotericdetail Thank you so much! I just applied Can Coat today! I washed my car for three times in my life and did it. As you demonstrated it was pretty simple that I did not worry about high point etc, very forgiving. I wateched your installation video many times. Thank you. Can Cost cure time is 4 hrs min and 12 hrs recommended. Now when I can do car wash? 7 days?? Or after during time it is ok? Thank you.
@@YK-UA-cam Wash within a few days would be OK.
@@Esotericdetail Thank you!!!
Hi Todd awesome video on Gyeon Iron! Do you use Gyeon Iron on the paint for maintenance washes? Or do you only use Iron on a detail wash?
Don't use it every time. It's not necessary but you'll see less reaction if you use it too often. Use these things as little as possible because it's a chemical at the end of the day.
Fallout removers are ph neutral in the bottle but when the react they turn acidic
Hi gentleman …. How many minutes is allowed to act on the paint? and how often is it advisable to use the product ?
Usually 3-4 minutes is good...just don't let it dry on the surface. You should only need to do this a few times per year.
Great videos once again. Could you tell me which you would recommend on a weekly basis but also for car detailing. Sonax Full Effect or Iron? I've been happy with all gyeon products I've used and also been happy with Sonax wheel cleaner.
For wheel cleaning, literally either one will work quite well. Having said that, you might want to look into coating your wheels to make cleanup much easier. You really shouldn't need to use a strong wheel cleaner like this every week. Be sure to check out this video as well: ua-cam.com/video/jZhN0P-xXnM/v-deo.html
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing I wouldn't be using it on my wheels weekly as I've already coated mine with Gyeon Rim after freshly powder coating. This is more for customers wheels that have never been cleaned or, wheels I haven't seen in 6 months. That being said, what wheel wash would you recommend if not using wheel cleaner weekly or bi weekly?
Hi Todd,
I have an unused bottle from about 5 years ago as well as a small sample bottle that is relatively new.
Will the older Iron be safe to use on my Gyeon Duraflex coated car? Both the old bottle and newer sample one smell the same (terrible) so I don't think the product has gone stale after all that time. Just double checking.
If gyeon MOH is on my car. How often is it safe to use? I'm told it will not harm the coating.
If you have Mohs on your car, there shouldn't be much need to even use Iron. But, a time or two per year shouldn't affect it.
Does this remove tar at all? Or should I use gyon tar
I made a big mistake of putting iron on a single stage paint it was cream colour now it has purple streaks in the paint what would you suggest I do I tried polishing and they're still there
In you classes do you use a check list for each step from the wash routine through the finial coating? If you do would you be willing to share?
In the class we are working on paint correction specifically, and not all of the wash processes.
Should the car and wheels be wet or dry?
I am going to do a light machine polish and sealant/wax on a car with soft paint that is in good shape. Is it necessary/sufficient to use this product after washing, rinse and dry, and then immediately go to the light machine polish? No clay. Do I risk doing damage if I don't clay and just use IRON to decontaminate before a light machine polish is what I am really asking.
No worries at all...
Will this product affect ceramic coated surfaces? Is it safe to use on coated wheels?
You can use it on coated vehicles and wheels, however you shouldn't have much need to use Iron if coated. We have repeatedly used it on our own coated wheels just to test durability, and our coatings at least hold up well. I can't guarantee however that it will be fine for other brands.
So this works on matte black wheels without leaving streaks or stains?
As long as you follow the instructions, yes.
Will this help remove water spots
In the video you mentioned to soak the whole car with the product, is it safe for the plastic,rubber,and glass??Moreover the car is coated with Gyeon cancoat (which seems to be there after a year bucause is treated accordingly) is there really a need to apply iron?
As long as you use it as directed, it is perfectly safe for those areas. And yes, you should still use it if the car is coated.
@@Esotericdetail iron deposits are not removed with a light polish??( which i will do in any case to correct minor defects)
@@giorgosnak9927 It's best to get rid of them before polishing.
Iron remover sprays are not really a replacement for claying. Is that right?
Correct, but you never want to use clay unless you're machine polishing afterwards.
Is Geyon Iron Safe on PPF? and coated car with ISM?
Should I avoid using this on surfaces like plastics, headlights, vinyl, etc?
You can't completely avoid it, but as long as it's not on a hot surface, allowed to dry, or in the direct sunlight, you should be fine.
Will Gyeon Iron take off the top coat (CURE, Cosmic Spritz, Wetcoat), or in other words does this also take the place of a decontamination soap?
Should of mentioned that I have Mohs+ Coating
So you're saying a chemical decon with Gyeon Iron, completely negates the need for mechanical decon..ie clay?
It'll only remove embedded iron deposits in the clear coat, don't know why he said that.
@@VladigovA That's what I was thinking...but these guys are at the top of the game..so..I remain objective..always learning..ready to be convinced..👍
@@jd-jw8hm You don't always have to believe what other people are saying :) this product is for "decontamination of iron or metal particles". Claying a car is not only removing those, it's also removing all sorts of embedded debris in the clear coat which were not removed during the wash itself. You should spray the "IRON" to remove any metal particles and brake dust, then clay the car (if needed) , then start polishing.
But that's just me :D
@UCQVrHbLL6tRc6QADn5DqcyQ Believe me...the depths of my cynicism scares even me sometimes...🤣
No, it does not. You still need both. Check out this video for more info: ua-cam.com/video/Xbr4QbKYIFM/v-deo.html
I used it on an old single stage and now I have purple streaks in the paint after rinsing and washing 3 times what do I do now.?
It's most likely an issue with how it interacted with oxidation on the car. It sounds like it needs to be polished.
How does this product affect painted calipers? Is there a good product for re-sealing the caliper paint after using this product?
As long as they're painted correctly, there shouldn't be a problem as it is pH neutral. We use a wheel coating on calipers. ua-cam.com/video/q0xlvRbYbgM/v-deo.html
@@Esotericdetail Thanks! I am brand new to detailing and I am very grateful for these videos. Your video explaining the difference between chemical and mechanical decontamination was super helpful. Since I don't know how to machine polish a car (yet!), I used only the chemical decontamination and followed up with a fresh coat of wax. Great results! I hope to get around to ceramic coating the wheels and calipers soon! Thanks again!
@@qwerpoiu7623 Glad to hear that the videos are helpful!
Do you apply after or before washing the car?
Either way is fine.
So you're saying instead of using a clay bar to prepare the paint for a coat of wax etc I can just spray this and go ahead and coat it?
It won't remove "stuck on" contaminants, but it won't scratch / mar your paint, either! Clay / mechanical decontamination followed by waxing is a no-no unless you like to have your paint all scratched up.
Oh cool, so if there is contaminants stuck on there I'll have the use the clay bar then polish it to get rid of the scratches?
still no replacement for clay, it wont remove stuff like treesap or tar. will be a good maintenance spray though. less work and less touching the paint
They each have their pros and cons. Clay won't be as effective at removing iron deposits / rust blooms, and it mars the finish. The best solution is to chemically decontaminate first, and follow it up with mechanical decontamination (ONLY if you're machine-polishing afterwards). We have a video coming out comparing the two processes, and why you would chose one over the other.
will this product strp wax?
Is it good to use gyeon iron before i use gyeon rim??
Hope it wont damage my aluminum peugeot 207 rims??
Thanks
As long as you use it as directed it should be perfect safe. And yes, I'd recommend a deep cleaning (to include Iron) before applying Rim.
@@Esotericdetail
Ok
Thanks a lot
Is this safe on ppf or ceramic coatings? Will it degrade the ceramic coating?
When used as directed, it is perfectly safe, and recommended for coatings from time to time.
So this won’t harm any plastic trim? Won’t stain?
Not that we have ever incurred by using it as directed, and we have been using it regularly for years now.
So I can use this as a alternative instead of claying the car.
It's usually a "both" scenario, however if you are not machine polishing, do NOT use clay!
do you clay first then use Gyeon Iron or is it the other way around?
We prefer to Iron first, then clay.
Does the car need to be dried prior to spraying with the product?
No it does not.
@@Esotericdetail Thanks so much!
Can you do this as opposed to claying?
Here's your answer: ua-cam.com/video/Xbr4QbKYIFM/v-deo.html
Can this be applied to a wet car? Or not recommended?
It may be a little less effective, but you could.
Will it harm any plastic trim on your car?
The only time I've seen this is if someone applied to dry plastic, or in direct sunlight.
Gyeon Iron should be used before washing or after washing?
Either way works fine. We typically use it prior to washing...
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing Great thanks a lot(:
I thought using a clay bar was the best method on removing the decontaminates off the car finish or surface. So this product does a better job on removing those contaminates. Great! But, on the video you really didn't show on how to remove it. You'd showed after washing the car you spray it on. But, you didn't mentioned how long you leave it on the surface. And most importantly how to get it off and what towels to use. 🥺
Claying should ONLY be done if you're machine polishing afterwards. Your best decon includes both mechanical (clay) and chemical (Iron) processes, but that would be for when you're polishing. Otherwise, just use Iron to get as much as you can. Directions are simple...spray on, let it set for a few minutes, then rinse off.
@@Esotericdetail Great advice. Thank you. I should have included this question in my last comment. Could the Gyeon Iron, be used on glass, headlights, taillights, etc.
It's not going to be of any added benefit by using it on glass, nor would it do much on headlights or taillights as you don't have the same kinds of concerns as you do with paint.
I hate when i wash my Ferrari then it turns into a BMW. But this product is amazing, spray a little on and your BMW turns into a Ferrari. 10/10
What if I don’t wash it off or leave it on for too long?
While we have never experienced it ourselves, you could potentially see some staining in the finish that would need to be corrected via machine polishing.
Can I use GIron (for chemical décontamination) after Gbathe+ ?
I would do it the other way around...
So is this a substitute for clay?
If you're not machine polishing the vehicle, you should NOT use clay! So in this case, Iron is a great alternative. And if you are machine polishing, this would be used in addition to clay.
@@Esotericdetail thank you!
Will a iron remover mess with a ceramic coating ?
For most coatings, no.
@@Esotericdetail thank you
Does it smell as bad as iron x
It's all the same active ingredient, so yes.
Can you use it on a ceramic coated car?
Yes you can...
Hopefully this stuff works well cause this is probably the worst smelling stuff ever
Yes it works extremely well, and yes it does not smell pleasant in the least bit!
So does this eliminate the need for clay bar completely? Or should you still clay bar after?
IF you are planning to machine polish the car afterwards, then you could clay / clay disc the car as well. If not, then you will only use Gyeon Iron / chemical decontamination. Never clay / clay disc (mechanical decontamination) without machine polishing.
Can you clay bar with this ?
You want to do 2 separate processes...chemical decontamination, then mechanical decontamination.
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing so first you do the iron remover then you clay with lube? Or the other way around?
Correct. Do your chemical decon first, then your mechanical. But remember, DO NOT do clay / mechanical decontamination without machine polishing afterwards. You WILL scratch and mar the finish in the process, regardless of the product or techniques used!
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing
Ok got it.
Do I have this right in correct steps ?
Wash car
Iron remover
Wash car
Clay bar
Rinse/wash car with power washer.
Polish.
Wipe down car with polish remover/degreaser.
Last is Sealant.
You don't need to do an all-out wash between chemical and mechanical decon...just a thorough rinse will suffice. Otherwise, it sounds like you're ready to go!
Hi Mr Todd. Please translate your voice other countries languages. Maybe Turkish.:) Thanks for your uploads.
Thanks for the feedback! We would love to have our videos done in a variety of languages...
Man, the guy really sprayed that car. I will use less cause I’m the sucker paying for it.
Using iron ,don't have to use clay no more
Iron aids the process significantly, but for some types of contamination, you simply still need to use mechanical decontamination (clay).
Good vids but the music always creeps me out, lol
German wheel cleaner is better
We like German cleaners too. Please share your testing and comparison methodology to draw that conclusion...
sonax has the same cleaner as this silly korean brand they have been around alot longer your a new distributor of this Korean brand and have to support this sir
We have been distributing Sonax for years, and have videos on their wheel cleaners as well. We have been distributors of Gyeon for several years as well. But having said that, you still haven't explained how you came to the conclusions that one is better than the other. We provide quantifiable results, and ask others to do the same if they are going to claim negatives against a particular product.
On white car that has never been clayed and is neglected is it normal for not 100% of the iron speckles to come off even after iron and clay? Do some of the leftover spots need to be compounded/polished?
It may require a few applications of iron!!
@@Esotericdetail how would you maintain a gloss black wheel? Are swirls able to be polished ?
@@jjjjjjjjjjjhjjjjjhjj Gloss black wheels and swirls is a fact of life...don't sweat it. Trying to polish them is a waste of time as results will only be short lived.
Can you add this Into a pressure foamer then use it on the wheels ??
Just spray it on the wheels...no need to put it in a pressure washer!
Can you use this on a ceramic coating??
Any effect on plastic dip?
Shouldn't be, but I would test a small section first.
Iron would remove any wax?
Probably, yes.
Would gyeon also remove water spots?
No...they have a specific water spot remover for that. www.esotericcarcare.com/gyeon-q2m-waterspot/